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DO YO THANG 21

Nov 23, 202232 minSeason 1Ep. 95
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21 savage got on Clubhouse and said Nas wasn't relevant, but also said he's got a loyal fanbase and amazing music. Doesn't that make him relevant then? what is relevant? After the midterms, can we ask the same question of Trump? 

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One, do y'all thanks to an anyone, do y'all thing, do y'all thing, do your thanks to any one Tony one? Anyway, Drake the most memorable artists of all time. I don't he's very memorable and yeah, I mean is He's like, YO, made me all the way to the bank, so he's fine with it. Teamed up with the A T. L by Way of London shooter twenty one, Savage put out a collap album called Her Loss. And this year episode ain't really about the memorable Drake. This is about and recently,

which here's what's crazy. The statement that I'm about to use to help us understand what's going on with the Republicans is something that I thought. I'm surprised it made the waves it made, you know, and almost the waves it made is proof that one is probably wrong, which is what we're gonna get into a little later. So m twenty one was on Clubhouse, which I did not know it's still a thing. Apparently it is. If you don't know. Clubhouse is like an app where basically it's

like a party line where you can group chat. Then you can listen into the group chat, but it's audio, so It's like being on a big old like talking session. It's like a group text, only it's audio and uh and you can listen in the audience. Eas Fool was like talking about stuff. It's anyway. I thought it was dead, but apparently it's not. Uh, which may say something about me. But anyway, they were talking about Nas. If you don't know Nas as the Queen's rapper legend, I I can't

understate the legendness about Nas. And I'm gonna get into what I mean by that a little later. But Nasa just released an album called The King's Disease three. Now, nas Is first record was four Illmatic, So for him to still be seen albums that we're still talking about, it is jay Z level aging. You know what I'm saying, like fine wine, and he's not slowed down. He sounds incredible,

doesn't sound like an old dude. He linked up with this dude named hit Boy out here from from the I E and shout out my homeboy Jaan sport J who has been like co producing with hit Boy. Uh So, anyway, he's been releasing these like really incredible records, The King's Disease one, two, and three. Anyway, in this clubhouse talk. One was saying, man, Nas is not relevant, that he's not relevant. He's just has a loyalist fan base and keeps putting good ass music out. So Nas is not relevant.

He's just got a really loyal fan base and it's making really good music. So in ones mind, that's not a disk in his minds of statement of fact, he's given the O g as flowers, this amazing music, has an incredible fan base. I wish we all could have incredible family. Hey relevant though, yea, oh man, it's his argument, and that's like I did not I would think something like that because I thought naz You're right, I thought nazles just for the old heads. I was offended, but

I understood what the young dude met. And then that was that statement made headlines. Te Savage says Nas is not relevant, But it led me to the question. It's like, well, what the hell does relevant mean? Because out your mouth you just say he got a lot of fan base, it is making incredible music. And the statement was covered in all of the hip hop culture outlets. What did that mean? He's relevant? What the hell do you mean by relevant? Is he popular? What do you I mean?

What are you trying to say by that? And I guess after the Midtterns we could ask the same question about Donald trump Hood politics. Y'all. What's up, y'all, Welcome to this next episode of politics. We post mid terms, that red wave was more like a red ripple, you know what I'm saying. And I think what's super interesting

about this recent Midtterns is that ain't nobody happy? Nobody everybody everybody feel like they got second place, you know, which is an interesting hot take on where our politics are now, and that maybe both of these parties need to start listening to the people for which they're supposed to be representing, because neither one of y'all made neither one of y'all constituents very happy. Everybody feel like they

got a Constellation prize. But that's not what this episode is about, which is a topic that should be an episode by itself. I want to talk about Donald Trump's report card now supposedly tonight. Now this is uh November today, right now, wait, let me make sure it's the fifteen. This is in real time. Don't ad at this outmap because it's even funny. So this is the fifteenth uh Trump supposed to make some sort of announcement about his presidency. But this is before that, so I don't know that.

