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Hey, Andy, did you when you were a kid? Did you ever build a fort?
Yes, yes,
yes, like just in the house or outside, or the
long answer is, when I was a kid, kid we had, I was in a daycare, right? And this was back when, you know, mom went to work, dropped you off in the morning, or you went there after school, and you just had the run of the house, right? So I stayed in this daycare about until the fifth grade. So I was one of the eldest kids in
the thing. And we would always jump the back fence, go out into this back maybe half acre of woods and field, and there's just air conditioner shells and plywood and fences just shit junk. And we would build lean two forts and have turret guns and stuff. Yeah. So, yes, yeah, fun part of life.
Okay, so, when did you ever have a fort that you had that was just sort of a hideout fort? Like, not like, I used to build forts for having dirt clawed wars, and then we built forts for, you know, tactical fort, but, but I used to have just, like a hideout, like, where you kept some snacks in there and just put, kind of, I
understand, yes, I understand the same, same thing, where you just kind of stow some things out there just in case. Yeah, that's your bug out. That's right, where you knew what it was,
okay, all right. The reason I ask is that I haven't had a fort since I was nine, but I feel like working in my building, my garage has become my fort. I Okay? I see that, you know. And and so, and what's interesting is that I've had other garages, you know, to work on my junk, but I never took hardly any time to set them up, you know. And so they were just all whatever it was there I used, and whatever it didn't
have, I suffered through. And this is the first time since I've nine, since I've nine years old, that I'm trying to set this thing up for. It's a It's, well, it's just such a nostalgic feeling to go out to my fort, you know, I mean, because you remember how it is, like I'm hiding away, or I'm on my own, or I'm doing what I want, or it's like your space, it's like, this is the space where I'm
it's your you get to make all the decisions about everything, and it's not Yeah. I envy that that's Yeah.
So do you feel that way about your girl,
in a way? Because, yeah, well yes and no, because it's a rental and so there's only so much you can do. But right when I, like, I took pictures of it as I filled it up, you know, I mean, like, so I'm like, Oh, this is where the sandblast cabinet goes. Hey, there's, there's, there's not a sandblasting cabinet. Here's sandblasting cabinet. And so, you know, and then, of course, it's just full of shit now, and bikes, but, yeah, it says there's a certain excitement of
not ownership. But it's just like, this is you start to overthink how you're going to use it and what's next. And this is where I keep this. That's that, yeah,
yeah. It's just like, if I was a girl, be like, playing house, you know, but I'm playing house in my I'm playing tanta or whatever, I'm playing in my garage, and it's, it's this kind of strange feeling. And so for the yesterday was the first time that I hooked up my little boom box and played some music. That's
amazing. That's nice. You know that,
that moment where you're just kind of in your garage and the music's Right,
yeah, you had that.
Yeah, I had that moment. I haven't had that in years. In fact, the last time I think I had a nice time like that in the shop was, I think, when we were back at Tech Shop, and you used to, you brought your phone and had your playlist on it, and you had in and I like your playlist. I like what you were playing, and we had some music, and it was just really such a nice atmosphere to sit down and work and have a little bit of music. Well, anyway, the point was sound in the shop. And
so this I'm taking time. I have this big Milwaukee job site boom box, you know that I just put my phone to that actually, it sounds great out there, but I have rat hold some outdoor speakers. I'm going to put, like, in a regular system. I want it to be like, surprisingly decent. I says, I Yeah, and, and what's funny is that I don't care about a stereo at home. I don't care about a stereo in the car. Not at all important to me. But all of a sudden it's become important to me. Stereo. Who
says that? Who sees that word
in the like in the corners? Just nice little Yeah. It, yeah,
real crisp. I want, you know, want it to be, yeah, I'm
envious of that. Anyway,
that's funny. Did you get the picture I sent you today? I
did. I did. And funny. I have a tangent for that as well, but it looks amazing.
So let me just say I've been building this homemade circus tent, right? That looks like a looks like a homeless guy took over a certain day, so latent from 20 years ago, that's kind of what my garage looks like. So I what I built is my own fabric building out of old billboards and steel
trusses. Yeah. So today I put this right, so that's the story, and I put the side walls up today, which I did didn't even look so once one side of the shop I have a Carl's Jr Billboard, and the other side is Wendy, oh
boy. Okay, that's awesome. Well, you don't want that inside, amazing. Yeah. Are you getting these locally, or Did you are you ordering them?
