Cracktoberfest Part Four: Why Ronald Reagan Should Have Gone To Jail

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Along the Watchtowers and the Princess all that good ship. Yep. Wow that that that makes me feel better about the fact that I have never been awarded anything. I am the Bob Marley of podcast whoa Stretched Armstrong? No one, but yeah, I agree, man, uh yeah, it's a good list to be on. Yeah, all right, were we at? Where were we at? Oh? I remember? Where were at? Where we when we laughed? Where we last left our heroes? Uh. Oliver North had a light bulb idea as to how

to solve this problem. He did. That's because he's aware of a whole other situation that's happened on the other side of the world that we have not yet talked about. And just for a brief aside, the reason that Ali is aware of everything that's happening. So I said in the first episode that um McFarlane has centralized all intelligence. So it's going through the NFC. They have this computer system and it's this physical set of terminals that like,

the data runs directly into the terminal. It's not like a you know, it's flying through the air or anything like. It's running along the these these wires to the specific set of terminals, and it's this group of three big screens that all of everything the United States as an entity knows about the world runs into these three screens. And the guys sitting behind the screens is Ali North and he was like on the internet before everybody, So Ali is aware of and he's also like in charge

of all this stuff, you know. So uh by Bud McFarland, he's like, look, can you do this? Can you fix this? So one of the things he's worried about is who we talked about in the beginning of this was the contrast this rebel group in Nicaragua who's fighting against the Sandinista's this again socialist group who overthrew their dictator, and Reagans just like jocking just he cannot be so just like rock hard for these guys, he calls from the

moral Yeah, I'm sure you're getting to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the yeah, the more the force of good in South America, like just all kind of just out of pocket extra shit about the contrast and that we need to support our brown brothers down south just absurd, right uh. And again, like we said before, it's based on this fear that socialism is gonna spread in the America's right, um on the western hemisphere period. You know, if you're gonna if we're gonna have communists, let them be on

the other side of the Atlantic. You know what I'm saying. At least it's not at least it's not on our side of town. But either way, he's like we rocks with the contrast and whatever they need. And he's been on the TV like, yo, whatever these fools need, we need to ride for him. And Congress is like slowdown, chief, Uh buddy, you'll remember Vietnam. Yeah, this shit don't work. Fam. Yeah, we're actually not okay with big writer. Die for these guys,

um because exactly. Yeah. So in two they passed what's called the Bowling Amendment, which is if you are a teacher, a parent, an older sibling, whatever the case, maybe you would resonate with something like this. It's one of those laws that or those rules that you can't believe need to actually be stated, you know, if you know, you know when you see one of those like please do not walk off this cliff, please do not lick the door knobs like that. Shouldn't have to tell you the

why is this a rule? Well, it's because somebody did walk off this click and somebody actually used to lick this door knob. So we had to make a law. And the law was and you can't use our money to overthrow Nicaragua. Yeah, you can't like it was abroad, it was you know, you can't just go overthrowing governments

and funding militant groups without asking Congress. Right, you can't just be you can't be cutting checks to overthrow government's fam like but pre texts for everyone who wrote was involved in making it was like specifically looking at what Reagan was trying to do in Nicaragua like that because yeah, yeah, because he wasn't high and he was like, no, we rock with them. Sandinistas are dangerous. We need to help these fools. And they're like, okay, listen, bro, We've been

down this route before. You can't just be cutting checks for these people like this. Uh. But Reagan's like, okay, word, I hear you, But like what if I want to? Though, you know what I'm saying. He's like, but but what if I But what if I you know, own our point? I want to So it was Bud McFarland's job to make sure that we still have these fools back without actually breaking this law. Right. So who does Bud McFarland put in charge? Oh Ali Ali Oxen free right, puts

the big armie in charge. So in Bud tells Ali, Uh, listen, this what we'll do. Hey, have the contrasts, set up this offshore account right this that you know and and and if you've seen a movie ever, you know what the offshore account is. You know what I'm saying. Uh, you know, uh for contributions that are made to them that are direct deposits to the cause. Ali is like, got you, let me tap in with some homies who know some people down there. So he hits Bill Casey

again from the CIA. He's like, Yo, who you got down there that can help us over there and set this thing up. So they so Bill Casey can nexting with the homie Adolfo Colero, right, who's big Nicaraguan businessman, big baller. You know what I'm saying, shock caller, moving in circles out there with the contrast and he so Bill Casey lays out the play. He's like, look, small amounts per month, but only small so that nobody notices it, right, and when it's time to go, because if you go big,

that's how you get caught, right. And if we do get caught, you know what I'm saying, the money is offshore, right, so nobody will know that the US had anything to do this at all. We don't want we can't have our name on none of this, but we want you to know that we got you. Right. Um, work sounds cool. So the next obvious question is like, all right, well

where is this money coming from? If the bowl Nack says that we can't fund this, right, that's cool, But there's no problem with us letting the homies no that our homies need some help. Yeah, yeah, we could just like, well we get funded, but we can promise favors to the King of Saudi Arabia or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder where the name Saudi Arabia came from. How did they get involved? Is this not the seventh country to

be involved in this story? Right? So you're right. So they say, hey, you know, we've been We've been slaying weapons to the Saudia's for a while. I think they might owe us some favors. You know what I'm saying. We've been selling And not only have we been selling them blicky's, I mean we've been selling them that good good I mean as Zaza, We've been giving them like the realness. So they look, they say, hey, listen, man,

we been it takes planes out of the sky. Yes, we've been shooting you to take plays out the sky because off your shoulder. This look, we ain't been selling you that gas like we've been giving you the zaza. You know what I'm saying. So if that's the case, hey, man, like, look, we're gonna need you to do us a favor real quick. We've been giving you this good stuff. Hey, I need you to sign slide of millie or two into this account, just just here and there, just the millie, right, you

know what I'm saying. And this, this is this is your way. This is your way of thanking us for giving you that good good Right, that's all we're gonna need from you, Saudi Like, all right, word, we got you. Will slide him a million month to the off shore. The problem is that's not enough, which is crazy that

that's not enough, right, So that's nuts. So now enter another acronym, uh, the NSPG, which is the National Security Planning Group, right, which they connect in June to talk about contra because listen, they find a run out of money and they're about to lose this and the only people that know the money is going through the saudiast is oh Ronnie Reagan, Oliver North, Bill Casey, and Budding Farland.

