Bri Hurlburt 0:04
Welcome back to Homeopathy at Home with Melissa again. Hey, Melissa.
Melissa Crenshaw 0:10
Hello. We’re back again.
Bri Hurlburt 0:13
Today, before we start, before I do another little intro, I wanted to read a review. This one's from August of last year and just a short little, sweet “Melissa, I came across your podcast recently and your positive attitude gives real boost and motivates me to try homeopathic medicine. Thank you. Padma,” I think is how you say that name. I'm sorry if I got that wrong.
Melissa Crenshaw 0:40
How sweet. Thank you. Padma. Thank you so much.
Bri Hurlburt 0:44
It's true. I feel like that's a good encouragement because we always say that we don't need … I don't know, we're not trying to get everybody to be a professional or perfect at it before you try, but just try it.
Melissa Crenshaw 0:58
Yeah, that's right.
Bri Hurlburt 1:00
Just use what you have and try something.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:02
That's right. Just try it. Don't get in analysis paralysis. Just do it. You're not going to kill anybody with homeopathy.
Bri Hurlburt 1:11
Yeah, that's the tagline. We're gonna add that to things. You won’t kill anybody with homeopathy. But true. Truly, it's so safe to just try. Thank you for your reviews and please keep leaving them. That's how people see the podcasts. I check reviews on pretty much everything these days, I think most people do, so leave them so people know what to expect.
Today's episode. It’s not really a follow up but we ended the last episode mentioning that we were going to talk about ADHD. It's going to be longer than normal. There's a lot of stuff to cover, a lot of details, but I think it's really good information. We're going to dive into ADHD.
Melissa Crenshaw 2:01
My meat stock has finally cooled off from two weeks ago when I first started drinking it.
Bri Hurlburt 2:05
Wow.
Melissa Crenshaw 2:09
Now I can drink it. And now it's time for me to talk. I'm trying to hurry up and drink it.
Bri Hurlburt 2:15
Well, in your defense, you've been doing a lot of talking today. I mean, class. We had class earlier. You had class this morning.
Melissa Crenshaw 2:26
Friends, right now it's 8:30 and I've been up since 4:30. Talking.
Bri Hurlburt 2:34
And you're still happy, in a good mood.
Melissa Crenshaw 2:37
Yeah. What else is there? We have Jesus.
Bri Hurlburt 2:40
Yeah.
Melissa Crenshaw 2:42
Okay.
Bri Hurlburt 2:43
Let's go.
Melissa Crenshaw 2:44
ADHD. This is going to be a little bit longer than last week. What we wanted to talk about, because ADHD is a developmental problem. And it is usually noticed at home. For those of you that are listening to this, you usually notice it at home before professionals notice it, but sometimes, if your kids are in school, then your teachers might notice it first, but usually you already know that there's a challenging behavior early on. Often parents will pick up on this one's different than the other ones or even if it's your first one, this one … you're asking other parents and people in your life like, I mean, he never stops, right? Because they're go, go, go go. And they're like, full speed and they're so full of just personality.
Bri Hurlburt 3:55
Yeah, so really, I will just put it out there. I'm probably going to ask a lot of personal questions this week, because I have a four year old son, four and a half almost, who I look at the words I've used to describe him since he was a 10 month old and I'm like, I just recently started thinking, I think he might have ADHD, and I don't love all the labels I can get. But also I need to be okay with who he is aAnd I want to help him. I think of the word intense and I kept, as I was looking over this, that intensity and the high energy and all of those things. They're not flaws. They're not bad things. But there are things we can do to help them so they can succeed in things because it can get in the way when they don't have the tools yet. They're so young and it's hard to focus, to develop things when they're struggling in that way.
Melissa Crenshaw 4:59
When I worked in the childcare centers 20 years ago, it was rare. It was rare to see ADHD, but when I did I remember those little four year olds being put on medicine and it was so sad to see the personality change.
Bri Hurlburt 5:19
Yes. And half the time, it might be fairly normal four year old behavior is probably very similar to ADHD behavior, so don't jump to it. If we're going to talk about this, and you're like, “Oh my word, my preschooler’s all of these.” Well, of course, therefore, and I have to temper myself to that. He's a four year old boy so putting him on medication for that is sad. I agree.
Melissa Crenshaw 5:49
Mm-hmm.
Let's just quickly go through the main symptoms in a child suffering from ADHD. They find it very hard to focus and concentrate. They can't sit still long enough to learn their letters or to learn their colors. To learn to write a letter. They can't hold their train of thought long enough. They're unfocused. Easily bored. As a consequence, they do very poorly in school. It's not because they're not smart or that they're not clever enough. It's really just that their focus is so lacking that they can't. They can't sit long enough to actually learn and retain the information. Often, this is part of the processing deficit.
The attention span is a major problem for these children. Often it’s the first thing that brings the problem … uh-oh. It says my internet's unstable, let me know if I get too choppy. Even eating a meal. They might not even be able to sit still to eat a meal. They might need to be up and moving around while they eat. Come back and take … they might be snackers because they don’t want to just sit down, or sit long enough to eat a meal. They might be impulsive, fearless. Fearless boys who … what's odd, or not odd … What's different is they often are full of fears, they have lots of fears, but they're so impulsive that they're physically fearless. They jump off of couches, and they just …
Bri Hurlburt 7:57
And I swear. You are seriously … this … all I'm thinking about is Summit. He doesn't even think about it and I'm starting to feel … like I really want to help him because to people who are not hyper aware of him and who he is, this looks like he is a naughty kid. It looks like he's just destructive and can't control himself and he jumps off stuff. He gets in trouble because he can't sit still at the table. I mean, we don't do that, my husband and I. I tried all the things like those different chairs they can sit in and he just can't … he just sits on my lap and his knees and his elbows are like digging into me because the kid cannot sit still. And I'm like, it's fine. It's fine. I'm just gonna snuggle whatever bony part of you, but that fearless element is … they just do it and realize later.