No, there's a guy in Tucson that just sells them for 50 bucks, and you go up and just get whatever. I just And so I go ordered
some billboard tarpaulin to make some things out of. I mean, it's great. It's got patterns already built into it, yeah, but yeah,
yeah, no. And it's, it's really neat stuff. I mean, it's really durable, and it glues well, and you can sew it. And so I love it. I'm gonna do a ton of things with it, but it's just sort of funny. I ended up with those two things on the on the side of the shop, and then I, which I thought was it looks a little bit not like I don't like it all right, because I actually got one of them upside down inadvertently. Then
I'm not going to rehang it. But what, what kind of turned me sour on it is that I went out and went out my driveway and went past my neighbor's house and turn around and came back to see what he sees every day when he comes down. And it just looks a little scary. Yeah, yeah. So I'm actually going to paint them out and, you know, paint them to match the other buildings on the property, or whatever. But it was just sort of funny today that I saw my neighbor saw for
the first time. I thought, I can't, well, that's nice of you. How would you feel if your name well, how would you feel if all of a sudden you got up tomorrow in your neighborhood, hung uh, Wendy's four for four, especially
in this lush prairie desert scape or something,
and then, yeah, and it's a and it's a 10 by 40 foot billboard. Well, that's very kind of you. It's
very interested in its durability,
the tar, okay, that that that is an issue. And so the it has to do with the thickness of it, and then how tight you stretch it. I've learned this so that if you stretch it in the sun, and when it's been once 100 degrees out there, you stretch it and you get it too tight, then when it's cold and don't like it, so you kind of have to kind of split the difference. My goal is just to get all the wrinkles out. I don't care how tight it is, I
just get the wrinkles out. But then one of the things I learned is that just by covering, I'll put a covering on it, like I just use this elastomeric roof coating. It's like a thick latex paint, or even just latex paint, and what it gives it a UV layer. So that here, where I live in Arizona, the it's the sun damage, that would be the big
problem. And so evidently, these things, you know, we'll see how long it lasts, but I've used six of them so far to cut and make everything shop 1600 square feet, and you're and I pretty much got it all covered doing
this so, if not entirely, but largely, by yourself.
Okay, yeah, yeah, I do everything by myself. I kind of like, Yeah, well,
you know, it's funny, like, this is a project that you would think, just looking at it as its scale, yeah, this does reflect your skill and prowess, whatever, but that's a project where you think, man, a few people did that, but I imagine that, like There is a certain gratification, not only in completing it and doing it yourself, but like, this is a massive thing. How can I figure out how to do this? Like you told me how you got the trestles up and all this and yeah,
yeah. You know what's funny is that I spend about two hours a day when I'm supposed to be doing something else, just thinking of procedurally, yeah, and so really, by the time I put something up, you know, it's like I've thought it through for a week and a half about how to go. And I'm not a I'm not a very prepared guy, and I don't lay everything out. I'm not anal. I'm not a perfectionist at all. But I have come up with some pretty stinking good methods for doing stuff with just two arms.
You know, it's amazing. The kind of things you can do. Two arms and a pickup. I use my pickup for everything. I stand on it. I put ladders on it. I pull on it. You know, it's a it's been the chief tool is my Ford f2 50. But I'm getting ready to move in the garage, so I kind of brought up the garage stuff, because I'm just. Now having feelings about being there for the first time, because it's kind of got some definition, you know? And, yeah, I don't, I don't want
to come back there all night. I get that out there.
I know I I want to, I want to put a loft in there and sleep out there, not because I don't want to be at home, but I love the people at my home. It's just that, well, I
think that, I think there's something to that that you're just experiencing on a grander scale. Because, and I know that in a lot of ways, you and I are kindred in our, you know, sort of whatever. But I know that there's a streak in maybe men or people or whatever. But like, even when I built the shelves in the garage in our one in our townhouse, all I wanted to do is stay in the garage and just sit on a motorcycle and be like, Yeah, this, this is the garage, you know. I mean, like,
I'm not doing anything. I don't have any tools. I just want to hang out in here. It's cool, you know? Well, it's
like, that's the stuff you want to be around, you know. And then, like, I knew a guy that had an airplane hangar. We used to go out to his hangar. I thought, how great is this? Because in the middle of the hangar, he had a little sectional, leather sofa and lamps and, you know, so it was like a non defined living room, but there was a little, you know, all the end tables were refrigerators and had little stuff in it. So it's kind of
high end, you know. But what was cool is that you're sitting in what feels like a living room, but his airplanes and his motorcycles and his trucks and everything is in there, and you think, Man, this is so much better. Yeah, furniture, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. Just like, I think the next, the next stage is to, I mean, I already have Ducati on the porch, but yet, I really would like to decide which ones come in the house, yeah,
oh, you mean into your house, or the literal house.
