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Yes , indeed , yo , t2, . What's up Cousins , what's up ? Salute everybody in the chat . Like subscribe thumbs up . Simple as that . Like subscribe , thumbs up . Let's get everybody in the chat . How you guys are feeling , how you guys are feeling , how you guys are feeling out there . It's a Thursday evening , about to wrap up the week .

You know my boss is from Cali . You know , every time I talk about Cali , I tell you like don't play with Cali dudes . You know , every time I talk about Cali I tell you like don't play with Cali dudes . What's been going on at work the past week is why you don't mess with Cali dudes . My Cali boss has been on some Cali shit . It's not a game .

He's the part of Cali C .

Pro oh he's . Yeah , he's from Cali . Cali , he's from LA , he's from Englewood . Watts yeah , it's Watts , he's from the land , he's well-known . I've already said too much . Next topic yeah .

I hope he's not watching this .

You know why he hired me . He followed me on social media and he saw that I was always posting positive stuff and spending time with my daughter . So the first time he sat me down , he's like you know , I checked you out . It's like , yeah , he's like I went through your social media , you know just kind of see who you were .

I always tell AG that like , be careful what you post .

I know you're not talking about me . We're talking about you . When I say that we're talking about you , we're not talking about AG oh man , like I'm like ghost .

Like I'm like ghost on social media . I'm like ghost . I got like an alter ego out there . I got people doing that for me .

We have conversations with you , so that makes us afraid for you . You have to understand .

I'm just here to support , I'm just here to support . Safe place . Yeah , safe place , safe place .

That's all it is Sometimes , sometimes , sometimes .

Yo yo AG how we feeling in West Virginia . Man , what's the weather out there in the mountains ?

It's already started .

You know what , sean ? I'm not even going to entertain you today , man , I want to get to the proceedings at hand . This is a big episode for us . This is number 20 , right .

Yes , it is episode 20 .

Yeah , big deal , big deal .

Yes , hey , real quick before we go . So I was thinking about my Liberals mixtape with the records that I dropped next week . First of all , I'd like to add a bonus track . Ok , kamala Harris performing back down by 50 cent , back by the House of Representatives in the Senate and the whole liberal caucus . They're all going to be back , give me a heads up .

This is what I mean when I said it's a safe place sometimes .

The House of Representatives is going to be in the back . They're going to be in the back .

Cheat you oh my God , yeah , give me a heads up , bro . You should have just said you're going to say this .

I was thinking Gangsta Grizzles could host the mixtape and we call it the Liberal Strike Back . Yeah , oh , my goodness , yeah .

All right , now we can start the show . Bonus track Back down . Let's start the show . Yo , t2 , I would definitely let Coop know . Coop , you got a challenge out there . T2 wants to go rap album . We can go track for track against Good Kid Mad City and get the fans to vote . So we do have a station here , t2 . I posted in the chat last week .

See , this is what I mean . First of all , you shouldn't play with me like that T2 . Because I mean , off the top of my head , I thought to myself well , I can beat you with Supreme Clientele . I can beat you with my beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy . I might even be able to beat you with B by Common . I'm definitely beating you with Get Rich or Die , trying .

Pause . Are we gonna do it ? We can do that .

Oh yeah , he can Hold on . Good Kid Mad City like 13 tracks . Like nigga , I beat you with Liquid Swords , probably Damn . Just come and Slap the shit out of you with some real 90s hip hop .

T2 , we'll set it up . Send us a message , we'll get it set up what if I play ?

Enter the Wu-Tang you have no answer for that , I'm gonna that's wild .

Even just sending the open challenge like that , because it was like Kid Mad City versus any album , that's kind of wild , that is kind of wild .

We'll see , let's do it . Let's do it , let's set it up . I don't want to do that . Yo , t2, . I'll hit you up on the side , bro , and we can get that set up for you .

Beat you with it Was Written . Beat you with it Was Written . Beat you with it Was Written . 13 tracks Slap this .

He ain't beating , it Was Written . That's a cheat code . That's a cheat code . So , fellas , let's get to it . Let's get to it . Shit is lagging like crazy . Let's get to it . Aj , I'm going to kick it to you . We got Snoop , snoop , d-o-double , the D-O-double . The Olympics kickoff tonight . Fellas and Snoop is going to be the actual uh , what is it ?

Snoop is . You know , I don't even know if it's arguable

No , that's real .

Yeah , for real , snoop is everywhere , man and um , he's , he's . Over the years he's become , you know , an icon , an ambassador for hip-hop , and I think that we had a discussion about his music , um , a few episodes ago . Uh , where he gets a lot of leniency on his catalog .

Snoop man . He's our biggest , brightest star really . So you know , I love your acumen , ag . It always reminds me and gives me a reason to kind of look at things differently and think about things differently . I thought to myself how ironic that the Olympics have enough , you know , like funny in them to make Snoop Dogg the torchbearer . I think about it .

and then the irony of it , coop . Uh , I remember seeing an interview where snoop was talking about he was um real shot and didn't want to be in front of the camera when they were shooting g thing . And like he said , if you look back and notice you know .

They practice a little thing that we like to call a respect , the check .

Yeah , if there's a check involved . You won't catch one of them there , for sure .

Where's Sean at , so we can move to the next topic . Yeah , I agree . Excited for Snoop , happy for Snoop , happy for Snoop and Braun .

Yeah , I think Sean was lagging a little bit , but me and Sean had a conversation behind the scenes .

Sean's always lagging . We've been carrying it . What are you talking ?

about . Yeah , but me and Sean had a conversation behind the scenes and he hit me up and he was talking about , like you know , a lot of Snoop's albums Did crazy numbers and he don't get the credit For some of those albums Because I think Doggy Style Is such a big shadow . I mean R&G , rhythm and Gangsta .

So that's a major thing . Did you count one of those albums ? What's that ? Did the Chronic ?

count one of those albums .

What's that ? Did the Chronic or the Chronic 2001 count ?

No , they didn't even count those . So if you count , if you look at that , you probably look at his contributions . You could really say he has nine .

What is the Chronic in 2001 without Snoop Dogg ?

Exactly , exactly .

Yep , Look not two of the best rap albums ever that you've heard .

Are you right ? Ten rappers walking around with that many platinum albums . Snoops did major numbers throughout his whole career .

Are there five ?

The list consisted of . Jay-z was in double digits . He led the list , I don't know , it was like 15 , 16 , something like that , um , when they counted the collab records too um uh , pause , pause .

So you're being that .

They counted his collab records but didn't give snoop the chronic and from what I remember , from what I remember , I don't think they listed those for snoop . I have to go back . I have to go back and check because , like for ice cube , they counted like straight out of compton those sorts of things or whatever .

Where was ll on the list ? Where's ?

ll was on the list . Yeah , my fault , I forgot about l ? Um . You know I'd have to bring it back up and see , but it wasn't . You know more than 10 rappers with , like you know , over a handful of platinum albums today . You know , under their belt it was . It was a dope list , though Iconic status , longevity numbers .

They don't lie supposedly .

Yeah , putting numbers on the board .

Sorry fellas , Can y'all hear me ?

Yeah , you good bro .

Sorry about that . I wanted to make sure no more lagging . I had to change computers . Man , it's crazy out here YouTube , shout out to YouTube .

This fancy Negro . I had to change computers right quick .

A little subtle flex .

That's not a subtle flex . He's like I pulled out a new MacBook . That's not a flex .

That's wild . Did you look at that list I sent you ? I think TI might have been on that list . It was a couple other cats on there , but Snoop's done major numbers over the years , man .

Yeah , he deserves it . Y'all said it . I don't want to rehash what you guys eloquently put , but he deserved to carry the torch man Honestly . At the end of the day , snoop is a businessman , he's an industry man . The way he transformed his career Don't forget this guy was on a murder trial .

Real quick . Tupac was in double digits on that list , but a lot of them joints was posthumous albums too . He was high up . We don't talk enough about .

He only got to make five albums .

We don't talk a lot about Snoop in regards to the top MCs . Where do y'all personally have Snoop Like top 20 , 25 , 30 ? When it talks about MCs ?

I feel like he has to be in the top 20 . That's fair , like , has to be . It's a must have Because here's the thing , he's the only person , and then we need to slide to the next a must have because here's the thing , he's the only person and then we we need to slide to the next topic he has .

