Smallpox History and Homeopathy

Bri Hurlburt  0:00  
Hey, everybody, today is a bonus episode for you on a different day. We wanted to hop on here and do this because many of you have probably read the news lately that was released last week now, so we wanted to get this out in a timely manner. We don't want to get into a bunch of politics necessarily, but our heart in sharing this with you is to help you get prepared. If this smallpox thing never happens, we don't have to worry about it. But if it does, or anything starts getting spread, we have resources. We wanted to share our heart a little bit before we jumped right in. I know we have quite a bit of information to cover and then some remedies we can share with you. 

Melissa Crenshaw  0:51  
That's right, because we want you to be prepared. This is real life. Just in case any of you have not heard the news, there were 15 vials found last week in the back of a freezer or something that just were labeled "smallpox." It's been maybe four or five days since that was found, and apparently it's being investigated. I honestly don't know what what has unfolded over the weekend and I don't want to get political at all. Like Bri already said, I want just want you to be prepared. I have gotten so many texts and calls and emails asking which remedies to use, so that's why we want to do this episode right now. It'll be easier to share with you and you can share it with other people. If you want to prepare, do it, and if you don't don't, this is definitely not to bring fear. We have zero fear over this. 

To begin, smallpox was actually eradicated 40 years ago if you want to believe what the authorities say. Itcould have been eradicated before then or possibly never. But what I want to share, and I'm going to link the news articles that I have in the show notes so that you can read about it yourself look into it, is just a little bit of history about smallpox. I've got this history from The Informed Parent. It's a website, and there's an archive section on that website. All the texts that I'm going to talk about for this history part are from that website in the archive section, so you can go and read them in detail.  In the ninth century, there was a Persian scientist named Rhazes who said that smallpox was seasonal, particularly in the spring, predominantly in children, and it was a result of something innate in each child. What I find interesting about that, is that if Smallpox is going to be released, like what happened with COVID, then apparently it is going to be December or January. Then, the spring is when people would likely really start getting sick. The nature of smallpox is of matter being discharged from pustules. If you ever look it up, you'll see lots of pustules on the skin, and they they need to be oozing. There needs to be stuff coming out of these out of these pustules. This Persian scientist said that it means there's something undesirable in the body that's trying to be eliminated through the skin. We believe that with eczema, too. When there's a gut issue or something wrong in the body, our bodies try to throw these things out through the skin. And what do we do? We suppress it with creams or gels or ointments or steroids or whatever. We don't let it come out, which then causes future chronic conditions. The main aim of treatment of smallpox back then was to address the imbalance in the body and figure out what's going on. That was very holistic, right? Just like what we do now. It's the same thing with all childhood infections - measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox - they're all acute diseases where your body's trying to throw out impurities to cleanse the system. 

800 years later, into to the 1600s, was Dr. Sydenham. He was looked at as the English Hippocrates and also referred to smallpox as inflammation of the blood as Rhazes did. Doctor Sydenham recognized back then in the 1600s that there was mild and there was severe Smallpox. There were almost like two different kinds, or two different types, that were in existence. This was before there were any vaccines. I say that because some people will say that smallpox was all severe and then turned mild because of the vaccine. There were mild and severe cases before the vaccine. Dr. Sydenham also talked about the danger of too much interference. He was saying that if you leave it be, meaning just let the kids get the the childhood diseases and don't interfere too much, then you might go through it very swiftly. One interesting thing is that neither of those doctors talked about the contagion of smallpox, they weren't worried about it being contagious. They said it was more a way of the body cleansing itself from an undesirable buildup of toxins. Remember, we're talking about 1600s here. What was causing smallpox generally, when there were epidemics in large towns, was the the poor, unsanitary conditions. There were lots of people living together in very unsanitary conditions, breathing on each other, not having fresh water, fresh air, good food, and they had the highest instances of smallpox and all of the diseases back then. 

Inoculation is different than vaccination. A lot of people will interchange the two terms and say inoculation and vaccination are the same, and they're not. Inoculation was actually spreading smallpox. In the 1700s, the mortality from smallpox on the whole was higher than the 1600s. So in the 1600s, kids were getting smallpox, mild or severe. Once they started inoculation, the the death rate rose much higher. It actually become became higher since they started all the inoculation, and they believe that the prime cause was inoculation. I thought this was very interesting. One of the doctors wanted to introduce isolation. He wanted to have special hospitals for smallpox cases, and the other doctors were saying, No, we have vaccination. Vaccination is going to protect everybody from smallpox, so we don't need isolation. We don't need a separate hospital. They continued just doing vaccination and the death rate continued to rise, the instances continued to rise. Then they said, Okay, maybe we do need isolation and a separate hospital, so they made this separate hospital just for smallpox cases. 81% of the people that died in that hospital had been vaccinated before. 

