M Hey, everybody, welcome to hold up the show. That's a lot about nothing. I think I'm just gonna do a different one of these every episode. I'm just gonna have a different tagline going. You know, a lot about nothing, big opinions about small things, an argument you never saw coming, all that stuff. I am one of your co host Josh Johnson. I'm a writer for the Daily Show. If you're looking to catch up with me on any of the things, you can find me at Josh Shahnson Comedy.
On pretty much everything. I'm joined by Dulce Sloan, who is a card for the Daily Show, a comedian, a daughter, a sister, soon to be mother, I don't know when, soon to be wife. Haven't met the nick yet but hopefully one day. But current Tom, I got your parents. Yeah, so this is a new development. So I went to Comic Con and one but tim, I got you. This is a special AMICN limited edition. Baby's name is CHEECHI
is a year old and eleven pounds currently. Uh don't need to discipline, maybe a little hungry might give her, might give a snack? Uh happy? The discipline is that like an actual spanking, Like what was it doing? I don't know what the discipline, but I don't know what actually happens to it. But I was reading up on it, and basically like if they if you're tamagotchi doesn't want to eat when it's hungry or doesn't want to play when it's not happy, then you discipline it because they
say you don't want to. If you look at the instructions, it says you don't want to. Um have an unattractive or bad behaving alien. Because the concept behind the time I got you, which I never knew as a kid, was that these are actually aliens raising aliens. Did you have a tamagotchi just like a gigapet or a n anio pet? I have this thing from the dollar store that it didn't instill any confidence that I could ever be a father. It like it would die. It would
die while I was playing. So I don't know if I took the wrong left or something, but it would it would die on me immediately in the game. I maybe I just didn't know how to feed it. Maybe it was hungry and I was just out here taking it on walks that it that it wasn't ready for you never babysat for your friends giga pets when you were in school, like you get like a like like you literally get like a late like just because I'd be in class and I just have like six of them,
six or eight of them. I was like, let me feed this one into me, like your friends would trust you with them. And then they didn't die. And then my mom ever bought me one. I just ended up with one, like I think my friend had one. I was just like, I don't want to deal with this or I can't take the pressure anymore. That's a team mom. They don't want to be in it like that. Yeah,
they were a team mom. And I showed that I had the wherewithal I have the heart at the heart um because sometimes people were like I would babysit them and people would forget that I had them. Yeah, and they'd be like, do you want your giga pet Nanna pet time I got you back and they'd be like, oh yeah, like can you just watch it because I think it's gonna die if I watch it. So I just was a giga pet daycare center. I feel you.
I mean this this uh I think maybe falls in line with our theme today because Our theme is about you know, some heart healthy things, some heartwarming things. Some heartwarming maybe heart healthy, I don't some some soul food in a sense. Yeah, yeah, depending on how you make it. Um. Today we're going waffles versus pancakes. Get at me, okay, and tell tell the listeners what side you land on between pancakes. But you know us, I haven't want they
know what's I don't want to look at these ear rings. Baby, my whole name and it okay, my mama got me these. They're in lockdown. We didn't know my neck wasn't long enough. What I'm saying is, you know waffles, baby, come on, can't stop. I won't stop filling the holes you Okay, So you feel strongly about waffles. Works for me because I'm on the side of pancakes. And I'll tell you right now, you're a little like bumpy bumpy pancake can't stack up to a short stack to a wow. The
cemetery came so hard it's like you own eye hot. Yeah, because I'll tell you, I've been tired of people actor like waffles or superior. I've been tired of people coming up to my breakfast is being like y'all got any waffles. It's like you're gonna you're gonna have these flat pancakes. You're gonna have these flapjacks. Are you're gonna love it? Because half the time it's the same What do you mean it's like the same batter sometimes, I'm mean, yeah,
pancake batter. Like if you're making like this quick, you know you're using the same battery for waffles. You know. I just didn't. I just didn't expect you to just be so uh have you ordered? I don't know if you know. Ian Carmel hosts another podcast that I've been a guest on before, called All Fantasy Everything. I really enjoy it. I think you'd be a great guest on it. He introduced me to two phrases rue trying out something and calling it a dipping a pinky in the ranch.