Yeah? Because I love motorcycles, yes, I love I've always
there is something about that, because they don't belong, and so it's okay, like if, I mean, there's at least one that doesn't get a lot of writing or attention or whatever, bring it in, like, these, these ones that we've discussed in eastern Washington, I think one of them would be, just be in the living room, like, or even my little office, just put it on the desk in front of me and, like, there's plenty of room on this desk. Yeah. You know, that's fine. You
know, in fact, could you imagine getting a corporate gig and going to work and going, Is this my office, you know, I said, and then go get your envy Augustine and wheel it in there and
put, yeah, can you can get a hand? I mean,
yeah. But what's funny is that I'm sure it would cause, you know, you know, a lot of consternation among, you know, your boss or whatever. But everybody wishes, everybody, if you did it, everybody would wish they could do it too, or they wish they did done it. They go, that's the coolest thing
ever. Badass.
Andy's Look at that. You don't bring a motorcycle into the office. Yeah, yeah. You do breaker.
I want to take him.
Okay, hey, you mentioned the Honey Hole. That's what my second conversation today was or that I wanted to have with you, I figured, was I wanted to follow up with a honey hole. But then I also have a theoretical question, maybe. Okay,
theoretical, shoot,
okay. Um, today, I'm not thinking about your honey hole. I just was trolling Craigs, or, excuse me, eBay, which I hardly ever troll eBay. That's usually because I'm out of things to look at. But, I love it. I love doing it. Except for, do you know how to get to when you go to eBay, all I want to look is other cycle, you know? I mean not brand you go brand names, yeah, and you can,
we'll talk, or whatever. I want to get to other because that's the stuff that I like and I see it, but I don't know how to get back
to eBay's a weird one, because you have to go to motors, but motors also includes parts, which also includes Chinese knockoffs of shit that has nothing to do with anything,
right? But anyway, I never know how to get there. I finally got there, or today I couldn't figure it out, and so what I did today is I just searched motorcycles from 1910 to 1975 right? So at least a year on, I just did it to kind of like when I and I see the category Other which I want to be in, but I'm not in it. But nonetheless, here's what I found, $25,000
okay? For
15 roller Ducati, um elites, scramblers and monses. All right, Minnesota,
okay, I've seen that. I've seen that post, yes, all right, so
15 rollers parts and whatever. I mean, you could look at, you've seen the ad asking $25,000 for it. So that's, that's nearly $2,000
a roller is way I look at which is crazy, which
is crazy. So let me just ask you this. I see these things for sale. Are we nuts? Are people buying that kind of stuff at that price? Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's, it's, that's my pricing model, way outdated. I.
Think so, but I don't think it's a bad thing, because we're obviously satisfied in our count, you know, I mean, I'm like, Oh man, I really wished I had another Ducati, like we we have some, and if we really wanted one, we could probably find another one. That's not the moon, right? There's dudes out there who would rather, I mean, money is less important than the hunt or the fixing or the search, or whatever, where that, yeah, that sounds ludicrous. You know, I
know, in fact, I had, I nearly had that much in my first Ducati roller that I bought with you, and I just wanted to throw up over it, except for the fact that it's like I hadn't seen one in years. And just, you know, same thing, how I got pushed into the Marini a little bit more than I wanted to go. But yet, if you when you don't have them and you want them, I mean, what's your choice? Yeah, but I'm worried.
I'm worried that I'm such a boomer anyway, but I have, am I a boomer in the motorcycle price world too? Am I unrealistic about what project dollars are?
