It is something we all have in common. We all have our senses. It's not this huge lift. I'm not trying to talk to you about this one sex act. I'm trying to say what does your body do when it loves something and what does your body do when it doesn't.
A few weeks ago, I had the most incredible opportunity to speak at Yale School of Medicine yes, that Yale about the neuroscience of touch and havening techniques, and it was the Women's Mental Health Conference. Obviously, may is Mental Health Awareness Month, so it was perfect timing and I was surrounded by the most incredible doctors and researchers and practitioners and teachers and therapists and women, and during that time time I had a chance to witness some of my fellow speakers in action.
But one talk, one talk my friends put me that pulled me back like no other menopause and mental health. You know where we're going from intimacy and relationships and sex and sexuality and, yes, how to break the silence, and even lots of statistics that stopped me in my tracks, and you know I do this for a living, so it takes a lot to stop me in my tracks. So you know I had to walk right up to Dr Juliana Hauser and I said I need you on my show. And here you are, so I'm so glad to have you.
Thank you so much and it was so great meeting you there. I'm really excited about this conversation with you.
Yeah, this is a great conversation and we were talking last week about this and I said it was so hard to get you alone Because for the first 15 minutes that I was trying to talk to you, you were actually talking to my boyfriend, chris. So obviously this isn't just a topic that resonates with women. It's partnership too.
Like how do we understand our partners, how do we show up for them, how do we understand ourselves and I think that's really where I want to go is that whole idea of our own sexual agency and really truly discovering and having understanding of it. So let's go there, because these topics are happening. Juliana, like we're seeing more people talk about menopause, which is great, but what makes Dr Juliana different?
I think two parts of this. I, as a therapist, was sitting here and see a part of a lot of the conversations and a part of the big people in this space, and I was talking about sexuality, which I love to do and it's a big part of my work and it's been a big part of my research for 20 years. But I kept sitting there thinking, but what about mental health? But what about mental health? But but what about mental health? And my worlds often collide, but sometimes they don't.
And when I started asking about like, can I speak, can I have a talk? That's just about mental health, I didn't have as much receptivity to it and and it was often put as like a sentence, it was a, a quote, it was a and we have to think about our mental health and, to no fault of anyone, that's not a criticism to what was happening, it was a noticing of.
This is missing and it's a critical part and it's mental health is often left out of multitude of topics, same with sexuality, but the mental health in general. And and I started thinking, if we are speaking about tips that are helping with our quality of longevity super important, if we are talking about how to make our quality of life better.
I'm so thrilled that we're speaking about this in perimenopause menopause but if women aren't able to get off the couch because they are paralyzed with depression, if they are considering suicide or not knowing what their self-worth is anymore, if they are riddled with anxiety, then we're not going to be able to help them with any of these longevity tips, because they're suffering too much.
And I just wanted to them with any of these longevity tips because they're suffering too much, and I just wanted to. I wanted that to be one of the first things that we talk about. I wanted it to be hormonal replacement. Therapy needs to have a very different PR, which has happened already, and I think mental health needs a new PR spin too.
So I wanted to speak about that, and I find myself often in the taboo spaces and speaking about the things that other people are maybe afraid to say, and I'm not really sure why. I feel comfortable doing it, but I guess I've developed a pretty thick skin in the sexuality space and so I'm willing to go there and I don't. I don't myself see it as taboo, but I know that mental health and therapy still has a stigma attached to it. Not as much as it used to be, but still does.
Isn't it amazing that we actually have to put this in a category that we're calling taboo? I mean, last year, when I was speaking at a podcasting conference, I was asked to be on a panel that was about taboo topics, and one of the taboo topics that I was talking about was trauma. And I'm thinking why are these taboo topics? And one of the taboo topics that I was talking about was trauma and I'm thinking why are these taboo topics?
This is the kind of conversation we should be having and, yes, even what you're talking about with perimenopause and menopause and women's health and mental health is not something that we've been talking about a lot. Probably in the last I would even gather to say less than five years, it's really been starting to be talked about in this space, but still taboo Like why do you think that is?
