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After sitting there for an hour , they promptly let us know that we weren't going any damn way , which caused us to miss the flight and now on another flight . So we missed about three flights today . Fish yeah .

But I'm going to say less because you know there are people who matter , who know me from the airport for years , that follow the show , that worked in the airport , and so I'm just going to be democratic and bureaucratic and say less and try to get home because I do have to work tomorrow . It's been a nice vacation . Minnesota was really nice .

It's really clean . People were really friendly . I had a great time . I spent the day at Paisley Park today . It was an amazing experience . I'm very , very happy that I did . I love the organization and the structure . I mean , can we go ahead and kick off ? I mean , are we just going to make ?

They had made it a point to try to keep his legacy alive as much as possible . The most striking thing for me about being there is that it's apparent upon entry that he intended for this to be a museum from the time that he built it . He started construction of it shortly after Purple Rain . First of all this is why great albums change your life .

Oh , he didn't have build a palace estate , recording studio , super museum type of money before Purple Rain . He had Dirty Mind . He had 1999 . He had Controversy . He didn't have Purple Rain money . Purple Rain funded Paisley Park and they talk about how Purple Rain funded Paisley Park . But rain funded paisley park and they talk about purple rain funded paisley park .

But his intention was to always make it into a museum and although he lived there , the base of the whole place , of the whole compound , was designed to be a museum from its inception . It's what he had always intended . Hold on one second . Gentlemen , y'all got to talk for a second . I gotta let these people talk .

Prince and Coop actually wear the same size shoe and they actually the size 7 , 7 and boys and they caught him trying to put it on and they kicked him out of the park . So that's why he misses a flight . So yeah , safe travels tonight , man . Bam bam , bam bam .

Um , the guitar that prince played at the super bowl at the rock and roll hall of fame when he played my guitar , dritten , gently Weeps . It's called the Horner HG450 . Only 500 of them were made . He bought the guitar in 1980 , and he literally spent his entire career retuning it and upkeeping it and adding like little intricacies to it .

So that was really awesome to see the guitar that he played in the Super Bowl and played my guitar Gently Weeps on . That was super nice . The , the guitar that he played in the Super Bowl and played my guitar gently leaps on , that was super nice . The beat machine that he used was a Linwood L100 .

So we got to see the beat machine that he made when Doves Cry on , and we got to see the OBXA , which is the synthesizer that he used for most of his most famous works , including when Doves Cry . They're celebrating the 40th anniversary of Purple Rain . So there was a lot of Purple Rain talk .

They're celebrating the 40th anniversary of Purple Rain , so there was a lot of Purple Rain talk . But we got to see the synthesizer , the guitar and the beat machine that Prince uses the most and they have it encased and all right next to each other when you go into Studio A . There were three separate studios that we went into .

The completion of Paisley Park didn't get finished until around the time he started recording pieces of Sign of the Times and then disbanded from the revolution . So Sign of the Times was some of the first stuff that was actually like recorded in Paisley Park , because he built it in 85 , but it wasn't finished until 87 .

But everything pretty much that he made after that came out of these studios . Madonna has recorded there . Andrew will love this REM recorded there . Rem is like Andrew's favorite group , so I thought that was a little striking piece of history too .

But one of the most amazing things about the place is how people around town know he used to throw impromptu musical sessions and jam sessions all the time and he literally used to throw it up on Twitter and then take it down so it would be known . But still private and kind of secluded . The rooms have different color schemes and ambiances .

The walls in the front are painted like . The video from Raspberry Beret Around the World in the Day was the album that he was making while Paisley Park was getting built , so that's why there's a title called Paisley Park .

So that's why there's a title called Paisley Park , and you can see how some of the actual aesthetics of the compound are from around the world in the day , which is the album right after Purple Rain . So there was a lot of history in there . There's a lot of moments .

The kitchen from the Charlie Murphy skit where he made them pancakes it's a real kitchen , like so , so when ? So when you see the Dave Chappelle skit scene where they're like sitting in these little diner style chairs and tables and booths no , no , no , that's really in the atrium when you walk into the front of the complex , so it's like , it's almost like .

When you remember the scene where they're sitting down eating pancakes in the booth , it's like no , I saw the booth and it's kind of funny . Pancakes are mentioned multiple times throughout the tour .

So he was obviously a big fan of pancakes , but what he was was really and I want everybody to remember this and think about this he's probably the first artist of his stature to go back home and then stay home Like Michael Jackson , left Gary in Vienna and never went back .

Most of these guys that reach into the places that the Prince made it to , they don't go back home . He went back home and I love the way that this city is keeping his legacy alive . You see purple stuff everywhere . There are print stores everywhere , including in the airport .

When you just walk by with something , prince , people start and start having conversations with you . This city has done a phenomenal job about keeping this man's legacy alive . I love the way that Paisley Park is run down to the security doing check-ins , making sure nobody gets in without a ticket . You don't bring anything in .

There are no cameras allowed until you get to the last portion of the VIP tour . It was immaculately run . They've made it a point to preserve , like literally , the estate how he left it when he passed .

So there are certain couches and certain things that you can't even sit on because they're really trying to keep it alive and some of this stuff you have to understand . He bought this stuff in 1985 , 86 , 87 , and it still is in pristine condition . So he was also somebody who wasn't just meticulous about his work but meticulous about his home .

So I could see the reflection of who he was , just as a human being , and that translated from the music . You got to see the recording booths that he recorded out of . He's the only singer of his ilk that I've ever seen . They had an extra long microphone .

He used to record sitting in a chair more often than he did actually standing up , which is very , very rare for a singer . And I think now , when I think about it , I think that came from all the wear and tear from performing which had something to do with his demise and his hips and stuff .

So he was making it a point even very early on in his career to try to get rest because he recorded sitting down . So this is somebody that knew his legacy , knew he was a genius , like think about this like he knew in 1986 , 87 , this place was going to be a museum . Like he knew who he was .

He knew there weren't too many people like him and he wanted to make sure his legacy moved on for us , but mostly for his city . Here's what I'll tell you . In a lot of ways he's our first independent rapper . He was putting albums online . Before putting albums online was a thing . Y'all remember that Crystal Ball .

There was no Spotify or Apple Music or Tidal or streaming service . He helped start that wave Artists owning their masters . He started some of that wave , but listen to what I'm about to say . Oh no , people who put on for their city .

He started that trend too , like he made it big and went back and he put on for Minneapolis to the day that he died and I think that's something that doesn't often get talked about , but you see it and you feel it when you're up here . It was a great time .

I can literally talk the entire show about it , but it was truly a transformative experience and I felt like I was in a high class , high level museum . When I did my post earlier , I likened it to being at the Orsay or the Louvre and I meant that when I said it .

Now , sean , you don't understand this because you don't have no control over your life , but when I put these gloves on and I take them off , at our point , all the fine girls go get in Lake Minnetonka . When I do that , you don't know nothing about that life .

When I put the gloves on , when I put the glove on , I take it off at our point , they go get in Lake Minnetonka . That's what they told me at Paisley Park . They're like you want to get . I said I'll take two pair .

It's the only thing in there that's not purple is the Blue Bentley . That's the one Nas was talking about . Yeah , might have been . He's probably been there before . Right , want to know what it's like . When you pull up on the complex you're like this is a warehouse . It's like he built a warehouse . That's why it serves so well as a museum .

Yeah , it's very much a large compound and if you're not paying attention , you'll drive right past it , even though it's massive , Like it's massive but you can miss it in a second .

Waddell .

I ain't mad at that . Look , I got to actually get up off the phone . They're about to do all the logistics and stuff . When the Wi-Fi kicks back up and kicks back in , I'm going to jump back on .

The floor is yours , my man .

But we wanted to involve the Discord by giving them a voice on our show and give them their own segment . So earlier this week , you know , we had up to 10 people nominate one artist or producer or you know group that they would like to see us talk about .