You know , I think they're way differently though . Coop , what do you think of ? You know , I agree with your sentiment , but I think nobody's asking Snoop to recreate Doggy Style , where Nas constantly gets hounded to try to top , or recreate Illmatic .

See , that's where I think we disagree . I think people have been asking Snoop to make doggy style too for a long time . He just you know . So connect the tissue to what Sean said .

You get what I'm saying , yeah , yeah , I'm with you Coop freezing now .

Yes , you too , man Shout out to you too . Yeah , Coop , you're freezing up now .

Yeah , coop , might you're freezing up now ? Yeah , coop , might have to hop back in while we go to the next topic .

Yeah , so , coop , you froze . We're going to go ahead and move to the next topic .

And that West Virginia Wi-Fi is killing y'all right now . Bro , you know what I'm saying ? Y'all ain't got the bandwidth in West Virginia . That's crazy . That's because West Virginia .

That's crazy . That's because West Virginia doesn't have YouTube , so they can't really mess with West Virginians . That's what y'all said . West Virginians , that's what they call y'all West Virginians . Yeah , yeah , he about to come back . While Coop get it right , shout out to YouTube again . They have been messing up the stream today .

30% off the head . You know how I feel about YouTube . I've been flagged like a linebacker playing for the Saints during Bounty Game . You know what I'm saying . There's all types . I've been flagged so many times .

Shout out to YouTube 30% off the head , we love y'all . This is a shit , I mean so many times . Shout out to you two 30% off their head , we love y'all .

Piece of shit Worse than rap label owners . Dude Anyone , 30% off , rip and then they'll flag your money and fuck with your money . If you say something they don't like Like , I don't like you two .

You don't like that Copyright . Nah , but anyway , I'm up there and go for an attention shout out to jar my man , j-saw . We got to get J-Saw on the show . J-saw is a rapper out of Vegas got some heat . He's working on some stuff . He let me listen to some stuff earlier today . J-saw is a truth , so he got some heat coming up .

man , y'all learn .

See you soon , history will tell . Tell . First of all , queens , get the money , let me get that out the way . Get that , let's get that out the way real quick . So , age , I will start with you , man . What do you think about l man ? What is that message telling ?

yo ll staying on brand man ll been braggadocious for 40 years . Why stop now ? That's who he is .

Yes .

You know what I mean . And he's ultra competitive man , like probably one of the most competitive rappers we got in the space , like top two or three . If I'm being honest , like the L is that guy man . I'm really looking forward to the new album and I think he's going to bring something special .

You seen it ? What do you think , Coop ? What does that message tell you ? What does that message tell you from L ? How do you feel about that ?

He has the confidence of a man that's been doing this longer and at a higher level than everybody else at the same time , because he has been , he is who I thought he was . He's been a legend since he was a teenager . He's in his 50s . He is still a legend and , judging from the music that I'm hearing , it's making some pretty dope ass rap music in 2024 .

That's a fact . That's a fact .

He talks his best shit when he has a good product , and so him talking this way makes me excited for the product , quite frankly , because I'm like , oh , this is the guy that was made Mr Smith and Mama Said , Knock you Out Bigger and Defer . It's like , oh , okay , If he's that guy .

Hit-wise for L .

Yeah .

When I mean hit .

I mean all-time hit . It's not just a classic rap song . It's one of the classic rap songs . You know what I'm saying .

Give me the South what ? Give me an example In recent years . You mean in recent years , sean yeah , like , just give me an overall example , like an LL joint that is universal versus a Snoop joint that is universal . I want to understand that where you're coming from .

Let's just say Drop it Like it's Hot . That's a universal classic hit for Snoop LL got joints like that in the tuck as well .

What would you call that Jiggling Baby ? Or Ronda Way Girl ?

Which one ? Well , yeah , not to take it back that far , but you could say like lounging , whatever , okay .

I was just asking .

I was just curious about that , that's an interesting take .

I was just curious about that . That's an interesting take .

I was just curious about that . Jingling Baby is bigger than Drop it Like it's Hot in hip-hop culture at least , Maybe not in mass culture .

Jingling Baby was massive .

It was . It was massive for his time . He was still a little cultish around that time . You know what I'm saying ?

Yes , I Need Love was , to me , everything I think I Need Love might be the biggest and most important transition of hip-hop for me Just to be able to have a ballad like that for women .

I'll tell you what Nelly and Ja Rule and all those dudes they exist because that record exists .

LL was their blueprint .

Absolutely .

That's what I mean . He has a lot of blueprint plans in his house of what he's done for the game . I think part of the reason why he doesn't get mentioned the way that he should is because he has , uh , talking points are more like how he crafted the game as a whole for the MC not necessarily the MC and does that make sense ?

Absolutely , absolutely , absolutely , yeah , timeless , timeless . It has no age stamp on it , it has no time stamp on it , right ? Yeah , absolutely , we got a super chat . Aj , you got us .

Yeah , shout out to Tracy G , with the $5 super chat I'm ready for LL album . The old head's been putting out fire . Glad Nas was able to motivate . Yeah , facts . I don't think Nas will get the credit he deserves for this surge of , you know , 90s MCs in LL's case 80s mcs putting out um this music .

So this is what I mean about l , though l is the type of dude that it's like , well , he said in the interview . It's like , well , I'm the one that sparked all this with rock the bells , because that's his mentality , that's the bravado . You know what I'm saying ?

and I'm not , I'm not mad at that , you know I'm saying right , I'm not mad at that at all , because who's to say that ?

you know , maybe a rapper like I don't know , from queens , like I don't know when naz , maybe woke up one day and listened to Rock the Bells and maybe heard his favorite KRS song , his favorite Kane song , his favorite Rock M song and his favorite Public Enemy song and it just maybe might have just inspired him to just you know .

Yeah , still sharp and still Like . Nas sat down with LL during the Payton Full documentary . So you know I'm sure they talked about not Payton Full , sorry the Supreme Team documentary .

Absolutely .

Go ahead Luke .

You know , specifically to Life's a Bitch . It's not the best rap feature of all time , but it might be the most special . I don't know if it's the best . No , no , no , AG , you're right , it's up there .

I have it only second to Verbal Intercourse .

See , I think you're talking on some rap , and that's why I mean well , it's right , because because as much as I love verbal intercourse , life is a bitch is actually a better record and a more special record as much as I love her . I agree with that , and so that's what I mean .

You would have to refer back to the first guy we talked about , Snoop , to even have that conversation Correct .

Correct , it's there , it's right there . It's special anytime they can get together and do anything their actual on-wax records together . I don't think that we've heard at least a mass more than 20 . Does it even have 15 ? I feel like it might be 15 if you include the firm stuff like 15 , 16 .

They got about 20 joints if you count the firm joints .

Yeah , Right , I feel like it's somewhere between 15 and 20 , right , because I don't even think it's a full 20 piece . Is it a full 20 , ag ?

Yeah , they got 20 . Because I don't even think it's a full 20 piece . Is it a full 20 , AG ? Yeah , they got 20 . Because .

I made a mixtape one time myself and they got about 20 drums If you count the firms , just not them as a deal . Right , you got to count the firm shit , though right , yeah , the La Familia , the Joint Time . Affirmative Action Time yeah .

Sirius . That was a joint that was unreleased , which was hard . That should have been on Streets to Cycle , which one , sirius .

Yes , tight as a midget's closet . Yeah , that's crazy .

Yeah , I don't think a lot of people know about the Everything is Everything remix with Joe . That's another dope joint .

Yeah .

They got a lot of joints .

I wouldn't call 20 a lot , but they got joints , it's a sample . How about this ? It's a large enough sample size and we can say how about this ? How many of the 20 joints is really bangers ? Are all 20 ? Sounds good . Now you're being disrespectful because no , I'm asking questions . I'm asking questions , somebody has to .

Because of who they are , you will want to be 100% across the board . You'll be 20 for 20 . When I think you might be .

Yo , I ain't gonna hold y'all . They got about like eight elite joints Like life's a bitch .

But that's expectation from them . That's what I'm saying , like for these two , for these two , both have eight .

I mean let's go through it . Let's go through it , though Eight of them better be fucking epic . But I'm saying let's go through it though . We got Life's a Bitch . More Money , More Homicide , phone Tap , phone Tap is top tier . Right Then , um , are we counting ? Um , give Me Yours , nah , singing the Hook , are we counting that ?

