Two Words... JUSTIN BOBBY

He's just the most even keeled, rational dude. Does he make some questionable fashion choices, maybe, but other than that, man, he is just steady Eddie. When it comes to the show. It's almost like he shouldn't be on the show, like he's too normal for the show, which is why I'm so excited to have him on this show today to break down episode two of The Hills New Beginnings. I will say I was a little skeptical as to how well season two was the dudes, because I didn't love

season one. But we're off to a roar and start. Dude. Episode one was fantastic. Second one pretty good. Yeah, Adrina going on a second date with freaking Rod Stewart's son. Who where did this guy come? From we meet Brodie's new girlfriend. I mean, like, where did this girl come from? We go to Brandon's house and we realize the man can make a mean shark cuterie board. This guy's all about picnic life. By the way, Whitney comes back into the fold. Where has she been? Wallers get super personal

with having baby number two. We realized that Brodie's mom is a national treasure and she must be preserved at all costs. We learned nothing new about Heidi because we all knew that she couldn't cook. And we realized that of all the people who have stopped drinking or gone to rehab on this show, the two that probably need it most are still very much drinking in Heidi and Spencer. There is so much to break down in this episode,

and I'm so excited. Had the voice of reason, the normal dude, who's gonna teach me how to apply some guy ladder today? Justin Bobby, and don't forget at the end of the interview, we're gonna have Chloe from CS two Key come on would do a quick rundown with her about last night's episode as well. It's all coming up right here on the Hills cast. This is when you do not want to miss Beeby. Alright, we're back Hills Cast The Hills New Beginnings, airing Wednesday night, nine

Eastern on MTV. I'm so excited because the last season we didn't get to have this guest on, and this is someone who I have said from the beginning, I feel like is the most normal, the voice of reason in a world full of crazys. Justin Bobby on the show How Are You Man? Was very sweet of you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Do you believe that because like when I was on reality shows, I was always known as the voice of reason, and I'm not sure

if I if I think that that was true. But as I watched it back, I was like, Yeah, the things that I said were the most normal things. I never did anything crazy. And it seems like, at least this season, and for the most part a lot of last season, you are coming across as the most well balanced human on the Hills. Do you feel that way? Um?

Maybe I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it's hard for me to accept something like that, and then I just look, I think I look at things that are a different a little bit of a different lens and I don't like drink on the show or whatnot. I kind of treat it like a business, so I kind of think I'd get to see things a little bit more clearly than some of the castmates. Um, and then I'm pretty much I'm just one, just pretty much. You know, I'm pretty What you see is what you get,

So I got nothing to hide. Something that works for me. Yeah, and I think it's a smart way to go about it. Obviously, you know you're gonna be on TV, so you don't want to let get you know, cocked on a bottle of BlackBerry brandy like Spencer and Heidi do every episode before. Before we get into all of that, I mean, I gotta ask, like the hard hitting questions, how are things

between you and Audrina? Right? Very good? Really good? Actually? Um. We started to reconnect towards the end of the season, which was pretty nice because last season I came off tour, she was dealing with the divorce and you know, her whole life that was probably flipped upside down more than we'll ever know. But it's kind of like the dust settled. And I've been home since COVID, so I haven't been able to fleet like I do. And uh yeah, it's been there's like a little rekindle and it's it's like

it's like friendship, but it's very comfortable. So this is the way that I perceive your guys. Relationship we have in our lives. High school sweethearts that like well forever, like whole old and important place in your life because they were there during very formative years. But as you've like grown and matured and advanced in your life, you realize that person is special because of that time in your life, but can never be like the thing that they were then to you now because you are now

completely different people. Is that how you perceive your relationship with her now? You would think so, But Adriana had I mean, we all were very very young, so I would see a pretty young side to her that would almost keep me away at times because there's certain scenarios that would happen. I just know she would handle it

differently than as today. It feels like what she went through with the divorce, and um, I don't want to keep bringing that up, it's not my business, but what she went through matured her immensely and seeing her now as I see her in a different light as before. He was more playful and more like hat and mousey and um, you know, we could hang out and then let it go. But the fact that she's been through it, I see, I see a full woman now, and I like I like seeing her like that. It's like she came,