What's funny, I think that the spending two grand on a or I say you spent seven grand on a finished writable Ducati. I think that's Boomer, because that seems like like the value is its rarity and collectibility when we know it's not that rare. I mean, they're rare, yeah, you know, four, 450 wide cases are rare, right? But just a little Monza, 250 to run around, or even little Scrambler. That's not that hard
to come by. But I think that the the holding on to your collection or valuing it in such a dear way that's more Boomer, yeah. I mean, like, well,
you know, you know what I worry about is that I see these things for sale on Craigslist for years, and so obviously, if it's a $1,200 bike and project, Someone's probably
gonna buy it. I see guys that have the same project that think it's a $3,500 project, and because they thought they saw somewhere that at an auction or somewhere on Craigslist, that once it was a Ducati scramble that once sold for 8000 or $12,000 and now they think that, they think, okay, that's the basis now for what all this is
worth. And I just look at it and think, I just don't think I can imagine selling my finished Ducati, and I bet I could wait forever to get $4,500 for it, but if I took it to a show or a place, there's people like, oh, wow, you know. Hey, that's a pretty good deal, you know? But yet, in reality, when it comes time to sell it and find a buyer, I just think you have to be like at 70% of retail if you're going to get any action on it. Yeah, I don't know, can you, can you get high retail on
you? Ever Sold anything for high retail, like my
paso, I tried to sell and I had a guy over in that arena. In other words, it was three grand, and that was probably right price for that model, but he was so out of shape about, you know, a piece of paint had shipped, and so it was just all wrong, you know, right? And so that's about as close as I've gotten, okay, all right. I mean, they actually, kz, 750s, the twins, yes, are surprisingly hard to find, and they're great bikes. And so once upon a time, they were pretty
hard to find. I'd found like, two for 500 bucks each, or whatever, but I sold those consistently for 18 or two grand, 18 102 grand, just because I don't know they got, if you want one, you're willing to pay now,
yeah, I guess so. I
mean, yeah.
I mean, occasionally I've come across that, and occasionally, I've done okay on auctions, or I've done okay on eBay or, you know, but yet, just by and large, I'm just skeptical in general, of almost everybody who's trying to sell their car or motorcycle on Craigslist, when they just look in, they look at they it's based on auction pricing, which is An auction. Pricing is different. That's a bunch of pretty well heeled people that are buying fairly new looking stuff, you
know. And I think all those cars and things that are sold for $50,000 at auction, I don't think there's anybody that's got less than $50,000 in it. At some point, someone had to take that ride, you know. Maybe somebody else got it underneath, or whatever. But you know, for that thing to come back and roll across the block, it's kind of
a so it there is, like, looking at these pile, this pile of Ducati, there's, there's, I mean, it sucks, because there's some really great stuff in here. But if, and also, if you look at the Facebook groups, that's where I've been looking, mostly because there's at least stuff
there. Now it's priced, unfortunately, like what we're talking about, where, you know, somebody thinks they're gonna get whatever for it, and they and they might do, and that's the trouble is that there's some other dude who's like, Oh yeah, yeah. That's, well, okay, so like, the the camel, those are gonna the motor Marini camel, which would be a very good homework to have, yeah, but he
wants four grand for it. It's like, yeah, that just dude, you know, it sucks, because he might have been able to get that in 2007
Yeah? That's right. Nobody ever expects that the collectible market to correct, and it does, you know, I think they just think that it's always going to be gaining and it just not that like that. So here's one other thing, just regarding the one of the reasons why the Ducati batch caught my eye. And let me ask you how you feel about this. There are times that I want to do something just because I know how to do it,
right? And so the reason I look at these ducaties is I finally cracked the code for how to make them work, you know, with all the electrics and all the charging system and, you know, and I've been through the motors, so there's no real mystery. I mean, I could still screw it up a strip, you know, as much as the next guy. But to me, it's something that I know a
little bit about. And when you look at projects like, if we buy like, if you finally come to your senses and let me buy that envy Augusta, or if you have to insist on getting everything for yourself, then you get it for yourself. But anyway, one of us will end up with it. But then you got to kind of think, all right, now I've got to go ahead and get in and learn my thing, my my way around it, and we'll know something about it because
we've been around bikes. But there isn't there just a big difference in your mind in terms of project, when you think, Oh, hey, that Fiat 128, is coming up for sale. I see it. I already have one. I know exactly what to do with it, yeah, are there times that you feel sucked into projects just because you know how to do it?