Melissa Crenshaw 8:53
Right, without thinking about the consequences. They don't think far enough ahead …
Bri Hurlburt 8:59
It’s that processing
Melissa Crenshaw 9:00
… to think about if I jump off of this couch that I could land on my face, or whatever. If I drop off of these monkey bars, way up high, that I might not just land on my feet. They don't think ahead. They just do it. This is, like you said, a processing disorder. They don't seem to know what's going to happen. That A will lead to B and the release of adrenaline can be calming for these children.
Bri Hurlburt 9:37
Great. That’s terrifying.
Melissa Crenshaw 9:43
So they might get on a bike and go down a big hill.
Bri Hurlburt 9:46
My life is making sense. Literally, like all of this is making sense to me now. I'm not alone.
Melissa Crenshaw 9:58
This is reckless behavior and they just … they climb, they run. They look like they have no fear, but they really do. There are some fears in there. They look like danger seekers and adrenaline junkies. They're hyperactive.
Hyperactivity can look different in different kids. There's a physical restlessness. They can't sit still. They get up and wander around. They look out the windows. Rock in their seat. Fidget. Make noises. It might be a small or a big restlessness. They might be noisy, laughing, singing, whistling. They have to be doing something with some part of their body. They play exciting or violent computer games and those games can seem to calm them down.
Bri Hurlburt 11:07
So Summit doesn't like games, but I think of him … it’s amazing. He can veg. He can be like a couch potato, if he's watching one of his really great shows he's into because I think it is giving him that, which we know TV does, even if it's not intense for a young child. This is amazing, you guys. Maybe I should have known this stuff already, but this is blowing my mind.
Melissa Crenshaw 11:36
They can be destructive and it's not deliberate. This is not a deliberate, “I want to destroy these things or myself.” They're just so boisterous. So active. So restless. They break stuff. They're like a bull in a china shop. What? Oh, my goodness. My precious puppy. He's not in here. The German shepherd. What I say is he loves so big. He is just like, “Whoa.” He’s just everywhere and like all over and he has no sense of personal space. He's in your face. He just jumps on you like he has no …
Bri Hurlburt 12:19
Like no idea what is happening to everyone else because, yeah … Sweet little pup.
Melissa Crenshaw 12:26
He’s so fun but he's big and it hurts. And he's destructive. And I don't mean to compare my puppy to any child but this is … There sometimes can be deliberate destructiveness. Sometimes they can break things and tear things and destroy things because it helps them to feel better. They like to rip things or cut things with scissors and smash things.
Bri Hurlburt 12:55
Smash things?
Melissa Crenshaw 12:57
Yeah. Set things on fire. Has he?
Bri Hurlburt 13:03
Oh, yeah, all the time.
Melissa Crenshaw 13:05
There can be violence. Not all ADHD children are violent, but if they are then it can be to varying degrees. They might just hit their mom when they're overwhelmed or they could be violent or cruel towards animals or classmates or friends. They might be actively aggressive but they don't always have to be. Again, that's a thing that may or may not be there.
Defiance. Oppositional defiance disorder. They just have no fear of authority and they will not do what they're told. This is not just their parents. This goes on into life, into teachers. It's a constant battle to get them to do what they're supposed to do. Get dressed, brush their teeth, eat … whatever the things are that you have to do before you get out the door. There's just no fear or respect for authority. Often these children have been difficult from early on with their parents, and their parents have never been able to instigate proper boundaries for them.
Man, I love boundaries. That's really something the Lord's been walking me through in the last, I don't know, six months or so. Boundaries. We need to set boundaries for ourselves and we need to teach our children how to set boundaries. This is not a lecture on if you teach your children boundaries they’re not going to have ADHD. I'm just saying … that’s just like a side note. The lack of boundaries in these children is not due to your terrible parenting skills. They literally can't. They literally can't do it.
They have low self esteem. Usually because of their behaviors, they've gotten in trouble. They get in trouble. They get in trouble. They get in trouble. They get in trouble. Then they start to feel like they can't do anything right.
Bri Hurlburt 15:32
I know. It's so sad. And it’s hard being an adult. Honestly, I see both sides. It is hard because it's so frustrating and so difficult. And it's hard to remember that sometimes they really just can't. And I also don't want to make him feel that way.
Melissa Crenshaw 15:52
There's such this line that's so hard as a parent, because you want to teach your children well. We want them to respect authority and to grow up. We want them to ask good questions. We don't want them to lay down, just do whatever authority tells them to do, but we also want them to respect authority and do it right. We don't want our children being destructive, so we're trying to teach them, “No, that's not okay,” but then also there's this aspect of what do people think of me right now? They think I'm a terrible parent.
Bri Hurlburt 16:35
Or what do they think of him?
Melissa Crenshaw 16:38
Or do they hate my child? That’s even worse.
Bri Hurlburt 16:43
I know, and I feel bad, even for Summit, because you can tell, when he's been really intense in a situation or he gets really physically assertive, even if it's not aggressive, he used to be more of that as a toddler, but the other kids are like, almost like they're traumatized by their experience with him. When he really is trying to be sweet, but he is so much, that they're instantly …
Melissa Crenshaw 17:11
He loves so big.
