Nosy vs. Noisy Neighbors

we we hash it out here. We come to a conclusion. We see who's right and who's more right. You know, it's usually mean, it's usually me that's not true. But yeah, yeah, what we're discussing today on the podcast, we're not talking about, you know, the war, We're not talking about the rising housing prices. We're talking about loud neighbors versus nosy neighbors. This is where I'm at. This is where I personally land on the side of wanting nosy neighbors as opposed

to loud neighbors. M hmm, okay, I feel like you You've mentioned I feel like in the past that you'd rather loud neighbors the nosy neighbors. Well, this is the thing. Nosy neighbors, loud neighbors. And I'm not I'm not a cock caala, you know what I mean. I'm not a cop calla. I don't play calling the cops. But I think with loud neighbors there is a like, if it gets to a certain point, you can like tell the building. Again, I'm not a snitch either, but if you're acting or real, donkey,

I'm gonna say something right. So like with super loud neighbors, there's always like a course of action that you can take to at least get them to chill the hell out. Because the thing is, it's like if you have loud neighbors, it's not just you saying something like. Things can be done, actions can be taken, People can get kicked out. With nosy neighbors, it's someone always popping their head out of

the door whenever they hear another door open. It's somebody standing by the talking to the male man for too long, or hey, I saw you got a package or that, and I'm like, bro, first of all, get the funk up out my business first and foremost, this is the person who's looking at who's coming in and out of your house, right. And I have like a lot of male friends because I'm a female comics, so most of

my friends, like most of my friends aren't men. And so if I have like if you come over and hang out and then Ben comes over and hangs out in the same week, what the hell is this neighbor gonna think? You see what I'm saying. It's like, well, one came over, then the other one came over. Now they're both over. Oh goodness, what kind of life is? And I'm like, bitch, first of all, get some business.

So what I'm hearing is that what you don't like about the nosiness outside of just the of surface level uncomfortableness, is that nosy people are usually just pretty lonely. It's just it's just a loneliness manifesting its nosiness because you could be nosy and have you know, a full family in the house. Okay, knows he don't mean lonely. Nos he just means knows it. Nosey means like it's you don't have no business of your own. Yeah, yeah, like your mind and mind because you ain't got no business

to money yawn. So I'm not gonna lie. I personally feel like nosiness rather than loud, like, you know, nosy versus noisy. I'm gonna go with nosy every time because I'm a pretty boring dude. So then they're not gonna get anything. They're not gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna bore the hell out of a nosy person. Nosy isn't coming for me, oh no. But the thing is nos he

doesn't care. There Eventually nosy just to know. It's like, okay, you have a dog, right, yeah, So now every time they see they're gonna be pressed that what's he doing with this dog where you know they haven't walked him in a while. Well, you know, his girlfriend's out of town. I hope everything like it's even though you'd have to be by yourself, never leave your house and receiving no packages for a nosy person to not be involved at all.

Plus they live in an apartment building and live in a neighborhood, right, so they're looking for any any piece of information is information that they want because when they see because also nosy people have petendency to talk to everybody because they want to know what the tea is. So they're gonna ask, oh, well what do you do it? So they're just building a case. So then it's like, oh, well have you taken the dog? Well, oh, I see y'all got a new dog, or y'll been getting a

lot of packages, like like what's going on? Like, well, when you're gonna have kids? Well maybe that's like it's all it doesn't matter, like you, to be a boring person means that you live alone, you have no pets, and you don't engage with the nosy person. Okay, So on the scale of one to ten at this moment in time and the conversation, how would you say you rank your feeling of wanting a loud neighbor versus a nosy neighbor? Is it like seven A? They're both they're

both on want I want neither neighbor. I want neither person. If you had to pick, though, if you had to pick, well, the thing about a loud neighbor is how are they loud? That's the thing I'm talking loud as a structure of being in life. So we're talking about loud hookups, loud music. Maybe they practice drums and they're not very good. We're talking about all the loud, oh nosy every time, because wow, wow every time, because it's like the people. It's like

somebody down the hall. They have a dog, and every time they leave, I guess when they don't talk, tie the dog up. The dog barks by the front door, and I'm just like, first of all, put your dog away.

I know you have multiple bedrooms in your apartment, like I know you do your multiple bedrooms in your apartment, you have a balcony, Like, there's other things that can happen with this dog that doesn't include that dog barking for an hour's by the front door, disrupting the other people on the floor, Like, do something with your dog. But since I'm not a snitch and it's not that loud, I don't say anything because at the end of the day, the dog doesn't know that it's being a nuisance dog.