I kind of feel like that hook is important . The Flyers oh , then you got .

I kind of feel like that hook is important , the flyest , oh , it is important . First nigga , to sing a hook on some TJ Swan shit . I mean he said it like that's a fact . Um the flyest , um the essence . I love the essence that . Got nominated for a Grammy too . Didn't win , but got nominated um best uh rap , you know duo or what else we got .

Yeah , that's enough . What ? What are you saying about ?

how you living , oh how you living . I hold that high how you .

Living is up there .

I like how you living , yeah , and the essence .

And then we didn't even bring up yeah , I said the essence , and then we didn't even talk about affirmative action . You know , like a posse cut joint .

Yeah . I'm talking about them . They're a lot familiar , a lot familiar .

Yeah , yeah , so they have . Oh , speaking of Mo Money , mo Murder , mo Homicide , taj posted a clip where they actually performed that with the orchestra . I thought that was dope , because I mean , how many concerts would you go to and expect to hear that joint ? Well , when you think about it , though , listen to the beat .

Enough for a 30 , 40 piece band yeah .

Oh yeah .

I don't want the orchestra people coming after me and be like . You know , your homie Coop , yeah , called our orchestra a band . We're going to beat this nigga with a homie . You don't know orchestra people . They're under a lot of stress . You don't know what they'll do . You don't know that .

Peace to Ill Magic . With the $2 Super Chat Did Nas try to get Andre back to rapping

No , Coop did .

And LL did , ll told the truth .

I failed miserably , and so did LL . Next question please , no trauma . It's going to be a no trauma episode . How about that ? No trauma episode .

Yo self with $2 Super Chat . Hook on to Find my Name sounds like . Move the Crowd . Tracy G with a $5 super chat . Appreciate it ?

Well , I mean , his best moments to me are him spitting those verses over the who Shot Ya beat on Mary J Blige's my Life and the I Shot Ya remix . So outside of who Shot Ya and I Shot Ya , you know what I mean . But ain't no shots , dude , not no shots . Most beautifulest thing in the world , the album . It's got Get Lifted on it . How's that ?

And El Nino is slept on too . Coop , you like that ? No , no , no . I love me some El Nino .

Six is a Redman fan , so he used to play El Nino all the time .

How about ?

this El Nino is like your quintessential 4 to 4.25 . It's like it's somewhere in that territory . It's not epic , but they bob and weave on every track . In about three minutes to four minutes they get in and out . It's quick , it's swift , it's fun , it's entertaining . The rhymes are there , the beats are there .

You're absolutely right I don't know why . Do you think it's because it came out in that era that ?

was rough riders era . It was so much heat dropping , it was so much yeah , how about this ?

if they would have made that record right after Muddy Waters going into 97 , if they would have done it in 97 , it would be totally different .

You're right , 98 , right , was it 97 , 98 ? It's 98 . I feel like it's summer .

98 , too .

I think it was summer 98 .

You got two X albums , you got Moment of Truth . You got all kinds of crazy stuff .

Dropping around DMX . It's Dark and Hell is Hot Time .

Not a good idea .

We didn't know it was going to happen like that .

Not at all . Not at all . That doesn't get talked about enough .

That's why I hold them so high yeah yeah , it's one of them special . It's one of the more special rap albums , but it's one of more special rap moments too .

Absolutely cool . It took us out of a dark time of hip-hop straight up . Like it took us out of a dark time . Put us in different dark time , like because you're talking about off the heels of losing pocket big yeah , and the shiny stew era .

he just he threw hip-hop back in the mud . Yeah , he's like . No , he's like . He's like we're not polishing shit up anymore , we're taking our shirts off in the tunnel , call Hype , call Sheik and the rest of the locks and the rest of the yonkers . We're going to take the tunnel . You know what I'm saying .

I mean , if you look at it though , hip-hop is like dog years , though , because that shiny suit puffy era wasn't as long as what we really make it out to be .

That's what's so important about DMX . It's like no , that happy shit was about to continue until he made it dark and hell is high .

This is coming just one year later , but it seemed like so much longer than that , though , in real time .

He ended in error before the error was able to get momentum . That's what's special about it . Look at who he did it to . Yeah , you know what I'm saying . That's what's so important about it .

I I don't disagree , but here's what I would say we still had a dynasty going on with the shiny suit era because you had mace harland world , you had big life . After death , you had no way out . These albums came out in 97 back to back . This is a triple no , no , no .

And for 97 you win the championship .

No , but to my point that era seemed like in real time . It seemed longer like . That was like a three year run when all that stuff really kind of happened . Within the same year they got 18 months .

They got 18 months . They got 18 months . Shout out to L .

Boogs Appreciate the love . L Boogs Appreciate the love , appreciate it 18 months .

Niggas ain't winning . No more rings . Get at me dog . It was . I tell people . Get At Me Dog is the most ambitious first rap single in the history of rap , because you got to think about the time Y'all remember . Think about the time that he dropped that as his first single in you know how important , that is .

Yeah , because he's a new artist too .

Tone setter , but tone setter , it is a tone setter if ever there's a tone setter . Tonesetter , but tonesetter , it is a tonesetter if ever there's a tonesetter for a lead single for an album .

Yeah .

That was like a booster shot to the game , though , bro .

Y'all niggas want to be killers . Y'all niggas want to feel us . Y'all niggas want the real .

We overlooked him . He was on a Mace joint . He was on two joints on Mase's album .

Hold on , think about this . Why is he closing out a rap song on Mase's album ? That's what I'm saying , yeah .

And then Sheik Sheik is on the hook to get at me dog .

While Mase is moving four or five mil , like he was about to move .

Yes , that's what I'm saying .

Forget that Mase like Harlem World was a jewel of platinum within like a year . But let's call it what it is Mase turned back into murder , for you know , to close on DMX's album , he knew what time he had to be on if he was going to be on X's album got you gotta shoot the fair one .

You gotta survive like that . Yeah , gotta shoot the fair one . It's like no , no , no , you got to close out my shit , I'm going to close out yours and X is probably like you . Better not come with no bullshit . You know what I mean , Right , right . So he probably got murder mace because of how DMX murdered 24 Hours to Live .

Absolutely . He's a standout amongst some monsters on that track . Yeah yeah , brandon Rogers , $5 Super Chat . Appreciate you , bro . The shiny suit era was 99 , st Louis Rams . Dmx is Tom Brady .

That's a good one Straight up .

No .

Dynasty's for you .

One ring .

You get one ring .

That's

I was doing it yesterday actually , just for the relevancy of it . It's still a dope album to me . It's more experimental than the rest of the other five projects and if I'm ranking them , I would rank Magic 2 last . But I still think it's a great effort and I think it suffered mainly because of its namesake .

I think I listened to this album when it first released , probably more than I wanted to . To be quite honest , I love the album , but I remember we were prepping you love the album . You love the album . Here's why . Here's why Because it holds a sentimental value to me .

Other than Death Row East ? Isn't your favorite ? Nas and Hip Boy song on this album , coop , slow it Down . Isn't that your other favorite ?

I love Slow it Down . It is one of my favorite songs from this album .

That back end run the Pistols on your album cover love Slow it Down . It is one of my favorite songs . That back end run the you know Pistols on your Album cover what it all really means .

Okay , so let's talk about it the end of that album , what this all really means . Slow it Down and Pistols on your Album cover . That's a great ending . It's the best run .

Damn cool , oh there you go .

Yeah , y'all are stuttered on my side . I don't know what's going on . I think it's storming in Georgia again we can hear you now . Cool you good yeah , on my side , I don't know what's going on ?

I think it's storming in Georgia again . We can hear you now . Coop you good yeah .

Oh , okay . Yeah , I was about to say I think it's storming up here . It's been storming for days down here . No , I was saying the end of the run of the album , that's . You know what I'm saying . And Office Hours . He's stellar on office hours . I think people are so concerned about 50 and what 50 does ?

Yeah , yeah , do y'all like how he uh , so oh , go ahead my fault .

No , no , no , you're good .

I was just going to ask y'all do y'all like how he leaned into the magic theme ?

uh , more on this , uh , magic too , because it seemed like on that one he was a lot of fun , like him and Hip-Boy , really leaning into the theme of it all . I wasn't feeling it . Man , I'll be honest with you Because , remember , I told you I think I hit you up , AG you and Trifor , I'm like yo , what the fuck ?

