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Sadie Robertson

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Sadie Robertson has done more before age 25 than most people do in their WHOLE lives. 


You might know her from Duck Dynasty, but Wells goes far beyond what you’ve seen on TV. 


Find out what motivates and inspires her. And discover the crucial advice she has for young entrepreneurs. 


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What is that? Sounded weird? I don't know how's that go? When? How's everybody to win me? Okay? You know, I mean l A, it's like eighty five degrees here, it's like May. Everyone's like, we're moving out of California. We're going to Texas where there's no state taxes, which dude, I get. I used to live in Nashville. No state taxes, great, but eighty five and January? Is that where my money is going? Is that where where state taxes going? California?

They go to the thermostat outside because totally worth it. Played golf aesterday with my brother and his buddy, and his buddy was hitting out of the sand trap out of bunka and he hit me right in the titty,

right below the titty, but just in the ribs. And then they proceeded to beat us in the game that we were playing, and I owed him in twenty bucks, so effectively I lost twenty dollars and I got smacked the titty, So to lose lose A lot going on in the world right now, right, nothing going on a politics, right, That's that's smooth cool? Yeah? What else? Oh? Bachelor news? Victoria? She seems like a spark plug. Dug shake also Army Hammer gonna stay away from that story because what okay,

should we just do it? All right? Do it? This is the Wells Cast with Wells Adams and I heart radio podcast. You want this thing to the Wells Cast, like I should change the end of the show. Just not creative whatsoever. Honestly, I didn't think it was gonna last this long. Once Steph kind of bailed out, I was like, all right, I give it like four weeks, like a solid month, and then people are gonna be like, I don't care about this any But that is not

the case. So thanks for caring about it for this song. I'm excited about today's episode, I tell you that much. It's a little annoying to have people who are like under the age that have done a lot more than I don't know me in their career in a much shorter period of time. It's like, okay, let me get it found the brakes. But to be honest with you, uh, that's more of an indictment on my laziness and less of one on their ambition, albeit an ambitious ambition. I'm kidding.

This young lady has literally done it all, starting hit reality TV show, Check competed on Dancing with Stars, Check Rhode New York Times bestseller Check preached in front of over seven hundred thousand viewers on the New Faithful App. Uh check literally done everything you know her from Duck Dynasty. Cannot wait to sit down and talk to the one,

the only, Sadie robertson this is one episode. Guys, you are not gonna want to miss al right back in the wells Gass very excited to have the star of Duck Dynasty, Dancing with the Stars and the New Faithful App Sadie Robinson on the show. How are you doing good? Thanks for asking? How are you? You know? I'm making it stay seven thousand, eight hundred and twenty seven of the Quarantine. I haven't changed sweats in over a month. But we're gonna make it through. We're gonna make it.

We're gonna make it. So. You've got a lot going on right now, Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. Things have been a little crazy, but all good things, all good things. Let's start with personal life. Congratulations you're expecting, Yeah, thank you. We're so excited. I know it's like time's going by really fast. All this sudden, Well that's probably a good thing. You want these nine months to go by as quickly as humanly possible, I would assume it is.

I know, you just start getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and you're like, okay, yeah, it's okay, this just starts freezing by. But it's it's the best thing ever. It's honestly magical, Like we're just starting to feel her start moving and so it's really a fun a fun part of life. You said her, So you know what you're having. Yes, it's a girl. Um, she's definitely gonna melt my husband's heart. So that's a sweet thing. We were so excited. Did

you have a crazy gender reveal party? We did? We did. We were those people, but it was so fun. We did um paint guns and we did like pink paint, but we didn't know what it was of course, Like we had one of our friends do it all and so you know, they started squirting the pink paint all over us and we were just like shocked. So we were covered in paint. It was a blast. I mean, obviously, you know, the only thing you care about is to have a healthy child. But were you guys leaning one

way or the other on what gender you wanted. We really weren't. We were totally like, whatever God has for us, weird be so excited. We just want a healthy baby. Obviously. I just had a feeling it was a boy, though I didn't like necessarily care one way that. I just thought it was so when they started shooting pink paint,

I was like, shook, it was so funny. Your poor husband's in for it because I feel like, I know, you know, like I'm sure, yes, you're right, Like she'll she'll melt his heart in the beginning, but then she's gonna give him a freaking ulcer. Come age eighteen, trust me, I know, and we have so to me. And then we have a little dog, who is the most proof for a little girl dog. And then we're now we're having a girl, and he's like, whoa, what just happened?