Don't just being a dog. No, I I get what you mean. I get I get what you're saying. I I did not expect. I thought you would deal dig your heels way harder than you actually did. Now that we're really on the same side, because I'm I'm at about a seven where I'd rather nosey versus noisy, just because I will say an oozy neighbor might just save your life. You know, I'm falling, I'm old. I felt nosy neighbor is gonna be like, I haven't seen them in a little while. Let me call somebody. Loud neighbor

won't even notice. A loud neighbor will be like, man, nobody's called the cops all us in a while, thank god. Um. Yeah, because I have my other building that I lived in, someone did pass away. Oh No. The craziest thing about that is what I was telling my mom about it. Something fell off my wall and I was like, oh, we're not doing this in here. It was the craziest thing. W I was in my apartment one day and I saw, like, you don't just like those regular like big house flies. Yeah.

I was like, fun, did these flies? What's happening? I was like, I saw like one or two, and I was like, did I leave a window open or whatever? And then I pulled the curtain back and there were forty fucking flies trying to get out of the window. And it was crazy. Your girl upstairs, so you know

Beth that works at the office. The way that they found out that something was wrong was there is another girl that she's friends with on the floor, was just looking out of her window and her apartment, and she saw a bunch of flies on the window of that apartment and called men and called the super and the super was too afraid to go inside, and then the wife went inside. I just feel like you're building needed

some nosier people. That that's that's what I'm hearing right now. Well, that's what the That's how that girl figured it out because she was just looking at her window. She's like, hey, Because he was a very quiet man, he kept to himself. But at one point she was like, why are there all these flies on this one window? Beth was telling me there was like a smell in her apartment and she didn't know what it was. And the one day we both come home from work and I'm just like,

why is an ambulance here? I left and came back. They were therefore fucking hours wild. What's the loudest neighbor you've ever had? M M. Do you ever even even if this was a hotel, because you know, being on the road, you have to travel and stuff. It's just it's always sex or an argument like this. Either. I love a good argument. That's that's when I hope my neighbors will be loud, because maybe I'm not nosy enough to be nosy, but I'm nosy enough to be messy.

So then when somebody's near me at it's it's very loud. Oh oh, it's amazing. That's I haven't I've never really hurt. I've never lived anywhere where I could hear a really good argument. I rarely hear arguments. I heard arguments on the street, but like those don't count when I'm like, I've never had it where it was like, oh, I'm worried about this person. Come to Chicago. Chicago has some

fin walls, all right. I once heard the full on argument top to bottom, and then the makeup sex, and and then honestly, the makeup sex was worse than here in the argument because my man had no rhythm. We're talking about plot PLoP PLoP PLoP, Like just I was like, what are you doing in there? You need help? It might have been with the argument. What was the argument about the argument? I think, okay, I think it was about some petty cash. I think it was like they

had spent some money that was like communal. This is our like piggy bank. Money, and then one of them spent it. But then it was like the whole point was to spend it. Honestly, don't know who I sided with in the argument, but it it got petty real fast. It got like, well, you know, because you let your dad live with us for so long, now we all our last And I was like, okay, oh no, oh. What I love about hearing an argument through a wall is that you have to you have to choose your side.

You have to choose who you're like, all right, I think I think this is the person that I'm into. Then you also have to choose as the development happens, what you feel like is the best h the best argument. Yeah, it's like the best course of action for the side that you've picked. So one time I was just chilling right and there was this there was this guy that was yelling at his roommate and the roommate was was like, hey, no, it's not my turn or whatever. It's like, of course

it's your turn. It's always your turd because you'd never do it. And they were arguing about the dishes, all right. But then as I as I learned more about this this uh roommate situation, it was just funny because the one that always does the dishes apparently wasn't doing anything else, and so it was like, all right, but I've Q and it's like, all right, we'll vacuum up some dishes because you never do the dishes. And it was it got it got to the point where it stopped being

about the dishes. Like you know, every every roommate situation is lightly it's like married. It's like diet marriage, you know, because you're not even involved, but you're you're stuck together for the term of this lease. And I don't know, I've just watched, I've watched and heard a lot of great, great arguments through a wall like it. Actually, it's one of those things where when you're broke and you're living like that, it's one of life's few pleasures. Well, you're like, hey,

this is a bad apartment. I'm not living well right now, this is a bad situation. But you know what's brightening my day these loudass neighbors. Sometimes it was happening while I was trying to get sleep. So I still go nosy over over loud every time, but every once while you were just here, like what's the best way to put it, it's like for me, it's just funny when when a man's voice cracks, all right, it's one of

those things where it's like it's like a helly grown man. Yeah, he had that base, and he might even be right. That's the worst part. You might even be right in all of your anger and your assumptions and everything's going on. You you fully correct, but now that your voice is cracked, you have lost credibility. It's like it's and you can feel it happened. So there was one time I was laying and this is why I was on air mattress. I was not I was not having a good life.