Like I said , because the joint like yo the promos with the Houdini promos yeah .

Because I was trying to get you guys . I was like yo , this is going to be a little bit different . So you know , I mean I didn't want to give it away because , again , we were still trying to figure out how we're going to get in front of it , because we were told we had X amount of days , x amount of weeks to be to get ready .

He's made a lot of rap albums too . He's made a lot of rap albums .

Lost Tapes 2 was like what , a week ago or something .

Yes , it was . You're right . Lost Tapes 2 was like a week ago or something . Yes , it was , I forgot about that .

You're right . Don't tell anybody . Don't tell anybody .

Don't do that , man QB politics .

I'm with you on that one Boop .

I got that one towards the bottom . All right , let's go to the next up .

Let's go to the next up . Since you want to do that , let's go to the next step . Next step , let's go to the next step . Okay , Coop . Since you want to do that , Coop , let's go to Cole .

Yo yo .

Whoa , whoa , let's go to Cole .

Coop . Whoa , whoa . Where's the Atlanta weather now when I need it ?

Since you want to talk , great , let's go to Cole Coop Shit . Talk , craig . Let's go to Cole Coop Shit . What are you talking about , man ? You talking about Lost Tapes 2 ? Let's talk about people saying that Vince Staples is on the same level as Cole Yo that's wild .

I don't know what Twitter was on that day , but that's wild .

No , let Coop talk . Coop talking about Magic 2 , he's talking about Lost Tapes 2 . Nah , coop talk about J Cole . Damn Coop , shit . Cole get the money . North Carolina get the money . I'm trying to be cute up here .

No no , no , let me know when you're finished , all right , I got it on my chest .

Feel better , do you feel better ? I feel much better . No , no , no Feel better .

Do you feel better ? I feel much better . No , no , no , I'm glad that you feel better

Yo , I'm just here for the jokes . Y'all seen the memes with Joe Biden and Cole like side by side .

Yeah , let Coop hear it . I want the chat to also let Coop hear it as well .

I told you . You want to know what . At this point , J Cole's going to be the only rapper on the Liberal Strike Back mixtape .

Nah Cole was riding his bike in New York with Trader Truth . They had a little marathon , decathlon , triathlon , whatever one of the joints or something . They gave him a custom Dreamville bike . They gave him a hexagon bike .

I don't care if they gave him a hexagon , a pentagon , an octagon , I don't care what the math I'm saying , I don't care what the mathematics are .

Yeah , I got a real question though . Big Sean's about to drop , if he puts out a really great album , does he move ahead of Cole , since you know in Cole's mind people that Cole dropped so far ?

you see what I'm saying about what happens when you go outside .

I don't think so , man , I don't think so this is depressing , is what it is you gotta sit through this . You gotta talk . The people want you got to sit through this . You got to sit , you got to talk . The people want you to talk about this . This is your guy , yeah .

I'm going to continue to say what I've been saying all year . Oh , he better make album of the year .

There's no other choice .

He said it got to be a purple tape .

I said purple tape-ish , purple tape-ish .

Purple tape-ish . I'm serious .

I'm not joking . Think about it A great album removes all of this talk .

Okay , let me ask you this Cool One , really great album .

An album of the year Like what the fuck ? One album of the year . That's true .

One .

Every record needs to sound like one off . Supreme Clientele .

It's not . I'm sorry . I'm sorry .

Cole and even if it did , like his talk got to change Like he had his talk was heavy before , like he can't come with that same energy now , so it's like I don't even know .

That's what led him to having . Arguably the best feature run of this era was talk like that .

He put himself in position to be number one of the big three .

But he can't do that . No more cool . After this it's going to be like Big Willie style Real business brought out Big Willie style .

Stop it , sean , stop it .

Like this .

Next topic Should I be a disrespect for you ?

I'm just saying that's the level that he's going to have to go to .

And Nas wrote on that record .

so you'd be a double disrespectful Yo we're on the front cover like this , though it's crazy , though Like no crazy , though like no one want to talk about that . Yo , we're not talking about that man . Yo . Next topic yo shout out to deuce faco man . We appreciate you , bro . Yeah , we appreciate you man , for real , for real .

You open yourself up to this . That's what I mean . This isn't about the merit of the battle . This is about what you made yourself susceptible to . This is the classic example of a self-inflicted wound . Yes , your occupation is in a competitive jungle and spear . Yes , like inherently . Unfortunately , you are considered to be one of the kings of this jungle .

I don't want to do it no more . But here's the good thing . Middle Child just went diamond . So Tracy G , there you have it . The potential is there . Middle Child just went diamond .

Which I think is arguably his best song .

Straight up . Love that record .

I was about to say I don't know how y'all feel about his records .

I feel like that's a top five , top ten Cole record .

Nah , it's my favorite .

Cole record . You think it's his best AG .

Yeah , I think it's his best , from top to bottom , back and forth .

Really you think so too . Y'all both think it's the best record .

Yeah , the hook , the energy , how he's spitting on there . T-minus he came with a dope beat it checks all the boxes .

It does . If that's what you're saying , listen to what I'm about to say . That's that bullshit that I'm talking about . How does middle child stack up to you to Money Trees ?

To which I didn't hear what you said . To what ?

Money Trees .

I prefer me personally . I prefer to go Money Trees . Personally , I do .

Yeah , money Trees is one of my favorite Kendrick joints too , but it's so conceptual like I don't know man , I might lean towards middle child , but I'm with you , though I see what you're saying yeah that's the problem ?

yeah , if you feel like this is his best record , I would submit to you .

Well , that's what my problem is yeah , money trees is arguably not Kendrick's best record . You know what I mean . He got a lot of it .

Right , because he's got about four to seven other records in the vicinity of that record , correct ? Yeah , absolutely . How many records do Cole got like that in the vicinity of Middle Child ? And we're also saying Money Trees is a better record than you Walked Away From the .

Back Right hey , y'all fans out there , take note , man than you walked away from the back Right . Hey y'all fans out there , take note , man . Coop giving Kendrick his props right now Very problematic .

Off the heels of J Cole . Very problematic , I don't believe him . But you need more people . I don't believe him . Terrible . Coop is doing reverse psychology right now . Coop is it's reverse psychology man . Coop is doing reverse psychology right now . Coop is Reverse psychology man . Coop is a sick motherfucker .

So sad , you better make album of the year . That's all I have to say . I don't want to talk about anything else . It's like how's the album ? Y'all are going to have to Because of the trauma that's been inflicted upon me and my North Carolina family .

I'm probably going to need a day or two well , this is why that's going to be damn near an impossible task , because you're using joints like the purple tape as the bar bars that he haven't even said himself . Like if you said that , okay , if he puts out a joint on the level of Forest Hills , then that'll you know what I mean .

The album of his life .

Yeah , the album of his life . He got to put that out now .

Common did it With B .

Not with this one You're talking about with B right .

Hell no , not with this one .

I'm just making sure . Sorry . I'm sorry . I thought you were tweaking over there for a second .

I'm triggered right now .

I'd like to apologize , totally triggered . This is bullshit .

I thought you was tweaking over there . I thought you was saying auditorium was that this is ?

not the conversation that I wanted to be having . Why no , we're going to have it . No , in July . No , listen , in July of this year , with how this year started , I was not prepared to have this conversation in July .

Right , sean , just doing this to you because we made him talk about Ghostface .

I thought we had this conversation in a totally different context . It's like so how did this J Cole , this record , go against this Kendrick ? You know what I'm saying ? Think about this . He doesn't have enough ammunition on Cole to make a knot , like us . He don't , he would have been hitting a brick wall . It's ridiculous .

But in a fight you got to know if you can take a hit or not . It's like Cole stole on him and then was like yo , I don't even know if I should have did that , fam , you know what I'm saying . I'm sorry , my bad , my bad . You know what I'm saying .

I guess he figured out he couldn't take a hit . It's been like I had the seal on your ass , Yo .

that was like Iron man hit the Hulk , he said I'm sorry , I'm sorry we got Ill Magic . Appreciate you Ill Magic . Y'all think JID would have walked away if he was in the middle of Drake and Doc ? Absolutely not . Jid is competitive , he's very competitive . He's fierce . He doesn't have a conscience . I think Cole does have a conscience .

