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No Role Modelz, Wisdom from the Coles

Mar 22, 202333 minSeason 2Ep. 12
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DON'T SAVE HER! SHE DON'T WANNA BE SAVED! The GOP is in a position where your your friend group is split. they trying to to you that you in a relationship wit a man that aint gon change. Let's let JCole and Keisha Cole minister to us. 

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Yo, I'm gonna be real with you. I ain't gonna hold you. I could almost hear that beginning sample fade in. As I'm watching all this coverage of Sepack. As I'm watching the main forerunners who are probably gonna be the big dogs for the presidential candidacy for the Republican Party, I'm watching them go all the way to this other fundraiser during spack, which is like completely unheard of over the last couple couple of years. If you was a real boss, if you had a real shot, you had

to go to spack. It was I mean, it was a JV squad. This time, it's almost like except for except for the main head honcho as we know, right, It's almost like you could hear that beginning sample of that Seminal J. Cole song that almost sounds a little bit like brush your shoulders off. But I'm talking no role models. First off, rest in peace, socle Field for real. It's almost like the GOP as a party is screaming into the void. Don't save her, she don't want to

be saved. Don't save her her politics, y'all, don't save her. She don't want to be saved. Don't save her. Listen, Uh, let me let you in on some some knowledge here to understand where I'm coming from with this. Now, let's set aside all problematic patriarchal misogyny in the thing that I'm talking about right now that I'm about to teach you. Set aside for a second, or don't set aside it. Just know that I'm aware of it, Okay, But I can't think of a better way to explain the position

that the GOP is clearly in right now. And also understand that I am speaking about very heteronormative, heterosexual dating practices. That's what I'm speaking on, you know, and it's from a male perspective. Later on, I'll probably give you another example from from a woman's perspective, which would be a Keisha Kole song. If he doesn't live you, we should delytica, Okay, But right now we in the JCole world don't save Huh,

she don't want to be saved? Now, if you know that song, the song is about him dealing with women and understanding that as he has become more famous, he can't really trust the the motivations of the women in his life, like they wouldn't really like him if he wasn't a rap star. You know, I mean, it's a tails all this time, you leave me for my money? Right? And J Cole is in a lot of that song bemoaning the fact that you know, the women from a

generation before him, he was like, my only regret. You know what I'm saying is that those women were of higher morals and higher standard. He talks about Nia long so he's he's referencing like the nineties, sort of like black film Renaissance to John Singletons of the world, like The Love Jones, The Love and Basketball, like those movies at the time we thought were less problematic. Now do they pass the Bechtel cast? You know, the Bechtel tells you can ask you can ask the lofty one about

that one. But I'm just saying, in for Jcole's age, it was like, damn, those were real women. All he's worried about or all he gets is these supermodels that are thirsty, right, is his argument. And he's also addressing this long stood stood understanding. Everybody I've explained at all, this this long sid understanding, Like if you go all the way back to Snoop Dog always talking about we don't love him. Hus you know what I'm saying, it's

the idea that strippers, you know, prostitutes. And then again, I'm just explaining hip hop here. This ain't my stance. I'm just trying to get you to understand what you mean by don't save her. Okay, it is their job to make the man they're spending money. Again, I would just explain in a position to feel like she loves him, and that it's because I mean, he's gonna spend money like she posted to make him feel like he the

most important man. And what these rappers are trying to tell the fellas is like you can't fall in love with them because they don't love you. Okay, they just making any money. But what happens is if you hear like other songs about like falling in love with strippers job in love with a strippers roll, and it's this idea that like, you're only doing this job because you don't have enough money. But I'm a big baller and

I could get you out of this lifestyle. Right In other words, I'm going to save her, Okay, I'm gonna save her from this, you know, woman of the night lifestyle. Okay, and Jay Cole is saying, she don't want to be saved. She doing what she want to do. Don't save her, she all want to be saved. I have been known to send this song to a few homies from time to time where I'm like, listen, this woman you're trying to date right now? Bro? She not? She just really

ain't that in new your homie? Now, where did that actual phrase come from? Is a generation before, from forty e forty had a song called Captain Savohoe. And you can already figure out what I'm trying to say is that now his is a little different. Captain Savaho is essentially like I Am going to be a better pimp

than your pimp. Is it's I'm sorry, but that was that's the idea of the song, right, And as that came into the vernacular, we started saying that about like, hey man, this nigga Captain Savohoe like you just essentially like you thinking you can buy her freedom, right, you could buy her loyalty? That does that make sense? Right? But she liked her lifestyle. She don't she doing what she want to do. She not gonna change, you know that to old people say you can't turn a hole

to a housewife, Like that's even worse. That's not what we're saying. But I mean, I don't know if it's worse or not. I'm just saying that's that's not what we're saying. What we're saying is she don't want to be served, which means again, it's not gonna change her ways. She's not looking for you to get her out of a situation. She liked her situation. This shit is transactional. Nigga, you're a star. I need a trip to Turks and Cacos.