she came into her own and that's attractive. That's attractive for an email to see, like a woman that's kind of done her thing, been through it a little bit and knows what she wants and there's no more like immaturity about it. So I think that's different than what normal people would think when it comes to this kind of subplot storyline between her and Brody and this kiss or whatever it was, you know during the poker game seen last night, it seems like you're really really fine

with it and cool with it. Is that really how you felt? Or is it weird? It's not weird. I think it's been enough time, right, Like I mean, you go, I don't know how long it's been since Adriene and I hung out, eight years, six years, don't even know, But at that point it's like there's I can't get mad at any of that. There's no way, I think it's kind of funny, but I mean she always kind

of had a keen eye for Brody. You know, It's like they always you know they you know, there's that little thing where they like I want to make out of them, you know, that kind of feel. So I don't know, it didn't bother me. I mean, if it it makes her happy. I don't think he's ready for a commitment. She might be, but I didn't didn't bother me too much. Maybe it didn't bother me too much

that I don't think it will go anywhere. Yeah, fair enough. Actually, in the first episode, you talk about kind of like your sojourn out of the country during COVID. You go to Mexico, but it's kind of vague as to like what you're doing in Mexico. Were you just kind of escaping or like getting away from it all? Like what was happening in Mexico while pandemic was raging on here

in America. Well, well, that ship hit. We had we knew an Indonesian consulate at the consulate in downtown l A. And we were gonna we tried to leave to get to Indonesia right when it hit, and we got our stamps of approval to leave, and then the day before we left, they shut down international travel over there. So our whole plan was just to get to Indonesia and ride this thing out over there where was safe. And we're on the beach and we're just surfing our brains out.

So that got cut short. And then one of my best friends, Billy, is like a complete journeyman, and he was like, Mexico. We can't do there in Mexico, and I was like, let's go. So he had like the sprinter van and the Mercedes sprinter van with everything decked out, and we just split. We got through the border before they shut that border down, and we just went as

far south as we could. We served and camped out a read books, played music, just and we just tapped in here and there to see what was going on in the real world and then be like, no, it's not time to come back yet. So we did that and it was actually perfect. I mean, we weren't hurting anybody. We could have been hurt, so um worked out. It worked out perfect. And for me, if I if I was stuck here, I would have lost my damn mine, I mean, not being able to do anything. I love

being home and doing my own thing. And I think being by yourself is very very mature, but you want to do it on your own terms, right, So where were you in Mexicans? Were the main places you're surfing? It's like Scorpion Bay, Super down South one hours driving is I mean, it was Baja. We'd stop, we camp, we'd eat, and it was like it felt like COVID haven't hit there yet. They were still figuring out, like they didn't even know what that was. They knew, but

it was so separated that it didn't even matter. So we still felt the vibe of like it wasn't as severe. But then we heard the numbers what was going on here? And like, oh my god, were you going to stay there? If not for the show? Coming back? Like did they hit you up and be like hey, no more surfing, you gotta drive back up? Then no, I came back.

I came back before that. It was it was time like I had I don't want I wanted to come back and check on you know, family, me and friends and kind of just poked my head and see what's going on. I did my time down there. I left like the the grunt of it happened up here and then m and I just came back. I had a band and everything, Like, They're like, what did you do? I was like, I split, you, guys, I split. Going back to the show, who do you consider as like

your closest friend from the cast this season? To be honest, it was Jason. Um, you haven't seen it yet, but me and him develop a real kinship. We grew up literally twenty minutes from each other in completely different worlds. I was a little bit more you know, from the hood. He wasn't, but we had a similar connection. So this season you'll see us like the two oddities meet and have a very similar vibe. Story in different ways though,

so you'll see that. So I'll say Jason, we had him on the show last week and he said the exact same thing to that answer for you, which makes me happy. See, you're my two favorite guys on the show. It seems like you're the most real and relatable on the show. I think that you're like the most yourselves,

whereas I think for other people on the show. And this is even a question, is it just a statement as someone who's watching it, it just seems like a little put on and when I come across that in reality shows, it just comes across as the inauthentic, and then I'm like, next scene, let's get out of here. But for you guys, it does seem it does seem pretty authentic. Brandon's like coming out of the woodwork. Last season,

I was like, who is this kid? And then this season I'm like, oh, I actually I believe all the things he's saying. He seems like a sweet kid. He seems like his heart's in the right place, and I like, I like his storyline as well. I agree with you there. There's definitely some cast members that they don't gotta figured out, and it's getting a little it's a little scary because time is ticking and you wonder if they ever will get it. But that's not for me. That's not my journey.