Bri Hurlburt  10:04  
That's pretty crazy. 80% of the people that were admitted were found to be vaccinated, which really means that we credit a lot of the eradication to the vaccine, but it doesn't look like that is what changed? 

Melissa Crenshaw  10:28  
That's right. It was a sanitary condition. This is the the big debate which we've all heard. 

Bri Hurlburt  10:36  
Maybe it was a combination of both, but in this case, the stats don't look like the vaccinations were causing less cases. That is really interesting. I haven't ever researched smallpox like I have the other childhood diseases. This is all new information, so I don't have a lot of questions. I'm taking it all in.

Melissa Crenshaw  11:02  
Well, I don't know if I'll have the answers, but I do have a lot of information here and this is all stuff that I learned. I didn't just go to this website, The Informed Parents, I learned these or I combined several different lectures into my notes here that I learned in school. The professor that taught this, that's his website, so he has all of his information on there for people to go look at. If you've taken one of our Gateway classes, Gateway I actually, Bri and I talk about the terrain theory versus the germ theory. Let me just touch on that. Some of you might already know, but Beauchamp was around the same sort of time as Louis Pasteur. Both of them are French. Louis Pasteur was looking into germs and how they evolved, and he came up with a very different opinion than Beauchamp. Beauchamp said that whether you get sick or not depends on the soil where the germ is evolving, meaning your internal soil, internal environment, your immune system. He said that these germs and microbes can change based on how healthy you are. 

Bri Hurlburt  12:45  
This is basically gut health, right? Yep. 

Melissa Crenshaw  12:49  
At least 75% of your immune system is in your gut. So they'll change if you change the environment. There could be a group of us in a room and the flu virus be flying around the room, and some of us will get it and some of us won't. 

Bri Hurlburt  13:10  
And he is from the camp that says that's because each person's terrain is differnet?

Melissa Crenshaw  13:18  
That's right. Beauchamp said that we've got to address the toxicity of the soil, which means, obviously, addressing your lifestyle, nutrition, and all the things. There was a guy, I don't have his name, who was corresponding with Beauchamp until he died. He did a lot of translation for Beauchamp from French to English, and he was saying the study of these other discoveries, by Beauchamp "will produce a new departure and a sound basis for the sciences of biology, physiology, pathology," which are today floating chaos, uncertainty and confusion because of the Louis Pasteur kind of viewpoints. I think he said, too, "it's also hope that it'll bring the medical profession back to the right path of investigation, and a practice from which it had been led astray" because of the germ theory of disease. Beauchamp declared Louis Pasteur's germ theory one of the greatest scientific sillinesses of the age. But you see again, Louis Pasteur was buried in a comfortable, marbled room with a nice big tomb. They glorified him, and he was the father of the germ theory. He even admitted near the end of his life that he was wrong about the germ. He said, “The germ is nothing. It's the soil.”  Some of his colleagues were in agreement with Beauchamp's theory.

Bri Hurlburt  15:13  
If you had to give a short version of what the germ theory is as opposed to the terrain theory for people who don't know what we're talking about, how would you put that in just a little nugget of information? 

Melissa Crenshaw  15:26  
The germ theory says that it's the germ - you're basically a victim walking around waiting to catch whatever germ comes your way. That's why everybody has hand sanitizer all over everywhere. They wash down their grocery carts and they use hand sanitizer all over their hands all the time, and they think that they can protect themselves from the germs. Then, to the germs that are flying around the air, you're just a victim and you just there's nothing you can do about it. Beauchamp said no, you have a responsibility actually to strengthen your body with good food. And when we treat acute conditions with homeopathy, we don't suppress them, therefore we don't cause chronic conditions in the future. 

Bri Hurlburt  16:16  
So personally, would you say that adding to our healthy terrain involves sometimes dealing with minor acute illness or even things that we maybe would consider more serious? I'm thinking this because, even as healthy people in our family, we have been sick a lot lately. I have small kids, and we were just talking about how actually these smaller illnesses build their healthy terrain. So even though they have the "germ" or maybe they are sick, that it's actually building and that it's not a bad thing. 

