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Free Barabas

Nov 10, 202132 minSeason 1Ep. 43
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Sometimes, the crowd just needs a body, needs blood. Sometimes to get out to recess, when the teacher says no one can leave until they find out who threw the eraser, they need a name. It doesn’t even matter if that person is guilty or not, we just need a body. Sometimes i wonder if a guilty verdict is just the justice system giving the people a body.  

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We could go a lot of different ways from this. We could go nobody's going to recess until somebody tells the teacher who was talking out of turn, who threw that eracer. We could go super streets to where it's like, you need to send that man out that actually shot at one of us, and then everything will be over. But I think I'm gonna take y'all to Sunday school. In front of proxious Pilot when he asked him, hey, homie, is you guilty of what they say? Jesus kept his

mouth shut. Man. It's was like, you know what it is? You see? It's basically how Jesus answered him. And then Pilot was like, listen, I foxed with the dude like I don't see anything wrong with him, but uh, apparently y'all need a body. So who you want me to set free? You want me to set free this man who's clearly innocent as hell, or this man we already know? Is it the barabbits? You feel me because y'all told me, I gotta give y'all a body. I gotta you know

what I'm saying, You need somebody. They was like, free Burrabbits. Free, Burrabbits. I was like, well, the crowd want to body, you want to free to dude. Okay, I'm pretty sure this guy is innocent though, but I guess I guess you want a guy, So here you go. And they gave him Burrabus. So I'm gonna talk about this, but in reverse, let's talk about the amad aubery case. The politics, y'all. So what I mean in reverse this story and reverses this.

In this situation, at least according to the to the New Testament, Jesus was innocent, you know, and Babs was clearly and obviously guilty. Right, And as the custom goes is, the judge is supposed to set somebody free because it's a holiday weekend. I'm paraphrasing for you. It's a holiday weekend. I was supposed to give y'all one person to set

free to show mercy on. He was trying to set them up to be like, can y'all, okay, can I you're really gonna make me crucify this naked like I'm telling you, ain't done shit, but all right, So he was like trying to look for out to be like, well, here let me, well, the crowd needs a body, So give y'all somebody, you know, and he was hoping they would take Jesus, but they didn't. They took Rabbits, the actual guilty one setting free. And the reason why he

did this is because the crowd was getting restless. The crowd needed us something right when the when the when the streets is manned in something, it's just like, man, just get anybody, you know what I'm saying, just throwing anybody right. Look it when you was an elementary school and your teacher was like, listen, nobody going to recess until I know who through then y'all sitting down? Who said that joke? Who said that this? Nobody want to

be a snitch. But the teacher needs a body. And I don't even know if the teacher even cares if that's the person there's it's the principalities. I'm demanded something, you need to give it to me. So you just thought that Ryan did it, right, Ryan, like, y'all just gonna throw me too, Okay, y'all just go okay, I did it. You know what I'm saying. Everybody go free. The teacher just needed a body. Sometimes when it's about

the police investigating crimes. There are times and you know when you involved in some of these criminal activities that like the cops just need to show the public that they did a job. So they just that Nigga did it, that they can go do his time and everybody happy. We can continue with our drugs selling and everything. Fine. We just he just needed a body. You know, I'll be honest with you, I really think that's what Derek Chlvin was. I think they just threw us a body.

Now this may seem like ancient history is mainly because of how crazy these last two years were. But Derek Chauvin was the possessor of the knee that was on the neck of George Floyd, which sparked, probably um at least in modern history, one of the biggest protests against racist practices and police brutality. But he wasn't the only

case that was happening around this time. You know what I'm saying, You've got the Brianna Taylor case, you got uh Ahmad Aubrey, which is what I'm gonna talk about a little later after this, and then that George Floyd thinks, so this uprising, like I mean, it's been it's been some it's been some decades since we've seen something like this, right, cities blaze, right people was just tired of it, you

know what I'm saying. And the hope was to say, you know, especially when the white people got involved, and people always asked me like, do I think that this moment is different? And what I said is we'll see in a couple of years. I said, I don't know. I don't know yet, you know. But they're like, but don't you think this feels different? I'm like, yeah, it feels different, but I don't know. And at first my own know was like, Okay, well we'll see if Derek