That might not be in the regular news cycle as far as you know hip hop media is concerned and you know , give them their own segment and wax poetic about their career , about , you know , the music they put out or what have you . And this week's winner , you know , just so happened to be Scarface , which tallied most of the votes in our Discord .

So you know that gives me and Sean the opportunity to , you know , talk a little bit about Scarface and what he brought , you know , to the genre of hip hop and music in general .

Um , I'm gonna kick it back to you , man , because this , this is you and coop's baby . Um , I know coop is on any safe travels right now , but I'm gonna let you lead the way with this man .

That meant a lot to me because I don't know if I've mentioned it ever on this show before , but at one point Scarface was my favorite rapper ever . You know what I mean . I got introduced to Scarface at a young age when I probably shouldn't have been listening to somebody like Scarface .

But you know , I got introduced to Scarface back in around 89 when I was eight years old , um , to the Ghetto Boys , around the time of their uh second album , grip it on the Other Level , and around that time him and Ice Cube you know from NWA , straight out of Compton fame . They were my favorite rappers up until 94 when I discovered who Nas was .

So Scarface is just somebody I've followed throughout the beginning of his career to now . He currently ranks number 7 on my top 10 of all time list and you know what I got for Scarface is immense because he's one at great group career , stellar solo career .

I don't think a lot of people realize how elite that list people who have , you know , top tier careers both as a group artist and a solo artist . So you know , scarface is one both as a group artist and a solo artist . So you know , scarface is one of those people on the short list .

You know , as far as his discography as a solo artist , I mean , I think he got three classics and impossible . I think Mr Scarface is back as a classic . I think the diary is definitely a classic , I think the fix is a classic and the one I would count as possible for the fourth is the Untouchable .

And you know , scarface definitely , hands down , has a top ten discography in hip-hop , some might even argue top five , and I'm not even mad at that . And you know , I'm glad that he was the first person that we're going to talk about this week in the discord dialogues and , more importantly , I'm glad that he is , you know , fine and prospering .

And you know , doing well . Um , because he just popped up , you know , at the grandmaster awards and he was the recipient of one of the recipient recipients of the award last year with Rakim and he recently just had open heart surgery .

So to see him , you know , doing well and moving out and about in the public , you know it makes me very happy , man , because he's one of our legends that need to be , you know , giving his flowers and a lot of respect put on his name and you know we just need to cherish Scarface man .

He's one of them ones , and I think he's one of the GOATs for real .

We actually saluted Scarface today on one of our segments that we also have every Thursday , which is our bar seminar , hip Hop Quota Ball of the Week , and we gave him two . We gave him a quote from his first album and we gave the quote for a feature that he had on the Dynasty Journal with him , jay and Beans .

And one of the things I can tell you , man , just to be transparent , I didn't grow up on Scarface like that . I'm being completely honest . Scarface was with the Ghetto Boys . I tapped in but I wasn't locked in , if that makes sense , right . And then when he definitely went solo , I still really wasn't tapped in like that . I wasn't locked in like that .

I was heavy into New York music , of course , new York hip hop at that time . But what got my attention for Scarface was the fact that he's always showed love to every region that he went to and he was collaborating with the Rock during that time and collaborating with Nas on the IM joint . I paid attention .

I was like , oh , this is the Scarface that people was talking about for these years , right . And I just wonder if you remember he was talking about doing a Beans and Mac album . It was supposed to be him and Beanie Siegel and it never came to light .

I wonder , if that would have happened , would that have gave him an extra oomph , you know , amongst the Northeast region , or would that still solidify who he really is ? And again , dope artist , dope MC , one of the greats , pure legend , and I'm glad that we had an opportunity to get the Discord to actually show him some love on that Discord dialogue .

And you know , I just one thing about Scarface he's , you know , not doing a whole lot of lyrical miracle stuff , but he's one of the few rappers that had the ability to , you know , get you in your feelings you know what I'm saying and tug on your heartstrings and , like , hit that deeper level of emotion in you when you're listening to the music .

You know what I mean because it resonates with you on a different level . Um , you know he was one of the first I've ever heard do that . You know , whether it be on tracks . Like you know , a minute to pray is , um , a second to die . You know , uh , seeing a man die , um , smile , like you know , he countless tracks that .

You know , scarface , and you know we honored his verse on this can't be life for a feature . So scarface was always in that bag . Um , some other of my favorites are uh , mary jane , heaven . Um , guess who's back with gene ? Uh , with jay-z , with Jay-Z and Beans , and I mean he just got classic material all over the place .

And when you finally started recognizing that Scarface was as dope as everybody was telling you , sean , what was some of the tracks outside of the collaborations that did it for you ?

but when I heard him on there with nas going back and forth , you know , mike for mike , that's when it resonated with me , because it's , like you know , at 99 , I'm 19 at this time , so that's when it actually resonated with me . Then he followed that up , you know , and got on a track with Jay and Beans on .

You know , this can't be life and the way , just the emotion . You know him and Ghostface , when they get into that emotional rap bag , no one can do better . They're like A1B , right , right . And hearing the story behind that verse even brings it home even more .

You know what I'm saying , because it was a legit emotion that he exuded on that record and for me I was like that's top tier mcn right there , absolutely storytelling right there . No , not many people can do that at that clip , at that clip . So that's what ? One of the things that for me again was back-to-back years again .

I've always appreciated him , but 99 2000 was when I was like , okay , he's one of one , he is right , that's right yeah yeah , yes , sir , man and um .

Um , as far as storytelling ability , he ranks up their top five . You know , just behind . You know we mentioned nas . You got big slick , rick , ghost face , scar faces in that five in my opinion and we talked about , you know , the ability to Um Hit you Differently emotionally . You know what I mean .

And for me Scarface is definitely Top five , like hey , you said him and Ghost was 1A and 1B For you . For me , my top five , in no particular order In that aspect , is Popface , dmx , uh Button and um and uh face , dmx , uh button and um and uh ghost face . So you know those are all elite as well in that department . So you know , salute to scarface .

We appreciate you and your contributions to the

game . It's been the first edition of discord dialogues and um . We're gonna do this again next week , so it'll be a new poll in our discord and we'll vote on somebody else to talk about on our next week's show . No doubt , and I know coot wanted to be a part of in our Discord and we'll vote on somebody else to talk about on our next week's show .

Sure , aj , we got a couple of super chats and we're going to move on .

Joe Car a comment saying that first I thought he just said that his mixtape catalog is better than Lil Wayne's mixtape catalog , but then I saw on Billboard where he stated it was Lil Wayne and 50 Cent that he was better than both .

He didn't say specifically mine is better than wayne's , mine is better than 50s , but he wasn't backing down that his mixtape catalog was the best out of anybody else . Man listen , I don't even think he has a top five mixtape catalog .

50 Cent made mixtapes like it was an actual , legit album , absolutely Changed the dynamic landscape . All of that you can't forget . And again , wayne mixtape run , in my opinion , is what made Wayne gave him that contention during that time as one of the greatest MCs of all time .

I never thought that he was one of the greatest MCs of all time personally , but that mixtape run that he had put him in the pantheon of those that were great right mixtape and features .

I have a hard time even thinking about just the songs , I mean just the albums , that he put out mixtape-wise . If they're trumping the things that I heard from Jadakiss and I heard from Styles P during that era . It's tough for me , bro .

I think the name of joe button before we get to the podcast and his legend was built off , more so the mixtape versus his mainstream success , like you know , to pump it up and you know nobody was really into the retail versions of the albums he was putting out . And the reason why I say that is because of the albums he was putting out .

And the reason why I say that is because of the Mood Music series . Mood Music series is legendary and has a lot of lore behind it himself because when people think of Joe as the rapper , they refer to him , they think of him in that vein .