We have a cultural problem with bringing people in to the problems that we have, with bringing people in to the problems that we have. In lots of ways it still is viewed as impolite or they can't help us, or they've tried talk therapy and there's been a limit to how much help that it can do.
I think that it's also been not very affordable and the system to get a therapist can be very difficult and very trying, and so if it's not something that you're hearing a lot of, if you're not seeing a lot of or you haven't had a great experience with it, remains in that taboo and difficult to talk about space. I also think that there's.
You know we have lots of confidentiality, ethical guidelines in therapy, which is really important, but it's also, I think, added to the perception that it's taboo and secretive and we have a lot of secrets surrounding it, although once you get inside of the therapeutic world, it's not that case and if you have the right fit of a therapist, it isn't that case, but I just think it feels that it's in a different world, it's not as accessible, and that keeps it there.
Yeah, and for someone who's been doing this for over 20 years. Like you said, you've been doing all this research as a therapist and someone who's really been holding space for clients and patients and serving the community. You go a little further because, as I mentioned earlier, it's not just about menopause and perimenopause.
You are getting into deeper topics like intimacy and relationships and sexuality menopause you are getting into deeper topics like intimacy and relationships and sexuality. You even have a book coming out which is called A New Position on Sex, which I love to play on words, but that seems even more taboo, you know, because now we're really talking about the intimacy that happens behind closed doors, you know.
So what was your reason for wanting to go there as a therapist, into the world of authoring a book?
So I'm not really sure what made me feel again comfortable in the sexuality space. In some ways I'm a pretty unlikely person, except for when I look back on my personal life. I was just always curious and I had this one story of my one class in sex ed in seventh grade that I was so excited about and I asked a question. Like we were able to all write down an anonymous question and I was so excited about my question to be answered. It was wonderful.
And I have this thing if I'm caught off guard, my face turns red. So I didn't want that to happen, because then everyone would know what my question was and I, so I put this little fold differently and when it came to my question, my the teacher looked at it and said, oh God, it's inappropriate, and she threw it out. And even though no one knew it was mine and no one knew what the question was, I felt this horrible shame.
And and the question was what's the deal with vaginal discharge, which I think is so cute that my seventh grade self wanted to know what that was, and and so bizarre that that was considered inappropriate? And although I can't say that, that's when I thought, oh, I'm going to change that in the world. I do think that's where it began, and I think it began like there's nothing wrong with asking questions and it took a long time to figure out what the deal with discharge was.
So that wasn't, that wasn't a great thing. So fast forward to later in life. I I had a lot of years of education as a therapist and I only had one elective class on sexuality and when I was in that class I was just, I loved it. I was so excited for every lecture and my classmates, who I loved so dearly, they were bored in it and my professor took me aside and she's like every once in a while, someone like you comes along.
You need to go into sexuality Like you, you're, you're known for that Like you could. Just, you can just tell you have a comfort level and uh and so so I started studying it and and I realized I started first with college women that women were really, really hungry to talk about who they were as sexual beings and to figure out who they were.
And then, when I opened up to other genders, I realized that, um, men were like women were hungry and men were desperate that there was even less of a sacred and safe space to figure out who they were as sexual beings, and I wanted to change that. And then, of course, I extended it to all genders and I learned so much.
I've gathered thousands and thousands of stories and listened to so many people talk about who they are and their questions stories and listen to so so many people talk about who they are and their questions, and for me, what I wanted is I I really wanted to like the premise of the book, and what I've done for 20 years is I want to normalize that sexuality is is the essence of who you are, and the phrase that I say a lot is it's the final frontier of self-development.
So if you want to know who you are, know who you are as a sexual being, and if you know who you are as a sexual being, then you know who you are. And that statement sometimes feels very strong and feels like it is too much, like we're going too far with this, but it's because we're not given the right information about what sexuality is, and once you understand it H, then you understand why it's the expression and the pathway to the essence of you.