Schauden has found guilty, right, and is that justice? You know what I'm saying, like, okay, is is this what we were asking for? Is that the the one crime that, in the perfect scenario, was caught on camera right by multiple witnesses, the one that was so egregious that even President Donald J. Trump was like, oh no, that Nick Wiler,

Like that's how crazy this was? You feel me? Like even the President was like, nah, you know, ms the good people on both sides was like, I don't know, Derek, you on your own cause YO said like that's how wild that mug was. But the question is, is that is that what we mean by justice? Like is that it? Well, uh, if you follow the Homy Teslin and some of her her activism work with the Cause, the George Floyd AC

which was a police brutality thing that just got shot down. Okay, so we're still trying to figure out voter rights, any police reform a really like, fully, like, are we seeing the sweeping you know, I'm on the you know rosstand, but like, have we really seen any sweeping changes in the way we do policing? I mean, in my tripping or isn't that what the Democrats ran on that they was gonna be you know what I'm saying, We're gonna be the majority. So we're gonna get this. We're gonna

get this done. We're gonna get this justice done. I'm like, man, y'all gonna get waxed in the midtterns because y'all ain't done shit. I mean, thanks for June teenth, respectfully, but come on, cause or yeah, we need to just give it. We need to get a crowd. What they need, they need a body. I'll be honest with you. My antentas is on the is on the on the side of Yeah, they just kind of threw us a body. This was too egregious. You can't have these back to back things

because again you gotta remember this is post. Go back to Rodney King, this post, Mike Brown, this post, Oscar Grant, this post. You know, pick a name, Eric Garner. You know what I'm saying, where again, we all saw on camera, we saw that man get choked out. I remember all my couch, like I cried when that not guilty thing came. I cried as if I knew Eric Gardner, because I said, what's interesting about the black experience, Like feel like I did know him. You know what I'm saying, I know

that fear. I know that fear when you're looking in in our officer's face, or even if it's not an officer, just somebody who's deeply racist and it's so confident about their power in this situation that like it's a fearful thing because they're not careful, they just it's they believe the world is theirs and they have a track record of getting away with it, so that's why they make

those moves. So I know that fear. So I felt like I knew Ered Gardner when I when I saw this, but you got all that history that if again, if we're saying government's courts, all this, we're saying, it's just a way to understand it, it's just hood, then you understand that at some point, man, you can't have a winning streak like this. At some point we're gonna burn this whole city down if y'all keep tripping. So it's like we need to give them, mhm, give them something.

You know what I'm saying. It's like in the movies when somebody robbed somebody and then throw them a twenty dollar bill to be like, hey, man, get yourself home. It's get you just right. So you just gave me twenty dollars, and I'm supposed to be okay, right. I feel like we were thrown Derek Chauvin to calm us down. And this is just me riffing here, This is just me using my antennas. Why I say this is because

I really haven't seen real laws changed. And if you remember, way back months ago when I first joined the I Heart Network and we talked about laws that were being passed right under your nose. One of them loss was like just anti protesting loss that like if you drive through with a car through a protest of humans, that it's not really a felony if you kill someone because they shouldn't have been in the streets. Seem to me like they just threw us somebody. Let's talk about a

mad Aubrey. So the trial starting in the Amad Aubrey case, and and the part we're on is the jury selection. And what they're saying is like they really having a hard time picking some jurors. And I wonder why, you know what I'm saying, uh, because for you to be a juror, what they're trying to do is find the least informed about the situation because you're supposed to come

in unbiased. Now, this is one of those like weird points in our justice system that I guess on paper when you say, you know, you get to be convicted or judged in a in a court in front of your peers. What they're trying to say is other regular ass Americans who are here in the situation and judging like either no, nigga, you wilding or that's unfair this food? Nah. I don't think because in that situation, I probably wouldn't know.