You know, I've been on an air mattress before my first Uh, when I first moved to New York. When I first got my first department in New York, I had an air mattress. That's because I didn't have And then I moved to New York with like three suitcases and never any furniture, and I had one of those good like double decker, like thick, expensive air mattresses, like you can put two people. You got sax on that air mattress, like it was a high quality. Yeah, no,

I'm with you. It's just you went on that one quality, you know, so I already have to basically put myself in a slight coma to get to sleep right, and then through the walls, I just feel like, oh, it's not going down like that. No, no, no, no, no, it's just a bunch of nas, which is also how you can tell someone in an argument can't think of the next thing. They just remember that baseline is no. My position is no. I must say no until I think of another point. But no, no, no, no, no, y'all,

y'all wrong for that. You're wrong for that, And then think it means that he's usually in the wrong, Like if I hear a man saying, no, it's not going down like that, now, y'allly going on like this, ning is wrong. Whatever is happening, he is wrong. I love a good I'm not going out like that, because it's such a dramatic sentence. Yeah, I'm not going out like that. I'm like, this isn't No one comes back to the end of training day, right, It's like the end of

training day. This is not the end of Like, this is not the maxtic scene of a movie. This is not a drug deal. That could go wrong in any minute. You're just arguing about you probably got got caught cheating, or you didn't do something you were supposed to do, like the whole na no, no, oh oh oh, so that's how you're gonna do me. If I hear that's how you're gonna do me. It's not going down like that. Oh oh so what you're trying to say what I said,

ding dong. You're fucking wrong, bro. I'm not having a lot of your start with. Oh, I feel most of what you over here is oh like, if I hear an argument Atlanta, oh oh oh oh, so that's what we're doing. That's what we're doing. That's how y'all gonna do me. That's how y'all gonna do me. And like, I know you're wrong. No, you're wrong, you're not saying nothing. Wow, that's how y'all gonna do Yes, that's how we're going

to do you, bro. Like it's if I hear certain sentences when I hear an argument, especially if a man is in an argument with whoever, If I hear, wow, so that's how you're gonna treat a black man? You were dead fucking wrong for dead fucking I don't care what happened. He wasn't supposed to take out the trash, or he had a baby that his girl didn't know about. I'm telling you that niked is wrong. He is dead.

Asked wrong? Oh or wow A good long while, we'll do it because in this situation, the guy was like no, no, no no, and then and then I heard some other murmuring because the other person wasn't meaning as loud. I also think he was positioned too close to the wall and out of nowhere. My man is like, who are you talking to? And it was it was like you could tell he got so upset that at the who he lost the base and he couldn't find it again, like like the base was avoiding him until he got

to the two and the two was too much. The two was like two, well, who are you talking to? One is one of my favorite phrases in black them right, who you're talking to means I know you're not talking to me. Basically, I love it when it's black women do when they go who are you talking to? As it's a legitimate question, like you're talking to you, there's no way. And my favorite is who are you talking and then the look up. I love. The look around is a the look around. I've done it. I've done it.

I'm sorry. Who who are you talking to? I'm it's like you've been talking to You're It's a legitimate question because there's no fucking way this human being is talking. I've said it. I know you're not. I know you're not talking to me. I know you're not talking to me. Who else? Who else is here? Who are you talking to? Clearly I've made the mistake of standing in between you

at whoever you're trying to disrespect. Right now, full taxi driver, I want to have another quick check in because things took a turn early in the episode where I'm realizing now that even though we started out in the position of noisy versus nosy, you've you've quickly come over to my side of nosy over noisy, and I just want to see if you still feel that way at this point in the episode. To be fair, I hate them both, but if I had to make this devil's choice, it

was nosy all along. It was it was like well loud, only because once I got the parameters of what the loud was, Yeah, yeah, yeah, then I can't be on board. I gave me on board at all, because now that I know that this this person is going to be making every noise humanly possible, there has to be effort being put into this amount of noise. Like you can't cook this loudly, you can't talk this loudly. Everything you do, like that's cartoon level. That's cartoon level. You're walking loud,

you're talking loud everything this is. You're being a fucking menace as of that point, you're just doing it for the sake of being disruptive. No one exists out a volume that everyone can hear at all times. That's not even how humans work, Like that's insane. I think that there are people who are unintentionally loud neighbors because I've lived in places where it felt like the roof was

gonna cave in because I heard every footstep. My upstairs neighbors used to like vacuum loudly every Friday, which was confusing because we had wood floors, So I was like, maybe they have rugs, But if there were rugs, it would soak up the sound. It would soak up the sound. So you are loudly vacuuming and It was like just vacuuming pebbles hard every Friday, like midday on Friday, which was fine, except that I would record, like the cartoon