Yeah, love that. And I think about so many times when I was younger and really was inquisitive myself and curious and asking questions, and I feel like the only thing we had to compare it to or had as a guide was a Judy Blume novel or you know. Are you there, god, it's me. Margaret seemed to be where we would go. In fact, I remember when I saw the movie I was like, oh my God, I'm totally Margaret, I'm like that's me, you know all the questions, everything.
And I'm like that was the eighties and who knows what it was like in the 70s and the 60s and every generation before. We just didn't talk about it. We were in closed circles. Yet you go back to like biblical times. It was like women in the red tent. It was open, talking about things. So we got away from it being normal, right, and we got away from it and it's taboo and you don't talk about it.
And here we are starting to talk about it again, not just in women's circles, because, like you said, it's all sexes, but being comfortable being who we are as sexual human beings, right. So going there is so important and this book is going to be just one of many companions that I imagine people can have, that they can go to and find that they're not alone in the battle and even calling it a battle kind of scenes. You know, not alone in just being human.
Right and it's. I think battle can feel accurate. Uh, and a lot of ways it's. It's. It's a fight with figuring out who you are and kind of sifting through all of the negative messaging that we're given and lack of information.
And then I think it can feel like it's very foreign to have agency just in general, and to be able to have the space and have relationships and have a culture that wants you to learn who you are and then learn how to live the terms of who you are, which is how I ultimately define agency. And you put that skill set within the context of sexuality.
You have to work hard to get to that place and that's one of the reasons why I say it's if you want to know who you are, know who you are as a sexual being, because it's a very difficult place to reside and we're not given a lot of safe spaces in which to do so. So how?
does someone who is very uncomfortable with this and this topic really understand? How can they do that if there's not a comfortable feeling in getting to know your sexuality?
So the first thing is to release your first thoughts as to what I'm talking about. So every stereotypical thing that you would think of that I'm going to be talking about, sexuality, you release yourself from, and the first thing I like to do so. I have nine pillars of holistic sexuality that I've come up with based on a 1981 version of it that is outdated, and the first one is sensuality. So my story is, and so the second thing is so release yourself from the stereotypes.
And the second thing is listen to other people's stories. Sometimes, where you learn you aren't is a great way to learn where you are, and don't be afraid of the differences. And then sometimes hearing your story or something new can be an entry point. So I always look in sexuality, look for your guardrails and then look for your entry ramps into it, and so see if the story I'm about to share feels like a guardrail or an entry ramp to you.
So when I started thinking about sensuality as a part of sexuality a lot of times they're interchanged, but they're different Sensuality is truly just the how you relate to five senses, and not everyone has access to all five senses and not everyone has the same access to the five senses, but once you start figuring out your relationship with all five senses, it makes a very big difference in two things.
One is it creates a mind-body awareness, and that is a really key part as a underpinning for who you are as a sexual being is having mind-body awareness. The second thing is is that we all have relationships of yeses and nos to our senses, things that are like oh, that's a yes, that's a yes, that's a yuck, that's a no for me.
And when you become brave enough to say this is a yes, this is a no for me, and are listening to how your body says that, it begins a skill set of agency that you grow into other places. And I haven't even talked about sex acts here. I have been talking about sensuality this whole time, and that's usually the part that people are most afraid of or feel most comfortable, as they think I'm gonna go straight to sex acts, what you're doing with your body and with whom you're doing it.
And I was like, no, no, no, that takes a while for us to get to that. Now we're talking about other things first, and sensuality being one of them, and I love this story. So when I started hearing about sensuality, I thought, oh well, that is for a woman who is in Bali and she has long flowy hair and she wears long flowy skirts and she talks like this and she has this. And I was like and that is not me, that's not how I look, that's not how I talk. I mean, I could put that on.
My hair is actually naturally curly. But I was like but that's not me. So I'm not a sensual person, because I was equating a very narrow place of what sensuality meant in sexuality. I also used to act and I was in an acting class and we went around the class and the coach asked us what would be the most scary scene that she could ask us to do. And I was the second person to go. I was like, oh, having to seduce somebody.