I don't think this is a situation. So they idea of a jury is the it's twelve people who are red blooded citizens just like you, and they're supposed to be unbiased. The problem is those red blooded citizens are also humans who are also aware of a thing called the Internet, who may possibly have a television. There's nowhere in the world you can't not know what's going on. A matter of fact, here's a super side note. Uh, incredible moment in history. Right before uh Brown versus Board

of Education. Right before that case was another case that changed the constitution as we know it. It was a Latino man in San Antonio, Texas who murdered another Latino man in San Antonio, Texas. Right and up until then, our constitution only recognized two races, black and white. So in this case, uh, if there's only black and white, then what is a Latino? Well, according to the law, Latino white, according to the paperwork. So when this man went to trial, his defense was like, I'm supposed to

be tried by my peers. This abhord the white people. Did everybody here white? And the judge was like, according to the law, you're white, and everybody in the room was like, that's absurd. You know, you know, y'all don't treat me. You know, I'm not white. And they was like, well, you know the Constitution blah blah blah. So they had to fight to be like, no, the paperwork not working because you're not treating me like im white and everybody

know they're not. Then what is this discriminate? Like this is ridiculous. You know, you jumping through hoops right now. So that actually that case is why there's racial gradations. I hate to say it like that, but why there is in the Constitution, which would have been one of the biggest trials and cases in all of our history books had it not been in the shadow of Brown

versus Board of Education. But that's a side note. So it's just this weird kind of like I see why we did it, and on paper it's a great idea. It's just and it's just like when you when you study economics, when you get into economic theory. I think I may have said this before. You have a concept called the average man. That's the person with two point five kids, right, uh, and a dog and a half. You know what I'm saying, When you average out what

everybody has. It kind of kind of breaks down to this. So then you set all of your models based on this human that's not a real human because nobody got two point five kids, right, But that's how the math works out. So it's kind of absurd that, like all of our economic models are based on a human that don't exist, um, which is kind of like in a lot of ways, the basis of our juries. It's like

that an unbiased person don't exist. They live here. And one of the ways they get around that is they say, Okay, now I'm saying they you can you can fill in the subtext of day. You just move it to a different county. Now, oftentimes when it's a black person on trial or in this situation, a black victim, the defense is super well aware of our collective identity, in our collective suffering, and that we are going to be in most cases very sympathetic to the victim, mainly because number one,

they are victim. Number two it could be me, and number three we saw what the funk happened, Like, I just I don't understand what how this ain't hard It's you're gonna be hard pressed to find you a black person that can't sympathize with the moment that that brother was in. So of you to defense you like, we better go get us some white jurors who can sympathize with what the white boys was going through. And keep in mind we in Georgia because fam Brunswick, Georgia. So

I mean, like, I mean, that's the playbook. The playbook is you move it to a different county, get you an all white jury. You feel me, who is air quotes unbiased because they're not from there and they just they're just following the facts. M hm sure. Which as a side note, you gotta say yes to jerry duty. If you are of voting age and you get that jury summits, you gotta say yes, do like because guess who is saying yes, person that's gonna find these men

not guilty for killing Amad Aubrey. That's those are the people that say yes. They got faith in the system still, and the parts that they don't believe in, they're gonna tip the scales for them for themselves. You gotta say yes when the jury duty thing come in. Mine came in. I happened to be on tour. Uh shout out any Minio taking me on tour. Also, I got a new EP dropping you know, it's the music side, but I had to move it to December because I was on tour.

But the rest as sure. I'm gonna go. Now. I know that's a day off work. I know how hard that is. So I'm saying this from a position of like I could probably afford it, but in the way that you can, in as much as you can, try to say yes the jury duty. And I know when they interview you. I know when I walk into the room and they see, you know, dreadlocks to my middle back and my uh, I don't hate America, just demand

to keep a Promises T shirt. Most likely I'm not gonna get selected, but I'm gonna try my best to get on this thing to make sure that justice is served. But that's a that's a that's a side note, that's a free before you now that being said, when a jury selection process for the Ahmad Aubrey case. If you're not familiar, if you don't remember what happened, Ahmad Aubrey was outside jogging in Brunswick, Georgia, minding his own business.