Bri Hurlburt 17:14
Yeah. So it is hard to think … I want him to behave this way because I'm like, “Buddy, I want you to be able to accurately portray who you are to these people who don't know you like I do.” And I'm sure that just carries on as they get older where they don't know how to do that, or they're not capable of, socially, like controlling themselves.
Melissa Crenshaw 17:42
It’s so hard. It's so hard. And homeopathy can help so much. And I've seen it. I see it all the time.
Bri Hurlburt 17:49
This is so encouraging. I’m already relieved just thinking that there's a way I can help him that's not like covering him up or taking away his personality.
Melissa Crenshaw 18:02
Right. Yes. Homeopathy will help stimulate his immune system, those neurological pathways, whatever else is going on, to help him line up to be more stable rather than changing. We're never … homeopathy is not changing people's personalities. It's bringing homeostasis.
These kids can have low self esteem, I already said that, because they get in trouble so often. Some people might say things to them, like they're stupid or they're bad. That's really sad. Then they fall behind academically. They're in school and they're not doing as well as their peers, then that makes them feel like they're not as good. Like they're stupid and they're just not able to do the work.
And then socially. They look like just the naughty kid in class. Then the other kids laugh at them, not at them, but laugh because it's funny or laugh at them because of maybe other reasons, then the teacher is mad or the authority is mad because now the whole thing's disrupted. They don't get invited to parties anymore because they might be destructive. The self esteem can really hit rock bottom.
Those are some of the ADHD, what it might look like in some children, and there's lots of things that we can do for them outside of homeopathy. What we have said before, we don't think that homeopathy is the only way. It's a great tool. There are behavioral things you as a parent need to learn how to help your children, so get help with that.
Some of the things that are believed to cause ADHD … Of course, nobody knows 100%, but there are some things like food dyes. You can see it. You can see when they get a hold of a food with food dye, and especially red or blue, they go off the wall. That hyperactivity is out of control. Coffee can cause this. Video games can cause this. Mamas, I'm telling you from experience, and it's hard. It's hard in today's world because even if you say no to video games right now, or if you try to limit them, there's something about these video games, these boys easily become addicted. I mean, it's as easy as pie for them to become addicted.
Bri Hurlburt 21:26
If that's a place where they look calm, right? Or they might feel calm. Like what I said before, it's giving them that adrenal rush, that they feel calm in that minute, or that little bit, and that might be the only relief. I've been there where I'm like, man, I know he will go chill out in front of the TV for an hour. And sometimes I want to do that because I am nonstop. But we all know what happens when that's over. They still have that adrenaline and then they have nothing to do with it. Except go nuts.
Melissa Crenshaw 22:09
They probably need to move their bodies.
Bri Hurlburt 22:11
For sure. Yes.
Melissa Crenshaw 22:12
Right? And then you're the mom, you're like, “Huh!” You know, you've been trying to do it all day, every day. You've got these other kids and you got to cook dinner and laundry. And, man, that's a hard, hard place to be. But just generally speaking, video games are so highly addictive to these boys and as they get older and all their friends are playing video games and they're the only ones that aren't. Let's see if I can fix my glare. I don't think I can.
Bri Hurlburt 22:43
You're not bad on my end.
Melissa Crenshaw 22:45
It's okay. Well, I'm-
Bri Hurlburt 22:51
You look like an angel.
Melissa Crenshaw 22:54
So, be careful with that.
5g. We don't know yet what part that plays in damaging the neurological system, but it's highly thought to. Vaccines and diet. Some diet recommendations, you can take off any food that is adrenally stimulating. Those are tea, coffee, Coke, Redbull, chocolate, cheese.
Bri Hurlburt 23:35
I found it kind of interesting. Hard cheese. It said really hard cheese is adrenal stimulating, but like a softer cheese might be better.
Melissa Crenshaw 23:43
That’s right.
Bri Hurlburt 23:44
So interesting. I've never heard that.
Melissa Crenshaw 23:51
If you can spread it, it’s a soft cheese. If you have to cut it or grate it to get any, then it's a hard cheese and you want to limit or eliminate those. Oranges and orange juice. Let's see. What does that say? Other fruit juices? Oh, okay, sorry. Oranges and orange juice do impact the adrenals. Other fruit juices don't is what my notes here say. Apparently small oranges like clementines don't have the same effect as oranges.
And they need lots of essential fatty acids. These kids tend to be deficient in essential fatty acids. They usually don't eat nuts, avocados, and fish. If you're a vegetarian or vegan, then hemp seeds, hemp seed oil or flaxseed oil is good. If not, then add in fish oil. And then there's that whole thing fermented or not? That's really a dilemma like, what do you do? And I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.
Bri Hurlburt 25:07
You might have to do that work on your own. We don't know that.
Melissa Crenshaw 25:12
You can drizzle hemp seed oil over pizza or pasta, mix it into smoothies. One tablespoon of hemp or flax oil every day can be helpful.
Alright, so let's talk about remedies.
Bri Hurlburt 25:25
Let's do it.
Melissa Crenshaw 25:27
Okay, so the first one is Tuberculinum. It's a nosode. That means you can't just order it from any pharmacy. The nosodes you can get from the pharmacies overseas. If you have access to OHM, then OHM has it, OHM Pharmacy in Texas, but not everybody has access to that. If you want access to it, take one of my classes, Gateway I and Gateway II class, then you get access to that pharmacy and then you can get Tuberculinum in the United States. Otherwise, you'll order from overseas.