And the next person went and said, like it kind of looked at me like what, and they're like murdering a child. And then the next person was like incest and it was like all these huge things. And I was the outlier, like why in the world would I have picked seduction as the worst thing for me to do? And so I knew I was like, oh shit, I'm going to have to do this now. So she's like Juliana, go over and seduce Price, and I couldn't. I mean I was awful and I couldn't.
I mean I was awful and I did no idea how to do it. And I was 30 at the time doing this and had already been married and had a child. I had, in a lot of ways, thought I knew who I was as a sexual being. But what I discovered in that even though it's in the context of acting was that who I was as a sexual being was performative and I didn't know how to get into the authentic part of who I was as a as a sexual being was performative and I didn't know how to get into the authentic part of who I was.
And so when she came to me, she's like you gotta fix that, like just go ahead and fix it. And when, when I sat that with that, with that statement of you have to fix it, I was thinking what is the it that I'm trying to fix? I knew there was something wrong, but I didn't understand what the combination of that was. So bringing that story to the story of what a sensual being is.
I started wanting to know who I was and I wanted to know who am I for who I am, not as performing for anybody else, not trying to be the right kind of anything. And I went back to that image of who I went to immediately as a sensual woman, like the right kind of sensual woman, and I thought, okay, good for her, I love her, have friends just like that and they are very wonderful in their own right. And I thought so what's Juliana's brand of sensual?
And I went on a mission and I went into lots of yucks and yums. I went through all five of my senses and I let myself have the permission to be like no, yes, I don't know, maybe if I did this and I just kept doing it, it was a very brave endeavor. It was not an easy thing to do. I did it by myself and then I learned to do it with other people and I started teaching people how to do that and I realized, oh, there's something to this, because it is something we all have in common.
We all have our senses. It's not this huge lift. I'm not trying to talk to you about this one sex act. I'm trying to say what does your body do when it loves something, and what does your body do when it doesn't? And it gets to be very different. So that's the beginning.
That is so interesting and the fact that we are talking about learning about it in acting class. That's my background as well, and I feel like I truly learned more about body awareness in acting class, and some of it was scary. What a really interesting story, and I love that. That's what you share so openly, so thank you for being vulnerable with that. I do want to mention the book real quick. It's coming out when, juliana, when is it coming? September 23rd, yeah, so I mean you got time.
Are you going to do pre-order on it?
Yes, yeah, we'll be doing lots of like starting it out and telling people about it too. Yeah.
Well, let's just mention that real quick. I'm going to mention the name of the book. I know there's a lot of stuff that you're doing, but since we've been talking around the book, it's called A New Position on Sex A Guide to Greater Sexual Confidence, pleasure and Authenticity, coming out in September of 2025. And this is a really I mean I, I I read a lot and I have a lot of people on the show that have books that I love reading fellow authors books.
This is one that might hit people a little differently, you know, even if you have like one takeaway from it. Right, are you sharing client stories in the book?
Yeah, so I share the problem of like why I think we have to prioritize. I don't think sexuality should be a luxury, it should be a necessity. And then I get into the nine pillars and in the nine pillars I teach you what they are, and then I tell personal stories. I tell client stories with their permission and changing things, and then I give sexercises and then I end it with prompts to ask yourself with it.
And then I've added a QR code at the end of each of the pillars so that you can hear other people telling their story, because the book is actually based on a course that I've been doing for about 20 years. And part of the course is we go through these pillars and you write stories. So you write a story of celebration, a story of healing, after we've gone through the content and shared it.
And I think it's very powerful to hear other people's stories, because when people risk take and a lot of times we do this in a group all it takes is one person to say the hard thing and then other people feel like they can say it as well. And so I wanted I went first and I did this kind of one-sided vulnerability which is really difficult to do. I had to, really I wanted I went first and I did this kind of one-sided vulnerability which is really difficult to do. I had to really sit down.
I had a, I had a running document as I was writing it, kind of the book of all the stories I was sharing about myself, and thought, okay, so this is what people who don't know me are going to know about me without us being in a relationship, and I was like, am I okay with this? And some days I was like absolutely. Other days I was like, what are you doing? And I was like, oh, my poor children are going to read this. I was like my mom's going to be the first one to read this.