It's just, you know, I like them as friends and stuff like that, So let him write it out the way they will. But yeah, I know who's true and it's not, so I think the audience says as well, all right, let's get into the episode. Before we started recording, I asked if you had watched it. You had you said you hadn't watched it. So I'm just gonna kind of like recap this for you and you can just kind of give me your thoughts on it all. I mean, the first scene, Heidi and Spencer have like this double

date with Audrina and Rod Stewart's son. I don't know if you watched the first episode, but Sean and Adrina have this day and it's the most awkward because you can tell he's just sweating and he's just so nervous and he's shaken like a leef in a hurricane. And then I feel like in this episode he's not as nervous, but he's he's so sunburned. Dude, where were you right before this happened? Put on some sunscreen? You're not ready

for that. I guess my question for you is, as someone who was with Audrina, are you buying any of this? Are you happy for? Is this just weird? Is it forced? You know? What's really funny about that is I got to meet Sean right off the bat, and me and him hit it off, I think more than any castmate we've We've actually we talked fairly often. Um, I've gone up to his house now, like we became a pretty tight due for a second, and the guy is aces. The guy is like, you know, he genuinely, he genuinely

liked her for who she was. And for some reason, Audrina just doesn't like somebody who's genuinely into them. I guess I don't know what it is. It was like it was kind of mind boggling because he was quirky, it was cool, there was no like you, no backhanded agenda. He like, you know, and he cared about her and he was trying to be funny, like he just genuinely tried to make her feel like the woman that she is.

And I've even talked to him, even off camera. He was just he's just he's a straight shooter with her. And it's kind of funny to see that. She was like thanks, but no thanks, and it's like, this is what you've been crying for for years, is to have something like this, and you kind of kind of have it right on the silver platter in here's like, no thanks, I'll go to Brody route. So I don't know, I

don't I don't get it. I mean I get it, I know exactly what she's doing, but I just I'm like, that's too bad, because he is a solid guy, and I don't know what they showed, but he's um. He's very funny, and he's very intelligent, and he's very giving, and he's a he's a he's a pick up the phone, the first ring type of guy, and you don't get that often, especially with his background and and you know, his family and stuff. For him to be as down the earth as he is, I commend the guy, so

I have nothing bad to say about him. I'm like, well, I'm bummed out for this guy's at it because Jason kind of echoed the same thing last week of being like, this guy's funny and cool and chill, and I do feel like he's kind of getting the Dufaus at it um, So hopefully that like evolves as the show goes on. Second scene, we go to Brodie's house and we meet Brodie's new girlfriend. We're not sure exactly how old she is.

I think with the last week counted, I've done ninety episodes of Paradise, I've never once been asked to get naked into a bub bath. This poor girl Amber, her first scene ever is naked in a bubble bath with Brody. I guess my question to you is, have they ever asked you to be naked in a scene. No, they actually haven't. Oh you know what, I think Series one back in the day, Um, I think I jumped in. I think they jumped in the pool like the banana hammock on yeh uh. And I did in my first

like kiss scene about Drina. I think, yeah, I think they asked for that, so I did do that. I like it, I think. I mean, you know, sex cells for the most parts, So I like the fact that you know we're going to that route. We're showing a little bit more and it's a little less PG than what it's always been, so I mean, I haven't seen it. I mean she was cute, so and she's from where I live, so I was like rad and she looked hot on camera. Then let's go. We go to Brandon's house.

He's got this girlfriend who's total smoke show in Danny, but it seems like she's not back with him, which is totally understand bowl. You get to meet Danny at this poker game. What's your like initial thought on Brandon's girlfriend, young, young, young girl. I mean, it's hard in our late thirties, and the nineteen year old starts popping around. It's like

just young. I don't know what she would have to say that it would be a significance at that age, but it's like, Okay, I think she seems sweet and she has a little, you know, tight head on her shoulders from what it looked like, but I mean, I couldn't really relate after by the next thing after that, Audrina goes and hangs out with Whitney, which I don't believe Whitney was in the first episode. Do we see a lot of her this season or is it kind