But since Trump got a big mouth, he always be writing checks by with his mouth that his bodycane cash, which is very black statement. He'd be making these mid terms report cards on him. He makes whatever. When sometimes we can make everything about you, it's gonna bite you in the ass later. So he made this is a report card about him. So the question is like, all right, does your co sign work? You know, does your co sign plus people talking about your talking points to do

it work? And the question remains, okay, Well, three of your candidates that we're like election denying candidates. Katie Hobbs is the the Democrat in Arizona won the governor race against Um carry Lake, who was straight up election denier, like ya niggas is cheating ladies. She lost in Arizona. You know what I'm saying. It's kind of like Liz Cheney out here flexing, you feel me, Blake Masters, Mark Fitchum. There are all these three candidates who was like all

up on that election denial. The niggas lost their race. And then there's a fourth Abraham Hamma Day I think that's how you say his name. He like it's too close to call, but he losing. I mean, I don't know by the time this came mouth. So that's like, yo, that's oh for four fan. So as you may be seeing in the sort of the papers, like you know, we might have a Trump problem like okay, yeah, really word anyway, but it forces to ask the question about

what is relevancy. Now, let's get back to Nas because that's more fun. So twenty one, you know these I don't know how plugged in y'all are one savages. I mean, he's a very popular rapper and Drake is one of the three biggest you know that the trinity of hip hop. You know that's on the top, Drake, Kendrick Cold Like you know these are the it's your your your trinity,

you know. Anyway, for the statement twenty one is making to be so egregious to a lot of us, is you have to understand who Nas is, okay, And if you don't know, let me give you a brief history. So Nas used to go by Nasty Naz, right, and when he was a nineteen years old he put out this record called ill Matic and ill Matic top to bottom. He Nas was a prodigy, like he just out of Queens. He's rapping Queen's Bridge. He put mob deep on Nas was this raspy kind of baritone. Pocket was so different

than everybody else's. He became the voice of New York of like street rap, knowledge, street knowledge, right, and ill matic. Arguably, actually, in arguably it's pretty There's a few things that you know no one denies in hip hop if you've been around long enough. Of course, generational changes may happen. But the truth is Illmatic is in the top five greatest albums in like full length records. It's in the top five of all of hip hop history. Like people throw

around God greatest of all time. I think people use it too frivolously. I I do not like how many times people say godd and stuff like that, and like you hear what you're saying, you're saying great tists of all time. Like y'all throw the word around too much. So when I say it, I mean it illmatic. And this is listen you listen, and I'm a I'm an l a boy. So for me to admit that this

Queen's rapper is ill maatic one of the greatest records. Okay, so you want to know the rest of the pantheon here Lauren Hill's miss education, the mis education Lauren Hill, it's undeniable. I don't know what to tell you. It's undeniable. People argues, tribe call quests, whether it's a low end theory or midnight marauders that's in the these are It's undeniable, right, These records are perfect. Illmatic is one of them. It's

just it's perfect. And then people would say the Carter like one of the cars, like the Carter for you know, low Wayne, It's it's a perfect record. Ill Matic is in there. Now. Nas has been dropping records throughout this whole time. Now while all this is happening, jay Z is becoming a star, right, But jay Z's early years, he wasn't this like larger than life mogul that he grew into. That jay Z was a Brooklyn rapper who

just wanted to get put on jazz and Mattaz. He wasn't the one that y'all know of now that you know the picture of cool to boss, the billionaire. He wasn't. He wasn't that. Then. Nas was the king Nos Nos Nas, Nas is the king of the show, like NAS was the king of the show. We all followed Nas. Uh,

and then he had a series of dud records. First well, then the next one was it was written that had this the if I Rule the World, the song with Lauren Hill and him if I Rule the World classic right, then he did the thing you know on one of the records, nostrodamis with with Puffy you can hate Me now that you can't stop now. But there was a

series of duds that NAS put out. Then you know when people say, yo, you got ethered, you heard that phrase like either it's this idea of like if somebody just kind of like you know, killed it, like he third, you know that it became a phrase ether is actually a NAS song because jay Z distant And ultimately the argument was like, well jay Z kind of won the war because uh, he became you know, the hole that we know, but he took a shot at NAS, right

because and one of the Killer's killer lines was like NAS's track record is like you got ten albums and only two good ones, so that's eight out of ten of your albums are trash. Like that was that was kind of the argument that they made about Nas. But NAS came back from this other with another album called Still Matic, with a song called Gotcha Self a Gun,

which we talked about in one of our episodes. But on that was a song called Ether god Son across the Belly You Proved you lost already and that song probably still as far as like this tracks on a record, It's we It's again, inarguable was the one of the greatest comebacks, the greatest haymaker in hip hop, like no this. It became a verb because the name of the song was ether. So when you ethered something, when you eather that person, you're doing what Nas did to jay Z.

