Naw cuz, YOU Try That in a Small Town! The Fade in the Water

I'm talking about. I don't know why, because I waited a while before I started talking about this, and by waiting a while, I met I already had a lot of other episodes recorded. And you know, when you wait, you get more, you get more details and facts in So I'm gonna talk about the Montgomery rumble. You know what I'm saying, The fade in the water. You feel me. But before I do, I'd like to apologize for my

voice if I sound a little raspy. It's been a pretty crazy week, as you may or may not know, But I record on Mondays and on every first Sunday of the month, I host the club Real Ones out here in Long Beach, California, and this was just a really big one. So my voice is pretty hoarse because it was pretty epic. And then I had a coffee event right after that, and I actually got to perform to night. Anyway, I couldn't not record this even though

I'm all, I'm all raspy. But anyway, for recap of what I'm talking about, So on August sixth, twenty twenty three, which I want you to remember for the rest of your life, on a doc in Montgomery, Alabama. Now, to color this and to understand why this is so specific, you have to as I'm telling the story, I'm also going to add sort of historical things to it, and then I'll move into the points I'm trying to make

for the show. So Montgomery, Alabama was already played a big, humongous role in the civil rights movement, Like how many of the bus boycotts, you know what I'm saying, Almost all the most famous stories you know about doctor King took place down in Montgomery. Now remember he lived in Atlanta, of course, and you know where he got assassinated was in Memphis. But Montgomery was like headquarters. You know what

I'm saying. That's where you get the bus boycotts that you know, sort of sparked the civil rights movement in some ways. Like that's down there. So there's a lot of history. This particular doc boat dock was. I mean, slaves were delivered here. This is a place that has many old souls and many of spirits and some horrible memories on there. Now fast forward to now it's a regular dock where people take their pontoons and riverboats and you go out on the river boat, go drink, go

hang out. It's you know, it's hot as hale in Alabama. I don't know if you ever been down there. Hot as hal So getting out on the water is something that people do all the time. Now, I also want you to remember that there are schools, high schools down there in Alabama, maybe not Montgomery, because for Alabama, Montgomery, Birmingham, Biloxi, Mobile are the air quotes big cities, not big compared to where I'm from, but they're the big cities down there.

But outside of those areas, there are high schools that didn't desegregate until two thy ten. Fam Like, there's a high school down there. I wrapped about it named Robert E. Lee High School. Like it's name after the Confederates. So it's almost like slavery ended last month for them, you know what I'm saying. The civil rights movement just ended last week. Like, so there's that type of history down there. Now, this is not a slight to anyone that lives there.

I'm just saying, this is just the culture. Like you can't just take no country road down there. It's they different, you know what I'm saying. Everybody everybody different down there. It's real down there. Now that being said, you got this riverboat right this dock where you had your little pontoon boat. You know what I'm saying, it's the last few weekends before people got to go back to school.

So you outside, you know what I'm saying, People got e drinking, you know what I'm saying, chilling, grabbing yourself a little ride on the riverboat. Right, But if you got your little pontune, you know what I'm saying, you and the homies take your little pontoon out. Perfectly acceptable thing for these you know, shirtless white folks to do. Drink they little I don't know what they drink now, because they don't drink bud light, because y'all mad at

bud light, you know what I'm saying. But you drink your little drink, You drink your little beers. You go out there, you know what I'm saying, hang out, do your little white people thing on your pontoon boats. Black folks, we line up, we get on this river boat. You know what I'm saying. It takes you around. They playing music as DJs. You know what I'm saying. You're drinking,

you're smoking, you're kicking it. It's a regular thing. And when the boat, when the riverboat comes down, comes back around, some people get off and a new group of people get on. But the boat has to dock. And if you live near any body's of water, you know that the dock is a shared space. And if it's a commercial one where it's not just like a private dock, then obviously a private dock is something that's like, well,

you own this thing. You put your boat there as long as you want to be there, but there's an etiquette situation, right, There's only so much space. It's almost like being on the street with a semi truck. Look, maybe that show lane, but that semi eighteen wheeler, you gotta you gotta make way for it.