of sparingly? Yeah, it sparingly. I think, um, you know, I think she's doing she does the family thing, and she's really focused on that. I think whatever else she's got in her career, but I don't think. I don't think the Hills has been a big part of it lately, so I haven't seen her. I haven't seen it much this season, but maybe I hear she fills with the girls, so I think. My favorite part of the episode is when Brody goes and visits his mom, who seems like

she is the rattish chick on this show. No offense to anybody else, but the advice that this woman gives. The nuggets of wisdom that come out of her mouth are aces. It's absolutely beautiful, is she Because you know you grew up with Brody. I'm sure you're around her a lot. Is she is dope in with cameras off as she is with them on. Yeah, what you see

is what you get. It's kind of nice and it's always very lovely when I see her, and even you know, time can go by and it's like, you know, time, no time left at all, and she's very loving and Brodie is lucky to have you know her as a mom for sure. Heidi and Jennifer make a cake. Heidi's bad at that, the Shocker, and then then here here comes poker night, and I think everyone's just we're just driving towards this. You're just driving towards the two trains

on the tracks coming and just hitting head on. What I will say, Brandon makes a mean shark you to replay so good on him. I guess the man loves like a picnic setup, Like that's just what that is. We know that Jason has a drinking and gambling problem. Are we surprised that he shows up to gamble? I mean, you gotta give some you gotta get, you gotta you gotta get, you gotta let her brother live a little bit. I mean having a poker night with the boys. It's

not like he's in the casino. Just run him back and forth to the A T M. You know, and he's not slamming drinks with us, and you know at his home life. I'm sure his home life is with his with his wife and the kids, and you know, whatever's coming forward. I just it's like the guy wants to have a night out with the boys and play a little poker and let him do it. Jesus, I'll do that. I'll do that anyway. So Spencer starts drinking because he doesn't want to play poker at poker night,

which is like, why are you. I don't know why you're going to poker night if you don't want to play poker. But that confused boy he said something about he's got to save his he's got to save his funds for his college. And I'm like, dude, you got like I don't know if that's fake Gucci then or what, but you got like Gucci everything. You can't drop five

hundred bucks on a pokernut. I'll get it, but he must have spent all that money on the like the don Julia who's drinking anyways, because it seems like it was going down like water. Yeah, I mean Frankie, I think you had a good night that night. Yeah, but Frankie seems like doesn't kind of go off the rails. I guess I said this in the intro. I said this in the intro. You know, it doesn't seem like you drink a lot on the show. You might drink outside of it, but it seems like you are a

pretty like level headed dude always. And you have Jason who's recovering alcoholic, so he's never drinking, Brandon who is not drinking because he's I guess, the recovering alcoholic. And then you have Brodie, who like has had this epiphany this past year and it's just not drinking at all. It's like this kind of sad but also weirdly humorous thing that's happening. Whereas like the one person that probably does need to stop drinking is the one person who

is drinking the entire time. And is that not is that lost upon you guys or you guys all, like, dude, what are you doing with Spencer. Yes, I don't know. I've never known him not to drink, so I don't know what not drinking Spencer's like. To be honest, I don't know. It is kind of funny, like you know, a big chunk of the cast doesn't drink, and I

think it's because we learned our lesson. I mean, I had some too many beers a couple of times, and I would see myself on a playback and I was like, man, each of us have individual fans, and and if they look up to us, I don't want them to see me in that light. And you know what I mean, we're all selling it in some kind of way, So I don't want somebody to look at me and just think that I think that thought, like you know, for me, it never looked, it was never like it's not it's

not a very good look. I don't I'm not into it, so I don't do it. In the episode, you express how it's just like not a cute look. Here's my question, as someone who's just watching the show. If it weren't for the show, would the majority of you guys be friends with Heidie and Spencer? I think know, I mean, we're all, we're all literally separated by six degrees seven degrees of separation, so it's like, you know, something pops up,

we all hear about it some kind of way. And even though we don't get to maybe see each other as much because we all live in different areas and life goes on and careers or whatnot, you know, you still hear through the grapevine what's going on, and people do check in, and when we do see each other again,

it's like, we got to do this more. And it's funny because we're such an eclectic bunch that you know, in a room together, like I don't look like I hang out and we should see my core group of friends, would you know? It would be like a ship show. But but for some reason we work, and it's cool that it does work, and it's nice to show people that although we're so different, we're still very very similar.

