Housewife in The Hills

I'm gonna share a little secret with you guys. We did a pilot years before I ever did Housewives, and yeah, it wasn't It was a little messy, So maybe we'll get into that. But of course we're gonna talk all things Hills. Pizza Girl her delicious pizza sauce along with her amazing restaurant. They one time for Valentine's Day, she sent me a pizza and it was a heart shaped, so cute. So I can't wait to talk about all of the things. All right, you guys, So here goes.

You guys submitted so many questions I love asking. So we're gonna just get right into the hills and then we'll talk other things. First, how did you in Caitl and meet Caitl and I? How, well, that's a little bit of like I Caitlin and I met last season, UM round a bit um. Misha and I were friends and she was filming that season UM, and so I was around a bit while everybody was filming. UM. But then we had some mutual friends and we just kind of fell in friendship. Love. Oh, I love that. Well, oh,

so you were friends with Misha. There's she's been in the press a lot recently. Are you guys still in touch? Has she been in the press a lot? Yes, about all this stuff about the o C. And like, I'm honestly, I'm on like a text exchange called the Delicious Crumbs where we like share just gossip and whatnot. It's, you know, so lovely, but either way, yeah, it's about like the treatment when she was on you know, the o C

and all of these things. I've just been seeing it everywhere and then Rachel Bilson spoke out, so I was like, it's a lot, It's a lot. I literally don't know because I don't see like press, I don't even yeah, I see like you know, my office, my child and the outdoors one of those like, well I love that. So okay, So you guys became close through meeting on the show essentially, and then I would say, yeah, we met on the show for sure. Yeah, and then how

much should you end up filming this year? I actually filmed a lot and they are like not showing any of it so far, so who knows. I really like, I have no idea, Like, I know you were kind of new, like we had done some funny stuff together in the past, but as for like actually being a cast member on a show like this is my first time and I have no idea how it actually works. But I was actually there in all of those episodes. I just yeah, um, I haven't been rolled out yet.

I guess last season they had a really like hard time shoving Misha into Um. It's really hard to just like introduce a new cast member, as you know, you know, especially with something like The Hills where people have been fans of the show for you know, fifteen years and they know these cast members so well, So to just force feed a new cast member I think is really difficult. So I think that they're giving me like a nice ease into so it doesn't feel too forced. I think that,

you know, that makes sense. What would you say has been the easiest part in the hardest part about filming? Oh my god, um, let's see the easiest part. What was easy about filming? Um, do anything? I mean it was it's fun at times, like it's really fun. And then you know, for me, like because of COVID and everything, it was such a weird way to do it for the first time, you know, like we couldn't have any

outer interaction. Um, it was just us and you know, being tested every day, and it was just very like strange, you know what I mean. So I don't know all the different procedures and whatnot that everybody has to fall up. Oh yeah, all the different procedures and I even through like a Pizza Girl like relaunch event and having to get every single person tested for that and then retested and then like it was just it was really it was a really weird time for me to do my

first kind of reality show season. So it was fun. And I don't think people realize how much filming act actually goes into one episode. Like at least on the show I did. We filmed five, six days a week, multiple things, and then there's so much that you never see and you're like, what I had in three outfit changes? I did all of these things and nothing like there's just days will just be gone. It's completely crazy. I mean the amount that I filmed, um and what people

are actually gonna see, it's like, I don't even it's nothing. Yeah, it's literally nothing. So yeah, So other than Caitlin, who are you closest with? And then who are you having the hardest time getting along with? And you have to give me all the juicy you tell people when they ask you stuff like that, I mean, far scientists, Why don't you think I have the jobs I have? I have to It's part of being authentic. You gotta say, like,

you know, it's impossible for everybody to love everybody. It is, and that's why we're That's why the people tune in, because you like to see the chemistry of the relationships their gel or like you know what, that's not really my person. That's why I feel like next season it'll be easier for me to say all these things. I just don't know what they're gonna show and then if I go, you know, um, you know, put my foot in my mouth and say like I didn't get along

with somebody and they never even show it. Now I'm going to have beef with somebody that I maybe didn't even need to have, but actually you probably want to have it, so you don't just give it to me. You can't skate around the you know what this is saying? Everybody knows that, Like I mean, Misha's not on the show anymore, but everybody knows that we had beef. Um, it's really like, it's documented. It's very Yeah, that was