That's what you understand. So he's royalty right then he took this hiatus, you know. Then they did the like year anniversary of Ill Maatic and he meets up with this this this kid named hit Boy now hit Boys. You know, he's in his twenties. He landed a few tracks with like Nip and was like but he comes out of the Inland empire, local dude, freakishly talented. He locks in with Nas and then he starts making these albums.

And usually when a person hits this stage in their career, and you start trying to wrap on some of the young dudes production, You sound like an old head trying to sound young. It rarely works. However, it's like he's aging in reverse. He's not missing a step. He sounds dope on these like young boy kind of drums. It sounds like him, you know him boy understands to not put him on something. That's wheny one would rap on to not sound like Drake, put him on something that

he would sound good on but sounds current. That's do you remember hip hop is so young in in the grand scheme of things, this is unheard of, nas is I don't know? Comeback? Can you call it that? You because he had been consistently putting out albums now granted as you, one could to argue right that those albums he had been putting out pre hit Boy, we're albums

for the heads. There was albums for the hip hop has that just love him, that understand Allmatic to understands, Thematic Nostro Dominis, which was you know, but it was written. You know what I'm saying, hip hop is Dead was one of his records. He'd been consistently putting out albums that, yeah, they weren't getting the critics accolade that these albums are. But this renaissance of his has He's actually set now a pathway forward for elder statesman in hip hop. He

has proven longevity. He has proven that your skills. Because to have a career to put out an album in ninety four and to put out an album in two thousand twenty two, that isn't just reminiscent of how you sounded. It's people aren't doing that. The roots have been consistently putting out albums. It's kind of not the same, though. What Nas has done is remarkable. Now, Savage, he thirty years old. That means he was born in So. He

was two years old when Ill Mattock came out. Now, unless he's a crate digger, which is a phrase a lot of y'all don't understand. Um, Damn, I'm getting old. Anyway, we'll go back to that later. Now he's thirty, which means he's not a young boy as far as like hip hop is concerned. But he's from the new from the new guard. I mean he's born in So. Yeah, you're two years old when when Ill Mattock came out. You know, twelve years old, Stillmatic, So like, yeah, he

don't know the story around Blueprint versus Stillmatic. You don't know them stories unless he did his homework right. What he knows is what makes a person like relevant, if you will, is trend setting, fashion is you know, social media is is you know what I'm saying. Do you walk into the city and everybody, you know, everybody stopping pause? You know what I'm saying, Like you know you got the Papa rozzis around you? You know, he just know he know rock star because that's the young folks, that's

the new generation of hip hop. Like you, you're supposed to be a rock star. So when he means relevant, he means that NAS is different. NAS come from a different generation. If a good comparison inolitics would be like and I'm not calling this nigg and Mitch McConnell, but it would be like a Mitch McConnell or or you know what better yet think about it like this the mobsters from Sicily or like a John Gotti, because John

Gotti and them, they was gaudy. You know, they was loud, they had the fancy suits and you know what I'm saying, and you you you know what I'm saying. You was you was out on the town with the big you know, expensive lexus is. But then but then O Gs then O G is from Sicily. They moved quiet, they moved low. They they understated, but they got shooters everywhere. There's a story that Snoop tells about Nas when they was in when they was in Vegas. It's such a dope story.