And yeah, I stay in contact as much as I can, but I'm pretty nomadic, Like I leave and I just tell them, hey, I know you get like Frankie's the most. Frankie is the one most that it's like, dude, where you go do? Why are you leave all the time. I'm like man, you know that just love me. And he's like okay, okay, and then now they get it. So now they get that. I leave and I come

back and it's like no time has passed, right. The last thing that we kind of see is this Girl's Night, where it's you know, it's this funny juxtaposition between what's happening at the poker night and what's happening with the girls night. Spencer's getting turned up at your guys function. Heid, He's getting turned up at the ladies function. Heidi just keeps on pouring champagne into people's classes who aren't drinking champagne, and they're like, dude, like this was tequila, Like this

is gonna taste like this now. Like I would just be like, dude, stop doing this. They definitely bring it, you know, they bring it. They turn it up and every you know, all the group, all the group traveling we do, they're they're really fun. They have a good time with it. Um. I don't know if it kicks him in the ast some days or not, but you know, they're the first ones to be like you know, they love to come in late and show up fashion with late and be the first one to cheer and the

last ones to stay kind of thing. So that's just their vibe. Do you like doing this show? If they order a season three, are you back in or at some point you like, all right, we've done it, We've said enough, I need to go. Before I was, I was kind of out after series one. I was out because I wasn't really believing what I was watching and seeing so much. To be honest, I was like, did

that happen? Did that not happen? And it started off like they kicked me off on a on a bad foot, like with Audrina from the get go, like I left her and stuff like that, and I really didn't. It was like the first moments of courtship, and you know, you can't be as severely in a relationship like that. But it's fun to see what's going on now and hearing about what's going on now because it does it does seem pretty spot on. So I like that there's a bit more realness, and I love like the stuff

that you don't think they would show. I've been hearing their showing, so that's cool. Like for me, I'm like, yeah, so it intrigues me more and I like to see where the storylines are going, and I'd like to see where, you know, what's going on in these on these people's lives, because before, I think it was really hard to get story out of everybody and you kind of just had to make it working with what they got. So it

was kind of confusing a lot of the times. And now it feels like there's a rhythm happening, and I think that happened. I think that I think that has a lot to a lot to do with Megan. We have a new producer May Megan, and and she's from the get go, she's just been very real, very upfront,

very understanding, very open, and we like that. And I think you're going to get that because of her, and in this season and hopefully the next what happens next for you because you just seem like right now, as the even keeled gives wisdom to all these idiots running around. Do we focusing on your personal life? Is there some ladies that come in for you down the road or are you just just the justin Bobby Shaman for the rest of the season. No. I love women, Um, but

I'm just not dumb about it. I've been done when I was young and I realized at a young age that you gotta pay attention when you start to let yourself be with somebody for amount of time. But I think this season it was more or less me tapping into my own self. Not being able to run forever, not being able to get up and tour COVID really put a change in my head and on what might be real. Um, you know, I'm still in my thirties, but I'm starting to think of like something a little

bit more mature and a little bit more serious. So maybe in the future. Yeah, there's a season three because they're they're shooting what we're kind of doing, so yeah, I think so, I like. I like what they're doing with right now. I just brought my father on and he's been he's been aces on this thing, and people seem to like him, and he gets he gets the real out of me, even more real because I came from him. So he's just he just is who he is, so you see him and then you understand me more.

So I don't mind showing that as long as it's showed in the light that we're doing it in, I'm fine. It was what it's when you do the right thing and then they show it differently? Is what was getting at me? If you don't show what I'm doing, then now I don't like you because now you're not real And what is it all about? So I feel like getting this is is important and it makes me want

to give more. Um, I got nothing to hide, maybe some things, but um it inspires me to be like, let's tell Let's tell a real story then and if you want to listen and partake, then come along for the ride outside the show. You have a band, what's going on with that? I mean, obviously it's tough to tour right now because of COVID, so like, what what is on the horizon for your artistic career? We just

actually got back. We did a Seattle tour. We went all the Seattle and Santa Cruz and we had a little short tour studio and then the world's will open back up. So we have UM with festivals lined up, albums coming out, and so we're kind of back on UM. I was in the studio last night until two in the morning. It's just it's full rock and roll. And