Melissa Crenshaw  17:07  
That's exactly why we want our kids to get the childhood diseases because it's building their immune systems. Dr. Thomas Cowan when wrote an article on Weston A price Foundation website, and he talks about this there. When we catch measles, he says in his article that it heralds a newer, stronger system and stronger kidneys. He attributes the rise in nephrotic syndrome today to the fact that we don't get measles anymore. We don't have measles. And then when we don't allow our children to run fevers, then our children's overall bodies and systems are not as strong because those fevers do a job in the body. I do not ever want to sound like it's our goal or our job to never get sick. I don't have anything to back this up, but I think children build their immune systems as they get sick. I'm not saying adults should never get sick, but if you're an adult who is getting sick very often, you likely have some work to do in your gut or your body. I think once a year, cold or flu or cough for something is appropriate. There could be different opinions out there, but if you're getting sick met several times a year, you might need to do some work in your terrain. I love what this other this German physician who was also a biologist said. He said, “If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to prove in the germs seek their natural habitat.  They see the diseased tissue rather than being the cause of the disease tissue.”  Mosquitoes, for instance, seek the stagnant water, but they didn't make the water stagnant. They go to the stagnant water.  Germs are looking for an environment that will host them. This other guy, Robert Koch, was a bacteriologist. This bacteriologist said the germ theory wasn't correct. Listen, this is so interesting to me. He said that if it was correct, it had to meet four requirements. I'm not going to talk about all four, you can google them. Basically, to make the germ theory valid, all these four things had to always be in place in every given situation. That's the scientific method. One of them said that a specific germ must be found in every case of the disease. For a start, tetanus. They used to find tetanus cases, and they couldn't find the bacteria that was supposed to cause it. It's got to be all for bacteria. It must be discovered apart from the disease. Some children and adults right now are walking around with strep or meningococcal in the back of your throats, but you're not sick. So the presence of the germ doesn't mean that you're going to get the disease. 

Bri Hurlburt  18:26  
So he's basically saying that if the germ theory were valid, you would have to have the disease AND the germ in your body in every case? And they found that in some tetanus cases, they have the disease, meaning the presentation of a sickness, without the bacteria? And the opposite way - you can be carrying the bacteria, but not be sick. Which we know is true.

Melissa Crenshaw  21:44  
That's right. The reason that I wanted to go through the germ theory versus the terrain theory is really for encouragement for you all. If you're not the healthiest, then get outside, go for a walk every day, get some fresh air, sunshine, eat better. We all can eat better. If you are quite healthy, be encouraged. You don't have to be worried about these things that are that are going around. Even if you are the healthiest person on the earth, you could get a virus or an illness. Homeopathy is the tool. It's not our Savior, but it is a beautiful tool that we get to use while we're here on this earth to help us get through these things. 

One more person I wanted to talk about is Florence Nightingale, who most people know. She said, “the specific disease doctrine is the grand refuge of weak, uncultured, unstable minds, such as now rule the medical profession. There are no specific disease.  There are specific disease conditions.” Before we get into remedies, one last thing I want to talk about is immunity. What is immunity? We keep hearing about total immunity or natural immunity, herd immunity, vaccine induced immunity. It's all based on the germ theory, which we know is questionable being that that Louis Pasteur used to fake and twist his findings, which there is evidence for. The idea of the germ theory is that you breathe in some kind of germ through your mouth or nose and that it goes into the body and causes a disease, which then gives you an immunity from that. They say that once you've had the disease, you won't get it again. The vaccine idea is that we try to copy the idea, but obviously we only give you a milder version of the whole germ. So again, one thing I always say - man cannot recreate what God made perfect in the beginning. We can't recreate the system that he made. We wouldn't give you the whole germ because we don't want you to get the disease, so we're just going to give you a weakened version. But by vaccinating you're actually injecting it into the body, so you're bypassing the natural route. You're sending the pathogen deeper into the body. It's like a surprise attack because you completely bypass the first primary immune response. The whole process is unnatural. I understand what they were trying to do in the beginning was to come up with this this way, but if we had left it alone, we all would be healthier. I believe we'd be a much healthier world right now. 

Bri Hurlburt  25:06  
To that end, I personally think, when they were created, vaccinations were a good intention. 

Melissa Crenshaw  25:18  
I agree. 

Bri Hurlburt  25:19  
If you think about, how can we get the most people to get this in a way that's not as threatening so they don't get it worse? I don't believe it was created maliciously, but when you do look at it and the way it is introduced the body, it's not natural. So I don't believe it's the best way to protect yourself from things. 