They're the only people that notice, and that's really who's in this group, right, And they're like, okay, so we need to figure out they need more money, right, how do we help the contrast right, which we're not supposed to be help in any way, but we slick, slick, kind of low key under the table figure out how

to do this, right. Uh So then they say, if anyone finds out that we're getting money from other countries to pay for this, if we're like, well, that's not tax cay perpayers money, we just got money from somebody else. If they don't do it directly, then they're like, not a's still impeachable, Like we can't just do that, right, But they're like, I still don't know how to do this. Cut to Oliver North right in the group text with Colero and nossaudis to making sure that the money is

going through, the money is going through. Everybody's cool, right, but again it's still not enough. But while everybody's sweating about this, the funny part is like dudes like Weinberger, who's like, listen, I don't understand what y'all problem is this is perfectly legal. Yeah, like we're not. We have not done anything wrong. Listen, we have no control over their money, right, and and just because we connected the two, that's not like just because we connected them. Yeah, I'm saying, like,

we haven't broken no laws here. Now. Vice President Bush Senior he's in the room and he's like, listen, man, what's I don't I don't understand what everybody worried about. What's wrong with us doing a solid for the homies? Right, as long as we don't get anything in return, we all agreed, let's it's it's okay. Let them keep doing what they're doing. And uh, if we get approval from the A G. From the Eternal General and now everybody knows this, then I don't understand what the problem is. Right.

Ronald Reagan like, okay, I get it, as long as I know one thing. This is one time. I was like, Okay, this is a good Ronald Reagan quote. He's like, this works as long as everyone keeps stay fucking mouth shut. I was like, great, if you don't say a goddamn thing. I was like, okay, Ronnie, all right, you do you show some humanity that I agree with. He's like, okay, Ronnie does understand. You can try to convince me this is legal, but just in case, I need nobody singing now.

As anyone who us know who's ever tried to put together a lick or a mission or a scheme, the more names involved, the more people involved, the more chances for problems. Right. But but still we're still in a situation where Oliver North is down there, you know, again, since he's the middleman between the Southeast, you know, Collaro and the Contrast. Right, the Contrasts are still just a rebel group. They're not a five star purple hearted general.

You know what I'm saying, Like Oliver North. So Oliver North down there kind of low key giving them game here and there, right, just like yo, man, okay, listen, So when we'll give you this, this is how you set stuff up, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, well, we'll figure it out, you know, and we'll try to

get you some more money. So while this is happening, in October of night four, the Congress passed another Bowling amendment that was like, okay, listen, you can't pay for the Contrast, but you also can't indirectly fund the contrast, Man, you're not allowed like we you know, you're not allowed to loophole funding a foreign military organism. We see what you're doing, letting you do this. Yes, we see what you're doing. Bro, I mean the wind up letting them

do this. And they eventually but they're just like, Bro, you can't just like, okay, listen, Doug again, we thought maybe this was clear, but you can't directly or indirectly fund them. So everybody who hears that that was funding indirectly the conscience goes, Okay. So so what you're telling me is we just have to come up with a better system to fund the conscious, right, that's what you're saying. Like, no, no, we're saying, don't do it. They're like, so do it better?

Got it right? So they're just like that means we gotta turn up. So five Oliver North gets them, gets the saudiast to double their monthly pledge. In between four and six. It says that the Saudis gave them thirty two million dollars to the contract. Ali knows it almost thirty two million dollars, right, It's like and he's down there, Ali, down there giving him all kinds of games, weapons, war strategy, eleven million in guns, eleven million dollars eleven million worth

of guns, and they still significant number of guns. Like that's not a tiny number of guns, it is. Yeah, So and they still lose. That ship goes far back that yes, a still losing. Yeah, listen what I mean. One of the things that is we should probably hone people in on on here if they haven't picked up on it. The Contracts are not a very good rebel group.

They not they this should have been. Yes, they do get better, like in terms of their competence at fighting, Like near the end of the story, they're like they're really bad at at being being an insurgent militia. It just really not doing well. And they've taken on another insurgent that over through another government who clearly got some more experience on you. You know what I'm saying, So like, fam, this should ain't working like and and it's like and

we're just dumping money into you. But again, as America or Reagan and them is concerned, we have a vested interest in y'all win in this war. And it's almost like, look the purse, the purse can't have a bottom on it because I need you all to witness, right, And now cut to Oliver North. Right, uh Ali, Remember this is all happening at the same time while we're still trying to get them hostages out. It's the same time, right, so we still ain't got no hostages. Jump saying we're

dumping money here. Now. Remember we're not giving the Southeast these weapons, they're buying them, right. But so the agreement was agreeing to sell to us, right. That was the part that I always missed when I was like trying to really understand the story growing up. I was like, well, I understand where the money coming from. Was like, well, no, they're buying It was like, they're paying for these weapons. Yeah. The fucking arms industry is getting their cut of this.