He has a conscience .

It's two out of chat . It says Money Tree is only good because J-Rock first .

Let's not do that Don't do that .

I agree with you , kcg . Whatever KCG says , I agree that's wild . Thank you for this chat , I just agree . You can say anything , except that ghost is not . I agree , my bad Coop . I'm going to get off of Coop . Man , pause , I'm going to leave Coop alone for a little while . Man , no , I'm not actually . You sound like a pedophile .

You sound like a pedophile . I say pause .

I say pause . You know what I second-guessed myself . I'm not going to stop because here Coop myself . I'm not going to stop because here , what do you think about Common and Pete Rock having 3,000 to 5,000 sold ?

Come on , sean . I thought we weren't going to do this man . We talked behind the scenes . I'm just asking a question .

I'm asking a question . The auditorium sold like 5,000 , I think , and I thought y'all wanted to talk about it . If I'm wrong , I apologize . And I thought y'all wanted to talk about it . If I'm wrong , I apologize , no , so you're not going to talk about it .

I don't know if any album has made me feel as old as this album made me feel when I heard those numbers .

See , so AJ , get on here , because you're talking about me .

No . I don't even know why we're making this a discussion . Who expected this to sell ? Look , Common is from .

Hold on , go ahead . No , no , you want to know . Aj , talk your shit .

Because listen listen , Common is from the physicals era . Bro didn't move major units in his prime . He doesn't even have a . We talked about all the artists with platinum albums , multiples . Common doesn't have one . He has a couple gold joints , I believe , but no platinum albums Like one of the tacos is not platinum .

Respectfully , real hip-hop heads don't like't care about that . Nobody cares about him doing stuff to get a Grammy nominee . Niggas in the street don't care .

Nobody thought he was going to move units , though Did you think he was really going to move units ?

The way y'all been talking .

yes , oh , come on , Sean , the way the core hip-hop populace plugged and talked about this record ag , I wasn't expecting , like you know , it to sell like 150 000 the first week , but I was expecting it to do like 25 to 50 . The way they had time to do a rollout .

They released like five of the joints before the album even dropped .

Well , I told you I was kind of like only with it because they were old school artists doing their old school thing . But I was worried about that and I think it kind of bit them because I think the most catchiest records they already released before they dropped it and that's not a good thing to get people to kind of go back to the album there you go .

Let me ask you this do you go back and run the run the whole album from front to back , or do you just like play certain joints because I got about like seven or eight that I go back to .

I don't really run the whole album like that , no more I don't run the whole album like that because , like the album , like when I'm chilling how about this ? You want to know what it is ? It's almost too adult contemporary if that wouldn't . If that even makes sense , it's too adult contemporary hip- . It's not enough hip for my hop . You know what I'm saying ?

You know what I'm saying . But look at where we're at now . Like you know , we've had some time to sit with it , but remember we was texting back and forth the next day after it came out and I was like yo , it don't have enough energy to it , it needs some more . You know , some more bangers . You know what I mean .

You can't unhear it now , can you ?

Yeah , common got two hooks and they have hooks on the whole album . We're on our way and everything's so grand . They're the only two joints he have half hooks on and that's coop swat . I blame him for that because that's common's bag , but it was hidden really well . But I blame coop for that . So thank you for that coop .

So here's . Here's the thing with that that makes me worry about it . It's like , well , when you told me that he doesn't have a platinum album , I actually thought about . What I had said to ag was like damn , he doesn't do hooks well either . My immediately thought after putting those two things together was how can he be top 10 all time with that ?

well , that's the age-old debate . Does numbers matter or do they not matter ?

I mean , okay , your hook game is kind of like it's not necessarily part of your rhyme skill , but it is part of your repertoire and so the guys that he is in the spear with are all sincerely better . And so the guys that he is in you know the spear with are all sincerely better . Hook writers who have gone platinum .

The one and I'll agree with that . The one thing I will say is Common is from the era where a hook had to be like a requisite on a track . Because if you take a little bit earlier than the early 90s , late 80s , early 90s , a hook wasn't something that was necessary .

So let's juxtapose those things . Commons Can I Borrow a Dollar , I think , comes out around the same time that you hear Halftime from Nas . Okay , same time . Resurrection , which is actually Common's second album , comes out the same year that Illmatic comes out . That's a 94 album , right , yep ? This is what I mean about the separation .

But somebody saying yeah , I mean , this is not the new for him . I'm not even trying to hate on that , but he did it well and you pointed that out .

Yeah , no , but what I'm saying is is is that that became his go-to instead of learning how to write the hook ? So he's sticking to his formula to a degree so would you say , that's his achilles heel yes , absolutely , absolutely , and that's what I mean .

No .

Nope , think about it , kendrick . Nope , method man .

Definitely Method man .

Think about it All the guys that are in the top 20 .

We talked about AZ . Liza Bitch is AZ on the hook , az on Do or Die got dope hooks . That's the same time frame , that's 95 .

I wouldn't put Jay in that , because I don't think Jay is really a hook guy . Think about Jay .

He can do what he wants to , but he has a lot of feature hooks .

A lot of feature hooks . A lot of feature hooks .

He stays away from it . He's a really great MC , so I don't like his skill . This is what I mean about when you start splitting hairs . Well , his skill level at his peak is such that it's like he can get away with that more than Common can .

He could do a hook when he want to do them . You know what I'm saying . Where I'm from is dope , probably my favorite J hook man . This is a hot take , but I love who you with .

I love who you with . I love who you with though , to get more shows to rip , I suggest you go roll with who you with . That's a hard , bro , sean you hating . Old things , you know exist that is it who you with Can't scheme on them . Rockefeller got a team on them . Chicks crank yeah , that's really dope Crazy . I don't care what anybody says , he's crazy .

Yeah , Sean hating right now .

That's the record that made me realize that his flow was sick .

That's the part that made me realize that he wasn't him . That's the part . Go to the next topic .

Common and Pete Rock are going to have to update this formula fast because they're going to have to improve these sales and give us a more hip-hop ish album Not adult contemporary hip-hop , but a rap album . Kd1 had Spicy 27 Summers , car 85 , contemporary adult hip-hop , but a rap album . Kd1 had Spicy 27 Summers , car 85 , contemporary adult hip-hop .

Well then , who needs to pivot ? Pete or Common or both ?

Both Mostly Common .

Yeah , yeah , that makes sense . I can dig it . All jokes aside , all kidding aside , the album is still a good album . Let's see what Volume 2 , if there's a Volume 2 that comes out . Unfortunately , this era of music is all about streams and guys . You know our legends , like Common P , you know others .

let's look at it like this If I Am doesn't get bootlegged , first of all , it still moved like 3 million records , almost Something like that . Yeah , I think it did end up going triple , like it ended up going triple , but initially it was like 2.7 , 2.8 . You know what I'm saying ?

Yeah , and it went pretty much gold the first week . Imagine if it doesn't get bootlegged , though you're telling me it doesn't do 4 million no , it does do 4 million because if it was a double album , like it was intended , remember those units counted twice yeah so he would have been so , instead of 2.7 he would have done 5.4 there you go absolutely

we're not having and then we're not having like this conversation about like record sales , even in relation . You get what I'm saying , so it's just like like I'm always mindful about , like , not only like when you sell it , but like how it happens and what area you sold it , and that's why I tell people it's like I'm not being funny when I say this .

And rap didn't have the outlets to Sean's point , so much so where Big had to point it out , trying to sell records like Snoop .

Because when you're selling 5 million records in a rap climate in 1993 and 94 as a solo artist like we didn't have five million subscribers to anything total hip-hop .

Chronic didn't do 5 mil . Let's keep it real . And Dre was already a household name .

No , it did 3 and it didn't hit 4 until Doggystyle came out and started running and made people go back and grab the chronic . So it really was like a three to five situation .

Because you had a whole coast on your side , as opposed to a barrel or the city of New York , you know . I mean you had a whole coast that was riding with you to get that momentum going , very similar to what we see with Kendrick .

I just want to cut you off . This is not a good show for me , but you know Lupe .

When Lupe claimed the victory over Coop I think it was last year , the year before last what he claimed , what Don't start that shit , Sean .

Wow , man Don't start that .

When we had the Coop and Lupe wars and Coop edged out , lupe edged out Coop in the third round . I think he feels now he's ready for K-Top . I mean , you got .