You know what I mean Because , like you mentioned Styles P , but we're not when we say Styles P , we're not running to Ghost in the shell or you know , referencing that , as you know , part of his legend . So that's why I say Joe's is top five and I have my personal top five and you know it's based on a certain resume , you know .

And Joe , he can throw his you know name in the hat . I don't think he has the best , but I think it's . You know it's not . You know , between him and I got , I got 50 Cent first Right , and his resume is you know guess who's back . Which he got the deal off of that . Eminem was listening to that over and over and that's what made him sign 50 .

Then you had the G unit joints 50 Cent is the future , no mercy , no fear . And then God's plan , which are all three super fire classic mixtapes that had the streets buzzing like crazy during that time . And this is before get which get richard dot try , and he was already kind of out of here . You know what I mean .

And um , he also has the g unit radio mixtape series . So I think 50s resume is pretty , pretty untouchable as far as the mixtape could like to . You alluded to sean . He changed the game . You know , far as the mixtape you alluded to Sean , he changed the game in the whole mixtape landscape , making them like people were copying them like albums .

You know what I mean , because it was a different level of care and quality that was being put into the mixtapes . And when you do a mixtape and you're rapping over other people's beats or whatever , when you do it to a point where you're making certain songs your own , where people don't even reference their original joint no more , you know what I'm saying .

That's when you know that you changed the game on the mixtape level . So number two I got Wayne , of course , his resume . You brought him up the dedication in the Gangsta Grill series with DJ Drama , classic series . He also got the Drought series , which is my personal favorite series of his . I think the Drought is elite work , both versions of that .

And then he has the no Ceiling series , which is tough too . So I got Wayne at number two . Then I got Joe Budden at number three , just off the Strength of Mood music series . I mean it brings up areas I really think Joe has acclaimed to top mixtape artists . You know what I mean .

I think he knows where his , you know where he can compete in that arena , and it's the mixtapes .

I don't think he would ever , you know , say he's better than you know , wayne , or whoever else like on a commercial aspect , but he knows he's one of them ones when it comes to the mixtape material Four , I got Fabulous , based on the Soul Tapes , and then the Summertime Shootout series and then my favorite Fabulous mixtape is actually Lozo's way Rise to Power .

So I got him at four . Number five , you already mentioned Jadakiss , the Champ is here , series with DJ Green Lanj , green lantern fire , and then all the d block mixtapes . I mean , if you were , you know out and about , if you was outside when the d block mixtapes was dropping , it was a special time . It was a special time for real .

But that's my top five uh mixtape artists .

Mad Max , appreciate the $10 super chat . Joe a crackhead and don't got better mixtapes than 50 . 50 got the greatest mixtapes catalog ever . I have 50 at number one . It's not close . O2 50 was running my older kids . O2 50 was running my older kids treating them like Hov and Nas before Get Rich . Yeah , yeah , 50 is that guy . Cj , with another $5 super chat .

We appreciate you , bro . Moot Music 2 is general consensus , classic fellas it is . You know what I'm saying and I love all them joints , but Moot Music 2 is special . Mad Max , again appreciate you . I'm tired of the 50 disrespect . 50 was him that had us wearing bulletproof vests . I was six years old telling my moms I need the vest , like 50 .

And I have to hear out of town guys tell me about Wayne's whack itch . Mad Max is wild man , but we appreciate the $10 Super Chat . Max , no , ill Magic with the $5 Super Chat . But we appreciate the $10 super chat . Max , no , ill Magic with the $5 super chat . Do you guys think mixtapes slash ?

Independent albums should be in the base with major label mainstream albums based on . Which is the better project ? You care if I answer that real quick , sean , please . Yeah , when we're ranking artists , I count everything .

You know what I mean If they got a mixtape catalog , if they got a feature run , if they got , you know , solo catalog , if they belong to a group . When I'm ranking artists , I encompass everything that that artist has ever put out personally .

50 50 mixtape made him a legend , got him a record deal , got him one of the best record deals for an artist , right ? So you got to count some of that . And lil wayne's mixtape is what helped boost his credibility amongst the hip hop world , right ? Not only that for me , I'll be honest . I will put the Gainz mixtape run over Joe's mixtape run .

It was like the Get Rich something or whatever , but he was on a cover , started off with the Chicken Little theme or whatever .

The only thing that I think hurt banks long run was he did so well on a mixtape circuit when it was time to get into that .

You know that true catalog , um , I think the sound , I think that his muffled sound , um hurt him more than anything else because , it's the range in his voice , um , the inflections of his voice weren't carrying over , um , because the flow was just like here .

It was like just a even kill , yeah , it was even kill , and I think that hurt his um , his overall discography , um , from my , if my actual release , um , and not just the mixtape , but mixtape wise he was out of control let me , let me ask you this , sean .

So what was it like when you know you came back home from boot camp you know what I'm saying the mom and pop spots and you had the bodega .

So what was it like when you know you came back home from boot camp you know what I'm saying and like I don't think a lot of people understand like when you go to certain outlets to cop mixtapes , it was like we did that down there like copping albums .

You know , yeah , like you want to talk about what that was like on the New York scene when you came home it was still different because when I came back I got back in like the latter part of 98 .

Love had all of it was written on his actual , on his mixtape . All of it was not in sequence , it was all over the place . His mixtape all of it was not in sequence , it was all over the place . But I remember jay love had all as it was written and he has another couple of uh , unreleased niles freestyles on that mixtape .

I heard that going to um it's a basketball camp like crazy . I heard it was written before it , actually by two weeks before it came out . So I remember jay love was like the one and then it started going into coachies . Then you start seeing you know big , then you start seeing you know Big Mike , then you start seeing it was on Pooh started coming around .

So you know again , you know you Big Cap , who had the big names . You had Flex , of course , the Clue mixtapes . You had so many different variety to go to Make a baby yeah , there was so many during that time . Everybody . It was all about where can I get this freestyle from ?

If I can get this freestyle first , I gotta put it out first as a j , especially in new york , because in new york at that time everyone was vying to get that , that one , so that one take . They had to get that one take right and um , and I think it was like a competition to get that one take , because at one point you get flex , get your joint .

He's putting the l-bombs on it . That was what it was .

But I think you know cj the kid , um , we chatted , like you know , on a discord , on a , on like a one-on-one channel and , uh , because he's really having to mix tape and I , I think I told CJ the Kid a few weeks ago that in my era of mixtape it was about not so much as finding the DJ per se , like the Clue or the Flex .

It was about seeing who had the best collection of freestyles on the mixtape . That was my scenery at that time . We didn't really care about you know , for a minute . We didn't care about the full length album . We wanted to get the Lucys on a complete CD . So we made the CD ourselves .

I think the 50 movement , yeah , you know , brought a lot of that to it and every region started getting a piece of the pie , and that's when the South started getting a piece of the pie . You had you know , putting out the drama series and you had other joints that were just coming out of nowhere . Man , it was just a great time .

Tape Masters Inc had an amazing run , very stellar catalog for the Tape Masters Inc . Miss LB 10 out of Super Chat . Appreciate you . Appreciate you um very stellar catalog for the tape masters inc . Uh , miss lb , it's another super chat . Appreciate you . Appreciate you um . Just want to show some love .

I'm glad you said it . Um , the mixtapes had the artwork and that's something that CJ the Kid specializes in . He's gonna send us some stuff that you know , take it back to that , to that aesthetic . You know I'm saying when the mixtape artwork was crazy . Um , another thing we was looking for on the mixtapes , like you said , sean , was the lineups .

We was looking . You know we treated them like albums .

So we was looking at who was on there , what freestyles , what disses was on there and who had the best lineup nori even talked about this sometimes on a drink champ , like if you got first placement on a clue tape , like if you was the opening song , that meant a lot , you know to , to artists back then , you know . So they were competing for placements .