So outnumber real quick talk about the Instagram post where you paid homage to your parents. I thought that was kind of cool. Yeah, we did. So my mom and dad took a picture of their seventeen week old baby bump, you know, back in the day, and since then, my sister did, my brother and his wife did and now we did at seventeen weeks and so we posted it and I already went crazy because it's just so cool to see, you know, back in the day and now. And we tried to do a little vin to it.

But now my mom has all of our pictures framed at the house. So you had it for Christmas. She was really excited. You nailed the like wardrobe, was that like the original clothes from your parents? No, I just found that online. But Christian was like, did not have any Hawaiian start, so we did borrow from my dad. But yeah, we we nailed it. We nailed it. Tell me about the Faithful App. So Faithful App is a

new app out. It's so cool, especially if you watch sermons online because basically it's taking the faith based to an app on a really high cool level. So um tons of speakers pastors who are sharing motivational messages or sermons on the app, and you can actually go watch the sermons for free, or you can get a subscription to get a whole lot more stuff. But it's so cool.

So a lot of people say, you know, I want to spend time with God, but I don't have time or I don't know how, and this is like the perfect way to do it because it's through an app. It's fun and it's easy, but it's also effective and like truly a good time sim with the Lord. So I have a personal original content coming on the app as well, starting in February. Uh, and I'm loving it.

It's so cool. I mean, it's a good idea, especially these days when a lot of people are scared to congregate and you know, in large groups at church, you know, this is a good way to still get your daily dose to God, I suppose, and you know, not for yourself in danger. You know, I was looking at your Instagram and like I think your most recent post or yeah, one of your most recent posts, you're up there like straight up doing like a sermon. When did you decide

to start being in this public order? That seems like that would be the most terrifying thing in the world. Trus me, It did actually terrifying me that I would have never thought I would do what I'm doing now, especially when I was young, Like I was the person that if like, you know, we're at school and I see that it's like a popcorn reading situation, and I knew I was getting called on I would be like having anxiety, so I never thought i'd be doing this.

But actually, um, so, you know, my family had a TV show, Doug Dynasty, and then I was on Dance with the Stars, and so I kind of grew this level of fame, if you will, and I just didn't really know what to do with that. I was like, God, this is this is cool, but it's like I don't really know what to do with this. And look at, you know, what other famous people do, and I didn't know if that was necessarily what I was feeling called

to do or what I really wanted to do. And so, um, I actually ended up going to a church event kind of in this time of like praying through some things that I saw this woman get up there and she just preached and like everything she said was so inspiring and just the way she said it was so much confidence. And I remember looking at her and saying like, I think I want to do that because I want to say words that matter and I wanna influence people for

the better. And so I just kind of started to sharing messages here and there, and now it's been about four years of just pre shoeing it different different places, different spaces, and just saying people, just younger people being encouraged and inspired, UM to dive into God's word and all that God has for them. So I I love what I get to do. And that was actually at the Passion event which Christian and I'm a husband are part of Passion and it's an event for eighteen to

twenty five year olds. And this year was huge because it was online and we didn't know what was going to happen, you know, people were gonna come or watch or whatever. But we had over seven dred thousand people attend online and to start the new year. So you know, that's when I look at it and I say, God, now now all of this has purpose whenever we get to use it for the good. Um. And it's it's really cool, amazing, but also it's got to be extremely

anxiety written. That's a lot of pressure to put on yourself day in and day out. Yeah, it is crazy, it is. Well, I think you know how to come to the point at one point in my life a few years ago when I was like, you know what, I think you have pressure when you try to be perfect or when you try to perform, and so I always try not to. I just try to be authentic and be who I am, where I'm at at all times.

And you know what I found is that that's actually a lot more relatable when I'm inspiring to people, because when you give somebody a perfect image, they're like, what do I do with this? This isn't it real, this isn't me. And I think we do that a lot on social media. But when you give them your authenticity and who you are, people are like, Okay, that I can be. I can be friends with that, I can get behind that, I can learn from that because it's relatable.