then I'm actually currently shooting my first feature. It's called The Kindamarra Effect and It just came into my lap during the season of The Hills, and I play a lead in it. So I've just been really studying for that and and I did some acting stuff when I was younger, and I just I don't know, but I'm gonna try it out and see how it goes. And

it's been really fun. It's a it's a really cool project with great people, and it's it's nice to get out of some of this book, you know what I mean that I'm doing with the reality and actually sink my teeth into something that's not me because I'm tired of being me on the show. Not to speak for everyone watching, but I think we enjoy watching you be you on the show. Justin Bobby, thank you so much

for being Thank you on the show, dude. I've been looking forward to talking with you and and meeting you. You've got a good vibe. This is gonna sound so Hollywood, but like a good aura about you. I want to know what are the things that like you read or you listen to. What is your that you really identify with that like makes you you? You know, I really I really just try to listen to my gut. I mean a lot of people don't like you can listen to your head, your heart, but I really try to

listen to my intuition first and make right decisions. And I try to pay attention to think before I speak. And you know, if I go into a friendship or relationship, like, is it is this beneficial for both of us? Is somebody gonna be dragging behind I? You know, like I try to make the right decisions before the decisions made. So as for reading, I pick up books and then you know, I'll put them down. But I do stuff

that makes me happy. I'm looking at the beach right now, and I'll get in that water, and I'll get in the studio and I got four Harley's in the garage right now, I'm about to think her on And just being nomadic for me is my zen and it helps me grow better as a person because I think a lot of people are staticky and then they suck off of you, and especially if you're in a better place than them. If you're in a good place, people they love to be around it. Don't know how to deal

with it, try to change it. And I think just me doing me is what works best for now when it comes to being a nomad. This is something I've always wonted. So I've got friends that are I feel like, are like you. The question is when you live that type of life, are you running away from something or running towards something both? Dude. I had a childhood where my parents split it three years old and I didn't know what like togetherness was, right. I never saw my

currents kiss, I never some hold hands. I never saw Christmas is together like that. So yeah, it's running, but at the same time, it's it's developed who I am. And I feel like if I was that twenty three year old, you know, a wife and kids, I don't know. I think my fucking soul would just kill itself. That's how I oh because I don't know that life. I mean, I understand it, and I work every day on trying to understand myself a little bit more. I do do

self help. I'll go to mediums. I like, I pay attention. I listened, so that part of me is healed. So I can't have that life someday. Um, but I wouldn't change it for the world because me coming a little bit from the hood and just living what I've lived in the ship that I've gone through like it's gonna make make me the best father, the best husband, It's gonna make me the best friend you ever have, and I'm proud to be that. So it doesn't really bother

me too much. I feel like it's talk to you forever, but I'm gonna be respectful of your time and let you go. Where can everyone follow you to keep up with everything that's going on with your life? Man? Can't? Man? You honestly can? I turned off right when COVID had, I turned off all my social media. I haven't been on it at all, so you can't really find me. You just gotta watch me on TV, I guess, and see me on the show. Come to a show, listen to us play, and you know, come see this movie

the Camera Effect when it comes out. I'm gonna stay mystical. Man. I feel like I feel like people that did TV and played music and stuff, we're so much more admirable back in the day when you had to see him for what they were, not what their life was about. It keeps this, you know, it keeps a star bright Elvis and you couldn't see him you had you here, had to hear that he was playing on the radio.

You had to hear him on the radio that he was going to be playing somewhere, and people drive hundreds of miles to go see that. That figure. I mean, if Elvis had social media the day, it wouldn't be anything, so trying to go vintage with it. You can catch Justin Bobby of course in the Hills New Beginnings Wednesday, nine Eastern MTV, and then obviously go listen to his music, go see him play live. Crime Effects coming out maybe sooner maybe sooner. Yeah, it's getting the cans and everything.

It's it's it's a new good thing. Dude. Hey man, nice talking with you, brother, Keep doing you man, Thank you God bless Let it all right. Justin Bobby was exactly like Justin Bobby is on TV, which is awesome. He's like my friend Dean Unglerts. He's this guy that continues like travel around and squeeze every last drop out of this lemon, which is life. And I am so

jealous that there are people like that. I live that way, and there's just no way I could do it because I would absolutely lose my mind because I'd be like, well, what about the dogs and taxes and all that kind of stuff. But I just love talking people like that because I just can't be them and I wish I could. Alright, quick break, when we come back, we are going to have Chloe from CIS t Key on. We're gonna talk about well her new beginnings because apparently she's changing everything around.