It was not like yo , I'm going to just do this freestyle and you know , get this one off and hand it to clue and that be that . No , you was competing like yo . I'm trying to be track number one out the gate on a clue tape . You know what I'm saying . So I'm giving it my best . This is not for my album , but I'm still giving it my best .

It was highly competitive and it was just a beautiful time man Like , and I miss . I miss that mixtape era . You know it's something I wish you know it was . It was lightning in a bottle . You know what I mean , but it's something that I could like . You know that I wish that we could go back and experience again , man , because it was .

It was a fun time we could go back and experience again , man , because it was a fun time .

The a and r was like you can't do that , like this is not . You can't be dis and bad boy . And I wasn't really dis and bad boy , I was just on the play of words and um , but yeah , yeah you was just ahead of your time .

I mean we had mixtapes here in West Virginia , so it wasn't just you know , mixtapes was everywhere as far as I know .

He meant to cut the whole verse but left two on accident , right ?

The thing about it is when Beef and we're going to transition here , man , I wish Coop was here .

The Beef mixtapes were the ones that to me got the attraction because , remember , when Beef got like crazy , crazy , everyone took it to the mixtape circuit Game , capitalized off of it because he was able to do an entire , you know like I think about three or four mixtapes when he's dumping all over G-Unit . He went crazy . It was crazy .

Like Coop said Street Sweepers , empire Strikes Back . Right , we're going crazy because K-Slave was the , you know God . Rest his soul , rest in peace to K-Slave .

But K-Slave was the godfather of those beef mixtapes , uh-huh , and you think about it during that time , ag , especially in 2000 and 2001 , when everything started like really ramping up , because we didn't really start seeing the true beef mixtapes until 2001 . Because that's when everything shaked out , because lines were drawn . You know what I mean .

Either you were with Jay or you were with Nas . Lines were drawn . You know what I mean . Either you were with Jay or you were with Nas . And if you were with Jay , you were with Rockefeller , you were with State Prop . You know you had that Philly movement that was behind them very heavy . Or you was on the Nas side where you had Ray out there .

You know you had Kiss . X was on that other side because at that time X was like you know , I want to give you the crown so I can shoot off your fucking head . Right , you heard what I said , you know , so you had that going on .

You know you had , you know , Kiss and Beans , kind of locking horns and all of that stuff , all of those great disc records , was on one space , on a mixtape .

But on a mainstream scale , the rapid fire that these this tracks was being released at in in real time between Drake and then you know , hours later getting to Kendrick , you know , meet the grams . And then you know , next day , not like us and stuff , and people's mind was like blown because it's like at the .

With the internet and social media , everything is like instantaneous . You know instantaneous but , and you know instantaneous um but , and you know about it right off the bat .

But this same thing was happening when , when kiss and beans were going at each other , them dudes was at the studio every single night , like I was at the mixtape spot , like every week , because they were dropping freestyles , they were getting played on the radio , they was getting released on uh , napster and um I don't know if you remember Audio , galaxy and

LimeWire like all these joints was coming out like day after day after day . I even heard Button talk about it on his podcast . He's like when we was like at war , we was dissing , he was like we would go to the studio if we heard somebody else say something .

We would go to the studio that night and we wasn't worried about mixing and mastering like the quality , we didn't care about that , we just had to be , you know , prompt and get it out as fast as possible you know what I'm saying and put it on the tapes or whatever .

So we've seen this before , but with social media not being a part of that , back then , you know , everybody wasn't in to know about it . Back then , you know , everybody wasn't in the know about it . But if you were in you , if you were of the culture and were staying involved in the mixtape circuit or what have you , you know you knew that .

You know all these joints was coming out back to back , to back the , the disses and the responses , like it was real rapid fire back then .

It's a personal hurt which brings us to the Cole stuff , the Drake stuff , the Jay stuff you know what I mean the Kendrick stuff . Because back then when you had mixtaping , you had the battles , it was like I'm going for your head top , I gotta take you up out of here , I can't let you get the best of me . Because back then the stakes were so high .

If Nasu lost that battle it could have changed the trajectory of his legacy , because it was a situation where everything was like stacked up in a certain way right . You had to be alive to understand , you had to be active to understand what that means . The stakes were high .

But if you really think about it , bro , and this is something that and we're going to bring it back to the present day Back then there were some alliances out there , but it was on some I got to be . You know I have to have allegiance to you because I'm on the record label or we're collaborating a lot .

You know what I mean Nas collaborated with Ray Ghost . You know AZ Mob . Yeah , they had their mob , they had their own thing . Jay was more on that Rockefeller wave , so he had his crew love on that side , yep , and when things started clashing , everything started scattering . You start seeing who was who . What side are you on ? You know what I mean .

You're not my friend because I don't really rock with you like that . I just collaborate with you .

In today's hip hop you got someone like Drake . You got someone like Cole , who may have misread the room . You feel me Definitely misread the room . He missed the room Because , if you think about it , he misread the room . You feel me Definitely misread the room .

He missed the room Because , if you think about it , I mean he misread the room because , you think about it , he thought that one of the things he thought they were friends , he thought that they were friends as Drake is looking at it like yo , I got to be the number one guy . I want to be the gold of this , I want to be the go-to this thing .

Looking at it , I just want to be friends . I just want to be , you know , rap buddies . You know what I mean . I want to collaborate . Drake's mind is like nah , homie , I want to take out Kendrick . I want to take that guy out because I need for him to move what Nas said . In order for Jay to be the Don , nas had to go . Jay knew that too .

In order for me to be the undisputed champ in hip hop , because it is competitive , I need to take him out .

But I think Cole came at it . You know Cole saw them slinging mud and didn't want to get dirty . He was like I got this . You know what I'm saying . I'm not trying to get dirt on my clothes or whatever . He alluded to in the bars on the new song that we're going to talk about . That they got both of their blood on him , you know .

But I don't think he knew what that entailed when he initially entered the beef . You know , because if we're looking at a track record of Cole , him apologizing really is kind of consistent with how he moved in other situations .

I wouldn't call him beast , but when he dissed no Name on Snow of the Bluff , he ended up retweeting her response and then pretty much apologizing about how he came at her . When he dissed Lil Pump , he ended up sitting down with Lil Pump and having a productive conversation with him .

So I don't think Cole has ever been that guy to engage in a beef and really want to take it to a dirty place where it's like the gloves is off . You know what I mean . I don't think Cole has ever been that guy to engage in a beef and , you know , really want to take it to a dirty place where it's like the gloves is off .

You know what I mean , because think about how weird and corny it would have looked . You know if , if Cole came into the beef on some rapid rap type stuff like yo , I got more bars than Kendrick . Blah , blah , blah , better flow . You know your last album was a dud , this and that .

Meanwhile they throwing Drake and Kendrick throwing crazy allegations at one another like yo , you're a woman beater , yo , you're a pedophile , like they're really , you know , going after character assassination . Cole didn't want that . He wasn't on that kind of time .

He wanted to say who is the better rapper , who is the best with the pen , and he found out that the battle wasn't going to go in that direction , so he bowed out of it . And you know we were talking on the phone earlier today and I was just like yo , that's like both of us .

If me and you were boxers , right , and you know I'm saying I'm the nicest with the hands , or whatever . But I'm thinking about everybody else in the field . Like you know , I'm the nicest , I'll knock anybody out . And then you saying , you know , you , my homie .

But you saying yourself like , wait a minute now I'm the nicest with the hands , I'll knock anybody out . So we both can't be the nicest . So let's get in the ring . And I'm still thinking you , my man , and I'm jabbing and I'm pulling my punches , but you throwing haymakers at me and I'm like , wait a minute , I didn't sign up for this .

I think I'm thinking we doing some friendly sparring here just to see who the best technical boxer , whatever . But you're trying to knock my head off . You know what I'm saying . So I think that's the angle that Kendrick came from .

Kendrick was like , all right , cole , you know what I'm saying , if you stepping in the ring , be prepared , because you know I'm not taking any prisoners . But Cole was like , wait a minute , I don't want to lose . You know , our brotherhood , our friendship .