Y'all like, that's that's that's the exchange. So again, don't fall in love with these homes, right, and don't be captain save a ho Now. If we're not talking about wealthy people or anything like that, I think a lot of times, in a little more not so problematic way to will say, some of us do get in relationships where we think that you can like make your partner better, that you can change your partner's ways. You see the potential.

You know, some of y'all are rescuers. And this here is the context for which I have texted the homies, bro, you can't she don't want to be saved. You know, I think in some ways I'm gonna be a little

transparent with me. I'm married, a single mom. I thought, you know, I was gonna swoop in and be the hero that both of them always wanted, the man that they never knew existed, the man they didn't know they needed until they got it, you know, and then it was like, no, nigga, no, you You were a regular ass man. That's a regular ass marriage, and y'all gonna have to work on it. And you is not you is not their savior like Kendrick say, he is not your savior. You know what I'm saying. But back to

the Captain Savor, back to back to the J call. Listen, what you're trying to say is this person is living their lifestyle. This is who they are. You're not gonna change them. They end this for the power, the money, to respect, the fame, the glitter to go the jewels. Nigga, you just I'm supposed to make you think that I love you, that we in love. But nigga, you gotta keep your head about You don't save her. She don't want to be saved. She don't want to be saved.

And what I'm trying to say, is that's what did gop yelling right now again can't stress us enough. I'm just explaining the phrase. Okay, like I said, misogyny and not with notwithstanding, just explaining the phrase here and as everybody knows, if you're in a relationship with somebody that you want to be with, that ain't no good for you. It ain't no amount of friends, ain't no amount of like you know, interventions you could give a person for them to actually listen to you do you gotta you

gotta learn for yourself. And sometimes that type of stuff be end in friendships like y'all don't ever get to kick it. The whole squad ends up breaking up because you you messing with this like you know, trash person. You you you feel me this person that everybody know man, this nick ain't no good for you. That's why I went into the jake to the kisha Ko think nay up two colds Jacole keisha Ko. I didn't catch that

to it right now. I may need to change the name of this man or a sub name for this episode, but if he doesn't love you, we should they let him good? You're not listening to her. Now you gotta find out for yourself. Unfortunately, right and then all of a sudden, now y'all can't do y'all can't do no dinners, y'all can't do no game nights because she gonna bring him. You know what I'm saying. You you you finna bring you know this nigga finna bring you know his dusty

ass girl over here. You understand what I'm saying, because like, now we can't kick it, and then it get weird, especially when y'all start yelling. Especially, Look, we all notice you're fighting with your girl, you're fighting with your partner or whatever. You vent into the homie and the homies are like, let that food go a trash. Yeah, y'all, y'all need y'a'll need this. I'm on your side. You don't need this. I come get you, Come swoop you up.

After you don't fall, you staying at the house. They it's like, can you come get me, come swoop him up? And then next week you like, guess who my baby bought me? They you're supposed to be happy about you. Now I don't like that. You know what I'm saying. You just made it weird. Listen, I'm a married man, and there is nothing worse than your partner making a new friend and then that new friend's partner is a weirdough.

That's like, yo, the friendship's over. Like if I have a new homie and the homies partner is a weirdough, it's like if my wife don't like him, it's like, well, this friendship done because we just can't be around each other. Like, listen, I know that's not that's not exactly what I'm saying, but I just thought that was a freebe It's just like, it just rules a friendship if your partner weird. Anyway, I'm telling you that's what GOP going through with this

Trump thing. I'm gonna tell you how I know right after this all right, y'all, we're back. So you know, uh, Spack over here being Captain Sava Hull. That's what the Spack door right now, because because the Spack which just finished, which is the Conservative Political Action Conference. It's usually a gathering where you know a lot of young conservatives trying to figure out who they're going back for presidency. You know, you kiss babies, you know, you shake hands, you hugged flags.