So once I took the pressure of myself to try to perform or be perfect or be this unrealistic expectation of who I could be, things got a lot less anxiety. Written. You've been in the spotlight in a lot of different avenues, right like starting out with duc Dynasty and being on a reality show, and then kind of doing this competition situation with Dancing with the Stars and now just getting in front of well, I guess seven thousand people. What do you like best of all those media outlets? What

have you had the most fun doing? Definitely share messages, preaching your motivating people. I think just because you know there there are things in life that you get to do that are that are a good thing for you and that you have fun with. But then there are other things like you get to do for other people. And that's something that I see as a thing for

other people. Like when you share a message and somebody comes up to you and says, I've been dealing with anxiety for four years, or I've been dealing with depression, or I have lost hope. But when you said that, it literally changed everything in my life, Like I started going back to church, or I started waking up happy, or I started this And you see this like actual shift in somebody's life because of something you spoken to them. And I know it's not me, I know it's God.

But it's just an incredible thing to get to know that your words and your life has has meaning. And I think everybody has the opportunity that whether you have seven hundred thousand people watching our seven People at Home. Boa talks about how our words hold the power of life and death, so our words really matter. What we say is either going to build somebody up or it's going to tear some way down, and so for me,

there's nothing like what I get to do now. Even though, of course Dancing to the Stars was so cool and it was so fun. It was a blast, um, but I was way more scared doing that than what I'm doing now. Who won your season? Alfonso Ribero, who is incredible. I love him, totally deserved to win. I came in second, and I told him from the beginning, I was like, I'm going to try to stay right behind you, and I think I'll be good, and I did. The whole

way through. I was like, check, I don't think a guy that has his own dance named after him should be allowed to go on a show called Dancing with the Stars. I know it was a little bit of an unfair advantage. I think I won in my own heart, just because I came in second to him who has a dance saying after him. But it was really fun going back to like kind of being vulnerable and people really gravitating towards you being honest or just not being perfect. I know a couple of years back, you kind of

opened up about eating disorders and your religious person. Is that something you have to prey on before you're able to become really, really vulnerable with millions of people. Yeah, for sure, for sure. You know, one of my mentors told me one time to wait until your story becomes a testimony to share it with people. And what she meant by that is that, you know, you can share your story with anybody. Everybody has a story. You can get on and you can say anything these days, and

a lot of people do that. You know, I could get on un tell you all my life problems, but that doesn't really help me, or it really doesn't help anybody else, because now I'm just dumping a lot of my stuff that I really need to be talking to

the people about actual life about. But then there becomes a point where you kind of read a testimony where you've come through something and you have advice to give because you live through it and it's hard and it's real and it's messy, and it's not something you feel proud to share about the same time you do because you know other people feel the same way and need to. You're somebody to say, hey, I was there, but I

got through it, and you can't do. And so I think when you get to the point in your life where you've gone through something tough, and you know, this could be a value to share with somebody else, to say that you're seeing your known and you're gonna make it um. I think it's a gift to the world

to be vulnerable in that way. But I think sometimes we do share things too soon because we want comfort from online, which you really shouldn't try to find your comfort in people online because they don't know you and they don't see age your heart well, you know, And so I think that there's wisdom and waiting until it's time to share something that is really personal to you.

I'm always interested to talk to famous religious people about social media because there are amazing things that come with social media. All you had seven thousand people at that event you were talking about earlier, and probably wouldn't have been able to touch that many lives without that big of a following. But the Juxtas position in that is that there is like a lot of just evil and hate and trolls that come with social media. How are you able to balance it to Yeah, Well, the truth

is is it's a it's a constant battle. You know. At there are days where I'm so frustrated with social media and I'm like, oh, it's so evil, too terrible. But then there every day that I that I know that there is also opportunity for good. And you have to know that social media is what we make it. So you know, you look at that and you're like, well, that's what we've made it. Like we the people who get to make our profile and choose what we post and choose who we follow, have made it the way

that it is. So there's a huge responsibility to make it better because it is up to us to make it better. And you know, the Bible it talks about Jesus calls us to be the light of the world, to be like a city on a hill whose light

gives off like light to the whole world. And so I think about that in a place that is so dark like that, literally is our calling to be a light, to be a good example, to bring joy in a place that normally brings hate, to bring love on a place that brings you know, hate, and just trolls and all this stuff, to bring peace to people in their day and whenever people are written with anxiety, and we have an opportunity to post stuff like that, And so

there's a balance, you know, I've been thinking about this lately, just reading the Bible that you know, I think a lot of people who become famous, you know, it's it's hard to stay um in faith. There may be religion or close to God. I feel like a lot of people kind of fall. But when I've been reading, like Jesus actually himself was famous, Like he had crowd to people, he had people following him, he had people hating on him,