all the press though I don't even know what. I don't even know about that be I literally thought you were saying she was in the press because of our beef. Now it was your beef. Hello. I know. It was crazy. It was so crazy. So it was basically we were friends last season and then she um had gone behind my back, I guess in some way to keep me off the show. So I threw a world party last

season that nobody ever got to see at Kathy Hilton's house. Um. Yeah, and it was amazing and Kathy's like, really that family is a really good supporters and really good friends of mine, and she was like, absolutely do this, you know, for your company and have this event. And I had the Hills cast members there and everything, and they were actually unable to use that scene. After I worked so hard and Kathy and everybody came to like make this happen

for me and my company. They weren't able to use that scene because Misha, we found out, wouldn't speak my name in the interviews. Um, you know, like when you do the interviews and they're like, so tell me you were who was the event you were at and the dada and they can't piece anything together when people are purposely trying to keep your name, like they just won't even mention you, right, so like it just didn't happen.

So then they couldn't use the footage. I had a lot of people last not a lot of people, but more than one person last season purposely tried to hurt my chances of being on this show. I know. It's so much more than actual on screen drama. Like I've actually heard because we have the same producers, you know, Evolution Alex and everybody, and I've heard that like, you guys are much easier to handle than a deal with Well, I think it's because of the past and how you know,

the switch production companies. So I think it's how originally was versus how it is now, all those types of things. But I think you know, what ends up happening on all of these shows the longer that you do it, different egos are involved, different you know, different rules apply to everybody, and it's you know what they called on reality TV, as you know, but maybe some of the listener's note is the fourth wall. So a lot of the drama that everybody sees is the actual people breaking

the fourth wall. So no matter what the situation is, like you can even tell in this episode where people are getting upset at Heidi for drinking or whatever it may be that like in her mind, she's already thinking, what are people going to be watching this show? Thinking, See, I didn't even think that far ahead yet. I'm so

I'm so still give it time. Yeah, I'm so green that I'm like really thinking, like like people are so calculated and um way beyond my scope of like, um just mean, and it's just not something that I absolutely love, So um I think maybe, yeah, I mean I never thought that people would be that like they would do things where they would look into the camera for my

scenes so that they'd be null and void. Um. They would do things so that, um, if I spoke, they would say things that would have to get cut out, like oh, you're just trying to get in this scene. Like that happened to me so much that it's like everybody just trying to keep the new girl down that it's almost like that's kind of why a lot of my stuff isn't really I don't know, it's it was

very stressful and really hard to deal with. Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean that's about I mean, I was, you know, on a show for three years that surrounded itself around drama abo slee in the mix of it. But the one thing that I can say a million percent is like every single person on that show wants everybody to succeed, even if you're fighting and stuff is dirty and like you know, we know, like the case for this show and that's not the case for me.

And it's like I just wish everybody got that. It's a freaking TV show, you know what I mean At the end of the day, like we can if we fight or whatever, Like that's people like it was just so complicated and like stressful to be honest, like I just feel like nobody wants anybody to succeed on this show. I mean a lot of people don't. Not everybody, So sorry for saying that. I just have a lot of frustration, but a lot of people made um it, Hell yeah,

Well what was your thoughts? Because a lot of the questions that came in were that night that you know, everybody was out and drinking and did you think it was too much? Like because watching it back, I'm kind of like, you know, actually an explanation for why I'm not in that scene. Why really glad that it got cut out. I ended up getting wasted at the winery prior to that, and um, fell asleep in the bus on the way back to that scene. So that's not

anybody shown that that was my fault. Yeah, and he didn't. They're not showing like stuff like that. So and I'm actually slightly veryful. Um I was, I was wild on that bus ride home. But yeah, I do think that they should have shown that. I think they should have sene that. And for me, like if you're going away on a trip, I'm not saying that you have to get wasted. But I didn't like that everybody was like dogging them out for doing it. Like one, Hidie is

a good drunk. She's not like maybe I am not the world's best drunk, but Hidie is like fun and laughing. She's not mean, there's no like it really seemed like she was having a good time. And then everyone like saying, you know, Brodie's like all of a sudden so entitled and saying these things. I'm like, dude, with the bob haircut and all the things, I didn't take a couple of seats. Yeah, listen, I mean everybody is ready to like criticize everybody when they're just as guilty, you know