I love that. I love that. It's a wild statement. So you know that I love it too. The concept of having brunch or breakfast with people and ordering pancakes for the table. Okay, And I like this because when you order pancakes, they give you too many or not enough. I've never gotten a number of pancakes that matched how hungry. I was, Okay, I've never gotten a size of pancakes. Like my mom used to make a silver dollar pancakes
when I was a kid, perfect perfect size. And then you become an adult and all of a sudden, someone's giving me pancakes the size of a dinner plate, and I'm like, yo, I have but one mouth in one body. Who the hell are all these pancakes for? Yeah, there's too many outcomes, you know what I mean. Like it's not it's not as in texture wise, right, So some people there too dry, some people they are too wet. Sometimes they're just rubbery, you know what I mean. Okay,
but these are all restaurants. I only like the only time I ever get painted. I don't make pancakes at home like as a kid I would, but like they would always still like I could never actually, because the thing is like the pancakes you get in a restaurant you could never make at home, and the ugly pancakes you make at home are always delicious. But I could never figure out, like what kind of pan to use? Is it? Am I greasing this pan? Am I not greasing this pan? Is this much better? Did I? Did?
I try to flip them too soon. It's they just for something. That's I think they're too simple for me. They never have made a pancake. I've never made pancakes. Have been like, damn, I killed this. It was like, all right, well I gotta eat something, and I did
all this fucking weren't see. This is what I don't like about waffles, though, is that people pour a cup of batter into an iron, They flip it, They halfway burn it, They damn near burn it, especially if it's at a hotel, and then they think they've done something because something fell out of the iron. Oh, don't act like the pancake machine, that pancake machine that they have in hotels, like that's delicious. Those are those rubbery, nasty ass pancakes. You've been the hotel that had the pancake
conveyor belt. You know what I'm talking about. You've been to Holiday and Express the pancake conveyor belt. All you need to do is if it's a little too rubbery, just run it through again. Just run it through one more time. But when you make your own waffles, you decide how, like, Okay, I want to cook it a little longer, want to be a little crispy or I you know, I like mine a little less crispy. The pancake conveyor belt, you get the pancakes they give you.
That's it. You took car, symbly technology and a product to pancakes. It's like about that nasty dripping waffle iron at the hotel. Okay, first of all, it's been through too much. I know that when I get there, when I show up, the batter dripping off is already too nasty for me to get involved with. First. So if you're not enough of an adult to go over to the waffle maker iron and be like, all right, I know what time it is, quick swipe, quick swipe, boom.
How do you clean a pancake convey machine? Who is the who is the technician that's coming in to take care of that? People have been touching over the belt to pick their pancake up. You see what I'm saying? How do you clean a conveyor make? At least I know for the waffle iron, somebody's coming up and be like, get this good sprits ripped down. Boom. Somebody every night is taking that machine apart. No they not, They're not you don't know where the batter is coming from. You
don't know who. No, so you're you're telling me that even though you can't see the grind, you just assume that there's grind there on the pancake conveyor belt because there's better. Meanwhile, the batter, the burned batter that is
coming straight off that waff iron. I've never seen a clean waffle iron at a at a hotel, just because listen, if you can't take the two seconds to wipe off some batter to make yourself comfortable, I can't do nothing for you because the ironess, because it's like where the batter goes is not nasty. You think I care about the the bottom. Of course there's batter on the bottom. Children use this. I come in and take the hand sandy, wipe off the handle. I go get my cup of batter,
and I poured on there. Maybe I might mix a little peanut butter with it. Maybe I'll do it later. Maybe there's a couple of blueberries over there, drop that in there, put that in the waffle. Mike, Listen, the part where you pour in the mix is not nasty because that's where you take the pancake off give a funk. How much grease is on that hinge. The part where the pancake goes is delicious. I know what I asked for.
I'm making my own waffle at ten o two. When breakfast ended at ten I'm I I asked for this. I gotta gone to wearing got breakfast, I mean a holiday and express continental breakfast. I'm glad that there's even I'm glad that I'm I could have been getting bread and muffins and maybe a yogurt cup. Well, then let's take a second to talk about feelings of wafflueberries, of waffles and pancakes. You missing blueberries, every type of feeling that you can have between a waffle and a pancake.