We'll get into it. Stick around listening to the Hills Cast, Slash Wales Cast. Welcome back to the Wells Cast, Slash Hills Cast, Slash. I guess we can now call it like the CIS the Key Cast because the past two episodes we've had book ending our Hills talk is uh Stars from CST Key, which actually airs right before the Hills, So I guess it makes total sense. Today on the show is a lady that is completely I guess, transforming her life right before eyes. Chloe, how are you good?

How are you doing? I'm doing good. Listen, You're doing this whole like I'm changing who I am. I'm gonna be the better version of myself, which is something that I think a lot of people can relate to, you know, especially when out of college and all of a sudden you're like, I'm an adult now I need to you know, like put away childish things. It's something that everyone can relate to, but it seems to be that on the show, no one believes that this is a real thing for you.

How are you internalizing that? Well, at first, I was very frustrated that they weren't, you know, believing me. Um. I did a lot of my transformation and my inner work during quarantine, so we were all, you know, separated, so they hadn't seen me for a while, and then when we started up filming again, it had been like seven months, so they were like, wait, you you can't all of a sudden be a different person. That doesn't

make any sense. So it was frustrating because I felt like I had to prove myself and I don't feel like anyone should have to ever prove themselves to anyone, But with my circumstances of how much I did change, and I know that I put a lot of my cast members through it all the previous three years, so I try to be as patient as possible. But in the next episode next week, you see I have a

complete like breakdown and I'm I end up leaving. So it gets really rough because I can only place myself around them for so long where it's like, Okay, we're a month into it and you guys are just going to continue to tear me down, Like you should never ever try and tear someone down that's trying to better themselves. Absolutely, And also sometimes environments can create or bring out the bad in us. Sometimes you just around toxic people in toxicity can be contagious. Do you find that it's a

little bit of that with you, Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. I um at the point of when we started filming, I hadn't drink in like four months, and I was trying to not drink anymore. I've been sober Curious for almost a year now and being my friend group and on this reality TV show, there's a lot of partying and a lot of drinking, and it was almost like because I wasn't participating in the drinking and all of that, it was almost like they wanted to come for me

even more. I had somebody even spiked my drink at one point when I was in another room, like it it was really, really, really toxic. I had to just walk away from it because it got really bad. Did you say sober curious and is that a thing? Yeah, it is the thing. I think so so it's sober curious, like sometimes you experiment with alcohol on occasion, but normally you don't like this work. Okay, So I went from someone who drank probably five times a week to someone

that maybe drinks once or twice a month. And when I do drink once or twice a month, I'm really only try and have one or two because that tends that used to be kind of where I would go hey wire is I would drink and instead of having one or two, I would have five or seven. And that's when you're just not in your right mind at all. And on top of that, cameras were around. So I'm flirting with the idea of being completely sober. But I don't have a problem with drinking. I just don't like

myself when I'm wasted. Yeah, I love that, and I'm going to use that in my life. That's hilarious. In the beginning of your time on this show and leading leading up to now, did you feel like and listen, we get it. I've been enough reality TV shows to know that being the loudest voice in the room, being the most boisterous, for lack of a better term, just

being the kind of like Bonker's person. Do you think that, like you felt the need to bring that person out and with the Hulk or Dr Jekylo Mr. Hyde, like the conduit to bring that person out was the alcohol. Absolutely? Yeah, I definitely think the alcohol and being on the show. I think it's a mixture of both of those where I was like just always over the top and it definitely has bit me in the ass more times than I can count, and I know that now, so I'm

just trying to be better than that. Obviously, you know what happens going down the road on the show. Obviously you can't say too much you don't want to ruin it. But do you feel like you're going to be vindicated by the end of the show, Like you think that people are going to be like everyone was questioning her intentions of this kind of moral one eighty that she's taking, but it's actually going to be like validated by the