See most of the time, just the opposite, really, because, yeah, because, like, the kz is actually a good example, because I bought one and I was like, Oh, this is great. It's, you know, at that point I had the CX 500 and then the 750 was the, was the big upgrade, right? That I, you know, that I bought and I loved it, and ended up selling all those bikes. But then later, I was trying to recapture that 750
that I'd gotten, right? So I got another 750 it just didn't feel the same, like it was, it was like, I understand what's wrong. Or at that point, I realized it's about finding the thing and then learning something new and fixing an unknown problem, right? So if I do that and then just do it again, then that just seems like it's a means to the end of having the bike, and that's not really the bulk of what I'm interested in. Does that make sense?
It does because I'm actually on the other side of that. Maybe it's because of my age, but, but I'm kind of now looking returning to things I've once had before, just because I know how to do it. Yeah, you know, and, but not
from it, not from a nostalgic standpoint. Sometimes, like I thought
about I'd get a Land Rover project again, I had Land Rovers coming out my ears. 20 years ago, you know, I had nothing but Land Rovers laying around. And then I had kajiva Elephant, six of them, you know. And so I had just everything. And, you know, every now and then when I think, oh, you know, maybe I'd like to get one of those again. But probably the biggest attraction is that now I figured, well, I'm a little bit, little bit better set up to do these things. I could do a
little bit better job. And I kind of don't have to have those, you know, be stumped all the time about some of the stuff, because, you know, once you've kind of figured something out and you have your own solutions for them, to me, I think that's very powerful and and all of a sudden I feel I'm capable now, and when, like, you know, I got stalled on my Ducati project because I kept trying to consult other people in the forums about how to solve it, and finally I just said, Fuck
it. I'm just gonna figure this out as about if I was the only guy on the planet and I had to just do it with stuff that I can find. I'm just gonna make this work. And all of a sudden it just occurred to me how to make it work. And it's, I'm sure it occurred to everybody else too.
But thing is, I invented my way through this, even though it wasn't, you know, original work, but yeah, now it's like I'm armed with how to fix, how to figure this out, and that makes me more likely to take on a project, another project that I can figure out, because I don't like being stumped. That's just not that fun to me.
I like being stumped and figuring it out, but I do one thing you did say that I will take a step back on, is that idea of doing the same thing over but better now that you're either better at that thing or you know more about the process, right? Like, you know, painting the van, yes, right? Like the van is blue, it's still
blue. But if I, I don't want to do it again, because it's a giant van, and it's fine the way it is, but if I had it over, if I if it was primed and ready to go, I'd probably do a little more body work. Yeah, I'd probably prep it a little bit better, right? But on that in that point, yeah, if it's to do that thing, I know how to do again better, you know. And maybe, maybe I am mistaken, because, yeah, I want to do that thing over again. But for me, it's also been incremental, you
know, receipt valves. Okay, what's next after that? Okay, well, I. Take the cylinder off new new rings, to hone the cylinder, you know, on any given like a CT 90 or something. And then ultimately, I'm renewing, rebuilding the Benelli with a Kickstarter, and then the Ducati, you know, so, so I've incrementally gotten deeper into bigger projects. And so I'm doing the same thing that I know how to do, but I'm adding a layer of depth.
Okay, you know what? I just thought of this. And maybe this will be enough for the topic, you tell me. But one of the reasons I like doing stuff that I've done before is that I know how to cheat, and that's what I like. I like cheating. You know? I love the fact that, like, I'm putting together a Volvo motor now, and I need lifters for it, and you can get them from Volvo for $18 a piece. There's only eight of
them. It's not a big deal. But I can also get the ones out of a small block Chevy for $4 a piece. And I know that, you know, it just so happens that those work. And so I love the cheats,
the well, you can that's streamlining the process. Streamlines
a process. It saves me money. I feel smart when I do it, yeah. And so I love cheating. Maybe that's one of the reasons why I stay with I would like to stay with projects, because I know how to cheat it, and that means I can be a little bit more savvy about buying it, you know. And sometimes, like, I look at a project, do you ever do this? You look at a project and somebody goes, Oh, that's so much work. And I'm just kind of in my underneath my breath. I'm laughing. I'm going, Are you
kidding me? This is a paint job. This is not a lot of work, you know, this time. But, or like, I look at it with property we buy, you know, we're looking to buy some rental property, you know. And people, you know, walk away because there's, you know, some the ceilings coming down because there was a water leak. And people, oh my gosh, there's a
water leak, you know. And you just realize this is $250 repair, you know, yeah, and so sometimes I feel like that, and I like feeling like I'm getting over, I guess, you know, yeah, without taking Well, I don't mind taking advantage of people either for that, you know. So I should. I always wanted to, I always want to say I'm a guy that wouldn't take advantage of somebody on a deal, but like, I would take advantage of you, you know, if I could,
well, but it's not. It's not getting one over that. It is just like, well, there's a reason. I'm selling it. I can't do it. Somebody who else who can the value of you being able to do it, that's your so I go back and forth and, yeah, I don't mind going back, but there's, there's so many other new things to do, just, I mean, and even just on the Italian single yes
side, well, like, go ahead. So that's what's Well, as I say, that's because, I mean, we've had a conversation before where, like, I don't get like, BSA guys, you don't mean, like, I don't get BMW guys, like those 70 year old dudes who have been working on nothing, but opposed twins, yeah, for 50 years, and they know every facet of it, and they sure they know a lot of things about a lot of things, but that's all they're interested in doing, is working
on BMWs, right? And I go back and forth on that, because it's like, well, if you, if you know it inside now, then you just, you're continually having success. That's awesome. But I realize that's a different motivation than me, who's like, Okay, I had a BMW. I pretty much conquered it. I'd love to do another one, bigger one, to have another experience with a different airhead. But as far as you know that engine goes, I had the problems, solved them and I wrote it. Yeah. Now what's next?