It was during like the two Pack years, right, So they said they was all at this party, right, and he saw Nas in two Pac saw Nas right and Snoope watching the whole thing. And Nas walks up to poc right and Pop being poc right, and Snoop says, now, listen, I'm a gangbanger, so I see what's happening. Like he's like, Nas is with nobody, but he's not with nobody, you follow me. So Nas is alone, but he ain't alone, meaning he got people all the around. So so Snoop

peeping game because he's like, I'm a gangbanger. I know how this works. So so when he run up to So, when he run up to Parc, Nas gives him love, Like what's up? Man? You know, saw love and saw this and all that right, and uh, you know, I respect you, man, I love what you're doing. And Pop Pop off and Pop Pop off like, no, man, you from the East. I dissed you. I dissed them. I this big it fuck your coast, funk everybody. So he pops off, right, but Poc rolling deep at the time.

But Pop don't know. According to Snoop, Nas is rolling deep. So he say, Snoop, tell the story like now, I say, okay, alright, COOLi and whatever. It's love. So Nas walks away and Pop feel like yeah, punk that nigger. And then but Snoop was like, no, Nas, let us slide. And so you hear what I'm trying to tell you. The ogs moved different, he said, no, Nas, let us go. That's the elder statesman, naz Is. So you asked me, who's

more of a gangster? Who won that moment? So if you Mitch McConnell or you Donald Trump, who more of a gangster? Who running things? You know, we were talking all the time about like Joe Biden and Joe Mansion, who really running things here? We some of some people move different, But you're asking me who who's relevant? Now when you drop the name nas Is my seventeen year old gonna no, I don't know I dropped the name twenty one savage my seventeen years she probably gonna know that.

So in his mind, that's what relevant means. I'm asking you what is relevant mean? And I think this is the question that the GLP is asking. What does relevant mean? Now? Am I saying nas is Trump? Hey? No? But what I'm saying is, well, let's look at the scoreboard, because what's interesting is the statement out of twenty one's mouth, which is he's got a loyal fan base, uh check.

And nas is making incredible music that is undeniable. I got this theory that if you in this in this time of being canceled, yeah, you can't be messy and mediocre. Uh you Like, if you're messy, you gotta be undeniably incredible, right, So Dave Spell, Dave Spell is undeniable. The man was on Saturday Night Live this past weekend and was dropping Jim's like, he's I don't know what to tell you. He got all you got all them trans like he'd be saying some messy ship. But let me tell you something.

The man is undeniable. I don't throw around the world go. He on the list though, Why Chris Brown lasts along because he's just so good? Ye, it's just you can't when you press play. I just I don't know what to say. That's why we put up with the ship because he's not me, because it's it's incredible. R Kelly, same thing. While we put up with it. He's just really good. Now. People crack jokes about the baby right now. Now, I'm not here to drag the baby, but I tell

you what. Or even though you know the dollars for his tickets on event right to buy one, get one free, everybody got jokes about him falling off, you know. I mean it's a great deal. Like if you're a baby fan, this is a great deal. Like don't I don't eat falling off? And maybe you do. Maybe he can't sell tickets no more this let me tell you why, because you can't be messy and mediocre. Your music has to be. Now, am I calling to the baby mediocre? I'm saying he

a little under developed as far as I'm concerned. I feel like the man to put out the same song three times now, that's me. But he probably got a loyal fan base because somebody buying them tickets. You feel me somebody buying them tickets. So my question is like, Yo, if you got a loyal fan base, you could still get a hunted two hundred, three hundred, four hundred, five hundred people in the room and they're still vibing with

your stuff. You're still dropping bars. Whatever relevant means don't matter. Do it? Nas doing fine? So let's do the report card about Trump, because Trump want to be both for your candidates, who was only election denial ship lost maybe not dropping bars no more, But that don't mean you're not really on mean you got a loyal fan base.