what I mean. So, um yeah, I find it kind of silly too. And did you how awkward was the amber situation. She didn't speak much, like I didn't really get to know her on any level. Um, I actually like feel for her. It sucks to be one of a million girls that somebody is hanging out, you know what I mean, Like that's not cute. I mean in the first scene, he was like saying, like they were naked in a bath together. I mean, you're just my

friend on television. I was like mortified for her. So yeah, I know you can tell that she like, you know, wants to please him or whatever. But also what he's not taking into consideration into the relationship is she has also put in a pressure cooker right now on a show, having to be all the thing, you know, like all of that. Of course she's gonna want to have a couple of drinks. She's twenty four years old and filled

with strangers that are all judging her. Not to mention one of the strangers is her boyfriend or whatever it is ex wife, Yeah, yeah, ish well no, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really nerve racking. I mean, listen, I drank too much basically every night because that is scary with all those cameras around and all of that and being new to it and just being thrown into it, and nobody helped her, just like nobody helped me. It's very scary.

So I feel for her for sure. And then what do you did Caitlin like confide in you at all about how she was feeling? Like do you think Bernie should have told her that he was bringing a girl. Let's be real, there's there's cameras around, there's a friend trip like that was a little like I I felt for Caitlin in that moment, but like I always have her back, So I definitely felt like it was it could have been he could have told, like given her

a heads up just so she wasn't blindsighted, you know. Yeah, And I mean I was slicing around a little bit because well, that's my job, the same podcasts. But I saw that people were saying, well, how could she be upset when she had such a public relationship with Miley Cyrus afterwards, and like she had her own relationship after they were broken up, like everybody does. We all move on people, we all date other people, you know what I mean. Her has happened to be like public or whatever.

So people are how many people did he move on with right after? Come on, they just weren't, um, you know, super famous, so it didn't get like mega pressed. But um, I feel like everybody's allowed to move on, and you know if they're such good friends, like she would have told him if she was bringing a guy on a friend trip. You know, do you think that men and women that are were once together can truly be such

good friends? I do, because I'm doing that right now, um with I mean I've managed to stay friends with pretty much everyone I dated, So yeah, the I am not like for me, I think that men and women, if you were in a relationship that we didn't date back to like years and years ago, Like I think it's one thing like co parenting or something like that that's different and having like a cordial relationship. But I think that it's extremely hard for at least one of

the people. Nah. Nah, And you know what, you know what it is, it's your maybe your husband won't allow you to be super chummy with that person. It depends on if the person you're dating is going to be cool with it. Um, you know what I mean, Like, that's when it gets that's when it gets hard, because no, I mean I think, like listen, like my first boyfriend who like totally broke my heart. I loved him, I was so obsessed with him. Now I'm like so close

with him. His ex wife, my ex husband's girlfriend of eight years, and I am our children. We all play

together like all the time and hang out. So I have to say, you are, I mean, that's impressive because for you know, I was married before too, and my husband we we hung out you know altogether my my edwin and my ex husband and then it got to a time where like he got into a new relationship and then all of a sudden we all realize, like, you know, what it's best for I mean, we didn't have kids involved, so it's different, but it's best for all parties involved. Like if we're hanging on, what are

we really hanging on too? Because in order to fully move on, sometimes you've got to go on. That's to me, that's a little like I don't want to use the word immature, but I guess it's more like, you know, hanging on because you still have feelings. There's always like a friendship there, I believe, like I but I think out of respect in what way, like like out of respect like if you were to get married again, right,

yea out of respect for each other. I'm just like the like, but yes, you should have a friendship in the point that, like you guys, can you know, be at the same birthday party do those types of things together. But if you're when things go wrong in your life or things are really great, if you're one of your top calls is to your ex versus to your current

well that's a problem. Well, nobody said that. That's very different to actually like call somebody over your person that is that's or even along with the person, like sharing those moments with somebody that is in your past. I think it could be. I can get messy. It depends on how mature you are about it and how much you trust your partner. Right, yeah, So did you ever hang out with Miley and Caitlin? No, Nope, that was Caitlin and my friendship came after that. Yeah, okay, perfect.

