Welcome back everyone . In today's video we're talking about how to navigate complex employee relations with HR consultant Ricky Baez . Ricky , how are you ?
I'm doing good . Pete Ready for this .
Awesome . Well , let's just start at the top . Ricky , can you give me a brief overview of what employee relations actually means , if you ?
ask 50 people in a room what does HR and employee relations mean ? You're going to get 50 different answers right , but at the end of the day , here's what employee relations is .
In any organization , in order for a business to be successful , they need employees , and every employee has a heart , they have a spirit , they have a different personality that may or may not mesh with other personalities out there , so you're going to need a professional to be in there and making sure not that you change people's perceptions of each other , but at
the very least give an understanding of what it means to be respectful at work , knowing what you can and can do at work and knowing what kind of resources and tools you have to make your life better at work . At the end of the day , that's what employer relations is .
Thanks , Ricky . Well , talk to me about some common challenges employers face when navigating employer relations and how to best address them .
Organizations need human beings to succeed and if you have one human being working with another , we are going to have some issues where there's differences of opinion , differences of understanding , differences in communicating and different points of view on established norms , rules and regulations , right .
So some of the challenges that we would face is some of these differences that these employees may have could get in the way of productivity . Right , and , at the end of the day , for especially for-profit organizations , that becomes into an issue .
So you want to make sure you've got the right people in place from an HR perspective , the right rules and the right people managing those rules , to make sure everybody at work are able to exhibit who they are as an individual but , at the same time , be on the same team when it comes to making sure that the organization attacks X goals , whatever goals they
may have for the quarter .
Now , that's an interesting way to phrase it . You mentioned people being able to exhibit their own personality , but where do you draw the line ? Or maybe , how do you balance the need for empathetic understanding with strategic decision making based on the needs of the company ?
And that's the tough part , right . This is the part that I believe machines cannot do . You need human beings to take into account other people's feelings , other people's points of views and the rules and regulations of the organization .
And it's a delicate dance , Pete right , Because everybody's different Employee relations from person A can be very different than person B , person C , person D .
And what HR professionals and leaders need to be an expert at doing is to make sure , whatever issues are happening in the organization , you fix them or you help solve them in a way that is a perfect balance of the employee gets what he or she wants and the organization still gets to make money with the relationship that the organization has with the employee .
That's the difficult part , that delicate dance , and you have to have a really particular set of skills not to sound like that guy from the movie Taken , but you do have to have a particular set of skills to be able to do that successfully .
Well , a lot of what we see in the country today . Ricky is pretty divisive , we know that , and it's an election year which adds up the intensity even more . We know that . Do you have any advice for companies on how to navigate , let's just say politics , since it's such a prevalent issue right now ?
It's important to set the tone . Part of a leader's job is to set the tone for the organization right , and here's what I mean by that . If the leader can go in front of an organization , like in a town hall , it's just everyday work , that other people can see what he or she does .
It is important to let everybody know that , yes , you have the freedom of speech to express who your favorite candidate is , but you have to be able to do it in a way that's respectful .
You have to do it in a way that you can get along with other people and , at the end of the day , we have to do it in a way that it does not disrupt business operations . That's the part that's important . It doesn't get in the way of the organization making money and conducting business .
It is just business , but clearly these days , people want to be heard too . Now you're part of some large HR organizations and associations . How prevalent is this right now ? How talked about is it ? Or is the workplace pretty much immune from this and it's kind of limited to social media ?
Oh , my God , I wish that was the case . I really wish the big word that's being thrown around right now and Sherm just had a huge conference last month right , the big , big word is civility .
Civility , and a couple of months ago I was a host of the Jacksonville Shrimp Conference and I had the opportunity to interview the former kicker for the Jaguars , josh Gobi , and he says something that stuck with me . It really did .
He says I don't understand why people feel compelled to be ugly to each other these days , and I thought that was profound because , to me , that hit me , because I'm like you know what . We're going through another political cycle . People are at each other's throats and we don't stop to think about why do we think it's okay to do that ?
Why do we think it's okay to put somebody down ? Why do we think it's okay to do all these things ? And if we could just take a step back ? Right , and here's what I tell all of my leaders If you're having an issue with the office , your goal is to lower the temperature . Your goal is not to escalate .