I'm Switzerland , I respect and you know , like both of you guys , let me take myself out of the situation . You know what I mean . So at the end of the day , he realized that in real time . So at the end of the day , he realized that in real time .

You know what I mean Because you know , I think I said this on one of our first shows and you know , shout out to my girl , you know what I'm saying . She was the one that told me that , like , when Cole was popping stuff about being the best , you know , maybe he was trying to convince himself . You know what I mean .

Like you know that self-affirmation talk . You know that self-affirmation talk .

And when he was talking about being better or killing these other rappers , honest to God , I don't think he meant in a battle or going back and forth , because he's not of that pedigree , but I think he meant in the respect of , like yo , if we get on a track together and I'm a featured artist , then I'm going to have the better verse .

I'm going to show you up that I'm the better MC . And then I'm going to have the better verse . I'm going to show you up that I'm the better MC and that . I think that's where his mindset was . But if it comes down to stepping in the ring and going mano a mano .

He's made it clear that that's not his bag or his pedigree , because he don't want to take it somewhere where other people are willing to go . He did it from a friendship aspect but say , for instance I talked to you about this earlier like mgk did what he had to do against him , but he idolized him and them .

But like drake said , sometimes you gotta a I . You know , when rivals become your idols , become rivals , you gotta a for your survival . Like mgk did what he had to do against him and , if you ask me , I think MGK won that battle , but I mean , the public won't say that , but MGK had reverence for him and did what he had to do .

Some people are willing to mix it up regardless of the relationship that's at stake , and some people aren't . And just Cole just happens to be one of those people that's not willing to mix it up and risk the relationship . And he alluded to that and I can respect that .

You know now , as far as him , you know articulating that from his vantage point I don't know .

He probably felt like , okay , I'm going to jump out the window real quick on Kendrick , because I kind of feel this way , because I'm getting pressured to say these things . I may not really mean it . There might be some truth to what I'm saying about the last album was trash or whatever the case may be . I'm going to jump out the window on Kendrick .

And then he started realizing that , okay , maybe that wasn't the right idea , because Drake has this that he's going to go at Kendrick with . He's going to dirty everything up Because Cole wants to make it just a rap battle . He just want to go rapity rap . He just want to see who had the best skills , who can get on the mic and do their thing .

He prides himself on being the one that kills the features . That's what he prides himself on .

Not only that , he feels that if I get on the track with any of these guys , I can hold my own and in some cases I can smoke both of their boots , but when it started getting nasty , he don't want no parts of that because he didn't want to be a part of the whatever was going to come out of that .

On the other side of that and I think that's where he misread the room he did . I'm going gonna pause real quick right there because we got some super chats coming in . I don't want to get too far down this rabbit hole .

Uh , nas discord mega on destroying , rebuild . Um is what cole saying ? Damn that friendship-ish . Boom your mans and turn your head when you end them Like the Sahara . Two lions can't own the pride and peace . Yeah , I mean , one of them got to go right .

But you can't jump out the window and then retract and then go back and start , I guess , trying to clean it up or trying to justify why you pull it back . If that makes sense , I feel this is him justifying why he did what he did .

At one point he said to be considered the best or live and rest the weight of both things . I understand the thirst of being first . That made them both swing Protecting legacy . So lines got crossed , perhaps regrettably , my friends went to war . I walked away with all that . They blood on me .

Now some discredit me , try to wipe away my pedigree , but please find a nigga out here that's rapping this incredibly , you know . So he's saying , like you know , I'm still the nicest with the pen , even though people are going to discredit me for not engaging in this . And you know I I took the moral high ground or whatever .

But with all that said , I still think I'm the nicest with the pen and I can't be mad at him for that . But he just wasn't willing to prove it . Mono and mono when it comes to stepping in the ring , you know .

But to your point , he said , if you know , he used the metaphor that he said his homie texted him If you refuse to shoot the gun doesn't mean the gun ain't deadly . But then he said later on he said the gun ain't what I'm trying to be . So he's telling him like yo , I understand your metaphor .

You know I'm not shooting the gun , so the gun ain't you know that doesn't mean the gun ain't deadly . But I'm not trying to be a gun . I'm not trying to like spread negativity , violence or whatever . So I'm not even on that kind of time . What ?

. Bro wants to be Switzerland . He obviously wants to be cool with everybody because he said his piece to Kendrick in the song as well as saying his piece to Drake , and he don't want no smoke with either one of them .

You know what I mean , and I think he learned that lesson in real time , because sometimes you think you want a certain challenge in life and then that life come and hit you in the face , like , like mike tyson said , everybody got a plan until you get punched in the mouth , right and then that you know I'm saying it right , right , and then in real time , he

learned the lesson . But he talked about , like , social media and the memes and all that stuff and you know , some people might say like whatever , you know you know what I'm saying . Cold , don't got thick skin . A lot of people don't . You know what I mean .

But we live in an era where you know everything is going to get scrutinized or what have you , and he didn't want no parts of that . You know what I'm saying .

So , um , he I think he was able to articulate um , all that well , and I think he just wants to make good music and I'm glad he released this song as a Lucy , you know , to just put it out there , because everybody was waiting for him to address this Right , and some people are going to take it for what it is .

Some people are going to say I still don't rock with you , whatever , but I'm just glad it's out here because now he could put off the out , the fall off . I don't . I'm not thinking this is going to be on the album .

Yeah , I think it would be a mistake if it was , because I think he needs to let the album live on his own merit and not have this stain attached to it that has to do with him apologizing in the battle , even though he cooked on this record .

Like when you sent me , you sent me the track and before I pressed play on it , you know I'm saying I was like , okay , let me , let me you're up to listen to it . Then I pressed play and I heard the , the melody you know I'm saying from the dead president sample and I was like yo , he better be talking on here .

Once I heard that melody I was like bro better be talking . And to me he did . He delivered because everybody wanted a response from him , right , and we got that . And we got that in a masterful way that you can either take it or you can leave it . You know what I'm saying and I and I and I mess with it . You know what I'm saying .

Those are the best records .

Because I because , if you , I'm hearing people talk about the way Cole took this whole thing and how you know this track and I thought he was going to get love . When I I first heard it , I was like , okay , they're going to show love . And I called one of my homies shout out to Drake . He's from Charlotte , big Cold fan .

He's been a Cold fan since inception and he said I didn't like it . He said because it was too indecisive . He don't know what he want . He wants to be friends , but he don't know what that friendship look like . Because even in this record he mentioned like Drake , you're still my friend , you're still asking for friendship .

When these guys are not asking for friendship , my dude , they're not looking at you for a friend , they're looking at you . You are fooled right now Because I think I told you earlier , drake want to be number one , absolutely . He doesn't care about anything else , he wants to be number one .

Kendrick doesn't really care about number one , he just care about being ahead of Drake .

But I can imagine that he's torn personally and internally because he's looking at it like he dropped four joints already in the past couple of weeks , right Last week this is his fourth , lucy , and he's talking around different subject matters to try to bring back the feel that he is still cold , which we know what you can do on a mic . That's the question .

The question is who are you at this point ? Because that Brad Gadoch's style that you had before ? That person can't come out and play , no more , right ? That person can't , you can't .

Not really , because to that point about Cole , I think , with a lot of this stuff , you know he thought he wanted to be the number one guy but he didn't know what he had to do to get there and he didn't want to sling mud . So now he's indifferent about it . You know , I think Nas initially was hell . Nas was still indifferent after he beat Jay .

You know what I'm saying . He was hell . Nas was still indifferent after he beat Jay . You know what I'm saying .

He just raps , yeah , and that's , you know , and there's nothing . There's nothing wrong with that . Um , I'm gonna get lb . Then I got uh something else to add on that shout out to miss lb . We appreciate you . Um , she said , oh , back to miss lb . Yeah , there you go .