And who other than Caitlin on the show. Do you feel the most connected with Adrina? For sure? You know and I've known each other forever and we did really Can't Be Poor film together a million years ago called Sorority Row. I'm sure I need to watch. It's really actually quite good. It's fun, you know, it's it's not you know, gonna win anybody in cat Award, but it went to theaters and it was well, it was well done.

Um and actually yeah, like rumor Willis was on that with that was in that with us and our from is this before she ever did the Hills the first time? You know, it was like go see Adrina from the Hills getting murdered, you know what I mean? You know, it was funny because like Paris Hilton, another friend of mine, had a similar thing where it was like see Paris die,

like when she was in that movie. That was like a moment where like they wanted these kind of pop culture you know, hot girls to get murdered in movies. So it was kind of funny. Um, so what do you think is harder? Because I know back in the day, like the phrase isn't really used anymore, but you were like the social light girl around town. What do you think is harder being on a reality show or having to maintain being the girl That was fun and easy and we were just wild and having a blast and

that was like that came naturally. I think being on the Hills is much more difficult for sure. Um It's just I can I I'd rather maybe I should jump over to the Housewives. What do you think? I really? I Like, I called Alex one day and I was like, you got any spots for me? I just don't know what on the hills right now because everybody hates me and it's you know, very scary. Well, I can. I can say my first season I felt really afraid to. Like I got really emotional at times because I felt like,

what is happening? Like it doesn't feel natural to me, Like I had to force myself to stay present, yeah, because like my mind would race and I be like okay, And then there's that pressure of like, Okay, you have to talk. You have to you know, you have to put yourself in the conversation or else you know, you're not in it. You're not in it and you're non void and you're fighting in the extingent. But how about having people literally speak to you so that you cannot

be in it? What about if you just said hey, like on camera, just like in front of everybody, like hey, guys, I'm here trying to be friends with y'all, trying to, you know, take this to the next level. We can all grow and learn from each other. Like why can't we just have a little bit of respect for each

other and have a little fun. Well, there's like a control aspect that some of these characters have where they're like basically like if you're not if you don't fall in line with what we want, we're going to ruin you. That is literally that I deal with. I won't name you. I'm not naming names. Fine, give me one letter. I'm not doing it because I've literally, um, I've been warned of this wrath and I'm just like, I have balls

and I'm not scared of them. I'm more like, I'm more like, maybe it will come out on its own. So maybe I'll be the bigger person for for not naming at that point, you know what I mean. But I really do feel like I was treated really poorly. Um, I feel and I was, you know, talking to producers and I was upset about it. I was like, these people won't engage with me, they won't talk to me. You know, we had a beef one night and now it's Nolan Boyd because the rest of the season, they're

just cutting me out of it. The amount of control that they give some of these characters on the show, um, is unfair to the other people on the show that want to make it a real show. Yeah, breaking breaking down the episode a little bit more. Yeah, do you think I don't know, I kind of got the vibe that Justin Bobby is into Caitlin. I know, is that is that happening? Is there was that a thing? Well? I mean, look if they're both really sexy, so why not, right,

I mean, yeah, and um, neither of them. So and do you did you ever have any attraction to anybody on the show. Uh, there was a little bit of an attraction, um, but um, yeah, it wasn't. It was just me going through you know, I just gone through a divorce. I was kind of just um, yeah, feeling a bunch of different things out. So and then were you shocked to hear that Brody and Audrina hooked up or were you and you knew that happened. Yeah, I

wasn't shocked. Yeah, they've always had like a chemistry for sure. Do you think they'll ultimately end up together? I kind of think they're kind of great for each other, to be honest, So I don't know. I mean I was always an adrena justin Bobby fan, just because I wasn't

die hard. It's actually like a night where I don't know if it will actually air or not, because we never know what will But I actually got quite buzzed and I was like, you know, romantic sad like vibe, and I was like, well, you guys just get back together. I was thinking, enough, I'm so here for Adrena and Justin Bobby and they were like really shut up, yeah, And then who do you think is like the most

fun of the cast? Like I was watching last night, I mean whatever night it was on, but I was watching and I was, you know, kind of looking around like if I was on the show or if I was part of this group, like who would I have the most fun with? And I was trying to decide because there's parts that you see similarities and everybody, so you're like, okay, I see that to see that, but like being in the moment, who do you think, well, like I'm the most fun However, you don't get to