Melissa Crenshaw  25:44  
I agree. 100%. The the guy who came up with inoculation came up with inoculation first, and from that was born vaccinations. So yes, he wanted to save people. He wanted to save children. 

Bri Hurlburt  26:02  
This was all based on the germ theory meaning, you are protecting us from the germ, not addressing the health of the people getting it, necessarily.

Melissa Crenshaw  26:19  
After years of doing this, he saw that more people were dying. He tried to tell the medical community that this is not good. He sent several papers. He tried to tell them that this is not doing what he thought it would do, we need to stop this, and they would not listen. So, it became about something that it wasn't originally intended to be. 

Bri Hurlburt  26:45  
I think this goes into this paragraph we have about health being the only true immunity. I thought that was interesting when I was reading over this information. 

Melissa Crenshaw  26:59  
Yeah, true health is the only immunity because over the centuries, every time we addressed all the issues, like better housing and all that, making it a healthier situation for our environment outside and within our internal environment, the less disease we had. Little House on the Prairie is one of my favorite shows to watch, and it always cracks me up the stuff that they used to do. In one episode in particular, the parents were out of town and this guy came to stay with the girls and they were eating. After they finished dinner, he set his plate down on the ground for the dog to finish licking up. Then he took his plate, dipped it into some container of water that had been sitting there, wiped it off, and put it up on the counter. That was clean. I know Ma would have done more than that, but they didn't have fresh running water all the time like we do. They didn't take baths and showers. There was an environmental cleanliness that increased that actually eradicated these diseases. 

Bri Hurlburt  28:42  
Do you know what is so interesting though, too? That "not really clean" thing can be a good thing. You know how they always talk about in history, we end up swinging the pendulum so far the other way? You don't want to be the person who always has your dog lick off the plate, gives it a quick rinse, and puts it up there back on the shelf, but then we swung so far now to kill every germ. We're seeing that trying to be so environmentally sterile is not healthy. And, as we have now, if you've looked at the history of all of these vaccines, the more vaccines are introduced, honestly, my generation and the next one are more unhealthy long term than I think anybody before us. 

Melissa Crenshaw  29:37  
Our nation is not getting healthier. 

Bri Hurlburt  29:40  
No. At least in America. It's interesting that we see a lot of these things go away as we learned a lot about health and we learned a lot about cleanliness, and now we went so far this way that I don't believe, as a whole, our inner environment is healthy anymore. Now we're so sterile that it's like there's nothing to ever be exposed to to give us an immune system that functions properly. 

Melissa Crenshaw  30:10  
Now we're trying to get dirty, we're trying to eat more dirt and get dirty and be outside barefoot. So let's talk about some remedies that you can be ready with if this really does make a grand re-entrance.

Bri Hurlburt  30:27  
Now, okay, before you get into this, I know you're going to talk about it, but I'm curious your perspective on this prophylactic use, in general, with disease and using homeopathy instead of vaccination. I know homeoprophylaxis is becoming more well known and more widespread. We talk about this some in your courses, but what do you think about that? And then go ahead into the remedies.

Melissa Crenshaw  30:54  
Yeah, thank you. I do not agree with total homeoprophylaxis - to try to replace vaccines with homeopathy. I think it brings confusion and more stress than mamas need. I was taught by Robin Murphy to treat whatever comes up, and that's generally what I do. I did start the Thuja protocol, which you can find on my viruses guide, last year because we got the flu three Februarys in a row. This was before COVID. I was like, "That's it, I'm gonna do the Thuja protocol and see if we can not get the flu next year." And we didn't. We did that Thuja protocol that next fall, and we did not get get the flu this year and haven't been sick at all. So generally speaking, no, I don't believe in replacing the traditional vaccine schedule with homeoprophylaxis. If you want to do it, fine. Do it. I just I don't think that's necessary. I keep things I keep things as simple as I possibly can. We can just treat what comes up. Focus more on your diet and exercise, getting outside, getting fresh air, sunlight, all those things, than trying to throw a bunch of remedies at things that you don't even have. 

Bri Hurlburt  31:18  
That's an area to use your discretion, your intuition, how the Holy Spirit leads you as a mother, and maybe what you feel. Maybe certain ones you want to do that for. But I would agree with you.

Melissa Crenshaw  32:52  
If you are doing that, right now don't see this as a condemnation or judgment. It's just not what I learned in school, it's not what I've ever done with my kids, and it's not what I plan to do.  