Yeah yeah, yeah, everybody making money, you know what I'm saying. So this is happening at the same time we still ain't got our hostages. So in November November five, Israel calls Oliver North to be like, okay, back to the beginning, our last Hawk missiles didn't clear customs. Remember we told you about that. It didn't clear customers list and it got sent back, right, So that's when Oliver North calls bud Vic Farland and tells Ronnie he's down for whatever. Right.

I Ran thinks Israel sabotaging this stuff, and they're like, if you if you blame America, they're gonna kill the hostages. Right. So we're in a situation that we got to figure out how to take care of both of these situations. There's not enough money here. We still ain't got our hostages over there. Incomes January six, the diversion. Now, according to Oliver North, he said, Goo Bonafar came up with it, right, and uh, we can't know because it was like a

movie scene where you out in London. Y'all remember that meeting, I said, when they talked in London. Right, they're out in London, they're having a conversation. You gotta picture a movie scene where the food Gabonafar pulls his food into the into the into the bathroom, turns the water on. Right, So nobody hear him talking, right, And according to Oliver North in his story, according to his story, he's like, listen, I got an idea how you could get an extra

millie for you? I got an idea and you can make an extra million on it, right, but it's gonna take a few steps. So he's like, okay, here's the plan, stopped using Israel. Okay, sell directly to Iran and mark up the price and take the rest and put it in that offshore account that the Nicaraguan set up. And if you won't to, won't you mark it up a little bit more and you can pocket a little bit

like you put in your life in danger here. Anyway, you're probably gonna go to jail over this ship, so you might as well make a little money, you know what I'm saying. And you know, boy scout Oliver North is like, well, I can never do that, right, But he doesn't do it, so he doesn't take the money right, but he definitely is like huh it basically huh So they need more money. We need our hostages. Iran thinks

Israel is the problem. So if we remove Israel, sell to y'all directly, mark it up, take that extra money, put it in an offshore account. That way, we get our hostages and we pay for this war that we're not allowed to pay for with money that actually don't exist, because remember we're not supposed to be settling to them anyway, so that in that case, if you if you work it right, the money never touches our account, it never comes into your bank account because the money are not

supposed to exist anyway. And again, like we said in the beginning, brilliant, right, although quite a bit of that money is going to wind up in a physical safe that all of our north keeps. Like he winds up, he's grabbing. There's points points of this where he's like paying off people in our government and stuff, and he's just like handing folks like bearer bonds he keeps in his fucking safe and the white It's hilarious. It's the most messiest, Like it's very messy because these people aren't

actually criminals. You know what I'm saying. All right? Uh So Ali goes up, pulls up to the new National um Security Advisor. His dude, John Poard Dexter, who I thought was a made up name, right, That dude's got a real last name, and he's really hard. Yeah, and he was like one of them like true believer type dudes, like first class and one like you know, Navy pH d and like nukes as being he's extremely smart, yes, and he had. He also he's he's described as being

extremely intelligent and having effectively no independent thought whatsoever. Like he's this brilliant man who who's never had an idea of his own, but he's unfailingly loyal. Yeah, he's just down, true believer down. So January, Reagan finally uh signs the finding right to drop the middleman, to be like, this is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna sign the finding. Remember he did the retroactive one, but which was already fraudulent. Now he's about to sign one that's gonna say we're

gonna cut out the middleman. The problem is it never goes to Congress, so Congress never saw it. Right, But the diversion is now off to the races. Right. So missiles that we sold to Iran for what should have been three point seven million was ten million. That's where we raised the price to from three point seven to ten million, and we take the extra six million and we fund them the constrass. Right, that was a plan. It was working, except we still ain't got the hostages.

They still gave them up. Bill Casey is fucking dead, yes, yeah or not. Casey Buckley is dead. Day you get like one guy or something. At one point in this like almost no movement at all, like that, they're they're handing over literal tons of weaponry and they're trying to get six dudes. Now, look, I'll tell you right now, if I've got six guys and you give me five hundred tons of anti air and anti armor weaponry, I'm

gonna give you those six guys because I'm an honest man. Um. But no, hisipal is just like, you know what, Now, see how long we can run it ahead, See how long we can run it. And at the end of the day, it's like, I don't blame them if y'all keep sending them. They're like, why would I stop? It seems like the US is just a gun paniata right now? Why not? Like there's a downside? And what's crazy is in this whole story, the real is the only real

ones in this story so far as has blood. Because they was like, look, we'll do it if you give us weapons. And I'm like, wait, so you'll still give us weapons even if we don't do our partners Iran? Yeah is Iran. They're like, wait, you'll still give us weapons if we don't give you what you want, I mean, we'll ship like you saying like I don't know. I mean that it's it's cool, right So anyway, Uh So Ronnie hits uh blud McFarland back and he's like, listen, dog,