Then three men, Gregory McMichael, his son Travis McMichael and their neighbor William Bryan, proceeded to follow him because they believed he committed some sort of crime, confronted him, shot him, and killed him. That crime was breaking and entering, according to them. Uh subtext, that's not what happened. What he did do was go look into a active construction site like all of us do, and got some sort of report that you know, excuse me, dangerous. So they followed

a little homie to confront him and killed him. Now, the best part of this is they defense, and y'all, can I tell you what their defense is? This is, this is this is this is how they plan to defend themselves. There was a law from eighteen sixty three that's about when if you are a citizen and you are sure that a person is committing a crime, you have the right to confront them and do a citizen's arrest.

This is a law from eighteen sixty three. Now let me ask you what was going on in eighteen sixty three in Georgia. What the hell law breaking? You think this is fault? You understand what I'm saying. So they're gonna sight that mug and then they're gonna stight the stand your ground laws. Now, let's take let's take both of these scenarios and let's walk them through. Listen my premises. They just gave us. They just gave us Derek Chauvin because they was like, y'all need to chill. So, yeah,

we're gonna give you all that. I was a little too hard these fools defenses this. You mean to tell me that these three men are such experts in Georgia constitutional law that they've done unfolded the archives to know that there was a law on the books from eight sixty three that has been repealed. Mind you, that guaranteed before they chased this dude that they had the right

to make this arrest. You're trying to tell me these three men new this so when they appealed to no, no, we have the right according to the law et sixty three, Like, first of all, the law repealed. Secondly, is you serious? I want you to right now google obscure laws, our laws that are still owned. But not right now because you listen to h but at some point look at some obscure laws. Uh, in your state or in your city. There's laws about gum, there's laws about farting in public.

There's laws about buying two chickens on Sundays that are still on the books. You mean to tell me this man is such, these men is such an expert and they and they Georgia Constitution, that that's what you're going with. That's the defense you're going with, FAMI. And then to stand your ground laws, which was the same one if y'all remember George Zimmerman went with in Florida when he murdered Trayvon Martin. You heard me, he murdered him. The

the you have the right to stand your ground. If you're being accosted or you found or being threatened, you have the right to stand your ground. Which, if I'm following the story, shouldn't that law apply to Ahmad Aubrey. Wouldn't he out jogging and y'all chased him? What the

hell ground you standing? You're taking ground. So if you're gonna go into the defense of standing your ground laws, you you're making an argument for the fact that Ahmad Arey had the right to kill y'all, not that you had the right to kill them because he was the one being chased. You were the aggressor. How the hell to stand your ground law apply to you. You're the aggressor, y'all. This is bunkers. So if you asked me, have we

really turned the corner and justice, I don't know. You tell me, I feel like somebody just threw somebody, because if the Shenanigans keep coming, then I don't know if we've if we've seen justice. I think justice has much more to do with what happens for not only this particular situation, but what happens to the rest of the country. What were we able to examine our mistakes are collective mistakes in this situation and say, hey, let's make sure

this this don't happen again. First of all, no amount of law change and it's gonna bring Ms. Aubrey's son back. We understand that nothing's gonna bring George Floyd back, you know, and and and and and of course we we believe in crime and punishment in a sense that like, yo, man, these people committed a crime, they should be punished for it. Right.