Tuberculinum is one of the most frequently indicated remedies for children with ADHD. It looks to be number one for ADHD children. They like motion and movement. They are only quiet when they're out, like riding in a car maybe or being pushed in their stroller, or if they're being rocked. So we’re talking about really young. These babies like to be vigorously rocked. They like the strong motion.
Bri Hurlburt 26:42
Yeah, this all my life. Summit used to only sleep in that swing, going at like the highest setting was how I could get him to fall asleep.
Melissa Crenshaw 26:51
Yeah. The only way to get them to sleep is to put them in their car seat and drive around the block. Or remember the old washing machines that used to really go. We used to put the car seat on top of the washing machine and turn the washing machine on. We’re talking about really old washing machines.
Bri Hurlburt 27:13
I remember though.
Melissa Crenshaw 27:16
As they wean from the breast, they don't tolerate dairy well. People who need Tuberculinum often have lactose or dairy intolerance. Most of the dairy herds carry TB, Tuberculosis. Tuberculinum is the nodose made from tuberculosis pustule, the sputum of a person with tuberculosis.
Let's see. They have lots of digestive issues early on from milk. They're having a lot of trouble with milk early on. Teeth grinding. Babies who headbang. Very, very often Tuberculinum will stop headbanging with just a few doses, maybe even just one dose of Tuberculinum 200. Towards the age of two, the temper tantrums start and they don't stop. They continue through three, four and they carry on. These kids start they're terrible twos, so to speak, where there's temper tantrums, and they keep going. They worry that they're going to injure themselves. They scream, kick, hit, cry, roll around on the ground. They have high tempers. Being told no is a trigger. They're not going to be told no. And they'll go into a total meltdown tantrum, out of control tantrum. They might hit, bite their parents or their siblings. These kids are biting. They might swear. It might start with simple swear words, you know like poo poo head or something, and then it gets to be more fruity language.
Bri Hurlburt 29:29
That's a nice name for it.
Melissa Crenshaw 29:32
They're easily bored. Highly imaginative. Oftentimes, their first words are “shoes on” because they want to go outside. They are dying to go outside. They love to go out and explore the world. Often they're very, very irritable right when they wake up. They don't like to be woken up. They don't like to be spoken to in the morning. They're not good morning people. Even waking from an afternoon nap, they might be very angry or upset. They like their freedom. They don't like restrictions. They don't want to be strapped into that car seat. They like to have what they want when they want it and to have their choice. Reverse psychology works really well for the Tuberculinum child.
Bri Hurlburt 30:26
That is how I can get him to do almost anything.
Melissa Crenshaw 30:32
Back to my childcare days, I had the four-year-olds, and I had a room of 25 four-year-olds. As I learned and grew in how to deal with 25 children, because I used to flip the lights, I used to yell.
Bri Hurlburt 30:48
I would cry.
Melissa Crenshaw 30:51
None of that works. So what I finally learned is I literally would almost whisper. I would say, “Wow, James, look at you sitting so nicely. I really love that.” And I'm not kidding. They would run as fast as they could to their seats and wait because they wanted me to say it to them too. Not kidding. They were all over it. Miss Melissa was praising this one. What’s he doing? I want to do that. That reverse psychology.
Bri Hurlburt 31:18
Good to note, notice. I’m putting that one in there.
Melissa Crenshaw 31:26
The room would be chaotically loud and I would say, “Look at you. Thank you so much.”
Bri Hurlburt 31:34
It's almost like the louder you talk, the less they hear you.
Melissa Crenshaw 31:36
That's true. That's very true,
Bri Hurlburt 31:38
I'm gonna start whispering when I want to yell at my kids. I'm just going to whisper.
Melissa Crenshaw 31:41
Very true. Yes.
Bri Hurlburt 31:43
Okay.
Melissa Crenshaw 31:44
They’ll wonder. They want to lean in and listen. What is she talking about? She's whispering.
Bri Hurlburt 31:51
I'm going to try it. This might be magic. You might have just changed my life, for all my kids.
Melissa Crenshaw 31:57
Sometimes Tuberculinum and Medorrhinum are quite hard to differentiate. Medorrhinum is another nosode and we're going to talk about that one in a few minutes, but let's just say they're very, very similar to each other. We're going to talk about the differences here. Milk really tends to be the differentiating symptom. Milk is a big problem for Tuberculinum. The issue with Tuberculinum is milk. They can hate it or they can love it. Either way, the issue is milk and often they love it but it doesn't love them. They have trouble with it. They're very aggravated by milk. They like smoky flavors, like ham and bacon. Tuberculinum does a lot of head banging, teeth grinding, wetting the bed. This is the biggest remedy for children who wet the bed, Tuberculinum is. Often they have sweaty head at night. Their head in particular gets sweaty.
Just quickly to recap Tuberculinum. They have a desire for change and restlessness with it. They have big movements walking about the room, wanting to be out and about in the world. They’re intense, passionate. Temper tantrums. They feel everything with great intensity. They're very affectionate children. Big hugs. It's kind of rough. If they have younger siblings, they might be a little rough with them. They might have a big fear of dogs. They're really wild. Wilder than most of the other remedies. Tendency to catch colds easily and they're usually a bit chesty. Chesty coals. That's a lot about Tuberculinum. Medorrhinum is next. Tuberculinum, I would do … so you're going to choose. You're going to choose the potency based on the health of the child. The vitality of the child. You can just try. You might start with a 6C once a day. If you find a little bit of help with that, but not quite enough, then maybe you go to a 30C once a day or 30C once a week, or 30C every other day. These potencies and how often you give is just really something you're going to play with but start low and slow and work your way up.