The pancake holds better. Okay, I've had thick pancakes with whole blueberries in them. You can't get that with a waffle. Waffle halfway mashed everything because the iron is smushing everything together. Right, So you got I don't want a whole piece of fruit. I like having it distributed evenly. I like a little blueberry. I don't want a giant blueberry. I don't want giant fruit. I need stuff to be small. If it's going to be sprinkled into my breakfast breads. Okay, that's what I need.
But what you But the thing is, you can only serve a pancake one way. Yes, even I don't even know what that means. Serve a pancakes. You can only serve a pancake. Sweet, you understand what you can only serfer pancakes? Sweet. You can make savory waffles. I've had a mac and cheese waffle. Okay, I was in San Diego for Comic Con. When I got my time, I got you chee chee and I me and my home girl had a cheese steak waffle. So you've got steak, cheese, onions, mushrooms,
peppers on top of a delicious waffle. Also, you've been to Roscoe's before, you've been to Sweet Chick. You've had chicken and waffles. Waffles have more versatility. You know, my brother used to do. He used to cook a waffle where crispy and then put chili on top. Everything that you're saying right now is violence. You've had chicken and waffles before. We are you talking about. I'm talking about this chili thing, this steak and this steak and cheete
philly whatever thing. This is violence. This is a breakfast. No it's not. It's brunch. You're telling me you've never had chicken waffles before. I'm not saying I haven't had chicken and waffles. I'm just saying when I had chicken and waffles, I was like, wow, you know what else could do? This? Just as easy a pancake. So you're saying you've had pancakes, you had chicken and pancakes. I've had chicken in pancakes. I've had chicken and waffles. So
you're saying that you don't make no difference. The best part about a chicken and waffle mixture is that is that, oh I get I get to hook in some of that cereal, but get I get to have a little pouch for my syrup to dip in little bits of chicken whatever. That's cute, it's adorable. But you know what else?
You know what else to do that a pancake. But the you're trying to act like that waffles like you know what I'm gonna tell you, do you know what I like about the waffle on the way that it's cooked. Pancakes sometimes are just too sick. For me, it's too much. So what a waffle does? It's given me an aeration. Okay, it's given me because like with the cups on the waffles. Like because if you get an egg eggo waffles sometimes
eggo waffles, they're not great. They're frozen waffles. They're not amazing. But if you have a waffle like straight out of a waffle iron, right, take that. Oh, get you some breakfast meats and some cheese. Is now you got your nice breakfast sandwich. What better sandwich sizing and structure is there in breakfast breads than a pancake? Sloppy, poppy, too floppy. You pick up a pancake, it collapses on itself. It is passed out. It doesn't trust itself and its abilities.
It's just loose. It's at it has no bones. It's no bones. It is just uh, it is a passed out. It has fainted every it's just it's fainted. Let me tell you what. There's no strength. There's no strength. You can't drink listen. Let me tell you that's why they don't make pancake sandwiches. They make sandwiches, but waffles because they scrown. Let's talk about what happens. Try to make a waffles breakfast sandwich with the bread in it, okay, me with the bread. Waf is the bread. That's what
I'm saying. You're trying to treat waffles like bread, and it won't be bread. I promise you won't be bread for you. Because the first thing is going to happen that that aeration you're talking about, Okay, that aeration is a little hook on the on the back end from the bottom the cup on the autom That thing, thumb is gonna go right through it. So now you've got two thumbs breaking through your sand when you got fingers in your sandwich, you got a thumbs cooking me. You don't.