see that yet. At some point maybe you'll get to see that. But I'm definitely a loads of them. But I think like people, you know, it's interesting, some people come off more fun, and then off camera, some people that aren't don't seem as like that are like put together, they're actually like wildly fun like off camera, so you never really can tell. So that's tough. And then what else, what else do we need to cover? What was like last night's episode? What part of it did you feel like, Okay,

this actually really felt authentic? And was there part where you were like what, I didn't even know this was going on, you know what. I was at a really important dinner meeting last night and did not see the episode. Oh I know, I know. I've been a little scared to watch them as well. I don't know what's going to happen, you know what I mean. I haven't really been like I've been a little scared. So yeah, I mean last and the episode essentially what happened was Brody

was upset that Amber was drinking with Heidi. I remember that. Yeah, and then he was honestly like brooding around and then not very that was normal, that's par for the course, totally real. Yeah, he was like super upset with it, and she was like yeah, and then how do you how do you think Amber was handling it like the because even the next day you see it and she really doesn't say anything. She seems like almost like scared to say anything. Like there's a point where she's even

like I've got to go to the restaurant. You could just see like like could you feel that tension? Definitely Like yeah, I saw something that even happening like off camera that was definitely like that. I mean, here's what I'll say about the show, like the interactions are real, you know what I mean, Like, obviously you don't normally plan to all be in the same room you know what I mean every night, But the interactions, as you know, like they have been the real and they derive from real,

real feelings, so it's all real. Um um. But yeah, it's just end up cutting room floory never know. Yeah, and then we have to dig into the Sean Stewart of it all a little bit. I okay, Yeah, he's one of your best friends. Yeah, we grew up together. Yeah, his sister Kimberly and I are best friends growing up. Yeah, because I I mean I remember him from like clubs when I was younger too, and but I don't remember him being like so quirky and fun and like easy going.

I'm like, what is happening? Yeah, Sean's really funny, and he's like very smooth and like really funny and like he's very charming. Um, he's just like, Yeah, there was this one night that I was really upset I'd been going through my divorce, and we reenacted the entire dance sequence from um Dirty Dancing together, Like, yeah, entire I have it all on tape, so maybe I'll post it one day. But it was hilarious. He totally just like you know, knows how to like make you laugh, and

you know, um, he's a he's a great guy. He's a great catch. So's he's I know, because I don't think it's gonna work out for Audrey and I. I you can feel that it's the chemistry is not there because he and the kiss was a little and I was sitting not too far away from that moment, and I could you'll, like, even when she says right before he goes in for the kids, she's like just when peck or whatever, like that's she's parannicking about the kiss. And then he did another one. I was like, the

goodbye kiss and then talked about it. I was having second hand awkward humiliation watching it. I was like, this kiss is brutal. Poor guy, he's the best. So I don't know. Yeah, I mean, listen, they're definitely yeah, I mean I think, but that I think also like any type of like even when I saw Brodie in the bathtub with Amber, any of those types of like intimate like intimate scenes are so awkward in general, Like I I mean, I couldn't even imagine getting into a bathtub

or having a first kiss. Yeah, sober in the daytime. Second, I mean no, anybody's kids would be like awkward. So I don't know, you know, because you have so much weight on your mom yend, what are people you know, like you have to explain it at some point. It's just very awkward. Yeah, And like Audrina so nice. You can tell that like she wants to do the right thing and not hurt anybody's feelings, but also like I can't do this. Yeah. Yeah, she's so sweet. She's like

one of the nicest people I know. I know she every time I've been around her, she's so fun, so kind, and she's such a good mother. You don't get to see that on the show, but like such an incredible mother, And like every time I've been around her and her daughter, I'm I'm floor. They're just wonderful people. Yeah, she's so awesome. We're definitely planning some play dates with the kids, and um, we all should do that. I know. Well, it brings us to the last thing we have to discuss it

to veer away from the hills. So so you guys know, I mean I put on my Instagram this morning. We did a pilot together a jillion years ago. Yes, we did. I'm surprised you're bringing that up because I'm gonna tell people the truth of the matter. Oh, we've gotten a huge Well, I'm gonna I don't seem to me talk about mean reality people. Well this is the problem. You were drinking, and I said to you, we were. This type of reality show was different. It was like fully scripted.