Bri Hurlburt 35:01
Is that because you don't want to aggravate a symptom or because you just don't want to use a deeper potency than is necessary?
Melissa Crenshaw 35:09
The minimum dose.
Bri Hurlburt 35:10
Okay. A nosode. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Melissa Crenshaw 35:13
Yeah. We want to use just the least amount of medicine, the least amount that we need. Some homeopaths and some people who use homeopathy throw big potencies very frequently. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that, but then where do you go after that if that’s not working. You may have missed that level. And then some people have an optimal potency range. Some people really respond well in between these potencies and they don't do well up here and they don't do well down here, or something like that. You can find that by slowly working your way.
Bri Hurlburt 35:56
Okay.
Melissa Crenshaw 36:00
All right. I'm doing a lot of talking. Do you want to talk about Medorrhinum?
Bri Hurlburt 36:05
Sure, I can. So Medorrhinum, I noticed this, and this is in your notes, too. Medorrhinum and Tuberculinum can look very similar. There's a strong cross between them but there are some differences. I think some of these notes are to help differentiate between Medorrhinum and Tuberculinum now.
So Medorrhinum tends to be more impulsive than Tuberculinum. Tend to have more of that adrenaline junkie type of thing, which I can't imagine. It's very obvious that they need those adrenals to be hit all the time, so maybe cravings for those things that we were talking about earlier, like orange juice, or the stuff that feeds that adrenaline. More daredevilish, more reckless behavior. That's one of the rules of Medorrhinum.
They don't head bang or teeth grind. I think that's a good clarification because those are obvious behaviors you'll see. They're very restless, but smaller movements, so their leg or hand, doing that very fast movement. You know, like those people who sit there and like their leg just …
Melissa Crenshaw 37:24
Shake.
Bri Hurlburt 37:25
Yes. That's what I imagine. Or like rocking in a chair.
Melissa Crenshaw 37:33
That’s a biggie.
Bri Hurlburt 37:38
Summit sits at the table and he has a fork and he's going, bam, bam, bam, so I don't think that's probably the Medorrhinum picture. But I can picture this. It’s the small, irritated, restless movements. Irritates other people more than Tuberculinum. I thought that was kind of funny. These people can have a fear of animals, especially cats, where I think dogs was Tuberculinum, right?
Melissa Crenshaw 38:09
Right. Yeah. Yup.
Bri Hurlburt 38:12
They often have a love of animals, but that doesn't mean they won't be cruel to them. They might love animals but also do that cruel behavior toward an animal. A strong feature of a Medorrhinum person is a very gentle, nature loving, animal loving person that can be aggressive, or bully. Love to hit and be hit. Their play is often physical. Maybe enjoying wrestling or that horseplay with their dad, which that's hard to distinguish because my kids love that. But you might be able to tell when they don't know how far to go. They don't know the boundary. So that boundaries thing and that impulsivity. That matches that, too. This could be a spacey kid. That attention deficit without hyperactivity might be a Medorrhinum person. Dreamy, lost in their own world. What are you writing down?
Melissa Crenshaw 39:29
One of my kids names.
Bri Hurlburt 39:30
Yes. I know. I'm thinking of my other kid here. This is so funny. I don't want to label all my kids ADD. This doesn't necessarily mean either that your kid has ADHD to use one of these remedies. So keep that in mind.
Melissa Crenshaw 39:47
These are just keynotes of these remedies to address the symptoms. It doesn't have to have that label of ADHD. These are the symptoms. They match.
Bri Hurlburt 39:57
This could be helpful for them. These Medorrhinum people, or our kids, are daydreaming, absent minded, really forgetful. I love the term “butterfly mind” that you had there. Not really focusing or concentrating, but they look like they are. I think sometimes he'll look at me, but I know he's not listening to me. Or they leave all their stuff behind everywhere. Sometimes this reminds me of myself.
Melissa Crenshaw 40:37
The door to the fridge. I don't know, yours probably aren’t old enough to do that yet, but yeah. The kitchen cabinet doors are all open. Pull the milk out of the refrigerator and pour it in your glass and leave it on the counter and leaving the house.
Bri Hurlburt 40:51
It's like you have somebody in your house maybe. Or like their key. This is the big thing. Where you walk in, you set everything down somewhere different as you're walking in. You almost just leave a trail behind you and then you never can find anything.
This is an interesting point. Sometimes that spacey forgetfulness is because of snot. Literal snot. The miasm is an overproduction of mucus so they're really, really blocked up. You're good. You're back. And it said recording that whole time, so I think we're good.
Melissa Crenshaw 41:37
Okay, good. Yep, perfect.
Bri Hurlburt 41:41
You can hear these people before you see them because they're noisy breathers. Like their mouth. They might read with your mouth open. It said in these notes that they just look like they're not intelligent when they’re sitting there, spaced out, maybe breathing that way, but it's really just because you're all plugged up. Because of that, all of that plugged up, they are that spacy, dreamy, dopey effect.
Melissa Crenshaw 42:17
Let me just add, Medorrhinum has an overproduction of mucus. That’s a big keynote of Medorrhinum in general. It just has lots of mucus.
Bri Hurlburt 42:30
That is good to note. Okay, Medorrhinum people, they might be hurried. Do everything really quickly or do a bunch of things at one time, but they can be good multitaskers.
Melissa Crenshaw 42:44
Hmm, interesting.
Bri Hurlburt 42:45
I thought that was interesting, too.
What? Do you think you need Medorrhinum? Because that matches my life pretty well.