He had all this stuff. And so when I don't know how to handle something like you really can turn to the Bible and see a perfect example of how to handle a troll or how to handle hey, or how to handle a massive crowd that you're like, do I ever actually get a load time? Um? So yeah. But one of the things Jesus did is he isolated himself after he did huge miracles or after he had a huge moment, or after he was with the crowd,

he went and he was alone. So like, for instance, I just did that thing with some hundred thousand people, and I don't have social media on my phone right now. I deleted it, but I'd probably have it deleted for the next two weeks or so, just because I need to. I need a break, you know, and I think sometimes it's good to kind of have that heart check of like you know, I do I actually need to be

looking at this right now. Um, and then take time for yourself to go on so that you can remain healthy and you know, truly be that light in the place of darkness. Jesus came back to day. Do you think he'd have an Instagram account? Goodness? You know, Jesus, he shocks me. I think I think he would because here's the thing. He was always there, Like, he was always there. He wasn't like, he wasn't weird, Like he

was there. He was in the crowd, he was talking to people, and he was like, hey, let's be like the world. He was dropping bombs. Like think about the captions Jesus would have. I think about he would have. Um, well, I think this is a really cool thing. Uh, this Faithful app. You can grab it at the App Store or Google Play. It's just a really good idea, especially right now when a lot of people just can't go

and congregate and praise Jesus and all that stuff. And I think it's really cool that someone like you is on this platform because let's be honest, it's really hard for a lot of young people to listen to old

white dudes preach at them. I have a hard time with it myself, and I'm much older than you are, and so I think it's really cool to see someone your age being able to touch you know, this gen x, which I think probably needs a lot of guidance right now, just because there's just a lot of weirdness in the world just in general. How old were you when you wrote your New York Times best selling book? Guys? It

was a sophomore in high school. I was writing it because I remember I was really strung, like what about English papers that I was like, I'm writing a book, it should count for something. But yeah, I was a sophomore in high school. Uh. And then it came out towards the end of junior year, which was whenever I was on Dance with the Stars, So that was a really perfect timing. And um, I think that I definitely contributed to just the amount of people that I got

to read it and see it. So, yeah, before we change gears over to kind of my portion of the show, is there anything that you want to talk about that we didn't touch on, or if you want to promote that we that I didn't ask you about. I think, you know. The only thing is just I do have a podcast. That is my most consistent thing that I do. You know, I do speak different places, but our podcast it goes out every Wednesday. That's good. So if you need to send good advice to catch it on the podcast?

Is it just you or do you have a co host with you? So it's just me and then I have somebody I interview each week. I love it. All right, well, everyone go subscribe, download that and then also down to the Faithful appre a quick break and when we come back to anyone, tell you what what my show is about. It's an origin story. I like to find out where people came from and how the hell they got here.

So get ready to tell your story. Quit right, we come back Sadie Robinson right here on the Wells Cast. All right, back on the Wells Cast. Sadie Robinson. You know her from Duck, Dynasty or Dancing with the Stars. She's got a new app out right now where she's a part of a new app called The Faithful App. You can download it now at the Apple and uh Play store also has podcast out that comes out every Wednesday called Woe. That's good. Thank you so much for

being on my show. I do appreciate it. I mean i'd be lying to say that I wasn't a huge fan of Duck Dynasty back in the day, but thanks for having me. Yeah, I mean I missed the show. I want to go back to before the show happened. You know, this is an origin store. So where the hell are you from? So I'm from Westminro, Louisiana. So where I currently am right now too? So full circle, um, but yeah from Westminroe, was raised here, ended up moving at one point in my life, think coming back. Where

are you in a birth order? Okay, so this is confusing because there's six of us, but some were adopted, So birth order I'm second, but adopted order. I've heard an older sister who was adopted oldest, and then my brother John Luke, and then me and I have a younger brother who's adopted Will, then my sister Bella, and then another adopted brother, Rowdy, and everybody kind of came in at different times, and so our order is a little bit confusing about we have a whole lot of