None of us knew each other. It was honestly like eight strangers put together. And we were like, okay. So we had this big dinner and the dinner was fine. We all like the trap staunt on Third Street. Oh, I don't know a start. We were at a straw or whatever it's called. So we had this big dinner. Then on the car ride over to the next place, because they were filming all of it this trying to cram it in twenty four hour periods, so we had

like fifty four scenes in one day. So on the way in the car, the producer tells me, you're there in the car, guys, someone needs to do something if we want this show to be picked up. So wait right over. Yes, and you said, Teddy let's do it. And I'm like okay. But by the time we got to the restaurant, you had forgotten we had agreed to this appearance. I started going at you and you are like all of a sudden, I'm like, she's crumbling. What's happening.

We had this plan in the freaking car, and I'm and Laura's looking at me, and she's like what the hell because the Laura is one of the other girls on the show. Then you lonch yourself in the bathroom and I'm like, bang on the door. I'm like, Caroline, please, I'm talking. We discussed this like and I'm trying to like break the fourth wall the whole thing. You wouldn't talked to you for two days. I was so mad at you. But see, alcohol is a really big like

it's a problem of mine. Like I am totally fine. And then I'm like, but you know what, Like yeah, I was. I was. I was shocked when you came at me like that. And also like in my restaurant like telling me to serve you like you look like a psycho. You were like, bitch, go get me some knack. You'll get me some now. I was like, you realized we scripted it. In the car on the way to the restaurant. I was like, oh, but I mean right

after we finished filming, I called my agent. I'm like, I if this show gets picked up, I cannot do it. I absolutely cannot live with it because all of it. I mean, it was I mean, in lack of a better word, a complete show. It really was, and honestly, none of the personalities really like went together very well and whatever it was, it was definitely a show. It was like, what is happening here? Um? But yeah, I know I was mortified. Yeah, you were like so scary. Um.

I definitely felt for your Real Housewives co stars. When I found out you were on there, I was like, oh god, I was like good. The next time I even saw you was I was filming for Housewives. We were doing the runway and you were walking in it. Yeah, and you were so nice and and like I was like, that's ver. Yeah, that was fun. That was good. Um,

yeah that was awesome. So no, I listen, I mean after the next day or whatever, Yeah, I was like, whatever, she's she was just doing you know, acting basically, I mean, that's exactly what I was doing. But then it was a real wake up call. Then when I when I got you know, Housewives, that like, that's not actually how reality television is, Like there was there's there was nothing scripted on that. There was nothing like producers weren't like hey, you know, like yeah you and like I remember that.

I was like, oh, okay, this is actually like we're just showing up and being authentic. Granted, my authentic self is not always the best, so trust me, I've been there with you. I mean, listen, if everybody on the planet was filmed all the time and on television, they would have moments that they would cringe at. Um. But it's kind of good when you see yourself in that light because then you can really work on yourself and like, you know, see the things that you don't like about

yourself and just fix them. So I'm definitely on the journey of like on that path. So whatever happens happened. And yeah, I mean I can say my marriage has got stronger. Really why doing the show, because I realized the first season how much I was like nagging my husband and I was like, wow, babe, I didn't even

realize I was doing that. And he's like yeah, And I really like took account for I'm like, I'm going to change this behavior because sometimes you don't see the parts of yourself and to all of a sudden, there's like a camera focused in and on. I'm like, I can't, I can't be like this anymore. He's it's it's it's too much, and like it really like shift our conversation.

So I think, you know, reality TV can be hard, but it also can be like eye opening to you know, some of the habits we've picked up absolutely, Like I definitely need to work on my emotional drinking. Um, yeah, it's when it's fun, it's great, but when you're drinking when you're sad, like I had literally just come off a divorce, so I was just like kind of crumbling a lot, you know, So it was hard, but I definitely know that, like, yeah, I need to not emotionally drink,

you know. I kind of start a rule for myself that I followed every time except once, which is three drink max while filming a lot. Even three and I'm wasted. So it's well, if it's full, like a full like a lot of hours, if you crammed into one dinner, that's too much. But like if it, I was like okay. But the one night that I didn't, I was like a hot mess. And I woke up the next day and I was like, how am I going to live my life? Like I'm thinking like, bitches, get ready when