It's like making Coop pick the lesser of two evils from this so awful .

Coop got to pick a side , because when Lupe was going at Coop you know I was like yo . This Lupe and Coop war is getting interesting .

You know , he pissed me off so much I woke up one morning and hit him on Twitter and called him by his government name on Twitter .

Yo Lupe going to come at you with a katana Coop .

Nobody thinking about Lupe , nobody worried about him .

Coop , you got to pick a side . You got to pick a side , Coop . You know I love this show . This is the worst .

Lupe going to anime side Coop . I love this show . This is the worst .

Lupe going to anime punch Coop . This is the worst 20th episode any podcast has ever had . I just want to say this is the worst . This is not where I want to be . You want to know what ? Aj , you're right . This isn't always a safe place . This whole episode is not a safe place . I'm proud to tell you . People want to know , people want to know .

I think you're just being competitive Coop . I think you want to be Kendrick's biggest hater , and not Lupe .

That's why I got Coop versus Lupe .

To see who can hate on Kendrick more .

I'm not hating . I'm not hating .

You kept it real Coop .

You hating . I'm not hating . You kept it real Coop . You kept it real Coop .

This is rooted in some fundamental truth .

It is Look , how about this ? You want to know how . You know what made me think that Lupe is a hater . I didn't feel that way until today and something told me . Like you know what Coop . Like you know , you're fairly good at investigative reporting . Just go look up Lupe and Kendrick in the sphere and see what it pulls up .

Now stop picking on Kendrick . I mess with Lupe and I'm a Lupe fan , but I think it's a lot of envy there . You look at the time when Lupe came out , like around 05 and stuff .

That's one of the seven deadly sins . Tell that to your MIT class .

nigga it is the era that Lupe came out in . He was a super lyrical guy and then you had your Jeezy's and um , you know , guys like Rick Ross coming out and I think Lupe looks at how Kendrick is heralded in this era and feels like he should have had the same fanfare . Um , but Lupe had some you know things going in his career .

Here's the thing he is a brilliant writer and brilliant lyricist , and so how about this ? His level is a level up from Meet the Grams . Lyrically , that would be his approach to the Battle of Kendrick . What Kendrick did to Drake with Meet the Grams , like the psychological analysis and lyrical breakdown . That's actually what Lupe would provide Kendrick with .

MC's . Mc . That's a good observation . I'm a Royce fan and Royce is super lyrical , but he sent Royce to the shadow realm . Let's be real . I don't a Royce fan and Royce is super lyrical , but he sent Royce to the shadow realm . Let's be real . I don't think Royce put out anything since he put out something that just wasn't good .

I'm not even going to lie , and I'm a big Royce fan yeah , I mess with Royce . I've said a lot of the times that I think Royce might be the best overall MC that came out of Detroit that's fair .

I mean , I'm not mad at that . He has records that feel that way , so , but but I think , I think with Lupe , we got to keep the same energy with Lupe as we did with Rick Ross . Like Sean was real pissed off about Ross entering the chat and inserting himself into the beep , or whatever . Lupe has got to be the same thing , man .

Oh , yeah , oh yeah .

He's trying to act like well , I didn't check for nothing else except for champagne , poetry and pushups , bro , you heard that record . And another thing I heard , you know joe asked him about it . Joe button interviewed lupe and asked him about it and lupe did say I don't have no problem with kendrick , it's all love .

If Cook would have circled the wagons and tried to get that wind back he has ammo now .

Yeah , that was a wild convo that shouldn't have been on the airwaves .

You went crazy too .

Then bro said let me chill . A lot of my listeners are Muslims .

Yo Lupe's wild .

I'm just going to check the interview out .

This is going to be fun . To Koop's point , he said a lot of the conscious cats would be the worst ones bro .

I keep trying to tell you that these are the worst niggas ever .

He went crazy on that . Kendrick Lupe Talib .

Yashin , all these pro-black be having 17 kids with 14 baby mamas and be kicking all this righteous stuff to you . Ain't never seen a church , a synagogue , a prayer rug like be talking that shit to you yeah , I'm messing with .

Lupe . But nobody , I don't think nobody , you know , at the end of the day wants to see that the tweets that he deleted , which I still have , by the way .

I don't know , you mentioned it a time or two Yo Tweets , the mark of a loss . The mark of a loss . It's like , oh , you're out here deleting tweets . Fam , I got you in your feelings . I got you saying stuff you didn't say Like I'm unroading all the Maybacks and fucked all the models .

But you're the same for Lupe , even more .

The music is supposed to be your talking piece , not these terrible-ass fans . And yes , I think Lupe is so awful that even in a choice between Lupe and Kendrick , I'm choosing Kendrick . What does that tell ?

you . That says a lot . That says a lot . That says a lot . I mean especially with y'all Beef you and Lupe I enjoyed it , Me and Lupe don't have Beef , Me and Lupe don't have Beef , I enjoyed it . I hope you guys go at each other again .

He said I think that you think that you're smarter than me , and I was thinking who the fuck wakes me up and says something like that on Twitter ? He did say that .

He did say that . I remember that .

I actually liked that tweet when he said it . I liked it , you liked it .

I liked it . Yo , I'm not joking . You know , like half of that shit I was . I wasn't even out of my bed . I was like at the edge of my bed , like is this nigga really doing this today ?

Yo , yo , he was Sorry , sean . We posted it . I was about to get fired .

Am I being pranked or something ? Am I being pranked on Twitter ? Is this nigga really pulling up ? I think that you think that you're smarter . It's like what the fuck is that it's ?

9.30 in the morning . What are you doing ? Yo , I like that joint . I reposted it with the eye emoji you reposted it .

You gave this nigga more air time .

Sean reposted it with a skateboard emoji saying he's going to kick-push a boy .

You know the skateboard emoji when they had their hands in the back . Like this that's the back . Like this that's the one I posted .

This is not a safe space . It really isn't . It's not a safe space .

I'm sorry , I got an appointment with a couple of therapists .

I got a couple of therapists my bad . The pod used to be the safe space my bad man .

Now Sean's here my bad man I was doing a time when you was with A2HH man Mike had messaged me and said yo make sure you retweet that .

I mean , and that sounds like some stuff , read the super chat Sean .

Some Read the super chat . Sean Read the super chat bro .

Shout out to Mike . Yeah , you can shout him out if you want to . I won't be doing that shit .

You retweet that , don ? Yeah , yo . He said LOL , coop , yo shout out to Mad Max Queens , get the money . Lol . Coop was saying was saying just about Lupe , get the money . Lol . Coop was saying this about Lupe and dudes was hating on Coop . Now that Lupe is outside co-signing Drake , people say what Coop was saying before . But F Dottie's Lupe is not wrong .

He doesn't like Kendrick . He's worse , not care . He doesn't like none of them . He doesn't like Kendrick . He's worse than me , he is . He's hard on me , I will agree he's hard on me .

Mad Max doubles down on him .

I've had to tell Mad Max to chill on the Kendrick talk . How about that ? He'll be like yo fam , it's like you're going too far . Like you've gone too far , we need to bring you back . Come back .

Come back to me . Tracy G , with the $10 Super Chat , says guys , Lupe is interviewing right now with Curtis King and he says why he stopped listening after Rick Ross and why he actively chose not to listen to the beef . Very good interview , Tracy . I hope he says he stopped listening .

He stopped listening because he had to put the VR glasses on .

Who ? 50? , 50? , no , Lupe . He's interviewing right glasses on 50? . 50 ? No , lupe , that's what Lupe said , yeah .

Lupe said enough of these raps , man , I'm putting these VR glasses on .

That's crazy , Putting on VR glasses . Who does that ? Who does that ? Who does that ? Who does that ? Who does that ? Yo ?

man , I said you that interview , that joint with left , is crazy . This and people wonder why I love Pusha T so much . It's like nah , give me some half a brick talk . If you're just going to behave this way in real life , this is who you're going to be in real life . Man , fucking weirdos .

This dude put on VR glasses to watch . He jumped on his shoulders like yo , where did Twitter porn go ? Like what ? Like what just happened ? He just came out of nowhere . Like where did the porn go ?

Yeah man , Him and Joe's combo went left .

Yeah , that shit went way left . Even Joe got uncomfortable . That's Joe . Joe is nasty , nasty , he got uncomfortable .