I listened , uh , to let go my hand today , and I got a thought did we miss or skip over Cole telling us he was never that type of dude since the beginning ? I keep a tough demeanor on the surface . Yeah , that's my point . And I said my girl said the same thing . Cole was lying to himself , bro was trying to convince himself .

And another point to that we're all human and we all have human emotions . Right ? Everybody's been in a relationship where you know , whether it be a friendship or a spouse or whatever , where you know everything is not being reciprocated , or you know what I'm saying . Like you said , sean , like Cole's looking at him like these are my friends .

You know what I'm saying , these are my brothers . They probably don't look at Cole like that , but we've all had homies like we might have yo , you know I'm saying that's my dog , I do whatever . And your homie over there , like you know what I'm saying , I don't mess with you know what I mean . Like we've all had relationships like that .

Unfortunately , that's a human thing , so he probably has that desire to be linked with them more so than they him . But you know that's the type of person cole is , evidently , and he had to learn that about himself what does this do for him right now at this point ?

And if you , if you had an open mind to begin with , like you know , cole really let me down by apologizing , but I would just kind of like to know why he did that . Jada said that , like when Jada was on you know one show I forget what it was Jada was like I just want to know why . You know what I'm saying .

Like maybe I'll learn more you know about why he did it and I can make an opinion from there , but I just I'd like to hear him say why and you know Styles P was conflicted . He was like yo , the rapper in me , wanted to go . But you know what I'm saying . The mental health guy understand where he was coming from .

So I think it's a very polarizing thing still . Yet you know what I'm saying . But , um , I mean the message is there just to get into some more bars real quick . Um , in the first verse he said I've seen and this is one of my favorite bars . He said I've seen lifelong friends turn the devil in shops .

I was mike and red leather trying to tell him to stop . You better beat it before you see the heavy metal get popped . You know he was talking about somebody he came up with , but it's another metaphor in there . Um , because you know kendrick and drake , they went back and forth , shout out to coop talking about prince at the beginning of the show .

But there was a lot of back and forth in the drake and kendrick battle with them pointing fingers like no , you might , I'm prince , I'm Prince , no , you , prince , I'm Mike . You know back and forth . But Cole , you know , inserts himself here , you know , with this bar , saying I'm Mike in red leather , you know what I'm saying . And the beat it video .

The beat it video was Mike trying to stop two rival gangs from going at it . You know what I'm saying . And he's in the middle of them and everybody came in with Harmony at the end and did their little dance number .

I think Cole really thought in his head that we're going to spar on some rap stuff , see who's the best , and then afterwards we're going to kumbaya and bring each other out in concerts and feature on each other's tracks and that's going to be that . But , to use your word , sean , kendrick and Drake were preparing for a higher level of warfare .

That Cole wasn't , he wasn't . But then he goes on the second verse . I pulled the plug because I've seen where that was about to go . They wanted blood , they wanted clicks to make their pockets grow . They see the fire in my pen and think I'm dodging smoke . I wouldn't have lost the battle dog , I would have lost a bro , I would have gained the foe .

All for what ? Just to attain the mode like so . Obviously he's not willing to throw away his friendship and brotherhood with kendrick and or drake just for the sake of winning the battle and saying I got the props to be , you know , number one or whatever . He's not willing to do that . And I was , you know , and I'll pass it back to you after this .

I was talking to my homie this morning and he said you know , I think the best takeaway from this is I brought up indifference . I think one of the best takeaways from this is just to be indifferent . I guess you know you can still feel the same way you felt about Cole before he articulated his reason for doing it .

But I think this is something you still got to respect .

I don't think it changes his position any because when he relinquished that by not engaging in battle one-on-one , I don't think you can objectively put him , even if you think he's a better technical rapper , yes , but in the ranks I don't think you can objectively put him over Drake or Kendrick at this point because he forfeited .

You could say if he would have played he would have won , but we'll never know because he forfeited . But you got to respect the move and him telling this , you know telling his reasoning for doing that Cause my homie was like look , man , and shout out , shout out to my homie , mike and Greensboro . He was just like look .

He said it's like if a guy cheats on his wife or whatever and comes clean like yo , baby , you know what I'm saying , I did this , this and I feel like I need need to be honest to you . You know what I'm saying . And then the wife might say you know what . I appreciate your honesty . I really respect that . You did that . But me and the kids .

We still bouncing , we still leaving you . You know what I'm saying , so I mean the repercussions can still be there , but all I'm saying is you know , respect what he did and being able to articulate his mood .

You just want to make sure that you stop them in their tracks , but you don't want to take them down . You just want to make sure that you stop them in their tracks , but you don't want to hurt them . Right , it's a contact sport . Because hip hop is so aggressive , because the nature of hip hop is competitive . You can still compete . You don't have to .

You don't have to sling mud , you don't have to do all of that .

And that it'll get into that room and they're barking and a bunch of alphas looking at him like the pain has got no attention and they keep talking to one another , right , and that beta's still barking loud and they're getting louder . And just because you're getting louder , that doesn't mean you're an alpha . You don't belong in this circle .

I don't think he's saying I wouldn't Literally I wouldn't have lost . I don't think that's what he's saying .

We still accept him , but we accept him in his manner because he's not part of this cloth . He's not going to get down when things get down . You feel me . I think Kendrick knows that because I think out of this cloth he's not going to get down .

He has to get it off of his chest Because we're talking about we're several months removed from all of that .

We can't say that his style , what he brings to the game of hip-hop , we can never say that's in question . We can't say that right , if anything and again , I'm not doing , I'm just saying from my opinion , from reading the comments , and we appreciate all the love . Thank you all for the comments , thank you for the super chats , thank you for the engagement .

But what I'm seeing from everyone , for most of the people out there , they can't respect the weakness Because this is hip-hop , this is not R ? R&b , this is not a docile genre of music , this is an aggressive nature of music . We have too much history in this genre of music to state that there are times you got to take it there .

There's you can't , just you can't , like you said earlier there . But you know nas wasn't asking for those things in 2001 , but he knew he had to take it there . Absolutely , there's no way around it . Absolutely . Yeah , you may have to confront somebody in your life . Yeah , yeah , and Cole's not like that .

And he found himself in this situation , would he still take himself , you know , out of it or engage , like you know what I mean ? What if it was ? Well , no , I'm going to answer my own question .

He considers Wale a close friend and he went at Wale before , you know , and they were cool afterwards , but he went at Wale , he's went at Wale , he's went at Kanye and yeah , no , I mean he's .

But he walks back a lot , but this is the biggest walk back , but this is not the first time he's walked something back and in that regard , he's a very conflicted individual . You know , I think somebody super chatted , he can't make his mind up and you alluded to it .

He doesn't know what he wants to be , but you know , after all this I mean he just got to be comfortable in his own skin , like whatever placement he's at , and you know it's competitive , you concede it to get in that top spot . So that's over with . Exactly , that's over with .

So you know if , even if he drops a classic , I know you know , shout out to Coop , he says , if he drops his , his Cuban links , or something like that , that could change things . I don't think it can . I don't think it shifts his placement , but it maybe garners him more respect in certain circles that don't have it for him right now .

I don't think Cole is like the rollout guy .

Like I said , you could take it or you could leave it , but as far as just the aspect of addressing it , do you leave it alone after this or do you like touch on that topic some more within the course of the fall off album , or do you move on completely ?

And if you listen to that album , that whole album is centered around reacting to how the beef and the battle went down , reacting to Kanye's part that he played in it , reacting to what Pusher said said I'm not hiding a kid from the world , like you know .

I'm saying I'm not hiding a child or whatever and to me that brought down the quality of what the album could be , could have been because he's spending the time reacting to that throughout the whole album and I don't think cole should do that he still puts you know , the albums were successful .

So the follow-up what Kupo always said he has to follow this up with a stellar album .