As teenagers, these people might be more at risk of drug taking just to have that experience. They want all of the experiences. They might have really wild behavior to try everything once. That reminds me of skydiving, going on the trips, maybe dropping your responsibilities to just go do all of these fun things. Which is that impulsivity, I think, where you don't think about consequence because you just are wanting to have fun. They can be really inquisitive. Might find it hard to learn to share, which is really common, but maybe in the bigger picture if that fits. In their hurry to do stuff, they’ve gone from doing thing to thing to thing, right?
Okay, maybe you can help me clarify this part.
Melissa Crenshaw 44:15
This part about children cross-crawling?
Bri Hurlburt 44:17
Yeah, that kind of thing.
Melissa Crenshaw 44:23
The way babies crawl, you can tell a lot by the way they crawl. It should be like our right arm, left leg, left arm, right leg. So it's this, you know, like we crawl.
Bri Hurlburt 44:44
Yeah. Cross-crawl.
Melissa Crenshaw 44:46
Yeah, that's cross-crawl. Some babies do the army crawl where they just pull themselves along. Some babies will be up on their toes, using their arms but up on their toes, not their knees. You really should pay attention to how your baby is crawling. That can tell you a lot about maybe some of their structural issues, but also remedies. We can look at remedies. And hips. When there's hip misalignment … sometimes they might just need a chiropractor. When there's hip misalignment, that can cause them to crawl different ways, and that in itself can cause behavior issues.
Bri Hurlburt 45:38
I've heard a lot recently about the really huge importance in crawling and crawling properly and development. All kinds of development, like your mental, the way your brain works, the two sides of your brain or something working together. So that's good. That might be a really good keynote for you to keep in mind for your young kids when you're considering which remedy.
This child tends to like fruity things. A Tuberculinum might go for ice cream and Medorrhinum might go for a popsicle. Maybe that's that difference in milk or just the fruit. They want the popsicle, the fruity thing. They like ice and orange juice. They're scared of the dark or they're scared something's going to run up behind them. Oh my word, I remember this with my sisters running up the stairs and being like, I'm gonna go so fast because they're chasing me. Like that terror.
Melissa Crenshaw 46:46
Yeah. Yeah.
Bri Hurlburt 46:49
It’s the worst.. They might be afraid of under their bed or things that aren't visible. A Medorrhinum child is scared of things, maybe you're scared of some things hidden from you or behind you or under you. Maybe afraid of sharks in the ocean because you can't see them. Or their feet sticking out of the blanket. These are so funny. Things coming up from the toilet. This is a legitimate fear of mine, especially living in Florida. There are critters. I'm waiting for the day there's a snake in my toilet.
Melissa Crenshaw 47:29
So funny. When we make the bed up, Paul likes his side, at the foot, the sheets tucked in. And I can't. As soon as we make the bed up, he's trying to tuck my sheets and I'm like, “Stop it.” I need my sheets to be out so that I can have my feet out. I need my feet out.
Bri Hurlburt 47:47
You sleep with them out of the blanket?
Melissa Crenshaw 47:48
Yes.
Bri Hurlburt 47:50
Oh, no, no, no. Mine has to be all tucked up in there. Uh-uh. That is so funny. Kyle's like you, though. I'll make the bed like extra tight and first thing he'll do is pull them all out.
Melissa Crenshaw 48:02
Yep.
Bri Hurlburt 48:03
It drives me crazy. That's so funny. So you're not that Medorrhinum feet person apparently. They might be scared of things with masks. Especially little kids, you can tell this stuff. If somebody comes in with a mask on or like a clown, something they don't know, they don't recognize. They may sleep in a knee to chest position, almost like they're praying. I know this. Their head’s down and their little butt’s up in the air. Maybe their palms are flat on the floor. Medorrhinum kids tend to be nail biters. As kids they’ll bite their toenails. I mean, this is totally Summit. Maybe so like, bite, bite, bite till they're really low. As babies, they tend to be really prone to diaper rash. Is that because of maybe that gut kind of link here or is that just a random keynote? Do you know?
Melissa Crenshaw 49:09
I don't know. I don’t know if adrenals have anything to do with that? I'm not sure.
Bri Hurlburt 49:19
Yeah, I mean, I know with some of these that just happens to be a common thing.
I love this. Quickly, I’ll do some top keynotes, because I know that was a lot to keep in mind for Medorrhinum. They have that spacey, dreamy mentality. Lost in the clouds. Love animals, and possibly still cruel to them. They're wild and want to experience everything and learn through their experience. There's that overproduction of mucus. Possible dyslexia or dyspraxia. I think I forgot to mention that earlier so that could be a really big one, which could go with that delayed development, too. The cross-crawling.
Melissa Crenshaw 50:08
No, there’s no cross-crawling.
Bri Hurlburt 50:09
Right. If they don't cross-crawl, that’s Medorrhinum. It says as part of the hurriness, they want to just skip over. They don't want to figure it out. They’re just getting out of there. That knee-chest position to sleep. The nail biting. The love for orange juice and fruits. Fear of dark and the things behind them or beneath them. That sore, bright red bottom, maybe for a baby or a young child.
Melissa Crenshaw 50:40
Awesome. So that's Medorrhinum. We just have two more and the next two are not as long as Medorrhinum and Tuberculinum. Those are big remedies. Thank you so much for going through that one. I'm sure that people love to hear a different voice and different, yeah.
Bri Hurlburt 51:01
Actually, a lot of our comments back are how great it is to listen to you, so I don’t know. I enjoy your voice. I think everybody does.
Melissa Crenshaw 51:13
I just don’t ever want this to be boring.