Yeah? So yes, I never understood that, but it sounds like or I wonder if, as you get older, are you, are you narrowing your focus on the kinds of things that you want
to do? Maybe, yeah, I mean, because it's around, and also, too, it's not only my age, but also the My collection is nearly, you know, it's more shit than I need, you know. And so then you get a, it's a whole different decision making process when you already have, I mean, I've just built a brand new garage, and it's going to be full the minute I'm done, you know, with stuff. And so it's like, okay, I don't need to, I need to be careful about what I add to the mix here, you
know. And so there's a so it's partly age, partly looking for some shortcuts, yeah. And then the other part of it is just, the reality is that when you have enough shit, you know, you just don't need to keep having the same shit. Yeah, you know, although I get confused on that, I mean, there are times I keep trying to buy stuff I already have, you know, just because it's a good deal or whatever. And, well, actually, here was
here. Here was one. And maybe this would be a little bit illustrative of my problem, is that I found I signed a car I never seen before. It's called an ESO revolta, all right, and it was for sale in San Francisco. It was 12 grand for a rusty Hulk laying in the backyard, right? I see, I could see that someone had ground the paint off of it years ago and just left it outside. And so I looked at it, and it looked different. And I couldn't tell what was different about I
couldn't tell what it was. And I started. Then it was this Easter. Revolt. I never even heard of that. Then I looked them up, and of course, they're Italian. I fell fucking in love with it. And then I then it just got better and better and better, because they have small block Chevy's in them, which I hate as motors. I hate them, okay, but there's nothing to really worry about making it run or getting it going. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna find my way
through it. And they do some neat little trick tunes to them, or whatever in but these, this was an Italian coach work car. It had American v8 in it. The underpinnings were all Jaguar. Is it? You know, independent suspension and bushes, just the way Jaguar sets up their suspension. They used a lot of Jaguar parts. And so for me, I thought, Oh my gosh. One, it's Rusty. And who's a welder? Me,
okay? And then if it needs, it needs Chevy parts, shit, yes, you know, it's like, I get the underside of it, I'll know how to set up the suspension. I know how to put all that stuff in it, you know. And it was $12,000 for it, and it's 100,000 color dollar car done. And I thought, I'm gonna get this thing for $12,000 yeah, and I am just gonna fight my way through it. And it'll be a challenge to take care of, you know, to do the upholstery or get it done, or the paint or whatever, because
this will have to be done. All right, there's no room for one of these to be done up as a half assed race car, you know, which is how I do most things. But this one had to be done. But anyway, I was excited because it was unique and I loved it, but yet, it had so many things I knew how to fix, and so I had to have it talk to the guy twice.
Third conversation I'm going to put the money down and fly out and get it fucker sold it to a guy in England who, the next day, before he even got it, advertised it and sold it for $39,000 as a project to some guy in Sweden.