I can stop thing? It's all on, you know, like that's it. I Am just gonna be that clean. Be Oh my gosh. Well, what is one thing you can tease for everybody as we wrap it up? Um? What can I tease? Oh my god? What can I tease? Well? Um, what can I tease? You're going to be very surprised about who I actually have a crush on this season. Um. Yeah, so that's a tease. And um, you guys get to learn a lot about my my company, Pizza Girl. So yeah, you get to learn about how I lost it all

through COVID and had to start all over. Yeah, and I actually get it back together and you know, a single mom, women owned startup company and yeah, it's actually going really well now. So check it out Pizza Girl dot com, um and follow at Pizza Girl Official, please support and um yeah, you know, it's been a long, crazy ride and I'm really grateful for where I am right now. So you'll get to come along with me for that ride, I think, unless it ends up the

cutting room floor. Well I love it. I'm so proud of you. Please send me some of the sauce. Oh yeah, I'm sending it your way. You are said it was amazing, so please send away. And I'm hoping for the best for the rest of the season. And I'm excited to see who that crush is. Oh yeah, alright, guys, we're gonna take a little break and then I'll be on with Jordana from CST key. So now we're bringing on Geordana. George. Sorry, now we're bring on Jordana from the CISA key And

so thanks for joining us, Thanks for having me. So you this is the first time ever doing reality TV. How does it feel? Um, honestly, it feels like second nature to me. I don't know. I think it was like I got to know the camera, like everyone behind the camera and stuff, so like I started getting easier and easier, and it just at first I was a little scary, but I got over that quick. Um. Do you have any regrets from this season? Um? Yeah, I think my I think my most regret is not getting

the painting how I wanted it. But that made me a little sad by the way, because you put a lot of effort into that, so I felt your pain there, um, but I thought you did a nice job. The thing about that was I had told Sam and Juliet many times that I needed like specific photos of her, and I never got anything. And this was like months and months of like production asking me, like, you know, when

you're gonna start the painting, this isn't that. I'm like, well, I can't start it until I have like what I need, you know. So I wish I would have gone what I needed because at first the painting looked like juliett and then it started to morph like the longer. I don't even know how to explain it, but like the way the way it started, the way it ended is like not how it started. I don't even know what happened.

I honestly, it just I think I was working with her selfies, and herselfies are completely different than like suttle shade. There shuttles subtle shade. I mean maybe just a little bit, you know, I don't know. There's a there's a lot of faces that that painting had already, so not wrong through another one. Well, you know, don't beat yourself up girl, like I you know, I think that and Tever, how do you know Sam in the first place? Um, me and Sam we go way back actually, like almost ten

years now. I met him through one of my best friends that lives in Tampa now. But um, she knew Sam and all Sam's friends and we used to party with them and get really crazy. Um, Sam and Brittany to break up all the time, so they would like beyond break so get back together. And like when I would hang out with Sam, him and Brittany would be on a break and he'd be like in party mode and like whatever, and then me and Brittany got close, and you know, it all just trickled from there. But um,

I actually met really years back. She used to like come hang out at Sam's house with Alex and like party, but I never really talked to her. Had like a few conversations, not too much. And I don't know if this is public knowledge because I'm newer to watching the show, But did you and Sam used to hook up? We did?

I mean we did once, but I mean out of ten years of friendship, you know, like it didn't continue so like we were just better off as friends and we like knew it, and I love him to death and he's literally one of my most cherished friends and will always be one of my friends. So and in this episode, do you remember saying that you loved him and wanted to make out with him? Like I felt that.