You remember that old Trump. He hugging that flag, right. But if you want to run for president, if you really serious about running for president, you gotta be at the sepack, right because that's where you start sort of building up your squad. And that's that's just the way it is. But the spack this year, strangely enough, was still a Trump show. Of course, there was somebody like a Nicki Haley who already says she running for president,

and she gave her speech. You had the homie Mike Popeo called him the homies just because I'm a nice guy. Mike Popeo gave him his speech, and even within the belly of the beasts, they were both trying to make a case that like he don't want to be saved, y'all. I'm trying to tell y'all, listen, Nick ain't no good for us. Now, I feel like it's a little different. And why I say these speeches was a little different

like this is because they were clearly normal. Obviously, when you're running for office, you're in competition, and especially when you're trying to become your party's choice, of course, you're in competition, and of course you're in competition with alomies, and of course among the homies, y'all gonna have disagreements.

But what was so unique about this Trump situation was y'all was kissing his ass like that nigga could do whatever he wanted, and y'all just did, and y'all just fell in line and defended some of the dumbest shitty did And then now all of a sudden, you supposed to be different, right, and they're giving their reasons as to why they're different. What they're saying is like, look, I too believed in the things he believed, and I too was bewitched by him. I'm like, I'm trying, I'm

trying to lay it down right. Mike Pompell was like, look, god, we had lost seven of the last eight popular votes, and what his argument is, I think we've lost sight of the fact that you know, we are right, like in the way that we see the world. Right, that's his argument. But we were just gonna be acting like who we are, we not who we say we are. We've lost sight, We've we took our eyes off the prize.

Nicki Haley like, which is a real difficult situation. She because she gonna try to she gonna have to at the same time say listen, I am proof. My election is proof that racism is over, and I don't believe in race. I was like, Okay, I don't know how you gonna do that. I don't know how you could be both is beyond me, you know what I'm saying. So anyway, that's what she trying to do right now, She's like, listen, man, like you gotta get these people.

She gotta somehow convince these wealthy, college educated white people who they like all the stuff Trump say but don't like him and don't like how he said they just needed in a better package. He led to message. They you know what I'm saying, they're trying to brownwash you feel me, right? She got to convince them that she is the safe brown Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. They will still do the things they won't done. But but but but but pat him on the back and

be like, no, you're not racist. It's cool. You know what I'm saying, Like, listen, listen, these people are all loved a black friend. They all loved a little black friend. You know what I'm saying, That could that can scrub all their racism clean. I'm just keeping a real with you. You know what I'm saying, because the idea of thinking, the idea of actually letting it come out of your mouth, that racism main of factor in America means you either

you either delusional or you deceitful. Yeah, I just I don't understand what you don't understand anyway, I don't care what political party you. And white people love it when you tell them they ain't racist. No no, no, no, no, that's not racist. They love it. She over there trying to convince them that listen, I'm trying to tell y'all that man don't want to be saved. But look, since it's his show, he gets to step up and be like, well, first of all, I'm the headliner. So that's that. So

y'all get all y'all little licks in now. But trust me, y'all all my mini me, Every last one of y'all are just a mini me. You're my little Patawans. I'll put you on. I'm still the boss, so I'm still the dog. Watch me work and work he did, boy, And also he could be like, look, and it's true they spoke to like half empty rooms, foods who wasn't there no more. The sea pack ain't what he used to be. And even if that's the case, you're not a big draw, you ain't no competition. I'm gonna serve y'all.

You know where the competition was. They was up the street around the corner in Florida at a retreat put on by this thing called the Club for Growth, right, this anti tax club who had already vowed they was going back. A non Trump person who was over there, Oh listen, listen, Vice President Pence, Senator Tim Scott, and of course really the fear big old run descentist. They was over there. Listen, listen, listen. Seepack sent out the tickets. The big dogs was like, who are gonna be there?