How do you make Joe uncomfortable ?

You know how uncomfortable shit he says Joe was like I don't even know that part . Joe was like I don't even know that part .

He was like I don't even know about that . How did you make it unsafe for Joe on his show ? Tell me how you did that Right . So , kuba , you got some ammo .

Kuba , if you want to engage , re-engage in this beef . You got ammo , bro , like honestly , you got ammo . I'm here for you .

Just go teach the white people what you think you know about rap and leave me alone .

You know , I guess he did the album from the perspective of Amy Winehouse as a battle rapper . Keep messing around . He's going to do an album from the perspective of Coop's glasses .

Yo Kool's glasses . I'm talking to him . Yo pick me up now so you can see better . I don't see the weather . My bad Kool , it's AG man . Ag is a bad guy . No , I'm saying .

No no .

Bobass TV say y'all don't know what y'all talking about . The room was already freaky . I don't care if it's freaky or not , we're just making jokes about it . Fuck you too , I mean at the end of the day .

Who does that ? What do we have ?

At least the audience is growing .

Yeah , bobass TV .

Yeah , you still going to join . Yeah , still catching stream . Shout out to you baby , it's freaky . Yeah , shout out to the freaky people , though Real talk Bypass might be freaky , that's why Bypass saying that .

Bypass is like yo Bypass was one of the work , and figure it out . You know , lupe just forced me into a neighborhood that I haven't been invited into . You know what I'm saying ? That's what he did . It's like no , no , no . All the people that are Kendrick fans are like man , fuck , coop . We ain't trying to hit him , we're not letting him over here .

You're an honorary member now .

No .

I don't want to be that that would make me part of the worst fan base ever . So I don't want any honorary degrees or membership . I prefer if you're not touching me when we're close , Hands off me . Say to yourself no dab .

You ain't getting that OBO butter soft leather . What if you get a PG Lane joint ? You rock that Coop .

White , white butter soft leather . A PG Lane joint , you ain't gonna rock that . No , nobody wants that .

Who wants that ?

Have you heard ?

Never mind , Nah , man , it's all love . Man , it's all love . It was a good joint man , but it's all jokes . I didn't want to offend nobody .

This battle is a joke . Where's Cole at ?

How many more ?

topics that make me feel unsafe do we have left ? Can you tell me that ? Can you tell me that ?

Can you link twice ?

to this motherfucker .

No , we'll throw you a bone . Drake did come back out with another joint with Yachty .

Now you're throwing me bones like I'm a dog .

I just said that's a good talk , man . My bad man , I don't want no beef man , you got me ? Oh yeah , sure , you don't Nice J Cole and .

Lupe topic off the dome . Oh yeah , Sure you don't . Sure you don't .

Nice , j Colvin Lupe . Topic off the dome . Oh , look at Drake . Man . Drake can't take himself . Why they capture Yachty like that . Yachty's slow . That's why , man , what do you think ? What do you think Yachty's slow man ? What do you think ? Catch him , that's how you look . What do you think Yachty's slow man ? What do you think ?

You ever hear Yachty rap . Someone's actually right .

That's who he is . He looks crazy , he looks goofy , but they do have a joint called Super Soca . Honestly , fellas , it's not like Drake trying to get back into that bag again . Man , he said he was going to start getting into that bag of just making music that people love . That's audience love . I don't like it .

Drake need to hang around some spitters bro . I'm going to just call it what it is . I'm tired of him being always with Yachty and Sexy Red . Hang around some spitters , man .

I think that was great and well said , matt . May I piggyback this record ? Not that good , it's just okay , it's okay at best , and so it's Yachty's fault and Drake's fault . This record is just okay . It's not doing as well as Drake records usually do . Has nothing to do with the battle , it's just the record's not as good . It's okay at best .

Yeah .

Drake got more guest appearance than a Las Vegas prostitute .

He's out there pumping it .

Like a Las Vegas prostitute .

He just needs to hang around some spitters , bro , stop chilling with . Yachty , stop chilling with Sexy Red . Get in the studio with some spitters man so you can come back and gain your respect back .

I don't , but I don't know . Fellas , this is who he is .

I think he's in a position he's not in the same position . Cole is in like how about this Cole ? Making album of the year fixes some stuff ? Yeah , just making a great record with a few bangers changes everything again . Yeah , it's like oh yeah , there was that dark moment where that happened and now we're back to the status quo . You get what I'm saying .

It's like you know a great album for him changes everything again .

You know what I'm saying . It's like when that nasty bastard made Chocolate Factory . It's like when that nasty bastard made Chocolate Factory . It's like , oh no , it changed everything , forgot he was sleeping with a 14-year-old .

Yeah , yeah , that was a wild time .

He can't afford to do that for who he is , because he's always been outside . So the biggest admission to defeat would be to go inside , because then the talk would not only be it's like oh , kendra got not like us and this nigga Drake inside for the first time , this shit over .

I see your point because that's who he always is . But if I'm going for an angle , if I'm Drake , I'm always outside . Kendrick is usually inside , right , but if the people you know say you won this battle , then I'm going to leave you with the champion you chose and say , okay , we'll let this guy hold you down for the next few summers .

What if ?

he can't do that , ag . I hear you , sean , what if he can't do that Right In real life , ag ? I feel you In rap life . I'm like uh-huh , I don't know if that's the wise move . That's what I'm saying . So it's like I'm not disagreeing with you ever . I'm just talking about what the wise move is . So it's like I'm not disagreeing with you ever .

But that's the only angle he can play to me , because if Kendrick doesn't do that , he could come back and say yo , I told you , so you know .

The truth is somewhere in the middle . I think of what both of us are saying . Yeah , yeah , it's a gamble , it's a huge gamble , right that's what I'm saying , you know this is huge trips , four , five , six , like you know .

I'm saying like how the dice fall , kind of like determine how the game going when it comes to stuff like that but if he , if he's just putting out stuff for the sake of putting it , putting it out , whether it be guest appearance or whatever , to me that's like digging a deeper hole . You know what I mean ? Because it's not a good look for you .

See , this is what I mean about the truth being in the middle . Do I think he needs to be as active as he's always been ? No , because I think for anybody , no matter how great you are in this game , how you age in this game , well , you can't put out material the same way that you used to put it out , because you're not in your prime .

That's my second favorite Drake record ever .

It's up there . I can't front it's up there .

Oh no , not the Charlotte , the Toronto , my fault the 5 am in Toronto is my second favorite , not the Charlotte joint , but the Toronto joint .

He got to be more strategic . He's shooting at every market right now , not hitting the bullseye . He needs to be more strategic . That's his biggest problem right now , because his pride and his ego won't allow him to slow it down . Take a look at the landscape and see where to go with it . I think that's what's hurting Drake right now .

He's trying to come off as unbothered . To me , there's nothing wrong with falling back and regrouping and coming back stronger , but he's trying to come off as unbothered .

Go back , get a fully loaded clip and start shooting at everything . Let's get Supercats real quick . 007 , what it do . Queens , get the money . I'm going to pull up on y'all . Drinks and hip-hop . Double O , mad Max , ten out of ten . Mad Max Yachty had the audacity to say BX dudes can't dress . That's my asshole . Someone get that man . Yeah , bx can't dress .

I did . I ran it back a couple times yesterday it's a solid record , um , but I like their collab um . I'm sorry I didn't hear you cool no , no , go ahead oh , I was just saying they had a previous collab on Cordae's last record called Sinister . That I prefer over this one . But this is a dope little record and you know , I got to see them .

So it's dope to see them collab on a track first of all I'd like to say you know black rappers don't come to West Virginia for shows , so you need to stop lying to the people . Yeah .

I was gonna say we've had a lot of heat come through here , I ain't gonna hold you . I got you , I got you , yo , y'all was tripping about my LL story . Y'all thought I was capping like for real , for real man . They had to heal it up in the wheelchair and it was teetering and I was like nervous for old girl , like it was wild bro .

The wheelchair story is totally out of pocket I swear to God , bro , I'm not lying .

Don't lie , You're lying Like you said .

Ll would say stuff hey listen , I'm coming to West Virginia HE .

Listen , kool , you remember how you said LL say stuff with authority . He was telling people in the crowd . He was like yo , old girl , lift her up here . And they was looking like for real . He was like yo , put her up on stage , lift her up here . They picked up that chair . Man Listen , that choice started at the lean Was it leaned back like this .