get off, people waiting to get on. He go down to the dock and all this is filmed because it's like hundreds of people there. He go out to the dock, right and while they now Here's what makes it even funnier. The riverboat is playing ludicrous move bitch, get out the win, Get out the way. They all screaming it because like they can move, like what are you doing? Like it's relaxed man, So but they not moving. So the co captain gets out, gets on the dock. He walking up

to them like, dog, just what are y'all doing? Just like slide over. Now you're watching these things ensue. And then eventually the white boy tries to throw hands on the brother, trying to tell him to move. The brother throw the hat in the air and he like, all right, well, if that's what we're doing, fades is requested, fhades will be given. So he start fading this white boy because the white boy attacked him. Then out of nowhere you see four five shirtless bubbas throwing their beers up, and

they come and running and jumping in protecting their homeboy. Right, so now they jumping this black dude who was again trying to tell them, y'all just got to move. Now. We don't know what conversations what was happening. We weren't close enough to hear exactly what they were saying to each other, but you could tell by body language that both of them was like, nigga, you need to chill right, but I'm not chilling. You supposed to move right. So

now this brother's getting the black dude's getting jumped. So he getting moped right, stomped out. They stomping his dude out. But you have to remember this is in front of a lot of black people. Then you could see as the frame gets wider, you see other black men running as fast as they can towards the dock to come down there. And as people are running to come help this brother getting jumped, you also see young sixteen year old hero swimming. He's swimming from the other side, swimming

over to the dock through the water. He's like, I'm gonna get there. I'm helping my brother. He come swim, come out the water, and then get his wop wop, saying wo wop wop. Now by this time it's a brawl. They pulling people off. Now some of the white girls getting out of they pontun They want some too, and they like, now you're not finna beat up on my man. So now girls coming in. So now the black women coming down like, ah, hommy, no, y'all asked for this.

Now you see the security in the back kind of looking like, well, I mean he did kind of ask for it. They did jump that dude. I mean, y'all, yo, you requested a fade. I mean you requested a fade. So fade was given. Now it's getting crazy, it's getting crazy. They mopping up the boat finally docks. It has to find somewhere to dock. Now everybody on the dock. Everybody on the boat saw this shit happen, so they got off, like, oh, nigga,

what's up? This shit ain't over. You can't jump the homie now, is he the homie?

When people jump in, you can't like look, look, look, you can't be hurting a hummy. Now, worred in white boys on that boat. Racist. I don't know, I know how it looked, but let me stop giving commentary first. So some brother couldn't have been younger than sixty just the old head right has a chair, a white folded chair on some wwe hits this man over the head with a folded chair. Then it gets punched drunk because

out the corner of his eye. It's a white lady who gets pushed over by the cops telling her to get out, get the hell out the way, right, because the cops is trying to stop this thing, trying to calm everything down, so they push her down. She fall over her feet, break through her crocs, which is the

funniest thing I ever seen in my life. The brother with the chair punch drunk while she down bow hits her over the head with the chair, and at that point everybody there is like, oh, that nigga going to jail, and even the cops were like, oh, okay, okay, now we gotta arrest you. So then the cops take the chair from the brother arrest them, and it was like, I mean, you can listen, man, you can't hit the lady washing down with a chair, cuz like we was with you the whole time, but I mean, damn, we

gotta arrest you. And all the Black America was like, yeah, no, you going to jail. Niggit, Like you can't hit the lady washing down with a chair, nigga. Like there's so at the end of it, three arrests, right, maybe some more, and the brother with the chair, we all raising money for his bail. But that sparked the most epic of

memes across Black Twitter where we having fun. I mean like, look, people got folded chair earrings, brothers talking about having they open carry license and they got chairs attached to their hips. There's the meme of there's this one picture of a painting, a famous painting of Harriet Tubman where she was reaching down from the sky to free you, right because you know she was the leader on underground Railroad, right, And instead of just a hand, she got a folding chair.

You know what I'm saying, the ancestors handing you folding chairs stuck. Look, start beating these crackers ass with these photo chairs. And black aquaman who swam across the thing to come get his licks in he dropped somebody. Now we are all celebrating this brawl, writing new hymns, and celebrating the violence that happened there. Now, let's unpack why we celebrating violence in the history that's going on here after this. All right, we're back. Now a lot to

unpack here. First of all, this was a very violent affair. Don't get me wrong. Are you asking me if I'm condoning violence? I mean, I guess Listen, you've never heard me say I was a pacifist. I don't choose violeviolence unless I need to. I don't condone violence unless we need to. I understand violence. I understand it completely. Also understand self defense. Listen, I'm not an anti gun dude. I believe in having them things on you. Why do I believe in that? Because we live in a violent

police state. I mean, like our country, Listen, our country's violent. Our country was founded on violence. I'd like, let's not forget that. Like our origin story is violence. We like to act like we were built on this idea, the American experiment. Nigga, it was a war. We built on violence. You violently stole the land, violently threw off your oppressors, and then violently subdued a labor force. We're built on violence.