Oh this nigga Trump? I'm good. I'm gonna go get the bag somewhere else. Everybody getting this. Listen. What's happening in this party is this split where half of the homies is like, don't save, he don't want to be saved, and the other half is like, I stick, I stand by my man. Listen, he don't want to be saved. You know how I know he don't want to be saved is the words that came out his mouth. Let's talk about the words come out of his mouth right

after this. So listen, you know when you go back to somebody like like uh, Maya Angelo say, when somebody shows you who they are, somebody tell you who they are, believe them. And it is happening again. This man ain't learned no damn lesson from nothing. He is exactly who he said he was and who he always gonna be. Is what we saw in his speeches and his claims. My man jumped on the stage. I haven't even got to the twenty three false claims that they caught and

what he said not in total. They was like, we don't even know the total. These are twenty three week caught that he said it was false. My favorite was like, fam, I'll solved the rushing Ukraine crisis in a day. This shit easy, elect me. I'm gonna solve it. My nigga talk about I'm gonna get y'all flying cars. But they can talk about, but I didn't can talk about. Listen, you know all this land in America, a lot of it we're not allowed to develop on because they national parks.

You know what if I chunked off like a small piece of that and then bidd in corporations to come up with cool new city designs. My nigga talk about shrieking like he just he just be reckless and like and they eat it up and it's so funny. You get promising flying cars. Don't save that man. He don't want to be saved. They interviewed him later about, like, you know, a if you get indicted, are you on trial, You're gonna drop out of this election. He was like,

what are you talking about. That's gonna My numbers are skyrocket if I'm on trial. That it only helps, didn't you? But it direction beach twice because it's like and if I've been Dan, just go help. Listen, he don't want to be saved, y'all. And the other rest of the GOP is like, fam, why you keep going back to this man this he gonna kill us all y'all listen man, They like, look, he don't want to be saved. But listen, when you with your man, that's your man. What you

want me, that's your girl. Hey, look, ain't none of your homies can tell you, So let me get it to some of the falsities. This man said, uh, CNNs Daniel Dale noted that this was far from the total, adding that his speech was full of wildly inaccurate claims. Trump said that the killings are taking place at a number like nobody's seen in Manhattan. Now I know that's his low slang, right, that's what he says, like nobody,

the likes of which nobody has ever seen. But according to the New York Police Department, there were forty three reported murderers in Manhattan in the North region last year, compared to three hundred and seventy nine in nineteen ninety and three hundred and six in ninety three. In the Manhattan South region, there were thirty five murders last year, compared to one hundred and twenty four in nineteen ninety. What I'm trying to tell you is what I told

y'all before. When people talk about the crime rate, Clearly y'all don't remember the nineties, because this is it might be going up from the year before, but this is not the highest it's ever been. And I'm like, fam, I thought you was from New York. So but of course it don't matter. Listen, getting this turks at KOs thing, this this transactional, like they don't have to be true, and it never don't matter. It ain't never mattered. What's

another one, this man said. He talked about the racial justice protests and the murder of George Floyd and Minneapolis by the police officer in twenty twenty. He taught about Listen, I saved Minneapolis, and I'm not supposed to do that. I sent the National Guard. I'm not supposed to do that. It's supposed to be the governor. But these these Democrat governors, man, they don't they don't be wanting to help. I don't understand they liked the city burning. Now here's the thing.

That governor sent the National Guard in at least seven hours before Trump said so right, So that's just not true. My man said, he passed an executive order to say that if you destroy the national statue or monument, I'm gonna get you ten years in jail. Executive order, no law, no look, no questions asked, no negotiations. You get in ten years. He said. It used to be only three months if you did it, but I look, I found a law. I got it done. In reality, the executive

order didn't mandate any raisers and sentences. Instead, it directed to the Attorney General to prioritize investigations and to make federal policy to prosecute these cases to the full extent of the law, including ten years. But he ain't raised nothing. That was no damn executive order. That was the law already. My man said, how's Portland doing? They ain't even got storefronts. Nigga, have you been to Portland? You say there's no storefronts

in Portland? Trump told them foods like, Look, NATO wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for me. I told all them countries they better pay up. I'm not paying your build no more. I'm gonna kick y'all out. NATO was like, nigga, what in the hell are you talking about? I think you talking about. We suggest that you get your spending up to two percent of your GDP as far as pay of dues, but it's not a requirement because this is just what we hope it will happened. And ain't

nobody asks you to help us anyway? Tell me out. We wouldn't exist if it wasn't what is you talk? Listen and this with this man do and the sea pack is like, I'm standing by my man while the rest of the party is like, listen, he don't want to be saved. I mean, he finna go on trial. You just like, look, look, you would love with a thug. That's why I don't understand y'all in love with a thug. So I don't I mean, I don't know what you're

gonna do. And on top of all that, not only y'all in love with a thug, y'all, don't put a little punk in charge of you, in charge of your speaker. It is as a speaker, my man, my man McCarthy, tossing the tossing the tapes, tossing the screenshots to Tucker Carson. Tucker's Carson got y'all believe, and he out Listen. They just caping for the cap for the cap Master. They caping for him. I know, y'all saw Dominion had them foods break the card in the rule of the group text.