I sometimes when you give these scenarios, I feel like you don't believe you. It's easier to tell me. I'll believe me against me you're talking about. You're saying that my thumbs are gonna pierce through the crest part of the waffle. You friend, you stay with your nails done, all right, So one of those almond tipped nails is cutting right through the thinnest part of a waffle. How do you think I eat? I'm not just saying it's
my finger nails meeting with my hands. I know you're eating with your hands, but hey, one false move and you have slipped your finger all the way through the bread part of your sandwich, don't you you sound that is not a thing that a Philly cheese steak waffle I ate it. I would show you a pit. I have a picture. I'm not saying. I'm not saying it has never existed. I'm saying it shouldn't. Okay. The indentations in a waffle are called pockets. Okay, So the pocket
is also the thinnest part of the waffle. Is that? Is that not right in your opinion? All right? Well, anyway, so you think that your fingers will go through the pockets of a waffle, if you if that's how you're eating it, but you know you gotta lay them thumbs flat, Okay, hold it down. But the thing is, if you try with the pancake, if your pancake has too much butter and syrup on it, it's going to disintegrate in your
fingers because it's going to become let bread. And when you try to hold it up as a samy, so as you press down, your fingers are gonna go straight through it because it is a piece of bread that has been coded in syrup and butter. So you're either gonna have a dry ass pancakes sandwich or if you're like, let me just put it on the inside, let me just put the butter. Do it like a bun and it put the butter on the inside, all right for a little syrup, little butter on the inside, make me
a pancake sandwich. Boom. Now you go to grab it and your fingers just pressed right through. So I think we can I think we can agree that at waffle and a pancake do not make good sandwich ends, right, I mean they're not ideal. That's left to bagels. Well, we'll be laeve with the bagels. We'll leave with the
croissants because I love bater sandwich. Now that we've eliminated that, right, we both agree that a pancake and a waffle does not make a good bun situation for a breakfast, Sammy, What could your other issues be with the wonderful waffle? Here's the thing, The issues are not that many. I just think that pancakes are better because because we're talking
about an amount of syrup takes syrup alone. Take syrup in the case of a waffle, syrup in the case of a pancake, right, because with a short stack, or even with one waffle, I know, I know for a fact because I watched it happen, how much syrup is going onto those pancakes. All Right, with a waffle, you
don't really know how deep those pockets go. When you're talking about waffles that you never had before, you fill up the pockets thinking all right, this waffle, it should be maybe a quarter of the pockets filled, and that's gonna be enough syrup, and then you actually cut that thing open and you see the syrups spilling out, and you're like, wow, that's a bigger more than I imagine. Okay, I think you're one giving waffles too much credit to
giving a person who pours syrup not enough credit. Because if you, as a grown adult, cannot figure out how much syrup you're pouring, it doesn't matter where you go, it doesn't matter what you eat. I have seen people put way too much syrup on a on a pancake, way too much syrup to the point where the pancake becomes mush. Right, if you are heavy handed with the
syrup or syrup however you pronounce it. But if you're heavy handed with the syrup, anything I can, but I can say it takes longer for a waffle to get soggy from syrup then it does a pancake. Pancakes get very soggy very quickly. Also, the good thing about a hole of a waffle. Say you want to do a chocolate chip pancake, I mean chocolate chip waffle. Bam, you sprink that in there and you can even catch it in a little cups to give yourself a more chocolate sensation.
Peanut butter waffles, pecan waffles, okay, blueberry waffles. You also have the action to put things on top and they stay put. You can put the butter on there. You're like, okay, put it on a couple of sides. Also, what you didn't think about is when you use a waffle iron, especially in a in a in a hotel, uh breakfast situation, you don't have to make a whole waffle. Sometimes I've gone over there and being like I just want to have I just want to look quarter. Maybe I want
to challenge myself to make free quarters. Who knows you can decide more when you're dealing with the waffle, I believe because it's easier to make a waffle pair with like something you know, like with a good like bacon situation. I just prefer the texture of waffle bread than I do the texture of pancake bread. They're both breakfast breads, but I prefer the texture of a waffle, and the waffle gives you more options because if you try to put peanut butter on a pancake, you're gonna rip that
bitch in half. Peanut butter on a waffle. Waffa said, let's go. What do you think these pockets is for? Baby? Feel me up? Feel me up? My cup? Runneth over? Okay, oh man, you ever put cream cheese on a waffle again? You try to put pancake tree cheese on a pancake, It's gonna rip the funk apart. But cheese on a waffle. Waffle Letta bro God's country. What are you talking about? We're out here, we're in here. What I'm saying and what I think, what I think you're not quite catching