Don't act like like we are a violent country. So when you in the ocean, you might as well swim. I don't love capitalism, but this where we are product Why because we in ocean when you might as well swim. If you a salt water if you're in a salt water ocean, you can't be a freshwater fish. You're gonna die. You gotta listen. You in ocean, you might as well swim. Now does that mean I need to make the ocean salty or no? Does that mean I need to pollute it?

to find joy, happiness, and humor. But now having said that, let's not act like because there was one thing, there was one little meme that was going around or hashtarg whatever that was going around black social media spaces essentially saying like, listen, we are not our ancestors, and what's that assuming is that we don't fight back or that our ancestors didn't fight back and they just were docile and sort of like allowed themselves to be enslaved. Now

I knew what these people meant. What they were trying to say is like, look, we're done, we're done playing, We're done, we're done taking the shit. We fight back. But it's also important to remember as Black people and just as Americans that don't think our ancestors didn't fight back,

don't think there weren't multiple slave uprisings and rebellions. History has a way, especially when you're trying to smash it into a semester and when you're learning it from the oppressor as a way of flattening a lot of the stories not at you know, we're rating it in a way that will eventually turn into what Florida trying to do, act like it really wasn't that bad and we actually gained a lot from being enslave, which is absurd, right. Let y'all tell the stories, but don't ever think that

we didn't fight. I'm gonna give you just three examples, but you need to do your Google searches and learn a little more about this. Number one, I'm gonna talk about the Stono Rebellion in seventeen thirty nine. It was the biggest and largest slavey volt ever stays in the Thirteen Colonies. It was on Sunday, September ninth and seventeen thirty nine. It was a day of free labor and about twenty slaves under the leadership of a man named Jeremy provided whites. Check this out. PBS has a dope

story on it. They provided whites with a painful lesson and the African desire for liberty. You have to remember, it's not like wars were not fought in Angola. It's not like some of these people you captured weren't already soldiers, that weren't already well trained, that don't already know how to organize. Sometimes you just gotta buy your time and

you gotta wait for the right moment. There are many stories of slaving ships being overtaken, dudes being thrown off the side, Like don't think we didn't fight back, you know what I'm saying. There was the New York Conspiracy of seventeen forty one, there was the German Coast uprising in eighteen eleven, and of course there's the famous Haitian one, the famous Haitian slave rebellion, which actually they won. They

threw off there in Slavers. It actually worked. And of course a person who I wrote my seventh grade history report on about heroes. You were supposed to write a story about heroes. It's seventh grade turned it in its seventh grade project. Now by this time I had got shipped off to this suburban school and I wrote my book report or my history hero report on that turner. I came in that little, that little suburban school. I

wrote my dumb bug on that turner. Let us say rebellion, let a massacre because he had the white people scared of me. So luck I can't thinking back now my little high top fade I'm walking in and my cross colors and my Malcolm X medallion. You feel me coming in here, straight from the city, shipped out to this school. They told me I'm supposed to write a story or write a book report on some on a historical figure. Nigga like me chose that Turner. Yes, I can't imagine

what miss Jackson. I had a white teacher named Miss Jackson. Believe it or not, Sorry, Miss Jackson, you know what I'm saying. Took on a whole different meaning. Wrote that mug on Nat Turner. So listen all that to say, don't you ever think we wasn't out here scrapping. Our ancestors did not just fold. They fought till the bitter end, and even in the end the Thirteenth Amendment, you know, ended the Civil War. We did that. We fought. Don't get don't think that the North gave us some sort

of gift. They couldn't have won if we didn't fight with them. Okay, so again, know your history. Black people fought in the Civil War. We are a big reason why it was ended. And don't forget the influence that Frederick Douglass had on Abraham Lincoln. Because Frederick Douglass is why Abraham Lincoln became an abolitionist. Do your googles. Now, that's number one. Don't ever think we wouldn't willing to

fight for our freedom. Now, number two is the point I want to make about This is, like I said before, America is just violent. This is how, no matter what you want to believe, how our problems are solved, how we get reckonings. I mean, you could just pick anything. It's violence, it's riots, it's war. What did it take for the Civil Rights Act to be passed? We took two assassinations and then riots across the country. I mean that's what that's what finally did it? How did you?

I just don't know what to tell you, Like, don't believe your own lies. There is a deep seated lust for violence inside of America. I just don't know what to tell you. And that being said, I think all of us at some point have visualized or daydreamed about beaten the breaks off a fucking racist. I think all of us have about beating the shit out of a Nazi.