They had to share their group text over their fox. You had Tucker and in all the homies all in the group tech talking about much. They can't stand this full tromp. You're not supposed to leak the group text, but you know, Dominion sewart Fox. They like look y'all, Cap, and y'all know y'all, Cap, you know you lying, And part of me felt a little bit of relief. I ain't gonna hold you. I felt a little bit of relief that it was like, okay, y'all are what I thought.

Y'all were you desire making you really don't believe this. I don't know which is worse, like saying stuff you don't believe or actually believe it and stuff. But I don't know. Part of me felt like, okay, okay, it just you. At least at least I know that, you know. I don't know. Somehow that was a little bit of relief. But either way, they just out here capping and they know this man don't want to be saved. They know this man ain't no good. They're just selling to y'all.

You're looking at these security takes of the January sixth insurrection and you're like, yeah, there's a few violent folks, but most people were just kind of walking around in sight seeing. Let me get this straight. You're telling me it's okay somebody broke it to my house as long as they walk around nicely, as long as they don't track mud on the carpet. It's still not breaking and entering. It's the people's house, NIGGI. You you capping. Y'all had

no business in that building. But it's okay because you know, they just kind of walked around in your house. Nigga, they broke. Why y'all trying to save that man? Rest of the GOP trying to move on. They like, look, why y'all still talking about twenty twenty. This is a done deal. This nigga lost. It is what it is, y'all trying to save a hole he don't want to be saved. Duh. Oh wait, you know what, But like I said, nobody like a person trying to talk sense

into you when you got this annoying little boyfriend. No nobody ever want to talk since you because that's your man. And you know what. Listen, stand by yo man, GOP, stand by yo man. Now, the counterpoint of this would be, well, you guys are standing by Biden. No, nigga, we settling for Biden. And I'm not even saying we, I'm saying the Democrats they settled for this nigga. Like uh, I mean, think of it like Denny's. You end up at Denny's. I mean, there may have been a time in your

life when you was like seventeen, eighteen years old. You know, maybe you was twenty or twenty one. You just got into clear y'alln't got enough money and that's the only thing open. Then yeah, man, I might hit it. I might hit a grand slam, you know what I'm saying. But you you don't. That ain't the destination, my nigga. That's just where you end up. And every once in a while you made very what's why it hit the spot.

You might be a little tipsy, you might be a lot tipsy, and them a little two by two pancakes. Sometimes they hit you know what I'm saying. Like my own boy, my whole boy, TJ used to always to crack me up. He will always get the buffalo chicken sandwich. The rest of us ordering breakfast at Denny's, I ain't never met nobody ain't ordered breakfast at Denny's except for my home bie, t J. He got the buffalo chicken sandwich. So yeah, we just you just end up with Then

we just ended up with Robert that Biden. All I'm saying is this your big dogs is going to get the bags somewhere else. The big dogs hit the seapack with a who all gonna be there and went somewhere else because half of your team is putting a money against yo. Man. You got the half of the squad being like, listen, don't save him. He don't want to be saved. He gonna be who he gonna be. That man ain't learned a single lesson. He gonna hit the

same lick he hit last time. I just like, but if that's if, I mean, if that's your boy, that's your boy. I'm just saying your own people. It's like, you need to listen to the profit cold Hood politics, y'all. You know, I don't know why I ain't thought of this before, but you know you could use promo code hood forward fifteen percent off on terraform coldbrew dot com. Like I forgot I owned that company and this is my pod. Y'all, go ahead and punch your promo cold Hood.

If you're into coldbrew, get you some cold brew, gonna get you some coffee. Yeah, Like, I can't believe, I ain't think it is still right now, y'all. Y'all, this thing right here was recorded by me Propaganda and East Low Spoiled Heights, Los Angeles, California. This thing was mixed, edited, mastered, and scored by the one and only Matt Olsowski. Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible. Executive

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