from my perspective, who watch your mouth? Watch Where I'm coming from is the fact that all the things that you just listed, all the stacks that you just talked about. They can go on a pancake. They can't go on a pancake. You've seen fruits on pancakes. You've seen you've seen you put peanut butter on a pancake. You can't. It's gonna rip. It's gonna rip. I've tried it so many times. If you get a good how if you got a nice quality peanut butter, Okay, it's gonna you're
trying to it's gonna rip. If you're trying to get that nice smooth spread, like spread them, read them, the pancakes running from the hills. Okay, it's not strong enough. It's gonna split. It's gonna shake right on and roll. It's not scroll enough. Okay, nothing to act like. You're not gonna sit here and tell me. It's my American Christian face that a pancake can with staying a good smooth spreading down. Because if it's not so hot that it melts the peanut butter, h then I'm telling it's
happen to me too many times. I love peanut butter on breakfast, breakfast, uh huh, I'm all. I'm saying is I think that you're underestimating the strength of a good pancake. I think you've been having tired pancakes. I think you've been having struggling pancakes. And I think that you've been
having weak pancakes. I think that's what's been happening. My thing is when you when you're in a situation that's precarious at breakfast, where you're like, hey, I want something sweet, I want just enough, I want to watch what I'm doing. I think a pancake is the way to go. Why do you need someone's control during your breakfast, Josh, because that you described getting pancakes, Say that again, say what
you need of the I need just enough? Like I I don't see a problem with any of these conditions, because for me, I feel like a pancake is indulgent, like getting like a stack of pancakes seems indulgent to me. It also like a stack of pancakes means you have nothing else to do today. No, no, no, not at all. Because a stack of two, a stack at three, if they're small, no statues three, it's a good side. No, a stack of pancakes is three, right, A stack can be too. I think I thought a side of pancakes
is too and a stack is three. I'll take your word for it that that sounds right to me. The internet will tell us. So you're saying that, I just always think of like pancakes being like a I don't think. I think I see pancakes as like a Sunday morning breakfast. I don't see pancakes as like get up, have this for breakfast, and then go to work. Yeah. I mean, I I feel like, as a kid, if I was having pancakes, I didn't really care what the rest of the day was about, but I knew that the day
was starting off right. And there were times I had pancakes before school and that was a fire. Okay, So in a full stack of pancakes, it's five according to a hop a short stack waffles? Do you get when you get waffles? Because we keep coming for the portions of pancakes. I'm just get one waffle. No one like you. I don't know how you eat two waffles you get. I can probably eat too. I don't know. Even two ago waffles seems wild to me. Um. Also, I'm not a fan, I'll say this. I'm not a huge fan
of bread in general. Wait a second, what what are you saying? What are you talking about? How many times in life have you seen me eat bread? I'm not saying I haven't like seen you eat I'm saying, I, how how are you not a fan? Because maybe the seventh ninth wonder of the world. People love bread so much. I love Croissance, and I feel like you're giving me conflicting feelings on bread right now, because you're telling me you love croissants, but that's the only bread that I like. Okay, okay,
got you, got you? And this is the other thing. I'm not a huge pasta person. Did you know why why pasta just went bread? See? When you say things like this upsetting, like like like this is not that's not okay to do to people. You know what you've done the soup, what you've done to pasta. Now, I didn't say that about super nicole by or no no, but you're you're you're trying to do one of these don't shoot the messengers things. It's a message you knew
I wouldn't like. All I'm saying is that pancakes give me a little bit too much. Ready, too ready, They're a little heavy for me. Mm hmm, not to say that a waffle is not heavy, because like I said this quick and one, but sometimes waffle mix is a little different and pancake mixed slightly. Let you're dealing with bis quick, you can make cigarette center roles bis Quick bis quacks versusile you know, broughtly. The best we've heard
in a while. I'm saying is so you're telling me that in a situation where you have the same batter, you would still rather that batter be turned into a waffle than a pancake. This is where we differ, and this is where I think to bring chaos to the conversation. What the hell chaos? Comment was chaos? This is This is not chaos. This is just a difference in opinion. You like your listen, you like your breakfast is flat chested, That's all this is. It wasn't just a look on