You've you've you've imagined that moment. Don't lie to me. Okay. Now, on the other side, I bet you every racist person in America has daydreamed and fantasized about jumping some minority.

You like, come on that part of you. Every time you saw the cops, you know, kill an innocent man, you know, beating an innocent black person you were kind of like be kind of cool though, like don't you know, don't don't don't front and us people of color every time you saw it, every time you saw a cop, you know the Derek Show, and everytime you saw a copper or or you know the know nothing when you you know these poor people, poor black kid knocked on

the door, just was at the wrong house and got shot. Tell me you didn't daydream about beating Aney. Tell me we haven't all thought about beating the brakes out of George Immaman. Well, we've all fantasized about getting our licks in in the and and about the perfect scenario where you could be righteous in your anger, where there was a way that it wasn't ambiguous, so that when you get your licks in you could still kind of be a hero. And of course we all watched WW. Of

course you wanted to hit somebody with a chair. Of course listen. Of course you thought about slapping the shit out of a carrot. Don't like, Oh, come on, y'all, tell me you wait, Somewhere in your mind you thought about slapping the shit out of a Karen and hope for an opportunity to where it would be Okay, it's okay, you're not lying to me, all right, this hoo the politics.

We're just telling the truth, all right. Again, the brother with the chair going to jail, Like you can even see across all of our social media, we all understand

that that was too far right. And I bet you, as as an officer who might have been present, you've also participated in these fantasies to where you was like, I kind of wish like there was a moment where we could just let some asshole get their ass kicked, right, And especially if you watch that whole thing happen, if you're the officer there, you watch that whole thing happen, and you're like, that guy had to come in. Those

dudes had to come in. They asked for it. And then when the guy hit the dude with the chair, you hit the lady with chair, you were like, fuck, okay, now I got to arrest you.

I mean, in your life, since I've done hood politics, We've just watched black people and people of color be beat or killed on our screens, just with no recourse. I mean, pick a hashtag. We just keep seeing it happen, and then justice maybe being served, maybe kind of being served. Just like just nothing ever comes of it. You just get tired of seeing it. You just want one day. I mean, is it not Batman's origin story? You just want one day for somebody to get their instant karma,

for somebody to get their come uppins. I want a chance where we can finally witness ourselves stand up for ourselves. I've been trying to tell you this whole time, how collective identity works with the black community. Why it's so painful when we see our suffering on the screen because we feel like that person's one of us. So if you are actually present and you're watching a black man who you don't know, be jumped by a bunch of

white dudes. You just he's being jumped and you're like, that could be me, and you would hope that somebody would come and help. And especially if you watch the whole thing off, because the brother was just doing his job. And again you place that in Montgomery, Alabama. I mean's just there's just a place where if a man stood up for himself and nobody else was around. You have to remember, if no black people were around at that moment, that man might have gotten thrown into the ocean and

we hadn never see his body again. He might have got dragged into the woods and strung up on a tree. That is a safe assumption to believe at that moment. I don't know those white people, but I know Montgomery, Alabama. People still get lynch down there, still get hung by a tree. In the year of Our Lord twenty twenty three. Black people still go missing and still get lynched. So it is a safe assumption playing the odds that that man could have got killed that day. So, yes, we're

gonna jump the fuck in. Yes, I'm gonna hit you with a chair because I don't know what you're gonna do to us. That man's life got saved because there was black people there, because we kind of get tired of watching ourselves not have any defense. So yes, yes, I condone violence in that scenario. I don't know what else to tell you. Again, he shouldn't hit that lady with the chair. Now, why do I keep giggling about that? Well, I'm giggling about it the same way the rest of

Black America is giggling about it. It's because we deal with trauma through humor. I feel like I've told you this before. We have a way of finding the funny in everything. Now, I'm married a Latina woman. So my wife is from Southern Mexico, first gen Mexican, which you know a lot, I've said a lot. My wife is has been as street as they come. Now she's now a PhD. But she from the block, you know what I'm saying. Like she they grew up hard and in a lot of ways, they grew up harder than I did.