Bri Hurlburt  33:03  
I hear what you're saying - it's just not necessary, especially when they're not very dangerous diseases for the most part. 

Melissa Crenshaw  33:12  
For smallpox prevention, if you want to do prevention - and let me be clear, I will if it becomes an issue in our area. If a lot of cases start popping up in our area, then I am going to do prevention. That is Thuja 30c. Again, that protocol is in my viruses guide, so if you want to buy Thuja 30, do that and then look up the protocol in the guide. I want you to be able to order remedies and get ready. If you are exposed to smallpox, then it's Thuja 30c, then eight hours later Thuja 200c, then eight hours later Thuja 1M. This is a protocol that I actually grabbed from the book called Vaccine Free: Prevention and Treatment of Infectious Contagious Disease with Homeopathy, Second Edition, a Manual for Practitioners and Consumers by Kate Burch, RS, Hom(NA), CCH, CMT. I like this book, it's got a lot of great things in it. That protocol's from her. Then you repeat that, again, seven days later. She does not specifically say eight hours later in her book -she says three times and will end within that day, so that is every eight hours. If you are exposed and maybe you don't have those three different Thuja potencies, you could use Malandrinum 200c every other day, before or after exposure. I also got that from her book. Get the book to dig deeper and get a lot more details. Also, Variolinum 200c each day “modifies The progression of the disease and affects a rapid resolution to active smallpox.”

Bri Hurlburt  33:14  
These are remedies I've never heard of, so it would be hard to choose one. You don't necessarily need to order all three. Thuja is going to be probably more useful across the board and easier to find. Did you get all of them? Or what do you do? 

Melissa Crenshaw  36:19  
I always have Thuja, and I ordered Variolinum. You can get these remedies from Ainsworth. I don't know if the regular pharmacies have Malandrinum or Variolinum, but Ainsworth does. I'm having a lot of people who are contacting me asking what to do who are asking about the remedy Sarracenia because it was the genus epidemicus in the 1871 epidemic in Belgium. It was highly effective during that time. There were no deaths in the people who used it, but I'm not convinced that this is the way to go. Just because it was the genus epidemicuss an 1871 doesn't mean that it's going to be this time. I'm not sure where people are researching and I'm not saying that they're wrong, but I'm not confident sharing Sarracenia as THE remedy. Maybe you want to have it on hand and maybe you want to have all these. Just like when COVID was kind of unfolding, we had no idea where it was going to go or what was going to happen. We were just getting ready. 

Bri Hurlburt  38:26  
To some extent, we still don't have a ton of solid remedies for COVID. I know there are protocols, but they don't work across the board. A lot of Bannerji protocols, let's say, have a huge percentage of people they work for in other sicknesses. I don't think I've seen any protocols work like that yet for COVID. 

Melissa Crenshaw  38:47  
Right. It takes time to develop these things in homeopathy. When we can figure out the genus epidemicus, in history it's shown that those have worked beautifully. Our death rate with homeopathy has been way lower than with allopathy. You can read those statistics in my viruses guide also. So you might have Sarracenia on hand, but don't let it be the only thing that you have. There are other more common remedies that you likely already have in your kit that were used in the early 1900s, and I want to go through some of those. Remember to always look at how the condition is presenting -  Whatever is happening in your body, look at how it's presenting and then go read your repertory and your Materia Medica and figure out the remedies that match. If you don't have any idea what I'm saying right now or you don't know how to do that, I would highly encourage you to come take the Gateway series with me and Bri, and then take my mentorship program afterwards. You're going to get a firm foundation. Before I get into the the other, more common remedies that you likely already have in your kit, I want to say that if vaccination against smallpox becomes necessary/forced/whatever you want to call it, then I would suggest Ledum or Hypericum before vaccination and right after it, followed by your general remedy. If you're not working with a homeopath right now, you might not know what your general remedy is. A general remedy speaks to your constitution, your whole person. Then, if symptoms come from vaccination, then give the indicated remedy for whatever presents. If you get the vaccination and nothing happens, then just continue Ledum 30c a few times per day for a few days and go back to your general remedy that you're working with your homeopath with. You can use Ledum a week before and after. That's just some extra information for if you do get the vaccine. 