the face. It was the tongue in the cheek, like if you were a man that called women bitches because you didn't say nothing, but your face went bitch like is that my fault? You don't what your breakfast have titties. There's nothing to do with me. Look, just because I don't like my breakfast looking like the craters of the Dark side of the movie. You've never even seen that side. So tell me tell me any any like closing arguments about waffles, anythings that you want to add, as far
as like how you think they're superior to pancakes. You know, if this is the moment in the show where you want to admit that you were wrong and apologize to me, that's five wow. Wow. You think I'm glass set my mouth to apologize to you in this scenario, on the day that the Lord has made it is upon us, You'll think I've been to sit here as a good Christian woman and say to you, Hey, Josh Man, I'm sorry about saying that papas are better than pancakes. I
was living in the food's paradise. You got me fucked up. There is no before you said that last part. You did it. Before you said that last part, you were fully in it. You were doing a great job. It's
called acting. It's called acting. I was in here imitating the lies and the in the in the venom and the propaganda that you wanted to be to spread out here in this good American streets, These international ears of folks that are listening wherever they're listening, that somebody's in the train being like, man, Josh, sounds a wild to ask tools they to apologize for an opinion the own that's crazy? Talk crazy. I don't know how to say loco. I need to google more ways to say crazy. Because
you tried it. Try that. I'm not apologizing because I'm not doing nothing at all. I'm just saying that a fun breakfast bread that's giving you body, parents, giving you structure, that is an interactive little thing, because you can have fun with bottles. If you're somewhere that's like different, um, if you're somewhere that has different syrups, like a little different syrups in the cups you can put a little different fruits. What what they're gonna put different syrups in
the same good you have? You should know listen, you have pancakes, you have a waffle is broken into quarters, right, you know you don't have to go each individual cup. That's very confusing for your mouth and requires very intricate cutting. Right, And I'm not a butcher, so you could be like, okay, on this quarter, I'm gonna do regularly maple syrup on this corner. They got a strawberry syrup. I'm gonna trot
it over there in this corner, weighing it. You can, but you can make that you little peanut butter area. And then on the other side you could do like fruits or something, or maybe I like cream cheese on a waffle because I'm a ridiculous human band. But you can put like maybe some fruits over there, maybe like a mashed banana. I'm like, you can have so many options. You can have like fun little breakfast adventures. You know, maybe you want to put a little egg on top. Okay,
I don't know. I mean I mean, like like scrambled eggs, not like these running salmonilla eggs that everybody keeps trying to get me to eat. Right, No, no, it's fine. We we don't even have to no no, no, no, no no, You're like a nigg You like a running egg, don't you. I don't know. I don't need it running. I'm just saying that if I have to break the yoke and it's over easy and there's a little bit of running us, that's that's fine with me. So we're gonna pitch this
to you. The listener. Uh, you know, how do you feel about waffles? How do you feel about pancakes? Which one do you feel is superior? Okay? Now, which one do you know is superior? When you're talking about feelings, baby,
were talking about facts? Okay, you know what, because I've been to the pancake house and I've been to the waffle house, and you know what, the pancake house closed at three and the waffle house open it's twent at four hours, three sixty five five and hurricanes and national disasters. Or if you didn't think I was gonna mention Wilfe House for this during this, you got to carry damn mine. So feel free to reach out to us on the socials.
You can hit us up in the comments of the videos and the posts that we're gonna do about this. Let us know how you feel. Okay, if you're going to catch up, good parson. Okay, if you were looking to catch up with us, you can find DULs say Sloan on everything. As dults say sloan, it's most things, but not primary, not snap chet because I don't know if I still Tumbler, I don't know, are you still on tumb I mean on the ones that you use. That's that's how we find you. You know, yeah, Instagram.
I think we've all abandoned Facebook as a movement. As you know, we've all decided to stop arguing. So and if you're looking to catch up with me, you can find me at Joshohnson Comedy on just about Everything, TikTok YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, I just got Josh Johnson, so there was no need for the extra letters, but so confusing. We appreciate you, we appreciate listening, and we hope you have a great weekend filled with waffles or pancakes, whichever when you prefer Timagi. Oh,
this has been hold up. We've covered conscious rap versus club bangers, bar so versus body wash, diners versus waffle houses, all sorts of things. What else should we be talking about? We want to know from you. Let us know, drop us a comment or hit hold up on social at the day we show