Was it like this ? That choice was wild , bro . What's her hands ?

like this when she was leaning back . I'm not good at all that , bro , but it was scary . It was a scary moment . It was a scary moment .

That's how you get flagged .

Right there , that's how you get flagged , you got to balance yourself out . West Virginia is wild . I'm just asking you to get a balance yourself out If you're being lifted on the stage you got to like LL wrong for that , bro .

I don't even know he was tweaking man to ask him the crowd goers to lift the full wheelchair on stage . You might have a chair .

God looking at camera and do one of these things Like what do you like ? That's not something that he would do . Like this dude licked his hand in the middle in the camera at a basketball game . This is what he does . Man Like this dude literally just did this and licked his hand like this . I don't even know what it means .

I don't even know , what it means . Y'all done , I'm sorry . Let me know when you're finished .

Let me know when you're finished . You know what I thought , man , this is such a not safe place , because my first thoughts when I heard this record no , no , no , it's not just you . I know that you all aren't safe and I can't trust you all for anything . Can't count on you , niggas , for shit .

Yeah , it has been .

Who's winning this year ? Right , really Kind of low-key won last year . It's kind of like oh , it's two , two . So it's like you lose the feature run , run two , you lose the top three run , you lose the feature run run run ,

Yeah , wayne was light on this one . This wasn't like on the level of the rhapsody joint . Wayne was a little light on this one no , he , he is what here .

Here's the pocket that he's in that I'm really enjoying . He is what he needs to be on a beat . As soon as I heard the beat , I was like , oh no , I was like wayne got a flow for that beat . That's the first thing that I thought .

I got Wayne higher than Drake and Kendrick all time I got Wayne and Kendrick next to each other , so pause if applicable , they're very close to each other .

Pause , if applicable , they're very close to each other on . I'm kind of updating my list right now . They're close to each other on my list , but they're not next to each other .

Yeah , but I do have a plan ahead .

This feature run has something to do with the ahead because when you really look at it , he has everything .

Does Cordae remind you of Cole ? Huh , does Cordae remind you of Cole ?

huh , does Cordae remind you of Cole ? He does , but he's not as good as Cole and so it comes off . So it almost . Here's how it feels to a core hip hop listener , not even saying myself . Well , people , a lot of people from our era feel like Cole's watered down , right , right .

I just wish Wayne could translate that into his own project Currently .

Currently yes , but you know , has the Carter 1 , 2 , and 3 album wise .

Because right now he's rapping , right now I think Wayne's rapping right now .

He loves to rap . If he was a Hooper , he'd be a gym rat , like I mean . Bro loves to rap .

Right , was a hooper , he'd be a gym rat like I mean bro loves to rap right no , I think he had a moment where he didn't love to rap , but I think he came out this far and I think what we're really seeing in this trend of all-time great rappers coming out to play was that they actually all have a little bit of a break somewhere yeah like ll's first

Yeah , ghost is taking a break . Yeah , scarface took a break , yeah .

Rock M took a long-ass break . Krs-one Flickr Kane G-Rap .

Jay . Jay's still pending . Jay's still pending yeah .

So you know they need to charge the battery back up like we do . They need to go back around and get inspired again . One of the best things about the L interview is like when he was like yo , he's like I went back to New York . He's like but I went back to New York .

You know what I'm saying he was on the train . Yeah .

Like I remember , like Capone and Noriega I remember Noriega talked about he did that for the album when Capone came home to Reunion .

He's like yeah , I got fancy .

He's like I went platinum , I did this , I did that . He's like no , he's like I took the jewels off and I rode the train . Sometimes artists got to do that . You know what I'm saying . It's actually just what I've been asking Kendrick to do . All the shit he's been doing is just the shit that I've been asking him to do .

All right , so , kendrick , he has another verse that's come out in his DJ premiere joint called you Don't Stop , with Rick Ross and Big Sean on the hook .

Of course he does . Lil Wayne , don't Stop . That's who Don't Stop ?

Yeah , that's dropping at midnight tonight . Midnight tonight .

Not sure how . I feel I heard snippets of it , heard the beat . The beat sounds fire . I heard Ross first .

We can't trust you with the Ross verse . I'm sorry .

Me and .

Angie will be auditing that . I just don't want to hear Ross , Me and him we'll be auditing that .

I just don't want to hear Ross right now and I don't like Wayne getting on a joint with Ross .

That's what I was about to say .

yep , I don't like it it's probably pieced together .

It's probably pieced together it is pieced together .

So um BJ premieres clips yeah pretty much .

He did say that he .

He got a verse from Wayne , he got a verse from John . So he kind of just Wayne told him whatever you want to put it , put it there . So I still would have liked for him to say if Ross is going to be on there , put me on another joint . If you have another joint coming out , put me on another joint .

I think he had a relationship with Ross before Drake came around . For one he did , you're right , coop , I think . Also for two , I met him one time . He is about as cool and as affable and as approachable as a superstar rapper has ever been .

Yeah .

And that's how Wayne's carrying it . It's not about no , I shouldn't pull myself off of a record . I'm the draw on the record . Nigga , if you got a problem , you pull your shit off the record . I'm Wayne .

Right , no , I get it , you get what ?

I'm saying so this is one of the moments where wayne is kind of like it's subtle . But it's another king move where it's like , no , I'm wayne . Like if that nigga got a problem , tell him to pull his shit off the record . I'm wayne , I'm gonna move this record I'm with you .

Um , I'm just hyped to hear Wayne over DJ Premier Production again , because that joint that was on the Hip Hop 50 EP with him and Slick Rick , I thought that was a dope joint . You know , I think Wayne did his thing over at Premier Production .

I thought it might have been the best joint on the album either that or the Remy and Rhapsody joint .

Yeah , one of those two yep correct oh no , that Joey Badass joint . Yeah , one of those two . Yeah , correct . Oh no , no , that Joey Badass joint was fire man . That EP was slept on while you playing Like that joint was solid , yeah .

That Joey Badass joint was tough . How about this ? The EP is good when you play the songs by themselves . Eps still need to have cohesion too , and so the EP should have been longer or should have just been a full-length player .

Yeah , even that Swiss joint was like that too . Yeah , even that Swiss joint , yeah , so fella . That's all we have . I mean , in the same rounds , new York State of Mind or Empire State of Mind with Diamond , with Alicia Keys and Jay Not my favorite song , but you know again , each their own .

The surprising part for me is the fact that it actually took this long to go diamond . Exactly that seems crazy to say about a diamond record , right , but I'm actually surprised that it took this long because , when we got the word that it went diamond , we was all like Like how , when ? Oh , that just happened , like this year , that's .

Dave's biggest record though it is . I don't even like that .

That's Jay's biggest record though it is , I don't even like that it's his biggest record . Is it his biggest record ?

Yeah , it's his biggest record . It's bigger than Hard Knock Life Big Pimp . It's bigger than all those that's a damn shame .

That's a damn shame .

Yo Sean , let me ask you this as a native New Yorker do you feel like New York state of mind is like old New York and do you feel like Empire state of mind is gentrified New York ?

I thought you were about to say is it new New York ? That's a great answer . I never heard anyone said that . Absolutely correct . It's gentrified New York state of mind . That's a great way of putting it . You finally contributed to the show . That's foul . I didn't mean to say that out loud . I ain't going to front . I didn't mean to say that out loud .

I thought I was saying that to myself .

Contributed to the show . I thought I was saying that to myself .

That's foul man .

My bad man . I'm about to take this generic honey pack real quick . Y'all don't mind , I hope she's still up . I , I hope she's still up . I don't want to take this day .

This is what I'm talking about . This is where we need to go off air . This is what I'm talking about . About you Never go on social media about anything . What is that ? Is that tonic ? I don't want to know .

It's a generic hey as you sleep , I'm in trouble You're going to need to put the VR handsets on , like Lupe . I'm going to get my daughter's VR handset . Yo , baby , can I get this Cut ?

the feed .

Of how AG .

The rest of the Hip Hop Talks Staff feels about . Are you still sucking on the honey pack , paul ? I'm out . Log off , let me go . Episode 20 Are you still sucking on the honey pack , paul ? I'm out . Log off , let me go .

Episode 20 .

Drop zone . Let me out the plane .