fun in our few what's the dynamic. What's your role in the family in terms of siblings? And my families have always been really close. We all have like a good relationships separately, you know, individually with each other. But it is kind of funny because when our show started, my parents started traveling a lot. I definitely took on mom role to like my three little siblings, and so we joked that my little brother still sometimes says yes ma'am to me because I would be like press routine

like yes ma'am. So funny. And so now you know that we're having a baby, everyone's like, who's gonna be the strict parent? And my little siblings are like definitely her because they experienced the mom's siblings. How old were you when duc Dnassey started. Yeah, so I was in eighth grade when we started filming our pilot, and then about fourteen doing end of my freshman year whenever in

high school, whenever Duke Dynasty started. Okay, so you're yeah, you're super young before the show happens, do you remember, I mean, like what was life like before the show for the Robertson family. So for sure, like for me, growing up was very different than even how my little siblings grew up because it was definitely before the show. Even though eighth grade obviously freshman or high school was young, you know, your childhood raiser. I feel like elementary, middle school,

the whole thing. And so it was just fun. We lived out in uh, the country, and we played a lot outside by parents. We we joke, you know, most kids, good time out. My parents would be like go outside, like, go entertain yourself in the woods. So so many fun. Members of my brother like that. We used to So before duck Yannessey our business with duck Commander, so my mom would have us helping out with the business. So my brother and I would help build duck calls into

the phone, help package things. So we had a lot of fun just doing stuff together as a family. Do you like duck hunt No, I am not a duck hunter. I've actually never been duck hunting with my family. I've actually only been duck hunting one time with a friend, and I'm just that's just not my thing. Yeah, I come from a family that did a lot of hunting, and I've done it a bunch. The problem with duck hunting is, uh, it's very cold and you have to sit in like a steel box and just to freeze

your butt off waiting for the early Yeah, very early, exactly. Okay, so you're like and then I guess the production company comes up to your parents and says, hey, we want to make a show about your family. How does it work?

So what happened is my dad kind of took over the business at the Duck Command of Business, which was my grandpa's business that he's had, Like I think it was forty years since he started a business when our show started, so he had his business for a long time because he invented the double reated duck call, which actually sounds like a duck, so they have been making

videos selling it. So like that when my dad took over the business, he decided, you know, this could be a great Well, my mom kind of is the one that had the idea this could be a great reality TV show because she said, your family is so weird and so entertaining that people would truly watch this and it could be about 'all making the duck calls, the business, all the things. So my dad pitched it to the Outdoor Channel at first. So we got on the Outdoor Channel,

which is typically just a hunting channel. Um, but our show is different because it had hunting and family and so now all of a sudden, wives and kids are watching the Outdoor Channel and their ratings just skyrocketed. So that kind of got the attention of other networks. And um, next we know, Annie made an offer for a show called Duck Dynasty, and you know, we took it and you know, filmed the pilot. Didn't know what was to come,

didn't know obviously the success that it would have. UM, and we're pretty blown away by how many people loved it and watched it and how many families came together because of it. But it was a wild ride. Was there anyone in the family like, hey, us and guys, I don't want to do this? Yeah? Kind of. I mean my grandpa and some of them men were just like, what are we doing like a TV show? This is crazy? UM. And I remember I can't remember it was my grandpa

or somebody, so like, this will never work. And that's like his famous last words, because you know, for the next like however many years, my dad would be like, yeah, this will never work. Uh. It's pretty funny. Were you ever annoyed with how you were portrayed on the show sometimes, but you know it's funny. We were pretty stubborn with how production might want us to do something. We would

not do it. Like I remember first day we were filming and it was like the kids first time to film, and like my grandpa told us to go pick up sticks, and we said, yes, sir, we wouldn't pick up six. In the production people are like, oh wait, wait y'all, y'all aren't supposed to actually do it, Like if he says pick up sick, y'all should be like, oh, we don't want to pick up six, and we're like, are

you kidding? We're not telling him no, like because like you're raised to respect your good fad if they tell you something, you said yes sir. And so I remember they kept trying and like every time we'd be like yes sir, like we couldn't do it, Like we could not do it. And my mom I just told and she's like, don't do anything that isn't true to who