I don't sucked up. I need some help here, right. So in May eight six they land in Tehran, right, uh, with a couple of spare parts of a hawk missile, a kosher cake for some reason, and a Bible as a chord in the Ronald Reagan story, and a chord in a Bible with a message from Ronald Reagan. Now, why in the world Ronald Reagan would think this was a good gesture is beyond me. But they were there to negotiate the terms of release, right, So basically it

was like, okay, we're moving out Gabana far. This is us talking like, let's talk face to face, all right, here's a situation, and as a sign of good faith, here's this. Here's this Jewish thing that I'm giving y'all right, at which I still don't understand why he thought that was a good idea unless it's a dig towards Israel. It just doesn't make sense to me. And a Bible. I don't get it. The point is, according to them, that's what they say. Now. Oliver North and Hissary story

is it wasn't no Bible. And the cake was something that he bought in Tel Aviv, right, which is why it was culture. Uh. But either way, they was in this meeting. They brought Blood back from from retirement because remember Bud was like, Dog, I'm out man, I don't want none of this. Bud came back to because Ronald asked him, and they was in this situation, and Ali was like, Okay, here's the move. That's what we're gonna say. We're gonna negotiate the terms is what it is. We're

here directly. You know, you ain't got worried about Bonafar, who has cash, plenty of checks, right, and and it's clearly in on the thing, right. So we're having a talk and then Bud flies off the handle, Blood throws the whole thing up. He was like the Iranian. The Iranians offered two hostages. It was like, okay, well we'll slide y'all two hostages. Bud was like, hey, hoey, it's everything or nothing. Nah, fam, we didn't come up here

for two for two. We came up here for everybody, right, and he was like look, look and and he leaning over and he leaning over to uh Ali and them, and he's like, listen, Doc, you gotta do this with these foods because they're not gonna They're not down, they're not going to give us anything. He was like, I knew they wasn't gonna do this because listen when we flew in here, they didn't even meet us for this meeting.

Like they wasn't day to say no cars. We had to straight like uber to this ship like they ain't got no we ain't got no hotel. We gotta figure this out. They're not really here for us. A matter of fact. Uh they had us waiting for two days. He was like, fool, we had this meeting. We've just been sitting here for two days waiting for these foods to come. You don't understand. You ain't gonna hustle in you. He was like, they hustling us, fam nah everybody or nothing.

That was Bud's thinking, because you remember Buds Gangster. Yeah right, so uh so he's like, um, all right, well, either we could do this, try to figure this out, you know, all or nothing, and while they're saying all or nothing, Irandon already unloaded the plane, so they already got the weapons, so they they already got the parts, so they don't even worried about anything. You talk about anything anyway, We got all these parts, right, which meant that they paid

for it. So they was like, we're gonna get you. We'll we'll pay for the money, but we're still not gonna give your hostages. And we already got the pieces anyway. So so so the negotiation is done. So yeah, I mean, y'all want what y'all want to do. Y'all want, y'all gonna head back home, right, So he goes head back home. They all on the plane. So Oliver North calls back home and he tells and uh and he's and he's and and oh, I forgot this is an important part

about this. Bud McFarland don't know about the diversion. Bud don't even know about the raising the price to to send it to to Iran like or to send it to uh Nicaraga. He don't even know. Because again the c i A like, they're not they don't like the NSC right. All these organizations are greedy they all want to be like running shipped through themselves, so like everybody's

compartmentalizing information and stuff. Yeah. Head, so they on the plane. So, uh they on the plane right now, on their way back home, and they're like damn dude, like Ali, like, damn man, that's dang. It didn't work again. But at least we got the dough for the for the contrast. He just slips, or at least we got the doll for the contrast, right, and but it's like, yeah, wait, what we got to what now? So he's like, oh,

he just dry snitched on himself. So now he's like, uh, well, I guess I guess I guess that's what we're doing. So he's like, well, tell the President that the negotiation failed, right, I guess that's it. So flashback to eighty six. We're still trying to deal with Nicaragua. Right. So finally August six, Reagan finally convinces the Congress to pass to Chill on the Bowling Act. Right, so there's a hundred million dollars

appropriation bill. Now keep in mind, we been paying these foods for three years, Joe said, but now you didn't. Finally got the Congress to agree to a hundred million dollars appropriation bill. The Republican Republican just like back then, just like now, are like, yo, let's ride. The Democrats are like okay, cool, wait, but we have so many questions, like we're just you're just gonna cut a check for these people, Like what, okay, can we can we discuss

this a little bit? Didn't answer. This man named Lee Hamilton's right, he's from the Intelligence Committee in the Congress, And he asked Oliver North and them like, okay, listen, bro, we've been We've been discussing this ship for a while. I need you to keep it a whole century with me, keep it a buck with me, bro a hundred keep it real. You've been down there with the contrasts already. Have you been given them military advice this whole time? Son? Right?

And it's like, listen, we don't look the laws already passed. Okay, it's already fast, bro. And he's a lot of this is happening in d C. Like he's meeting with their reps and handing them fucking bags of cash that he takes out of a safe in the fucking headquarters of the US government. It's fucking it's so funny. Oh, it's

it's such just like crime stuff. Like it's not like they just they did a thing and then found out after, oh my god, we violated some sort of congression Like no, no, dude, you're you're shoving bearer bonds into a sack to hand him to a dude who you are now telling how to kill people like it is the war's equivalent of Shaggy's classic song it wasn't me. That's right, that's right there, you got me in a shower, it wasn't me, Like you just cut just picture it where he uh, what's

that fucking service? You can pay famous people who are kind of on the down slide to record videos for you? What is that? Uh? Is all the north On cameo? We could get him to do that. It would be pretty Yes, you just oh man, it's so funny. Yeah, it's just it's totally a movie. It's like when you ask when you ask him, hey, have you been doing this already? You just cut to the flashbacks of him doing all this ship and him being like, Okay, I know this is the great place you want to be.