Biggie really did not respond to Tupac . That's a fact , and I'm a big fan , think he's the greatest . And please do not say who shot you or the ugliest with Busta Rhymes . That was not released . Yeah , and we give Big a pass for that . And you know in real time when I was a teenager . We never know when these things are recorded .

When I heard you know Long Kiss Goodnight , I thought that was nasty work . Love the record . It's a dope record , but I'm like you record this after a man's got killed , like you know what . I'm like you record this after man's got killed . You didn't say nothing when he was here breathing . I looked at that in real time .

That's nasty work , but it was a dope record though . But Big get a pass for that .

Just not responding all together or engaging , like you know , sticking your toe in the water to check the temperature and then you know pulling your foot back out , like you know , sticking your toe in the water to check the temperature and then you know pulling your foot back out , like you know what I'm saying . Because he did drop a record .

It wasn't that great , it was pretty good , but it was all right , but it wasn't great , didn't get the reaction he wanted , so then he pulled the record . Would we have more respect for Cole if he didn't engage at all ? Because there's been a lot of times where people just didn't engage because button was going at , you know , drake's .

You know he released the whole dis ep to drake and , you know , killed him on them joints . But drake didn't think it was worth his time to respond , so he didn't respond . But nobody holds that against drake not responding creates With ambiguity .

But like I said , before .

Like he posted a joint with Aaliyah God bless the dead and posted a picture of Solange for Jay .

He said we wouldn't even be talking about you if we wasn't beeping . So I mean it's a lot of truth to what Cole said , but he just walked it back .

He's doing a cover art with OVO camp .

I think Coop was in that picture . Actually , coop was in the background . No , he wasn't . Coop was in that picture , the OVO picture that they got .

So you know , shout out to Coop , because he would say that at this juncture Tracy G with the $5 Super Chat Cole picked a side and he said as much Real Cole fans know , I think Cole is doing him now Right .

He don't have friends and now he's posted the pictures of someodge and Aaliyah just some wild stuff . You're not putting out music right now as far as like response or what have you . And the crazy thing about that , ag , and again I relate it to real life . I relate it to real things .

If we are part of a crew , each member of that crew may have a different relationship with each other . Absolutely Right , cole and Drake may have a different relationship than Cole and Kendrick . Drake and Kendrick , whatever that may look like , absolutely In all regard , the three of them don't have the same relationship at all .

Drake is saying people who I thought were my friends did not , you know , pull up with me when I was going through all of this stuff , and I wonder if that threw him off to the point right now where , like you said , now he's doing subliminals , allegedly at Jay , for whatever reason , because he feel like everyone chose a side .

I think that's what Drake is going through right now . He's in a vulnerable state because he lost the battle . When he lost the battle to Push , it wasn't that scary . He bounced back quick . He bounced back pretty quick , right ? Because Push didn't have the gravitas and the fanfare as a Kendrick , right ? So you lose to the guy that you want to beat .

I don't think he cared about beating Push , because he knows bar for bar . He can't spot Push . There's no way he could have never thought that . He went into this thinking that yo , I really can beat Kendrick .

The guy that he did the song with first-person shooter pulls out of the fight , you know what I mean ? Retracts everything . So now you're on an island .

Kendrick was just still standing there and didn't even swing back on him yet and Nicole was like yo , I'm sorry . Remember when , like you know , on the Avengers joint , where Hulk Buster was punching Hulk and then he stopped , he was like yo , I'm sorry , like you know what I'm saying . I think it was .

I think it was like that he didn't want was to come after that . No , like that he didn't want was to come after that . No , on the drake , on the drake side of things , I think it was one of those situations where you think you crew , crew , deep you know what I'm saying and you run into , you know your ops , so to speak , and it start off one v one .

You know you shooting a fair one , him and kendrick but other random people are jumping in , like you know what I'm saying snuffing you , and you looking around and your crew is nowhere to be found and you looking at them like yo , why ain't y'all help me ? You know what I'm saying , because I'm getting jumped , the whole 20 v 1 thing .

You know what I'm saying . So I think it's more . Drake has come to that realization and I'm sure he , you know , like Santa Claus , made a list and checked it twice and know all those cats and you know there's not going to be no more Drake stimulus packages as far as , like , jumping on features and doing these records with these people .

He's not going to do that . You know what I'm saying . But I did think him doing saying that on stage showed some . You know you got in your bag talking about Cole looking weak .

I'm saying that Drake looked weak in that moment Cause Drake very much is like Jay and they're the cool guys and , like you know , you usually never see him sweat Right Drake getting on stage like yo .

Anybody ever lost a real friend , like you know , and you and you know who your real friends are , but somebody going to stab you in the back , I mean that was to me that was like a sign of weakness , like even if he was feeling that inherently , don't get on stage and say that .

And it was even more embarrassing because if you watch the footage it's like they ain't even listening to Buddy , like you know , everybody's like talking over him and stuff like that . So , granted , he's in his feelings , but I don't think you go on stage and voice that you supposed to still be .

You know he's supposed to be unbothered , right , I mean , that's what they've been . You know Yachty said and um , you know what Drake was saying . Like this is not phasing them , but it's evidently taking a toll on them . But you don't get on stage and then let everybody know that . You know what I'm saying .

Whether if it was your friends that betrayed you or not , you don't go on stage and do that .

Yo , we got MJ with the five hour super chat . Appreciate you . Hip hop fans will never give Drake the title of GOAT of this generation because he will never make a full hip-hop album . Yeah , I think that's to his detriment . Yeah , absolutely .

He crossed the line and I had to shake it . I was in a funk for a minute because I was torn on . Do I put heads on them ? You know what I mean or just let them ? We just have to part ways and it was tough . I wrestled with that for a while you know what I mean .

And I think with Drake , when you think about , when I say compete , you've got friends out there that will compete with you and you won't even know it , absolutely there , that will compete with you and you won't even know it . Absolutely everything that you do , they're trying to do it at a higher clip . Yeah , but I just took a trip to the moon .

This , if I just took a trip to mars , you know , I mean just some weird stuff , yeah , a lot , because you think about the drake dynamic , the j dynamic , the cold , these dynamics everyone is running a separate race , but they're on the same path , you feel me , and they may not cross those paths that much , but the end game is to be the one regardless .

So they're all going to meet in the middle . Some kind of way , drake thought that him being on that path was going to put him in a position where he was going to be championed .

Right , and that's a different feeling , because when you feel like you're about to be championed as the one , like people are going to have your back and say , yo , let me put , let me bring it back real quick . Think about , bro and we got to get up out of here real soon the people that clap for you , that want to see you do well . That's happy for you

. When you got promoted to director at your practice and your friends reach out to you like yo , you inspired me . You inspired me when I got my role , I had real people reach out to me and be like yo man , you're doing it for the people , doing it for us . You represent you . We got you behind you a thousand percent .

But you had those fake friends in the background that's competing in their mind Like if he got it , I should have got it because I know what he's from .

He's starting to see that because you got someone like ross who came out and start this , and you have someone like Future who kind of lit the match and stepped away and haven't done anything since inception of the whole thing starting .

I see the moves that people make . I'm the same and I handle it as I handle it when I need to handle it . Whereas some people they process externally . A lot of artists , a lot of rappers , a lot of musicians . They wear their emotions on the sleeve , so their expression is through music . That's how they get it off . Drake's expression is through memes .

It's through memes and telling people . I heard my friends abandoned me . I thought these guys were my friends . He thought that pusher in Eclipse . He looked up to them . He didn't think that he'd be battling them and that pusher would go that far . He didn't anticipate that . He didn't think he would go that far right , he didn't anticipate that .

He didn't think you would go that far on me . I thought it was gonna be rappity rap .

Like you know , drake , like I'm , I thought these chicks was supposed to be for everybody . That's what you're saying in your music or whatever . But because I messed with Shorty over here that you also deal with or whatever , now it's a problem .