But remember, like we said about the Brianna Taylor thing is that I can't just appeal to whether it's a crime or not, because according to Kentucky law, the they didn't commit a crime. You it's not a crime if there's no law on it. The no knock law was already there, did it. That didn't change until after sister was dead. So you can't. You can't retroactively find somebody guilty for a law that didn't exist. So we can't just rely on that. We're talking about justice here. Justice

is something different. Justice is a lot more than that. Justice is a lot more comprehensive. And that's it. Like I'm challenging y'all about That's what I'm saying right here. That's why I'm like, I don't know. You asked me if we change. I think we just got thrown a body because I don't know if justice even in that, even in Derek Shauvin case, I don't think that's been served. I know that that the Minneapolis Police Department has made a bunch of changes. That's cool for Minneapolis. We talk

about Georgia. Now, I understand that we live in different states. I understand that all these states, though, are a part of America. And if these situations continue to happen, we can't get no federal law passed because again they shot down to George Florida and if you're watching real closely what's happening with the spending bill, it seems to me like all the stuff that was gonna find and and support issues of justice have been gutted from the thing.

I mean, I feel like we're just getting thrown a body now. Lastly, I want to talk about a bigger picture of how a lot of these cases go. And what you find is usually the defendant is not on trial. The victim is. Listen to me closely, The question is not did these defendants committed crime? The question oftentimes is

did the victim have it coming? In this nuance? This is where are your Twitter fights come in, because somebody's usually arguing with you whether the person deserved to die rather than was a crime committed, And we fall for it every time. You gotta know that's what's happening and be like, I'm not here to put the victim on trial. I'm here to talk about the accused. These are two different scenarios. You know how I noticed because everybody wondering

what kind of drugs? George Floyd was on. Everybody wondering what kind of drugs. Rodney King was on everybody wondering why Brianna Taylor man had a had a gun on it? Well he shouldn't have did where everybody want to know about them skittles in Traymon Martin's pocket. Well he shouldn't have his hood up, Well he should have just complied. Now people want to know about Ahmad Aubrey's mental state?

Was was in his mental health? You're you're putting the victim on trial, and what you're asking is did he deserve to die? Did he ask for it? Because if he asked for it, then that means these men ain't guilty because he asked for it. That's not a question of law, is it. That's not a question of justice. That's a question of life's worth. That's a question of do black lives matter? That's that's that's why you could be mad at that's what they're asking. Did he have

it coming? Well, he shouldn't have went into the construction. We all, he shouldn't have ran away. So you're telling me that that's really what's on trial, the victims on try out. People wonder why all these cases go these different ways, why people making these defenses about how to how to victim acting? Then, but this is why this is why black people will be like the system not set up for us. Justdge wondering what's admissible in this court?

Could you see uh Confederate flag sticker on the back of homie truck in the video. You're asking me if that is relevant to the case. You mean to tell you so so so so my Aubrey's mental health is relevant, But whether or not these men had a Confederate sticker on their truck is not. So the question is are

they both inadmissible or are they both admissible? So, because it goes to the mental state somehow or another, somebody's gonna try to argue that whether these men had a Confederate flag on their truck or not is the road is, y'all? This is that's wild man, man, man, nigga gotta be Jesus to be killed and let these people find their killers guilty, got dog man. They just you want a

perfect victim. The victim gotta meet your standards. And even if they do, if you if the system decided this ain't the day or what a cop of the president just doing a job, and you know, if you was in the situation, you can't really say so we did, okay, So we've been a jury of our peers. Yeah, that's what you're telling me, So listen all that to say this, it's crazy that again, one of the biggest racial justice movements has led to maybe three laws changed, one conviction,

a bunch of anti protest laws. But you know, defund the police is not it's not an electable phrase, right, but you know black lives matter. It's uh, it's divisive, right, I got you. We'll see though, we'll see, we'll see if these men are convicted of a crime and maybe some change happens, or they just gave us a body. Moral of the story is we we can't take our foot off our elected officials. Neck, man, I feel like

we y'all just went back to brunch man. You know, we like people color, Black people like overwhelmingly voted for this democratic waving like, man, what are we getting for a dog like ya? Can't we can't take that. We can't, we can't take the pressure. We gotta stay on their heads, man, stay on their heads, because if all they're gonna do is just every couple of years, throw us somebody. Politics, y'all, it's so little right now, little politics, y'all. So hood y'all.

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