Your goal is to take a step back , have everybody take a breather and then have a conversation amicably . Folks remember , human beings are always going to be human beings . They're not always going to be perfect , so some people are going to snap . They're not always going to be perfect , so some people are going to snap .
Right , and you just have to be ready for that and be ready to nurture , whatever happens , in a way that the employee knows never to do that again and at the same time , business continues . So lots of patience is what I'm advising people , and de-escalate a situation . Regardless on how you feel about it . You should not escalate a situation any further .
Well , let's get a little specific if possible , because that's great general advice , but without naming names . Can you provide an example of a particularly complex employee relations issue you've navigated and strategies you could recommend to others ?
So back when I used to work for a Fortune 500 company , christmas time was always the time that I'm like ah , here we go , because it was a call center of 1,400 employees . So obviously you got people who follow Christmas , you get people who don't , you get people who celebrate different things .
So as soon as the holiday spirit starts to happen around the call center , a Christmas tree comes up . So here comes the people who don't believe complaining why do we have to see that ? What does that have to be seen ? What's going on ? And then you have the people who have a different faith , right .
So , like Jehovah's Witness , how come they can do that and we can't do this ? So it's a matter of listening to what they have to say , because as soon as people see something come up that other people are allowed to do , that they are against .
They think it's a matter of just sitting down , listening to the employee , listening to their concern , because nine times out of 10 , once you listen to what they have to say , that's all they needed . They just wanted to be heard .
So in the example of Christmas , when somebody complains , how come they get to get a Christmas up and I can't , I'm like nobody's saying you can't have a Christmas tree ? Oh , okay , then put a Christmas tree up , right , I had one guy and Pete . This is a hundred percent true , a hundred percent true Ever seen Seinfeld .
Of course , somebody wanted to bring a pole and they wanted to celebrate Festivus , right ? And they did this whole thing . For now I'm not going to lie , he was making fun of the whole thing . He really was right . But other people started complaining because he's saying this is the real Christmas and other people like , no , this is it .
So I'm like , look , here's what we need to do . This guy has every right to celebrate whatever religious affiliation . Whether you agree with it or not , he can celebrate it . Folks , you can have this discussion , we can have this conversation . What we cannot do is let it get in the way of productivity .
What we cannot do is let it get in the way of productivity as soon as it gets in the way of employees producing or , even worse , some other employee who's not involved in this conversation not has to hear this crap people going back and forth for that person for that reason . That's when HR steps in and puts a stop to it .
Here's what I don't want HR people to do to just stop people from celebrating anything at all , which is a mistake , right , it's a reaction the other way , because then what are you going to have then ? Orwell was right back in the book 1984 we're just going to be people , machines in a cubicle , working monday to friday , nine to five .
If you want your employees to continue working , if you want your employees to continue showing up to work on monday morning , you've got to give them an environment where they're comfortable to be themselves .
So make sure you allow employees to celebrate Christmas , kwanzaa , whatever the case may be , so long as the parameters are in set , where it's done respectfully .
So , ricky , we've hit the two big ones politics , religion right , covering the basis here . Now there's a third that my mom always said growing up , do not bring up in mixed company , and you know what that is Dog breeds . Don't talk about dog breeds , because everyone will defend their favorite as strongly as anything else .
So there we have it Politics , religion , dog breeds , hr challenges for sure . Is there anything else you'd like to share on employee relations before we wrap up ? That'll help everyone listen in .
We talked about the political year and look it's . We have to expect for it to get ugly . So please , if you're a leader out there right now and if you're having a conversation or it's just if you lead other employees , start having the civility conversation now . Be proactive about it . Don't wait until something happens and then have a meeting .
Start having these conversations now . You don't necessarily have to address the political factor , but you just have to address how people need to be respectful at work , because there's a really fine line Pete between being animated about something and being insulting about something . So we have to know what that difference is .
So my advice is be patient with employees , let them know what a respectful work environment is . Do it proactively and , last but not least , yorkies are the best breed of dogs .
Well , clearly it's springer Spaniel , Ricky , and I think we can all agree on that . We can't agree on a lot , but I think everyone would agree Springer Spaniel is the best breed . You're with me on that right ?
Nope , Absolutely not no . Yorkies are the best .
All right . Well , we're going to end the video , say goodbye for now . Thanks for listening . We're going to go fight off camera , but if you have questions , we'd love to hear them and we can answer here . So leave us a comment on employee relations and we'll see you soon . Have a good one , folks .