I'm like, I don't know if she's fully remembering this, you know, if that was um, I definitely remember saying that I loved Sam. I remember saying everyone was so uptight, and I was like, like, let's just have fun like everyone just like you know, like and it was our first time like hanging out after quarantine. Everyone was quarantined for like five days, so it was the first night

we all got together. And like, I don't know, I just went a little to ham I guess, or be hard on the paint um with that, but you know I I was just like, let's let's joke around. Like I was like, let me just like add some fuel to the fires, see what happens. And like I guess then my drunk self did that, But you know, I didn't mean it in a way like, oh, I want to make out with Sam. I was just like I make out with Sam, like he's not unattractive, like, you know,

like any normal woman would make out with Sam. Like, well, I meant it, but it got taken I gotta taken out of context. Yeah, but well, speaking of making out, what is going on with Brandon? God, Brandon was putting the moves on me way before the island. I need to the whole situation, like are you still into Brandon? Were you into Brandon or were you just doing it for like fine I you know, at first, I was like, now there's no one here that like I really on

the show. I was like, there's no one here that I'm really interested in, you know, like you know, I love a standard Death. But he really is just like

one of my best friends. And but when me and branded the music video together, I just kind of like we kind of vibe that day, and I was like, oh, like maybe like he would be fun to talk to, Like I don't know, you know, since we're gonna be stranded on an island together, maybe I should get some friends that aren't like aligned with each other, because you know, Sam and Juliet. Juliet wasn't really a big fan of me stand on me at the time, and you know.

I was just like, well, let me just creep my alliance, isn't it. And I don't know. Me and Brandon just hit it off. You're like the black sheep. And I like him, I really did. I'm right now, we're not, you know. I just I think you'll see the more you watch the show what happens between us. But um, he just has a lot going on, and honestly, like I right now, I need to either be single or be with someone who can like elevate me, because if

that's not the case, then I'm out. You're out. Did you know that Kamil was right there or were you? I do not remember that. I was like, yeah, I do not remember like kissing Brandon that night. That was the first time we kissed too, and I do not remember that. And do you think he's still into her? From what I've heard. I don't know if it's just like people being catty with me, but from what I've heard, yes, So I don't know. I try to like stay out

of that. We might need to boy by him, we need we might like I I you know, watching it, I was like, I don't know. I even the combo he had with like his ex and the baby. I was like, I don't know, I might be out on that situation for you if you're looking to elevate yourself. No, I agree, I agree. I'm playing nine years old, like you know, I you know, I don't think I have time for that nonsense. Might end up hurting more than

it's helping. So what's the one thing as we close, because we don't have much time, that you can tease that's coming up that people are going to be excited to see. Um? Oh, I can't say you mean coming up in the next episode or like just in just in general. Okay, I can't say that I get a rego at the portrait? Oh how can you? Can you damn it to me? I want to see it before anybody else. Yes, I mean if I'm allowed to, I will. Um, but it's already done. I mean, it's kind of done.

It's it's done enough for the cameras. But I'm actually going back to Sam's later this month to like put the finishing touches on it, because it's never done, you know, for me. But well, and how do you can Juliet stand today? Oh? No, We're good. I mean, like, listen, this is the thing. It's she's dating one of my best friends. Like I never want there to be any kind of tension there, you know, like it's I'm too grown for that, and I feel like Sam feels the

same way. Um. You know, at first, I'm not saying that it's not heated a lot, because that whole island was just awkward. A lot of it was super awkward. Like there was times where I wasn't like I would be so dumb with everybody. I needed like three or four days to myself when I wasn't filming, and I would just take my little iPad, go on the hammock, put on my computer on my iPad, and watch it

like all day, like Crime Mystery Ship all day. I'm like this, okay, now I'm back at my annoyal reality so of like not TV stuff, you know, so my escape is crime as well. My husband will come in and he'll be like, what are you watching the full asleep to I'm like, I can't. I don't know why it's so soothing. I did that the other day and I woke up in the morning and my front door was unlocked. I was like, leave my front door unlogged. Watching crime documentaries and would be the girl that, like,

you know, does that so good? So where do people find you so they can be in the know of all things Danna? Um? Well, right now, it's my Instagram, which is what I'm mostly on. It's Jordanna Barnes Underscore because the other one was taken um and then I am building a website right now. I'm currently working on putting like all of my original artwork on there and stuff, so that's soon to come, which is super exciting for me. Well, very cool. Thank you so much for joining us this week,

and I'm excited to see what's to come. Likewise, I'm excited for you all right bye, and thank you guys for joining this week's Hills Cast. I had so much fun filling in for Wells. I can't wait to hear what he's up to. But uh, I hope that you guys can also follow along and listen to my podcast at teddy te Pod and I look forward to talk to you all soon. This is a Wells Cast with Wells, Adams and I Heart Radio podcast