I'm looking at Dr. Murphy's repertory and if you have the meta repertory fourth edition, then Smallpox is on page 2419. That's one of the many pages that smallpox has mentioned, but this is where the rubric Smallpox is mentioned. The two biggest remedies are the ones that we just that I just said - Malandrinum and Variolinum. Your other remedies are Antimonium crudum, Antimonium tart, Arsenicum, Mercurius (which can be Merc viv or Merc sol), Rhus tox, and Sarracenia. Those remedies are your absolute biggest ones and you likely have most of those in your kit. 

Bri Hurlburt  42:42  
Dr. Birch was saying to use those for exposure, but if you're exposed and you don't know, it still doesn't sound like something to be too afraid of because a lot of the things you would use to treat it are in kits. Those are all very common remedies to have. 

Melissa Crenshaw  43:09  
I'm thinking you need to buy Malandrinum, Variolinum, and maybe the Sarracenia. 30c or 200c is an easy middle ground. I don't have any protocols for this stuff, so if you have 30 and 200 on hand and somebody gets sick, then you can do an acute consult with me and we can work through it together. If you're knowledgeable about homeopathy, you can do it on your own. In Murphy's repertory, there are sub rubrics. If you look at the sub rubrics, that means that other symptoms that come along with the smallpox, we've got burning - any kind of burning sensation is Rhus tox, and Rhus tox is one of the big main remedies for smallpox. Let's see... collapse. Arsenicum always has a great deal of collapse. If you have diarrhea with it, Arsenicum also is a great one. He also mentions China as a bigger remedy for diarrhea with smallpox. So maybe you want to add China to your list. We usually use China in a 6c, but you can even get a 30 or 200, that's fine too. Chronic effects of having smallpox, which sounds to me like lingering symptoms, is Variolinum again. 

Bri Hurlburt  44:54  
I just found an article about history in homeopathy with epidemics, and this doctor - he was an MD in Iowa - did homeoprophylaxis for smallpox. There were almost 3000 patients he treated with the nosode Variolinum. 547 were definitely exposed to smallpox in that 3000, but only 14 went on to develop the disease, so they said the protection rate was over 97%. I just thought that was interesting. So I see how that remedy, for prophylactic use, seems to be a really good option. I mean, I know they all are.

Melissa Crenshaw  45:39  
Yeah, so I'm so glad you brought that up. Because I should have said that Variolinum is the nosode from the smallpox pustule. Malandrinum is the nosode made from horse grease. 

Bri Hurlburt  45:52  
That is cool, too, because, like in poison ivy, some people use Rhus tox and it really aggravates it where Anacardium, which is similar, is more effective? Maybe in this case, as you would use Rhus tox to uproot or to almost treat poison ivy prophylactically, in a way, Variolinum would fit, and then maybe Malandrinum would be a better use for treating it if you do develop symptoms. That's just my not-a-professional brain proessing right now. 

Melissa Crenshaw  46:31  
Mhm. And depending on how it presents. I want to look at this Sarracenia to see what the materia medica says. It's from a plant, a pitcher plant, and it contains a very active proteolytic enzyme. Okay, so back to the repertory with remedies with fever. When you have smallpox with fever, then you're looking at the regular fever remedies - Aconite, Belladonna, Baptisia and Veratrum viride. That is American white hellebore. It's not a common one, so that's why I went ahead and explained it. Your common ones are Aconite, Baptisia, and Belladonna. High fever with great weakness is Iodatum. Then, it goes on. Under smallpox in here, it says as a prophylactic, Malandrinum, Sarracenia, and Variolinum is the biggest one. Dr. Murphy says Variolinum is the biggest one for prophylaxis. I think that's good. I think you have maybe a few remedies to order if you want to be ready, and the rest you should have in your kit. If you don't have a kit, then you're going to want to order some of these other ones that we've discussed, too. 

Bri Hurlburt  48:03  
We can revisit this if it comes back. Either way, I think if you are a little bit nervous, don't make decisions out of fear. You have some action steps you can take, and it's not gonna hurt to have these on hand so you can feel prepared. Don't panic. 

Melissa Crenshaw  48:38  
Smallpox has, for a long time, been talked about as a bio weapon, so we probably should have been prepared with these remedies anyway. They've been talking about this since, I don't know, the 80s. It's been talked about for a long time, which is probably why there are vials of it around, but I don't know enough about the politics side to get into that. But yes, even if nothing comes of this, these remedies never expire so you'll be ready no matter what happens in the future. Maybe it's your children or your grandchildren that need to be ready, but we're prepared. I do believe the Lord calls us to be prepared, but not in fear, so that's where we stand. Thank you. See you all next time.