I know what y'all know. If you're the one doing the crimes. It's better for me to know how much everybody else knows. And I know y'all don't know ship, right, So you need to craft the answer to say, I'm gonna only give you an answer that confirms what I know you already know, and only as much as I know. So his answer quote, Well, I'm a military man, and when I sit down with other military men, it's inconceivable

that we won't talk about military things. So even if I thought I could give them good advice, you and I both know we can't run this war from Washington, okay. Unquote okay some text, Uh yeah, we're actually running this war from Washington. Yeah. And they're literally like giving them stuff like, hey, we need you guys to do an offensive. Now you've got to like try to take this area, this these camps and stuff back because we need to be able to like put some victors, some some dubs

on the board. Like it's very direct coordination. He's literally coordinating this war. And then they asked him something like, hey, uh look, just just keep it real. Have y'all been raising money for the Constress? He was like nah, uh nah, what what wait? Like raising money. Uh nah, hey, hey, but hey, hey yo, hey, we weren't. No, we haven't raising money, wine Burger, do do you know? Vid? No, we haven't raising no money. That's cool, right, And the

Congress is like, well, I guess that covers it. So uh he said no, So I mean he said he didn't. So yeah, I guess you want to cut the check? Everybody? Everybody good, every good? We cut the check. Right, we did our work, We did our job. We're supposed to ask he said, no, I don't know to tell you. Right, the rest of just paperwork seems easy. M hm. Right now we are now back at October of right before the money was supposed to get cleared. Right before this,

a hunted Milly was supposed to get clear. Jean from Wisconsin had asked, getting shot out of the sky, Oh Jean got dammit, Geen? Fuck did all of Jean? What do you do? And your name is Gene and you're from Wisconsin. What are you doing in Nicara doing? Come on? Hassing foss is this ship? Get get out of here? So Bill Casey like, look, burned the books, now I'll get out. Now, we got to get out. Now we coat we burnt blow yeah, start throwing some ship in

the furnace. Yes, look, everybody shredding. It is not going to be Oliver North player. Everybody, you ain't gotta go home. You gotta get the hell out of here. Dog right, time to go, Time to go, down to go, everybody, time to go. Now, this him near burnt the White House down behind them. Yes, this is the This is the famous ship that I remember being a very small child and seeing on television. Right and and don't that what's her name? Uh? President Biden just talked about UH

officers getting reparations over this ship, right is? He says, says, everybody gotta go home. We need no evidence. And by I mean no evidence, I mean we are bulldozing these buildings, digging a big hole, throwing everything in the pill everything in the old nigga, the chairs, the printer, the desks, the water cooler, everything going this whole burn the ship on fire, and the man the jungles in Nicaragua, just burn the ship, burn it off like burn everything, right,

So why everything getting burned? Gene from Wisconsin had asked, is doing an interview with Mike Wallace on sixty minutes? Awesome? Good call, Jean get your money, Jean. I have so much respect for Gene, for Gene from Wisconsin, because Jene, it was like, you're gonna pay me to do what? To fly? To fly where? Word? Oh oh, y'all nothing okay? And you just you guys, you guys just said you don't know. Man, You just said exactly, I don't know what kind of cards do you think you had left

over me here? Because when worst came to worst, when we was down, when ship hit the fan, do you understand what I'm saying? You was not down? Okay? Cool, I'm gonna go get my money. Then you know what I say. I look, Gene, Gene and the Iranians are the realist people in this story. Yeah. Ja was like, all right, so well now that's bullshit. This is what they had me do. My man was on sixty minutes

telling this old story. So then, oh man, so now but although in October of eighteen eight or nine eight six, because the bolden Act thing was repealed, they really now we don't need no diversion, so we can stop, we can stop like trying to hide it out all this stuff. Right, But uh, as long as like Reagan said, everybody keeps stay mouth shut. However, as we all know, no one ever keeps their mouth shut. Now, then in the history of keeping your mouth shut, no one ever keeps stay

mouth shut. We did an episode on her politics about like, like how many years you gotta throw somebody before they start snitching? You know, And I don't care how hard of a gangster they are, Like year five years, that's a vacation. You have somebody hold you know, hold your money, you know what I'm saying. Like holiday was cool, Like as long as you're good, you got enough people in the sin, you could do a year, you could do two years. Start talking about ten years, you start talking

about twenty five years. They people start sounding like Mariah carry out this mouth like you become you become Rihanna, like food starts singing when you throw enough time on him. Right. And also, if you're a journalist, oh there's some pulletzer prise ship, Like you're gonna change your life forever you break this story. So in November of a newspaper in Lebanon called Al Shara drops the expose and fam day name names everybody involved, Day name names dead, fool Day

lit this thing up. Now all of America is like, Uh, what the hell, White House, y'all got something to say? The White House is like, oh, uh what this is so weird. I don't what are you talking about? I don't know what she's talking about. That's crazy, right, it's crazy, right, she was saying. You see all that that they said, it's crazy, right, I don't know, right, So you can

kind of play it off. But again, everyone snitches, and not only does everyone snitch when you have somebody like a character like a Ronald Reagan, right, which is what you're watching play out in a lot of ways, just in a very uncouth way with Donald Trump, in the sense that if a person feels like they too smooth to get caught, they'll start dry snitching on themselves. Then they don't listen to That's That's the one thing about

learned about a narcissist. A narcissist will always reveal their play, always because they need you to stroke their ego, right, They need you, they need you to be impressed about their prowess. So and they're gonna go off script because they believe they're invincible always in the same way that Trump snitched on itself about about the box of clas to find documents that was laid out on the floor when he was like, man, they spread it out there, they spread all that ship out on the floor, Like

I was a slob. I kept all my documents in a nice folder. Oh, we're the documents that you ain't supposed to have, the ones that you said that you

already gave back Joe till. I'm like, fam, you just you just dry snitched, Like, oh so you do got the documents right, right, So we're gonna watch President uh Reagan continue to try to try to dance right now, the first person to actually snitch is the weirdo Don Reagan, right, um, Because again, if you're in a situation like this, like you have to, like anybody in this situation, who do you think everybody's gonna try to protect? I mean the boss? Right,