And then I thought people don't have to earn my vulnerability with this subject matter right now and and I need to go first so that other people will have the bravery. And then I also thought it'd be helpful for them to hear, because, as much as I tried to be as inclusive and diverse in the stories and the perspectives, I can't capture everything, but I can do more, and I also think it's really powerful to hear it.
So I'm very excited to see how people interact with the QR code in the book, and we'll see if people go from the chapter to listen to the audio messages from those who have already done the questions.
That's a great idea. So the QR code will take people to personal journeys, personal stories of those who have worked with you, have worked with the nine pillars and, like you said, it reminds us that we're not alone. You know, everybody's story is different in their own right, but when we come down to it, we're all just walking each other home in some way or another.
Right, yeah, that's beautifully said. I love that. I did not make that up.
That's not my those are not my words Right. I love using that. I think it actually comes from Ram Dass, the great spiritual leader, who I think originally came from Rumi. So it goes way back. I love using that. I think it actually comes from Ram Dass, the great spiritual leader, who I think originally came from Rumi. So it goes way back.
I do want to credit, but I do use it because it really is a reminder that we're never, on this journey, walking alone and we're all walking towards something greater, higher knowledge, we, an existential, whatever it might be for each person. But when we realize that we're not in it alone, it makes it a little easier, doesn't it? It does, it does.
I want to touch on something that you just said and I was going to bring it up, but you just actually mentioned it, and that is how are the kids, as a mom, or even our parents in the role, able to see Dr Julietta Hauser as the sexual therapist you know, talking about sensuality, sexuality? How is it for your kids to be like, yeah, my mom's a sex therapist?
It has changed through the years. My son used to be asked this or like if I do interviews, they would ask him for a quote, and I think one of my favorite answers that he gave was a senior year in high school. He's 26 now and when he was asked that he said you know, what I learned from my mom was not just how to treat somebody that was going to be in my life.
He said my mom has taught me how I deserve to be treated and it was in direct relation to be asked about the sex therapy stuff and I I'm not even sure I did a great job in teaching him directly about sexuality. There's a part of me that was like did I, did we have those talks? God, I hope I did. Like, I hope I practiced what I preached.
I mean, you know, he was my first kid, I didn't know what I was doing in a lot of ways, and we've had those talks now too, and I would say now I mean he's older, so he has a different come from is he feels protective of me, um, but he also feels um, well positioned to not be afraid to have those conversations with me or with partners, with me or with partners and and that that makes me feel really good, that he, he, we have removed the taboo-ness and um, and I feel I feel really good about that.
I think that making there be space for us to have conversations like there's not just one sex dog, like having a multitude of those and and, frankly, the older it gets it almost feels the more important and there's even more at stake. My daughter is mortified and she's 11.
Well, that makes sense.
Yes, yeah, and she's, she's, she's just the most precious thing and and she doesn't want to talk about any of that. We went, we went for for a. We did these barefoot walks around my neighborhood and I started talking about it and she could just tell I was about to go there and she's like, oh, don't, don't do it.
And I was like, well, you know, I really want us to be able to have this conversation, and so my son was a lot, he wanted to hear it all, and my daughter isn't there yet, but what I have seen in her and again. So if we're having agency, everyone gets to have their own relationship with the subject matter. I'm not going to push my way onto her either. What I have said to her is I want us to be, I want us to both practice so that we're both comfortable in having these conversations.
And I've said to her I'm just as nervous about having these conversations as you are and I want to be. I want to be the best mom I can be for you when you have something where I need to show up as my best self, and if I don't practice with you ahead of time, I may not. And that helped her to to get a little, a little bit more open with it and she had a friend over sometime this year and they had their.
They both had the same it was an American girl book about their bodies and they had sticky notes and they had highlighter pens and I was like, okay, so her way to get information is is independent study, and and then my job for that is is to be someone who asks questions. And let you know she can ask questions too, whereas my son was not going to read a book, he just wanted to absorb it as we went.