you are. And so I'm glad she gave us that little tipit of advice because you know, we we I feel like we would have regretted things a lot more, have we not um, but we say pretty true to who we were. There were some things that I was like, that's goofy, or I just looked like the typical teenager and I'd be like, oh, that that's just that's just silly. But for the most part, everything that's true to who

we were. What are your friends thinking? Because you're you know, you're still in high school right when you're making this show, Like what are your friends thinking? And how are you able to navigate that? So that was really hard, honestly. So I had some of my closest friends since pre K. I went to a really small private school and we

grew up together. And then all of a sudden, you know, my family is on a TV show and all of America is like knows who we are, and and it was weird because we're from a really, really small town and um, I still was playing basketball, I was still playing tennis, track, doing my normal things, but everything was different. You know, people were showing up to our basketball games just to take pictures and just you know the whole thing. But in l A that might be normal, but in

the real l A, Louisiana, that's not normal. So it was definitely hard to navigate with friends and I feel like there was a lot of friendships unfortunately that where UM lost at the time. That was sad, just because of life being different and people are not really understanding or misunderstanding UM. And that's a hard thing to feel, like super misunderstood because you're like, no, like my life

is changing, but I'm not changing. Uh. But you know it's cool because I feel like God is a redeemer And since then, a lot of those friends that I lost the time circled back and UM kind of rekindled. But yeah, that was an interesting thing to navigate for sure. Would you do a reality show again? Yeah, I think I would. I would. It depends on what it was.

Reality TV is a whole thing. I mean, it is a full on situation and I loved it and it was so fun and for the gift of getting to be with my family so much and hanging out with like Uncle Si and my grandparents, who like I wouldn't like hang out with on a regular basis. Besides the show like that was such a blessing. So if I did it with my family, I'd love to. I wouldn't want a show like about me because that's just not my personality. But it was with my people. I'd love it. Sadie,

IM running out of time with you. But before I let you go, do you have time for some rapid flyer questions? Let's do it alright, rapid fire questions with Sadie Robinson real quick. Oh, I'm gonna go Pineapple? What really? I love Pineapple pizza man right out the gates. So controversial, I know. I felt like I had to say it. Favorite book, Oh, Irregular People. It's like from eighties something. My great grandma gave it to me. Who's your first kiss? Oh? Jeez,

please sah. I did know to say this. It was a terrible first kiss that poor guys like, damn it. What was the first concert you went to? Probably mercy me. I'm not even kidding, something like some church concert. What was your first car? I did have? I just feel so weird to say this. I had to b w X three white one. It's very pretty. Then I traded it in for a jeep because I felt like it fit my personality. Moore, what's your biggest pet? Peeve smacking

like when you're eating? Yeah, like when you're eating and like my husband can smack on like air Like I don't even know how he doesn't. It's just like it's actually a talent. Who was the most famous person in your phone? Oh God, I have no idea. I have no idea. I'll just say this for funny because he's like my dad's best friend. But Luke Brian is like one of our people, and he would not care that I would say his name. What's the weirdest superstition that

you have? I don't really have superstitions, but you still When I played basketball, I thought if I didn't wear my hair in two braids, then I would have a bad game. What's one thing that's always in your fridge avocados? What's the physical trade that you noticed about someone you're attracted to. Well, I'll just say Christian Christians eyes. Do you believe in soul mates? Yeah? How would you describe your high school self? Insecure? Who was or is your

celebrity crush? Oh I don't have a celebrity crush. I gotta say my husband, he's famous. Lastly, who is your favorite family member? Now that's controversy, but for the sake of everybody, probably agree with me. My great grandmother, who was a legend, Sadie Robinson, Thanks so much. For being on the Welles Cast. You've been to delight everyone out there. Go download the Faithful app at the App Store and

Google Play download or subscribe to WOA. That's good, buy your book, follow you where on an Instagram, legit Sadie rob and pretty much from there. I put everything else out. Go there, say you think so much for me on the show. You're awesome. Yeah, thank you, good to hang later. Well, she's just the sweetest thing in the world. It's not a lot. Really young age Jesus made feel kind of bad on myself. I go write a book. All right. That's our show. I hope you enjoyed it. Yeah, I'm

gonna go watch him Doug Dynasty later. Subscribe to Wells Cast on I Heart Radio, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. It's the Internet.

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