You're gone. Yeah, that's the way that works, especially like Ronald is he's gotten reelected by the point that this breaks, but he's also kind of losing his ship, right Like he's he's seriously like Nancy is kind of running things for a large chunk of this. Yeah. Yeah, so Nancy's running up. He's he's starting to lose his marbles. But

he's still to don't He's still to boss. And if you know that, you start what you should do is start calculating where on the totem pole you are, because the lower you are, the most likely you're gonna get thrown to the wolves. Right, So, if you got any sense, you like, I need to set this shut up for myself because you're not gonna look out for me. You'll remember Jeane Hawson fast from Wisconsin. You're not gonna look out for me, you know what I'm saying. So, uh,

you you should know what this situation right. Um, but now this now that's now this snitch Don Reagan, who nobody knows it's a snitch at the time. They call Washington Post. Um, they say, he say the President didn't have nothing to do with it. He was trying to like, which is which is quite a calculation for him. He's like, all right, let me not I'm a snitch, but not on the big Boss, because I don't want that to

come back and bite me in the ass later. So he snitches and the person he throws under the bus is Bud McFarlane. Yeah, and he says that man never told the president what he was doing. Of course that's a lie president, of course, And and and there's yeah, the President definitely knew. There are a bunch of shady things where like McFarland will say, well, no, I got his specific approval before I did this thing, and it'll be like, well,

when did you do that? Well, I called him and he's like, well, there's not a record of this phone call. And there's now there's other records of Reagan knowing about it, Like yeah, you know, that doesn't mean on the day to day. Just to make the point, McFarland absolutely lies, of course what Reagan knew, but Reagan also knew, although it is possible that the Alzheimer's caused him to lose

significant pieces of it. Absolutely, And it's like and when you run in a lick like this, and especially like Bud McFarland and Ronald Reagan, like they're actually like buddies, you know what I'm saying. So it's very possible that like he is just like calling on a fly, like oh, by the way, they're just hanging out or something. It's like,

by the way, but it was during a thing. Yeah, yeah, I gotta send six million to yeah to Iron You cool, Okay, you know what I'm saying, like you dialing around like the what specifically did the president? No, well that's a harder question to answer. But did did the president know and approve of the plan? Yes? Absolutely? Yeah yeah so so uh so the hope was that, like listen, tell this, tell this, tell this cover story. Ed Meee was the Attorney General at the time, and he's like, listen, Bud,

Bud retired, right, So Budd retired. He's not gonna lose his job. If we put everything on Bud, Bud knows everything, We're we're cool, right, like, then then that way we can get out of it. That's the story, Ronnie. That's the story, is like Budd did the thing. Here's the situation point. Dexter hollazat at Bud and he says, yo, if you tell Donna back off, like Don out here

trying to like drag me. I remember I said later on that Don tells this story to the press that Budd is cheating on his wife, just like just a dick hole, right, So Bud, it's like, okay, I'll take some of this seat, but fuck Don Reagan, like you know what I'm saying, Like you're not gonna do this to me like this, He's like, okay, cool, just protect the president. Now, reaganga and slaughtered. This is this is the least popular he ever is. He kinds of has

a breakdown around this point. Nancy is running the show. He's basically hiding and watching like old movies on television. No one can reach him. Um, they actually there is a period of time where they consider, um, they actually like bringing an outside guy to secretly analyze Reagan whether or not they need to do a twenty fifth Amendment and like pull his ass over there because he was losing it, which is how he how he dipped dipped

out of impeachment. Yeah. I was like, well, don't be cool. Um, so he getting slaughtered and guess what, dim hostages is still in Iran, which is still funny to me. It's not funny because that's their life. But it's like all this ship and you still ain't got the hostages. Uh. But he says he has to make some sort of statement. Now, if you are Reagan again, your pride is involved here? Right. If the story is they're doing all this ship up under my nose and I don't know it, then I

look like a punk. You know what I'm saying, So, like, I don't know how cool I am with this point, Dexter says, Listen, he tells the press. Uh, listen, it was I know everybody was saying this was about arms for hostages, and it was not FAM. This was always about being good with Iran because everybody know they're crazy over there, so we needed to make sure that we was good over there. We was tapped in. Everything was cool,

and it all happened in eight six. Anything before that, Yo, that was Israel like it Remember that was the cover the whole time, running through Israel. So that when you can, so you can tell your people if it do come out like, oh, I don't know, FAM, that was Israel. Like whatever they did with them that I don't know. You could check the ledgers. We would sell and them stuff because that's what we do. We've been selling them stuff for years. Like I don't understand the problem, right, uh,

but everybody knows. Look, man, somebody's got a role. Don Reagan's Like, listen, man, head gotta roll. This story ain't gonna hold up. People gonna figure this out. And as long as that head ain't Reagan, we're gonna be cool. Right. So, h Reagan goes with the story, right, but he got to go talk to Congress right now, This is where it gets super funny. Right. So now we're in November twelve,

this is six and Reagan gotta talk to talk to Congress. Right, We're talking Bob Dole, We're talking bit Cheney, right, all these like big, big like Reagan stands that ended up ruining and most of our childhood as they became part of the leadership of our government. Right. Uh So the Congress is like, okay, fam, when did this start? Uh? Uh? Well, I think it started in November five, but we don't

do no transfers to the heaters until six. Um. Yeah, I mean that's a total lie, right uh And the Reagan says, Yo, yeah, this was like a clandestine thing because we don't negotiate with people. That ship is a lie. He out here trying to be a cowboy, like you think you really y'all really think y'all really think I'm that much of a punk. Then I'm gonna be out here negotiating with these terrorists. That's a lie. Fam. I don't be negotiating with no terrorists. That's not what I did.