And I feel like that's a metaphor for how we all need to be and we all need to be gracious with how we are. There's so much about sexuality that has a right and wrongness to it. If you feel uncomfortable about the subject matter, then you're not wrong in that. That doesn't make you wrong and not a sexual being or wonderful or beautiful. It just means you're not comfortable and I don't think there is a level of comfort that makes it the right level.
I just ask people to give sacredness to the space in whatever way feels right for them.
It reminds me a lot of Esther Perel's books Mating and Captivity and State of Affairs, and I remember how and I know you know those books. But I mean she's just such an amazing relationship therapist and the whole idea of it's not wrong if two people are on the same page and having the conversation and it's really not wrong if they're on different pages either. But it's like you really have to meet people where they're at. And I know agency is something you talk about a lot.
You actually did a TED talk on it, a TEDx talk on it, and if we could just be more like that, I think conversations would be more welcoming and there'd be more compassion and empathy. If we just realize it's really not only about what we think, but meet people where they are so that there's a comfort and, like you said, safety. Safety is always the most important thing. I'm totally hearing your daughter going. Mom, please, stop. I'm pretty sure I did that too.
I'm pretty sure.
I was like ew pretty sure love's like ew right, yes, that's so great. So do you want to mention what the nine pillars?
are. Is that kind of a surprise that you oh no, it's not a surprise tell me like briefly, just what are the nine pillars that that you go through? so it starts with sensuality, which is the relationship of the five senses, uh, and then we talk about um, health, like wellness and fertility. So it's, it is your overall sexual wellness, and then it's your whole fertility journey.
So, from the beginning of puberty, all the way through, like your, your death of like, what is, what is your hormonal journey, and lots of things that follow within those two things. Then next is pleasure, and then we move to desire. Then it is the thing that a lot of people think about, which is sex acts, acts and interest, and then intersecting identity. So intersecting identities is it is a pillar, but it's also threaded throughout each one.
So this is the who are you and how does that intersect with this topic of sexuality. But I wait to get to that until we're further into like, until we're past you know the sex acts, because it's such an important part of knowing who you are that I like people to have the practice of the method of which I go through each, each of them before we do it.
And then we go back and you put your intersecting identities into sensuality and and what your, what your experiences were in the wellness space and so forth. Then we move into power and trauma, and then it's relationships and connection, and then in the hub of it all is agency.
Love it Great, and you've been practicing this for years, using this with your patients in your own practice, and now those who are not able to work with you privately will have this beautiful book that can offer that. But you also have courses as well. You speak a lot as well, so there's always a way to get in touch with Dr Juliana Hauser. I'm gonna be putting all that information in the notes of this podcast episode.
If this episode, you know, touch, moves and inspires you in any way, consider downloading it, writing a little review, paying it forward to somebody that you might think would really benefit from this. Maybe it's a mom trying to have a tough conversation with their daughter, maybe it is a friend that just hasn't figured out how to really have these conversations, even with their partner or even themselves.
So there's always a place that this conversation really could benefit somebody and I hope that it is touch, moving and inspiring you. So, moving into one area that I love to do with this show, I do a little thing called rapid fire. I call it the brain candy game, and basically what I've been doing during our time together is I'm writing down words that Juliana has been saying. What I would love for you to do is just come back with the first word that comes to mind, little word association.
So are you ready?
All right, let's do some brain candy. Here we go. Taboo Off limits.
Sexuality Necessity.
Sexercise Sexuality Necessity. Sexercise Love that.
So fun.
Permission.
Self-guided.
Senses Gorgeous Menopause.
Complicated.
Stories.
The meaning of it all.
Motherhood.
Joy.
And I don't know if I said this word. I can't remember if I said this one or the other one sexuality- I said necessity and okay. So then sensuality.
I can't even read my own handwriting, yeah and I answered gorgeous, but I think the answer I would say now is is yummy, oh, yummy, okay, we're gonna stop right there.