that I do Great North. We were recording on Friday's, so depending on what time they vacuum, and I'm like what they're like, Oh, we're hearing something. They had My upstairs neighbor is vacuuming on hardwood floor. They don't own a broom, all right, This vacuum has been the family for a very long time. This is a Dison family was no dison it. This was a hoover. This is original. Yes,

this was remember being the loudest things like. It's like it's like, I understand the animals were afraid of these, but like human children are also afraid of these loud aspects. They were so loud. It's like, prove to me, this won't eat me. Yeah, I'm free, What do I know? I'm ten. This still seems like a problem for the listener who may have landed on the other side of where we are. I do have to offer up that a nosy neighbor can still take you to a place

that you're so angry. You don't you don't even really understand why it's It's where things become so petty, you know, like when you have that neighbor that just moves your trash can and you're like, why did you do that? It's not a thing that should even affect your day, but if they do it enough, you're ready to snap. I feel like nosy people have that level of effect.

It's that metal some kind of like not minding your business, kind of like you ever been somewhere in a white person who just would randomly pop up and be like, Hey, what are you doing? And I'm just like, the funk are you? Uh? I don't know how many times that has happened to me, but I can see it being very Franks. I've been places and just be like, hey, what are you up? Something like what do you want? Do you go? No, I'm not telling you nothing while

I just wondering y'all like you're having fun? No, bitch, move you don't. That's not what you're here for. You want to know what three niggas is? Where you at? Move? No, it's the same concept, or it's just like, oh, you just moved in. What's going on? And it's like the whole concept of like bringing over Like uh, it's like, oh, we just brought over a like castle roll or whatever, and like, first of all, I'm not I don't know,

you're not eating your food. Um, I feel like wait, I feel like we're crossing it to a territory of just people. Think. No, no, no, no, no, you do not understand the original intent of that. Oh, hey, welcome to the neighborhood. They want to see what your house looks like. They want to see how many people are in your house. And let's say you decorated the it's too be nosy. They don't know you're welcome you to the neighborhood to find out who you are, what you do,

who lives over here. So when they established what the baseline of humans is over here, then when anybody who's not in a bit, let's like okay, well it's a husband and a wife, or it's uh, you know, two husbands. Whatever. If you see Bobby and Jim every day and you know Bobby done left on the trip and Jim got somebody else coming over, well we notice that's not where what's well, you know Bobby always a Bobby wou To suit case. Somebody said he was going on going on

in business trip for a couple of days. Well why do you see it? And it's that so now I know. So that's how you create the nosy neighbor in a neighborhood, like like you know, because people on apartments don't come check and see how you that's not it's an apartment, but like in a house, you know, you want to see who's around, what's popping, who's doing what? You wanna

make sure that you know, foolish just going on. So the original intent of the hey, welcome to the neighborhood is to find out what the hell is going on at your house and how to judge you accordingly for it got you. So the thing that might be a bit difficult is that the same way, the same process of being like a new nosy neighbor is also kind of similar to becoblic a new for it it's like

is dangerously close. It's like like if you just moved in and I want to be your friend, and I don't know you and I don't even know what you do, but I'm like, oh, maybe I want to be friends with this person. I think I have to like come over with some sort of welcome gift, and I think I have to, like, you know, invite you to stuff and like, yeah, but you don't know how to. But so say you want to come over developed friendship. I you know, you have to both be interested to be friends.

So if it doesn't pop off, if there's no chemistry there but one of you doesn't get it, you keep coming over. Now you just nosing. Well, look, I I'm glad that we have come to this. I think I feel like this is like one of the first times we really really agreed on something that I did not see this coming. At least with a nosy neighbor. I can go in my house and then it's done. With a loud neighbor. Their lifestyle isn't isn't what's the word

I'm trying to say, is invading my home? Like I don't live in your house, but I hear the noise in your house, So it's like you don't pay rent here, So take your sounds music, take the noise tape, the argument. I don't know, y'all. I don't want to be involved. I don't want to involved. I don't want to be involved, and get out of my house. I feel, well, thank you so much. For listening to Hold Up. We're here every week, we drop every Thursday. We bring new topics

every time, and I appreciate you being here toils. I appreciate that for once we really came to us. This is never like just so you know, as listeners, I don't know what episode this is gonna be or anything, but this hasn't happened before now and even just in our friendship. It's very rare that me and you both are just like yep, when you take when you gave me the uh, the whole spectrum of of auditory assault that can be done, and I was like, I gotta

be out. I gotta because the nosy neighbor has to see you to be nosy allowed neighbors never solved to murder. They've never helped in an investigation. They know the least they were like, I didn't see anything. I didn't hear anything either, right, but it nosy neighbor knows well. She always comes home around two in the morning from work, and then you can come home. Nosy neighbors accounts hold

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