I had this clandestine ship and and and point dexter in them is like, NIGGD. If you don't shut the funk up, you're not supposed to know what happened. That was the story. The storyline is, you don't know what happened. He's like, nah, man, I let them make sure they we don't negotiate with terrorists. Like okay, fam, oh lord, here we go. So after all this, Shultz meets with everybody and he's like, George Schultz is like, Fam, I

tried to tell y'all this ship wasn't gonna work. I tried to tell y'all this what's gonna happen, right, And Don is like, look, if everybody stick to the script, it's gonna be cool, right Uh. But Shultz is like, listen, this math ain't mathing. Everybody gonna figure this out. This is Watergate all over again. Right, it's not gonna work. It's I'm trying to tell y'all Reagan losing his marbles, right,

don't let this man talk. But I'm telling you. Shoult is like, fam, who were gonna throw under the bus because they gonna figure this ship out? Like, people are not stupid. This story don't make sense. The story we're telling them don't make sense, and the numbers are obvious. Right, this is Watergate all over again. So then now it's like Reagan again with his like I'm a superhero, was like, okay, listen,

let me go ahead and talk to the nation. When now in this situation, anybody who got any sort of like street you know, any sort of like street wisdom, would know that you are now in a posit and where you are going to look people in the face and lie to him. So you this was wrong. This is not the move, fam, because now you officially lied to our face. Right before it was confusing, before it was just uh, just you know, ambiguous. Now you've been a lot to us, right, So he was like, listen,

what they're saying about me ain't true. I made no concessions and we didn't get him no gun guns America. Like, Fam, he's gonna lie to us like that, like this is so obvious what you did. And he like, I'm trying to tell y'all, this ain't one we did. Right that same day, point Dexter getting grilled, right, and he like, listen, dog,

we ain't getting more weapons. Okay, maybe a few weapons because a couple of weapons, a couple right, and then Reagan on November ninety doubling down, and reporter says, Yo, then this is the part that like went viral if their version of viral. Right, one of the reporter it was like, Yo, you say you ain't trade no weapons for hostages, but um, every time one of them hostages kind of came home, the records show a major shipment of guns. Uh, what's that about. That's kind of weird.

It's like when a hostage lands weapons leave. That kind of seemed like, I mean, I'm just reading the ledger, it kind of seemed like you was giving weapons for hostages, right, that kind of looked like that and breaking in them. Like, look, dude, ship weapons all the time. If it happens at the same day, I mean, I don't tell you, fami, it just kind of happened at the same time, right. Uh. And it's just your lie getting getting worse and worse

and getting paper thin. Somebody's gonna figure this ship out. Somebody gonna have to take this fall because the script ain't working and the scripts only kind of true, right, and Reagan keep talking too much the more you talk, because he feeling like you know, you know, when you lying and people figuring out your lie, yo, yo, yo yo, your instinct is to double down. But once you start doubling down, like I said, you start dry snitching. It's getting worse and worse and worse. And your story is

not adding up. This It don't make sense. This is what's playing off all over the news. If Twitter was around on this time, this would be just a great time in Twitter. The sit not making sense right November twenty, Shultz is telling him, like, listen, bro, just come clean right, just this. They're gonna figure it out. And if they figure it out, it's worse, right, And Reagan does text buck White Boys stuff, and he says, uh, listen, I didn't mean this is great again textbook. Why didn't mean

to sell weapons for hostages? So if I didn't mean to do it, I didn't do it. Yeah, my my heart tells me I didn't do it. But literally a thing he says, yes, So there's just this intention say we didn't do this, but all the evidence says we did. So who's to say what happened? Well that's my Reagan? Yes we so. Uh. The next day they like, look, this is we're gonna do. We're gonna lunch an internal investigation, right and mess like, look, let's launch an internal investigation.

Let's figure out what's going on. Let's holler at the National Secretary Advisor, right, point Dexter and figure out these findings. Right, So point Dexter knows exactly what he gonna find out because he gonna find out that the papers that were supposed to be turned in and finding was never turned in and one of them was backlogged. So basically, when he finds them papers which we all know exist, is going to prove that the president knew everything. Right now,

guess who else knows all this? Oliver mop and North Yep, he sure does. He know all this and got all the paper when everything comes into He's got it all. And if this fool got at all, there's a there's papers for everything. So he's like, well, what is the most logical thing to do right now? Probably the same thing you did in Nicaragua. You just gotta get rid of the evidence, right first, make a copy so I can have my own. You need to get rid of everything.

This is These are serious felonies, y'all. Like, let's let's not let's Okay, I mean they can't shred government documents to cover up war crimes like this. This is terrible, right, So he calls his assistant like a dumbass. So he caused his assistant to go do it right, which again crime number one, one on one. You can't just send somebody, even I don't care how close this person is. You can't send somebody else to come do this. You need to make sure this ship is done correctly, right, because

if anything is missed, everybody going to jail. So they go about and they shred fifteen months of correspondence, right, fifteen months and one and missed Robert. They missed one document. Well, that's pretty good, and that one document prove the whole thing of all the documents that they shredded. They did it shred. Follow me, follow me. The one document they did it shred was a memo entitled the diversion Memo. Yeah, the crime note how to crime, How we're going to

break the law repeatedly. Amazing, guys, what we're going to do that we're trying to cover up? Memo? You get so lazy when the whole apparatus of government is on your side, Like that's that's really what this is. It's the same thing you see from all these like right wing groups being like, here's our meeting chat where we're going to overthrow the government. Meanwhile, kids who are like, I don't know, burning a police car with nobody inside.