Oh, that's aggravated. That's aggravating. Damn. What? Which one was it? Well,
some of the esos are untouchable, like the I have to look, I have to remember which one it is, but this was the ESO revolta. It's a two door hardtop sedan. Looks a little bit like a jaguar xjc coupe, but very Ferrari looking, in terms of their sedan and family cars. Okay? I mean, it's, it's neat. It
looks like, it looks like a Jaguar had sex with a Camaro and a BMW? Watch, yes, 2002
watched, yeah, yes, well, but by the time they got to 6869 they were just fucking ugly. But this was an early 60s one, but they also have the ESO Griffo. Look up that one. Yes. That was untouchable.
Super nice. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Those are, those are for people that are better than me, and that's just all there is to it. But anyway, so there I was, so that was, I was going to get into something new, totally unknown, but it had some of the key features were things that made me feel powerful, like I love buying, I want to buy the rustiest cars ever. Just nothing to me. I just, I look for ones that are just falling apart in the field, because, to me, it's just metal.
All we're going to do is put little pieces of metal and then big pieces of metal in it, but it's just metal. Yeah, there's no mystery in it. To me,
yeah, well, it is not to jump back around, but I've got this Ducati page opened up, and there's so many one off pieces that I need, like I need a new seat, and he's got to pay for this beautiful
what would you pay for that lot?
Were I able to? I mean, 25 is insane. It's very optimistic, but the more you look, the more it goes in, because he's got rollers, but then he's got parts enough for probably six more rollers. Yes,
you know, I think he figures there's 15 bikes in there. Yeah, something. But to me, $15,000 is a number. I would run out there and get Undo, and then, yeah, at 15, I would go out there and give them the 15 for it. But on the way out there, I'd call you and go, How much, how much do you want in for? You know? And I'd call my friend Sean and Terry and go, how much you guys want in for?
Because I don't need 15 of them, but I wouldn't mind having five of them, you know, five of them for five grand, you know, between us would be, you know, that's how I like to do it. But yeah,
and there's so much good stuff in there, you know, it's funny, because there's these little little, uh, pockets of Ducati parts scattered throughout the US so, and it's aggravating, because when I got my paso, I mean, I don't even tell you a story, I got the Paso in Baroque Kansas. Okay, so I saw it. I saw it as way out of the way. And so I saw it, called the guy, and I knew that he had bought it from another guy the week prior for 500 less. So I
knew what he paid. Yes, I was gonna go out and buy it then. And then he immediately turned it, turned around, flipped it, uh, sold to me. Made 500 bucks, good for him. So I went out and bought this thing, and. He was an older guy, and he was kind of protective, like, you know, this is as far as you're coming in, buddy, you know, yeah. And, well, yeah. And so I talking about the those Kansas, okay. And so that's all this came to me, big difference. And so he, he was just kind of like, you
know, not really inviting. I'm just trying to be as charming as I fucking can. Because I see behind him, he's got two Ducati singles on stands. I
just love the thought of trying to, I love the thought of you trying to be charming. I just love that
to some old, some old bastard. And he was super nice once you broke that ice. He was so nice. But, you know, basically, did the had to do the deal on the Paso before I could even talk about anything else. And then once, once we sort of shipped away. It was like, Oh yeah, come back here and have a look. And, you know, there's a room and then another room. He used to be a Ducati dealer, apparently. So he had parts. He had a room that was like, here's the velocity stacks shelf and
it's just full of shit. Here's the the clip ons shelf, and it's just 40, 5060, if
I could live my life over, I'd like to be a dealer of something, wouldn't I mean to have been a dealer in a motorcycle. Yes, once upon, oh, my god, can you imagine how much fun that would have been? Andy, we're gonna sell hodakas. You know, it doesn't matter, you know, it's like, could you imagine the dream of being a dealer? They all got killed and lost their ass. I mean, nobody made money in the whole deal.
But I just would have loved to have been a dealer at some point, especially, especially on the small scale, because, like, I never wanted to be like a Ford dealer, you know, or a Honda dealer. That doesn't really attract me, although I'm sure there's a decent bunch of money in it. But the the oddball stuff, like, I look at these old cars I have, you know, it's like what it would have been like to have been a dealer and who have sold, you know, Hudson's and and
pierce arrows, you know. And you know, they were small maker cars, you know, and just, oh, man, it would have been great to have been involved with that, or motorcycles, right?
Well, I'm gonna, now, I'm gonna keep an eye on this okay thing. But I know I saw it somewhere. Must have been Facebook or something. But anyway, we got, we got other things to do before, more Ducatis alone, more expensive. Ducati, yeah,
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