We have two more remedies left and they're not as big. Tarentula. It’s not tarantula, it’s Tarentula. My son's texting me as I'm trying to … Okay. It's from the tarantula spider. It is. But it's spelled Tarentula. This is incredibly active. They seem to have bottomless store of energy. Walking, running, dancing, spinning around, like the Energizer Bunny. I used to call Grace the Energizer Bunny, because she could take a little cat nap, and she'd be good for a long time. And she still does that. She just takes little naps.
Bri Hurlburt 52:12
That’s so funny.
Melissa Crenshaw 52:12
Then she’d go and go and go. And she just goes and goes and goes. Have really high energy. Always on the move. Always doing something with hands or legs. Hands and arms are often very mobile and busy. So you think about your drummers. A lot of drummers and musicians tend to be Tarentula. They can jump four to five feet. They like to jump. They're very active. Rarely sit still. Always on the go. Rarely feel tired. Some of you are out there like I need some of that because you're fatigued.
Bri Hurlburt 52:56
I know. Can I take this to be a little bit like that?
Melissa Crenshaw 53:01
Rhythmic movements. Tarentula loves music, loves to move their hands, and, like I said, it’s a great remedy for drummers. They like attention. They like to do things to get attention. So your musicians. They're up on a stage, and they're very active up there and they like that attention. They like to look threatening or to be threatening. They like freedom. They don't like to look like everyone else. They'd like to be different in some ways from the rest of the society. They'd like to please themselves with how they look. And they're very creative. They don't want to have your restrictions imposed on them. Both Tarentula and Tuberculinum will compete for youngest baby to escape seat belt. What?
Bri Hurlburt 54:07
I totally get it. Like they want to just … they don't want to be held back and they're gonna be really sneaky and find a way out there.
Melissa Crenshaw 54:17
Both of them. Yup. Tarentula and Tuberculinum. They don't want to be restricted. They are very clever. They're gonna find a way out. They have threatening behavior. Sometimes there's overt violence, subtle threats, desire to slightly intimidate or slightly threaten, not always verbal, not always overt. Sometimes you can feel it. They're very busy. Big movements. Inability to really focus. They’re artistic so they tend to be different and they like to do things that people say they can't do. So they can be groundbreaking in music and art. So these are, you know, like think of Jimi Hendrix. These are these amazing artists. They are unlikely to be found stuck in a nine to five job. They're not going to do it. They're either self employed or they're in a field that gives them a lot of freedom or a field that slightly off beat and quite creative. Can be manipulative and clever.
“Typical Tarentula behavior in a child might be to creep out of their hiding place and create mischief when no one is looking and then when someone looks to retreat and hide, while keeping a furtive eye on the effect that they are producing.” That's in quotes, that's a part of my notes, but what they're doing, like the tarantula spider, they're hiding, they're waiting for their chance, and they come out a little bit.
Bri Hurlburt 56:24
They mess up some stuff and then they're like, “Oh, let me go back in here and watch you all deal with this.”
Melissa Crenshaw 56:32
They want attention. And attention for being bad. Naughty is just as good as attention for being good. They're okay with that. They find it easier to be naughty than they do to be good. And they just want to be free. They want the freedom to dress how they want to dress. So, maybe teenagers. I mean, it could even be little kids, right? It could be the little boy who wants to wear football-
Bri Hurlburt 57:03
Oh yeah. Summit can be like that.
Melissa Crenshaw 57:06
In the wintertime, I mean,
Bri Hurlburt 57:07
Yup, he doesn't want to wear shoes.. He has different times where this outfit will be what he is wearing. He doesn't care what it looks like or that it's dirty or what I want him to wear. He’s going to wear that thing.
Melissa Crenshaw 57:23
They like to dance. They like rhythm. They love music. They hit themselves in the head.
So just to recap Tarentula, they have lots and lots and lots of energy. The main feature of this remedy is jumping. They jump. Any kind of energetic movements. They're rhythmic: dancing, drumming, weaving, horse riding. So weaving, crochet, knitting, you know, they have that rhythmic movement. They just want freedom. They're like little Houdinis. They will get out of that car seat. They will escape. Remember that little swing, that thing you're trying to walk them in. They cannot be contained. And back to my puppy, my German Shepherd. We locked him in his crate. We came home and he was out and the crate was still locked and closed. I'm not kidding. We were like, did you squeeze through the bars? Like what just happened here?
Bri Hurlburt 58:34
He's like, I'm going to go lock that back up. He's a German Shepherd. He's smart. He probably thought I'm gonna go. That is bizarre.
Melissa Crenshaw 58:41
It was crazy. So it's like he maybe squeezed through … anyway, he was like little Houdini. He’s not going to be contained.
Creative and artistic: music, painting, art, creating. Threatening behavior. It doesn't have to be overt violence. It can be like a more mild, subtle, underlying threat. The desire for attention, by being naughty or by how they choose to dress. They want that attention and they can be manipulative. Sly like a fox. Love the open air. Love being outside in nature. They desire ice and spice. What an easy way to remember: desires ice and spice. Anorexia can be part of this picture. Not always, but it can be going long periods of time without eating. They don't like to have to stop to eat. They can decide not to eat as a form of control, especially in disturbed teens with a picture that looks a little bit like ADHD.
Bri Hurlburt 1:00:02
Okay.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:00:03
So that’s Tarentula.
Our last one is Belladonna. It's pretty short also. Do you want to do Belladonna?
Bri Hurlburt 1:00:10
Sure I'll do Belladonna.