Let's look at the rest. So according to Reuters and US News and World Report, right, you had twelve Trump backed candidates, twelve prominent endorsements right where he was loud and proud about endorsing these people, which started with primary challenges to incumbent Republicans. Okay, four won their election in Tuesday, right out of twelve, and then two lost right, three remained uncalled, and three lost their primaries. Okay, So winners JD. Vancey won the U. S. Senate in Ohio, Okay, um

Ted Bud won Cenis seat in North Carolina. Okay, Russell Fry one South Carolina and so that who you So those are the ones we know now who lost moment Oz of course? Right? I mean, who was you gonna do with that? I don't even know why you backed that man in the first place. John Gibbs lost his bid for Michigan's district, which is crazy to be determined. Is herschel Bull? I cannot still can't get over the fact that that mug is in a runoff, Like, how is we how is we there? Joe Kent, he's seeking

to seeking Washington's third congressional district. Right losers in primaries is Lauren Colpu David Purdue went up against George's incumbent Republican Brian Kemp. Right, he lost the Kemp Now what's interesting about that is Kemp is a Republican. He just stayed clear of Trump. Right. Katie arlex uh Arrington. Right, she challenged the Republican representative Nancy Mace and lost. Right? Is that man still relevant? I mean we all thought that, like the Trump co sign was the cheat code, That's

what we thought. And then lastly, I mean, the question of relevancy really kind of in my mind plays out I rhanda Santis, which again, you're not fooling nobody. That's dos Antos. Maybe it's not. It showed who sounded like it to me. You know what I'm saying that like you're trying to whitewash that ship. Maybe not you, but somebody your family trying to el Ratio Santos. Anyway, that still cracks me up. I'll care what y'all say, Betho or Rourke cracks me up out there. Whatever are you

trying to lacking it up? You added, We've talked about this before. There's no if answer, butts, he's doing a Trump impression. He's just doing it without the assholeicness. Let me let me make a comparison. If you guys know the riving the trucks, the electric trucks, they're dope on the inside. Oh my gosh. There it's a luxury ride. It's like it's like a Tesla on the inside. And it's like, so it's it's all the luxuries of Tesla

without the e lin. You know what I'm saying, Ribbans, Really in the future, you you feel me, all the Tesla without the e lin. That's that's really the Santos is all the Trump without the Trump. You understand I'm trying to say right now? And you could tell Trump sweating about him because he got a nickname. Yeah, say, he tried to take this man out, you feel me? And what the Santos did was an impression of Trump without tapping Trump. Like, listen, remember how fifty did John Episode? I?

I like, I told you all man, I thought Margie Taylor Graham was gonna play make make a make make a play, but the the the episode was about the Santos. You feel me? Like that? How fifty did John? Yourself? I wondered, if it's happen baby, my prediction coming right?

You feel me? Now? What this means about the Republican Party's future is I mean, obviously there's a coming civil war happening, like it's gonna happen between between them two, Like I mean, if I'm reading the team, my intentance is like, yo, this is this is this is coming? You feel me? And this about the direction of the g LP, because whatever they're doing right now is I don't know, it ain't working. You know what I'm saying. Nobody, listen.

No one was able to spike the ball the democratic or republic Nobody on people they were spiked ball was the independence because they was like, I don't mess with none of y'all. So I'm looking for the least to many as you as possible, Like there's always was actually kind of one in this situation. But the question is not so much are y'all gonna move away from the fashness, from the from the the racist dog whistles, because ain't nobody talking about maybe your talking points is trash, you

know what I'm saying. What they're talking about is like how we present ourselves? Is this a return to the old guard like rhino Republican, you know, which is republican only in name, that's what rhino means. Lame, but like but basically this idea of just civility and you know, small like some you know, the you know republican nice you feel me where it's just like you're just nice,

you're approachable, racist you're right? Or is it more like no, it's the same been towards authoritarian fascism, just not as obnoxious about it. I don't know, I think that's coming next. So so you tell me, is is Trump relevant? What does relevant even mean? Do it even matter though, because when you got a fan base, what difference does it make? Little politics? Yeah, this is here thing was recorded by ME Propaganda and East Low Spoil Heights, Los Angeles, California.

This smug was mixed, edited, mastered, and scored by Matt Osowski. I can totally say his name, guys, it was it was a stick. He's going by Matt now again because he got two legal situations with the name Headlights. You know, comment used to be called common sense. You know, tip t I was tipped Sometimes it happens. Executive produced by the one and only Sophie Lichtman for a Cool Zone Media and the theme music by the one and only Gold Tips Gold Tips d J Shawn p. So y'all

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