end of the season. I do. And there's been people that have texted me that are on my cast, the couple that we're still kind of questioning it, questioning it towards the end, have texted me and been like, hey, I feel awful, like I have seen the change. So hopefully we even get another season and we can continue to see it. But yeah, by the end of the season, I feel like I end very strong and I feel that everyone will see that my transformation in my journey

is true. Good. That makes me happy. I won't bug you about your life anymore. I'm now going to bug you about everyone else's life. Listen, we know how Kelsey feels about Juliette and her intentions with Sam, like the money. What are your opinions of that relationship. Do you think she's gold digging or do you think it's just is very convenient that he has a lot of money, but also she's in love with him. I don't think she's gold digging. I know how much money Juliet makes and

she definitely doesn't need Sam at all. And now on top of it, she's making money with her swimsuit line, so she really doesn't need him. I think it's an amazing benefit, and I think Sam is one of the most generous people when it comes to his money. I mean, I'm sure it doesn't hurt that he's a billionaire, but I don't think that's why she's with him at all. There's a lot of flashback clips of some things that you've said about Kelsey in the past. My question, my

question to you is have you ever really liked her? No, I, any anyone on the cast and anyone on the producing team would tell you that. From day one, Season one, episode one where she where she comes to the bar and I hire her, I immediately was like, No. My thing about Kelsey is she's the only one that it's not from CS TCK. She hasn't known us like the rest of us has known each other for ten, fifteen,

twenty years. And I felt, and I feel this way about any new cast member that comes in that they're in it for not the right reasons, that they're in it for the fame and all of that, and they're not really in it to build these true friendships with us. Now about Kelsey, now, I think you know, she does have true friendships with some people on the cast, but I think she's just a little bit more fame hungry than some of us, and that to me just I

don't like that. I don't like that in anyone. I mean, you write it this like really kind of thoughtful letter apologizing about what you said. YadA YadA, YadA. And she rips up and throws it into pool. But how do how do you internalize that or like a react to something like that. I just think that she was unable

to understand my language. You know, people can only meet you where they meet themselves, and I think it speaks a law on where Kelsey feels about herself treating someone that's trying to reach out to them and speak their truth, and for her to do that just shows that she doesn't really feel that way about herself. Because in somebody changing to be better, if you don't think that's true, that means you don't think you can do it yourself.

It was honestly, really hurtful. I ended up posting the entire letter on social media last night because I was like, okay, they only showed like one tenth of how long that letter was, so I took pictures of it when I wrote the letter back in like November, because I was nervous that she was going to try and twist the letter around, which they did, and I do tell her what I said in the letter, and I asked to meet her. I thought it was really really rude, all

of them. The entire situation was rude, very very smart taking those pictures. Thank you. Going forward, what are you the most excited about in terms of cisto Key and also adversely, what do you not super pumped to have happened going forward? Well, I'm excited to see them on the island because I wasn't there for the beginning or

maybe the whole thing. So I'm excited to see it because I've heard so much about this huge fight that breaks out on the island, and I've heard everyone's stories and unfortunately, unfortunately you know, it's on camera, and I can't wait to see the truth of what went down. Truly, um and what I'm not excited for. I'm also not excited to see this fight because I think it's i according to what I've been told, it's the worst like

fight we've had on the show. And I also I'm not an advocate for violence, so I'm not necessarily excited to see violence. But I just want to know what went down because everyone's story is very different. Well, i think everyone's right there with you and you can see it go down Wednesday, nights eight Eastern on MTV C S two. Key, Chloe, thank you so much for being on the show. Where can people follow you and find

out more about you and all that stuff. Um, I only have Instagram for social media and it is all lower case Chloe Troutman and my business Instagram is Concept by Chloe and tell everyone about Concept by Chloe that might not know what's going on. Concept by Chloe is an online lifestyle blog where I do videos and I work together in group zoom meetings or one on one where we focus on everything about mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual health. That's awesome. Thanks so much for taking the

time to be on the show today. I do hope that everyone realizes that your intentions are true. I think everyone can do a little bit better in their life, and I think it's a really really admirable thing to try to do it on a reality show, because trust me, I know from firsthand that's hard. So good on you and nice to meet you, and thank you so much for taking the time. Thank you. I appreciate your compliments, and thank you for having me see you. Dude, have

a good day. Bye bye. Subscribe to Wells cast on I Heart Radio, Apple podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. It's the internet. M