So you know , drake is coming from a vantage point where he's not reading the room because he's not used to moving , because drake , you know , grew up the corny guy . He probably didn't get chicks growing up and stuff , and now he can have any chick and he's pulling chicks . That's like , okay , you deal with my man's over here , but I could still have you .

So it's like he won't care or whatever , and that's not reading the room . And then you're sitting back yourself . You wonder , like you know , I wonder why everybody got a problem with me .

You know I'm saying but you , you the common denominator , bro , so you got to look in the mirror because if you're out here moving , moving , slimy , then you know it's going to be , it's going to be problem . So I think the big , the biggest thing between the two with cole I think this is cole in this song being self aware of who he is .

You know , with Drake and all this stuff about real friends and stuff like that , I don't , I don't think he's self aware , you know yeah . I just really don't you know what I mean , because you know a lot of his people that he considered friends were friends based on it was transactional as to what he could do for them .

So again , we'll see how this thing takes course . We may get another album , we may get something else , we may get something next week . You know what I mean ? We may get another Dis record next week . We'll see . Yeah , we got a super chat and we're going to close it out with our 98 playlist .

Drake definitely had a reason to cry on stage . He had no base in his voice . He found a real Canadian MJ with the 5.0 Super Chat Appreciate you . Hip-hop fans say they want Drake to rap . So he makes Scary Hours 3 , lowest Stream songs in his catalog .

You know , real quick , I was having um a conversation , like I said , with my homie this morning . He was talking about , you know , the Drake side of things , cause he's a big Drake fan and he's talking about Drake is more listenable and , you know , makes more palatable music for the masses versus , you know Kendrick and people go to Kendrick for .

You know the substance aspect . You know what I mean . So I think that's where is the fundamental split and rap , you know . And me personally , you know I like to listen to music and get a message out of it . You know , if I can listen to something and take something away from that , then I value that more than the entertainment value of it .

You know , because if we both watch hoop , you know what I mean I might be watching hoop and saying like yo , you know , that's a dope crossover by Kyrie , that's a dope dump by John . That's all I'm looking for , looking to a four and getting entertainment out of it . You might be watching it as a fellow hooper Like yo .

I don't even care about the entertainment . I'm seeing what I can add to my game by watching these guys to , like you know , really pull something from it of some substance that I can , you know , give to myself . So you know , I think that's the the split you know in hip hop .

So this is that segment we want you guys to enjoy , because we want you to actually put your seven songs in the chat and also follow us on Twitter , follow us on Facebook We'll put the links in the chat tonight so you can all know how to get to us and join our discord because we want you to also share your seven songs that you are playing in rotation

this week . So , with that said , with my man , coop , being in flight right now , we did a show last week . We did what we call the Brunch on Sundays . It was a 98 edition . We talked about the four records that were released on September 29th 1998 .

And what we wanted to do we were inspired by that by picking seven songs from 1998 to put on our playlist for this week . So , with that being said , I'm going to start with Coop seven songs that he had on his playlist for this week from 1998 . Coop had Equimina uh .

Coop had a quimena west uh west savannah from outcast he had get at me dog dmx phenomenal album probably the best album that year . Matter of fact , um , or the truth . You know my steves gang star , the soul survivor joint from pete rock , true master , when inspected , that love that joint .

So it's great capital punishment joint , super lyrical black thought the punishing . And he also had lost ones from lauren hill , phenomenal album .

You know , sweet love was probably , you know , top two , three or top two or three track for me off that album . I remember I got a hold of the instrumental and you know I'm saying me and some cats that wrapped in my dorms . We , um , we laced that joint back in the day when I used to write a little bit , you know .

So I think capadonna street , life autumn , killed this joint . Um , I got the locks , um , all for the love off living off experience , which was jada's first uh solo record , which I still think is a classic record to this day . I mean , jada , kiss this . Let me know that he was going to be a problem and going to be the front man of the crew .

You know , when he put out this record .

Um , you know , earlier in the show and this is the album where we saw mixtape make it to retail , this and uh , funk , mac funk , master flex 60 minutes of funk . So this was a major time in hip-hop when we got to see a mixtape hit the retail market .

And um , nas laced uh , one of the songs on there called queen's finest , one of my favorites off that album , the professional . Um , no doubt the clue is also queens for sure . Um , yeah , I mentioned this on the 98 show , coming of age , the sequel . I think

this is . This is probably my second favorite song off of uh volume two . I think it's a brilliant song . It's arguably um one of jay's best concept records . Him and bleak . Continuing what was said on the first coming in age from reasonable doubt . Continuing the story . They going back and forth , but their rhymes are just describing .

You know their thought processes before you get to the third verse where they converge and then , you know , really have that discussion and hash out you know what they're thinking in that moment . But it's a brilliant record . Beat is dope and just love this joint . Um , and the last joint I got is , uh , misery needs company .

Uh , oh , yeah , yeah , for sure , like I love the whole don carter gina album I I would argue that it's a five mic album . You know what I mean . But , um , uh , this is my second favorite record on here after john blaze and misery needs company .

Nori killed this feature man like nori just had I said it in the discord today like nori wasn't a lyrical , super lyrical , rappity , rap guy , but he just had a presence on the mic and the way his delivery was and his style made him dope and you know he , with his hook and his verse on here , he took this record out of here .

You know I'm saying that's my playlist awesome man that's .

You know , I actually um , it was important for me to hear um the intros to music back then because I thought the intro to an album set the tone for the album and back . You know , during that time in the 90s , the intros was like the tone thing , right .

So my list consisted of those that were intro right and I started out with beware , beware was crazy for me . Crazy Love , this joint Perfect World Dope . This was actually the first song I heard Out of Boot Camp . I bought this album the Bobby Digital album when I left Boot Camp in 1999 .

This was like the anthem I'm going to be honest with you , like this .

I was in a club in Japan underage drinking While you and Coop was in high school trying to figure out life . I was in the club wearing an Ava Rex . You know what I mean , Yo . That Ava Rex was tough . I ain't going to lie . This was young Sean , right here , 1999 .

I'm like , yeah , I'm going to face it , Beat it , Beat it , beat it beat it .

And real quick , before we head up out of here , I'd be remiss . You know you talked about your boot camp anniversary . The 8th , a couple days ago , was the 33rd anniversary of Mr Scarface's back . So just wanted to bring that back because I forgot to mention that in the opening segment with the Discord dialogue . So that had a 33rd anniversary on that album .

So salute to Scarface . We're going to have a new discord dialogue uh segment next week , so I can't wait to see who that is , because we don't know yet . We got to put the voting polls in the discord , so no doubt , no doubt .

Anyone from Queens , thank you for pulling up for sure , so I'm going to throw that out there . Shout out to the Discord . We appreciate the Discord . If you haven't joined our Discord , please , please , connect to our Discord . You will have fun . Conversations are continuous , hip-hop banter continuous . It's a great community over there to talk about just everything .

Springfield , queens what up , what up , what up ? Follow us on Twitter . Hiphoptalks Twitter . Follow us on Twitter . Follow us on Facebook . Follow us on everything that we got out there . Facebook , twitter , discord .

We'll put that in the chat as well . You want to get some merch . It's going to be out there . We're working on other things as well for merch sake , and we're also working on other shows . We have an event coming up . It's going to be going to be part of an event on November 8th , 9th and 10th . I'm going to be in Shelby , north Carolina .

Again , follow us on Twitter , facebook , discord and we'll share that information as well . But we're going to be at the Southern Soul Music Festival this year . We're going to be out there showing love to those guys out there . So continue to support . We appreciate y'all . Again , thank you so much for the love .

Thank you so much for the discourse , the comments Coop , be safe out there . Coop is here so we can have some more banter with him . Yo , we'll be back next week . Peace y'all , peace y'all . Trife LB LP , all of y'all .