It's been like years planning and like the rest of their lives, frightened that the laws behind them and burn all of their clothing, never see each other again. Meanwhile, the guys trying to overthrow the entire government, like, let's just do a signal loop for that, and I'll loopen my guy with the Trump White House and we'll just all get in the same group and figure out how we're gonna kill all those things. All good, bro, Literally a memo called the Diversion. Now you nerds like you

named it the crime? What the hell is wrong with y'all? You know, saying so, so that's the one that got out, because that's the one they missed. Now by this point, Ed Meets knows everything you know. Reagan is still you know, stiff lift. I don't know what's going on. I do nothing wrong. Literally, the document shows that you absolutely did right. The NSC has got all kind of private memos right, Uh,

they gotta blame somebody. Point dexter Finder resigned. Oliver North is the only person they can blame because it all came out of his office. Now, the next thing that happens is the independent investigation from Lauren Walsh. Now this be Now what happens, uh that what plays out in public is the part that a lot of us are familiar with. It's when a special investigator, this is their version of Robert Mueller, right comes on the scene and

comes in. Just picture the slow motion and this dude's retired, like just the nerd, retired at home. I'm tired of doing this lawyer thing. They sent him this situation and he's like, oh ship, damn God, damn, Okay, yeah, I'll investigate it. He do the investigation. Foods come on TV and what was what was televised? Which is so crazy, it's like just it's almost like the beginnings of how

we see politics. Now. What was what was what was televised was the Oliver North trials, and that man ended up being on the cover of Time magazine as one of the greatest patriots. Because Oliver North figured out how to play the game. He was like, Okay, listen, I'm gonna go to jail for this ship. I'm gonna go to jail as a patriot. And he became this like right wing superstar. Oh yeah, No, I watched his fucking TV show all the time when I was a kid.

He got a TV show with Oliver North. I think he's still on the air Oliver North bro for running this thing. But basically he became the fall guy now years later, right, you go after so after President Reagan was President George Bush Sr. And there had to be an agreement that like, and you're not gonna like, You're not gonna impeach me later? Right, He's like, Fam, why

in the hell would I impeach you later? Of course I'm not gonna because if I impeach you, Nigga, I'm going to jail because I was in the room the whole time. Fam, So why would I not do that? But a trial did happen where Reagan Ronald Reagan, believe it or not, This is the part that like surprised me.

Ronald Reagan was put on trial for this. It's just he was so far into his Alzheimer's at the time that he was able to be like, well, I don't recall, well, I don't recall he became the quote that all of us love, which is not to my recollection? Did you up not to my recollection? Would you there? I remember, not to my recollection. So President Reagan actually got it. Oh what, No one except for Oliver North I saw any real time? Yea, And yeah, all of our and

Earth's war stories ran for fifteen years. Yeah, and that my friend and all them Fox News dollars, and that, my friend is the Iran Constra scandal. What a what a great story. It really is a great story. I'm proud to be in American right now. And as you guys will find out in the book endings of these series that there was other ways that Nikkarabua thanked us. They did, they showed their gratitude in a way that

uh was was deeply felt in the United States. And we will be getting into that, or have been getting into that, or are you're you'll hear that too. It's all coming out, it's all, it's all, it's all going to be in your ears, this this whole week. Yeah, beautiful. In this stage of of recording, we actually don't know which order these episodes are coming out we're working it out, yes, but but anyway, so that's it. I ran contra uh so, who's the bastard? Uh n s e c I A

Ronald Reaga. I don't know at the point. All the North is my favorite guy in it, just because he's such like he's such a fucking criminal and such a bad criminal, and it's really funny how bad he is it doing crime. It really is. Yeah, I gotta give my vote to Ali. Yeah, and then I'm like, but then I'm like, again, real ones, my real ones in this story. I still Bona farre still my favorite. Oh yeah, Now, Gabonafar is the actual, like coolest dude. He's the coolest

dude in here. He's an absolute war criminal, but he is the coolest dude in his story of the war criminals. He's he's just such a little scamp. It's like, you're gonna just rob him again, aren't you, buddy? Yeah you did. You fucked him over again again. Bro, They're never gonna catch on and just and just he saw it, like he just disappears from the record. I don't know, I have no idea. Last thing they talked about him and all the records was he cast a million dollar check.

Ain't seen him a sin he probably and some other records I couldn't find. No where are they now? Is Wi Goo Bonafar? Yeah? Why would you know? You? You you go right off into the sunset with all of the money that you made. Yeah, and Gene from Wisconsin's head asked, I don't know where he is either, but I still love the fact that that man did a sixty minutes. We could probably we could probably find that way, Gene. I I wish you the very best of luck, gen Um.

Just stay the funk away from Nicaragua. Just don't don't be flying no weapons in Nicara. Yeah, we're good, We're good. You fl me some weapons, Gene. Dude, I would love to go visit. Gene. Just be like, yo, just tell tell me some stories, bro, Like tell you what with Like how many missions did you run? Like they don't say that, you know what I'm saying, Like did you ever get a chance to actually kick it in Nicara? They're not gonna they're not gonna say that telling nobody

that hilarious. Yeah, well that's about it. Robert Evans behind the Bastards pod I right, Okay, After the revolution, you can find it on a K press. You can find it on a K press. That's right, Sophie. You know what else you can find is my book everywhere else? Uh, it's it's available everywhere else. So just google After the Revolution Robert Evans and buy the book from wherever Amazon,

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