Belladonna is great for behavioral problems in children. This could be a suddenness, but how would that relate to ADHD though? Like maybe that behavior is a really sudden behavior? Or maybe they have a physical presentation of it?
Melissa Crenshaw 1:00:35
Our keynotes for Belladonna are red, hot, and high, right? Those are the main keynotes. And throbbing. They have a throbbing pain. To me it sounds like they have a sudden outburst of energy or sudden outburst of whatever behavior.
Bri Hurlburt 1:00:58
Yeah, that sounds like that paired, which would be why it would be a unique remedy as you can probably see that physical presentation with the behavior.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:01:06
They can be red, yeah.
Bri Hurlburt 1:01:09
Yeah. That heat and redness and even dilated pupils.
I love this one: the external angel and devil. Anacardium could be that internal struggle between good and bad, but Belladonna is a very external one that you can see. They’re either absolutely a little darling, or they are a nightmare. It's like that Jekyll and Hyde type deal is what I picture.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:01:37
Yeah.
Bri Hurlburt 1:01:38
So super sweet and suddenly he just turns into like a monster. And you might see that look in their eyes, that crazed look. Their pupils might dilate and you just know the tantrum’s coming. They might be really violent, aggressive, uncooperative. That very sudden behavior. They have a robust energy. It's a strong behavior. A lot of energy, stamina. When they're in a good mood, they're in a really good mood. They're cheerful, chatty. You like to be around them. When they're in a bad mood, they're violent, maybe abusive, or shouting. It's those extremes.
They tend to be noisy children, so slamming cars into each other, banging things. really noisy play. This seriously sounds like a lot of the day. They love war play: tanks and guns and soldiers. That intensity. Very attracted to war and video games of war or paintball. That explosive energy. So you hear them. And I know what these are talking about. You hear the explosions when they play, whether it's physically they're crashing stuff or you even know when they're playing and they're going “pchooo” like everything's exploding, you know?
They like to talk and laugh and sing. They might like violent things. When they're in that wild state, they can be very violent. Set things on fire. Like those kids who are really obsessed with fire.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:03:29
Mm-hmm. Red and hot.
Bri Hurlburt 1:03:30
Yeah, red and hot. I never thought of that.
When you ask them why they're mad you see that their face … They might like … I picture that little kid who is really tense and going to boil. Like his eyes get red or his face gets really red. Like there’s steam coming out of their ears.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:03:53
Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Bri Hurlburt 1:03:56
This is funny. I have never really thought of Belladonna personified, when you think of it in a fever or when you use it for sickness, this is it as a person. Belladonna kids are scared of the dark, of monsters. They love sour things. This is different than that sweet fruity craving in the other remedies. They like lemon juice, maybe with a little sugar but they like the sharp, sour taste. They might throw that big, huge fit, but then recover really quickly, kind of like a Belladonna fever. It might get really high and intense, but maybe a shorter duration than other prolonged type fevers. And that is Belladonna, so not as long. .
Melissa Crenshaw 1:04:55
You just said how they like the lemon juice and they might like a little bit of sugar but they like that sharp. They might even suck on a lemon. One thing just to think about. This is almost kind of a side note. When we're looking in a repertory, when we're taking a case and we're trying to figure out and are asking what they like, what they desire, their food desires. That can always play into the chronic pictures, right? So you look in the food chapter. If a mom or a person, whatever, says to you that they or their child likes lemonade, you have to differentiate between today's lemonade and the lemonade of back in Hahnemann’s time when these materia medicas were written. That lemonade was lemon and water with maybe a little bit of sugar, or maybe not.
Bri Hurlburt 1:05:53
Good point.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:05:54
That was sharp, sour lemonade. Our lemonade today is sugar.
Bri Hurlburt 1:05:57
Oh yeah.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:05:58
Sugar with a little lemon taste.
Bri Hurlburt 1:06:02
So good. I mean, I love their lemonade, but it is so sugary. You're right.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:06:09
The lemonade in the materia medica is not this sweet lemonade that we drink today. If somebody says they like lemonade, then you want to dig deeper and say do they like lemons? Do they like to suck on lemons? Do they like to squeeze lemon on their salad or whatever. You want to dig deeper and see, do they really like sour things or do they like sweet things?
Bri Hurlburt 1:06:33
Yeah. So make sure of what it is, that’s we're talking about the same thing. Yeah, that's a good point.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:06:42
Awesome. ADHD. That was a big one. And it was so interesting, wasn't it, to just …
Bri Hurlburt 1:06:49
Oh my word. So interesting. I hope you guys thought so if you're listening. I feel like this is going to be really helpful. I don't think I've ever seen it broken down like this., I really enjoyed that.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:07:05
Yeah, me too. Join us in my mentorship program if you want to learn how to manage your ADHD case. In the mentorship program, we really dig deep into case management, case taking and case management. You can come join me there. You can look on my website, melissacrenshaw.com, and under the Courses tab you’ll find the mentorship program and really read about it. You can watch a video of me talking about it. You can learn and know all these remedies and know what to give, but in that mentorship program, I help you learn how to manage the case. How do you know when to move on? How do you know when to stay with the remedy? How do you know how long to do the remedy? Those are the things that we dig deep into in that and so I'd love to see you. If you take Gateway I and Gateway II first, then you get a 10% discount off the mentorship program.
Bri Hurlburt 1:08:01
Which is great anyway. That's a really good foundation. They're not expensive and you get really good information there. You don't have to do them, but it is helpful. Thank you so much, Melissa. This was so good.
Melissa Crenshaw 1:08:18
Awesome. Thank you. We’ll see y’all next time.