So she understands the street rules, she understand the hood parts of it. She certified, But her culture don't deal with trauma the way we deal with trauma. We deal with our trauma by making fun of everything. Like remember when we talked about the bartin Luther King's statue, the new sculpture that looked like a big old dick from a particular angle. Yes, that it was just funny. We make memes out of stuff because that's how we deal

with trauma. I don't know what else to tell you, how else if not, we would be furious and throwing other white people and we would just be throwing white people off of cliffs every time we see them, just with no recourse or this is how we process stuff. We just we just make jokes out of it. It's how we keep each other in line. And like I said before, what you don't want if you're a member of our community, even when we make fun of you,

these are acts of love. And my wife did not understand that when we got when I started making fun of my child, it's you like, this is this is how we deal with things, Okay, even when her and I were having marital problems, I make jokes. This is how we deal with trauma. I don't know, I don't I don't know what to say, dude. We just it's how we deal with trauma, because if not, we would be viciously violent all the time either that are deeply, deeply depressed. All the time we have we've learned to

find joy. Doesn't mean we're not taking as serious. But again, if you're in the black community, the worst part about us is being ignored, because if we ignore it, that mean you don't matter. I mean, we're done with you. You're not a part of our story. But if we drag you, it's because we're a part of our You're

a part of our story. Now, this is a very important moment, I would say, lastly, because it's on the heels of January sixth too, also where the president is finally being in some ways held accountable for the violence that these white people did patriots based on a goddamn lie. And we all sat at home and we watch these white people storm the Capitol, all of us knowing full well we'd have been shot on sight. Y'all. Just y'all. White people just get away with stuff. Now, there's been indictments,

don't get me wrong. People have gone to jail, right, Some have been held accountable. The founder of the Proud Boys, you know, and a lot of them dudes, they've been held accountable. Now it's funny. What's funny about that. To me, is the dude that's going to jail at the Proud Boys is the non white one. They even still found a way to put to find a brown person and

put a bit jail. Dis absurd, But we have just watched for so long acts of violence towards black people and people of color, or just acts of violence committed by white folks always have no consequence, which is why we throw in the tie into the Jason al Dean song. Try that in a small town. Now here's the thing. I don't know Jason Aldan's I've been made aware of his politics recently because of all this shit that's going down with his song. But I also have friends, believe

it or not, that are country singers. One of them is very close. I would name drop here, but I don't. I mean, he wouldn't give a fuck. He talks like this. So I was about us, but go out name John my own boy, Chase Rice. So I asked him what he thought, you know, and he was interested on the way I think about this. So I think I'm not gonna say what he thinks because he's got records to sell and that's my dog, and he'd be trying to

stay out all that shit, right. But anyway, it's interesting to think, like why this song struck such a chord because white people have been romanticizing the country, you know, the small town all through country music. That's what y'all do. Y'all romanticize essentially Dixie. You know that you're you're, you're, you're, you're essentially romanticizing that time, that genteel southern Dixie small town. I get it. It was a way of life, it was a time, and it's a symbol of a time

that you romanticized. It's like it's like England romanticizing Turn of the century monarchs. You know, all your little limit little women books and shit, like as if y'all had running water back then, and everybody didn't. Everybody wasn't incestuous and smelled like armpit sweat and shit all the time, like that's how the royals smelled and sound. But y'all romanticized that time. I get it, you know what I'm saying.

It's when you layer this idea of saying stuff like them country boys that were raised right are gonna teach you manners. You're clearly invoking it's I mean it's obvious what you're invoking. I don't need to I need to lay it out. You know what I'm saying, and which might have been fine if you didn't add the video.

And once you add the video, the video is of people standing up for their rights of protesting things right that were unjust, which is what you're saying is when stuff is unjust, we're gonna stand up and fight against it. I don't understand. So we're doing the same thing we're standing up against injustice. You just don't think what we're saying is. And you have this idea that the big city is this bastion of evil, right, that's that's the idea.

That's that's the romantic idea that that you're saying, which is fine. Live in your fantasy, in your worldview. It's okay, you can live in that, right, But for the rest of us, we know that small towns are a place of terror. That's where we get strong of and nobody comes and finds our bodies. Right, Your crime rates are actually way higher if we're talking per capita, right, crime rates are way higher. There's just more people in a city, right, And to be honest with you, I feel way safer

in big cities because there's recourse. Something's gonna happen. They will find my body, you know what I'm saying, right, someone might see it happen. Now. Also, the stuff you're talking about, like the Euvaldi shooting, Evalde is not a big city right now. That being said, the tying is, these black people just did everything you celebrating in the song. You get out of line. Them boys that'll raise right

might swim across the river. Dudes might come from out the deck and they gonna teach you some man, that's big homie. I'm just saying, we just did what your song said. Or you're condonting vigilanti violence, am I? I mean? Is it that what seventeen seventy six is politics? Y'all? You know, I don't know why I ain't thought of this before, but you know you could use promo code hood for fifteen percent off on terraform coolbrew dot com. Like I forgot I own that company and this is

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