Well, that's the thing. Like you could be thinking one thing 30 seconds prior and then do it again, and once in a while I repeat a word because I can't read my handwriting. But that's basically where brain candy is. Our brain is constantly like do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
So I love that I was thinking about. The first one you asked me was taboo and I said off limits. And that's so interesting that I said that, because it's the opposite For me. I'm often like, oh, that's taboo, that I'm even more interested in it. So, yeah, that's great, a great exercise, yeah. And I'm wondering like taboo for you.
When I think about going back to the little girl that asked the question, is it curiosity? Right, you know true, yeah, but like when you're put on the spot with stuff once in a while, like the word you're like oh, I wish I said that you know Right. But yeah it is a fun game. I've been doing brain candy for a while. It is a lot of fun and it's fun to see what guests say when they've been the ones that have been saying these words.
Yeah, that's great, that's brilliant yeah.
Awesome, I'm so glad you enjoyed it. All right, so what I would love to do is just ask you is there anything that you would love to share with HIListically speaking listeners, or even those that are watching on YouTube? How would you like to leave this conversation with them?
I'd love to go back back to the start of how we met, and you know what I I guess a background is.
I think I think we shared something really special at that event and it was really exciting to be at Yale, to be at the School of Medicine, to be around women who were saying mental health and women matter together, and to be able to have to be around other experts that were caring about those topics, because they're not spoke before you and I stayed wanting to see your talk and wanted to even interact through it and I loved the way that you were presenting your work.
And I would say, in my work, in the many topics of mental health or menopause or the other parts that could be considered taboo, what I found is women are so powerful when you work together and I think our ability to connect with one another is what helps our longevity and we've shown that. I think that we're really good at connecting and creating those networks for ourselves and that we do think that's one of the reasons why women are living longer.
I would love for the younger generations for that to be the main skill set of how do we work together and how do we work together and have differences and how do we work it together and have differences, like with my work in agency. One of the things that I found is being empowered is a lot of where we're taught to stay as women like let's be empowered on this topic, and I absolutely believe in being empowered. You have to know what your voices are.
But what I've learned about agency is that there's a difference between agency and empowerment, and empowerment is is individually focused, but agency is relational and I think when women get this right, when women get the relational aspect of agency in a place of having their voice, so when we can all find our own voices and all know what our yeses and nos in all areas next to another woman who has a different yes and no and a different sets of voice and what they're needing, that power is absolutely unstoppable and I encourage all of us to practice agency.
So I'm going to ask you one more question. We're not doing the game anymore, but what would your comeback word be for agency?
Life-changing.
Yeah, it is life-changing, it really is.
I mean you just saying that and then coming back with life-changing, I'm sitting here and I felt it right here because I'm thinking it truly is like who am I, how am I showing up in the world, what do I want to be on my epitaph or how people remember me, but less about what people remember me for and what I can do while I'm here in the time between the bookends, you know, yeah, it's really about that and connecting with others, where we're really part of a collective we really are, you know, so beautiful?
I love that, juliana, thank you so much, and we're going to share everything about you. I'm going to put it in the podcast notes about the book, a new position on sex, your, your courses. Any way for people to get in touch with you is going to be available, because I have a feeling we'll be sharing some more stages together. I have a feeling we'll be sharing some more stages together.
I have a feeling I would love that. That would be great, right?
Yes, love that you find your people and you want to stick with them and see how we can make a change in this world and help people to find ways to find their own agency and make changes in their own lives Great. Thanks so much.
Oh, thank you so much too. It was just a joy to speak with you.
You too. All right, my friends, if you are looking to get in touch with Dr Juliana Hauser, you have come to the right place. I'm going to share everything that you need to connect with her, whether it is learning more about her upcoming book, her courses, or even just connecting with her on social media. Everything will be in the notes of this podcast episode. And we talked a little bit about Havening techniques.
You know it is my jam and I love to share all about the neuroscience and the benefits of touch. I'm going to share more with you about upcoming Havening happy hours. You know they're monthly, they are free, they're online You're absolutely welcome. Or, if you're interested in bringing Havening into the work that you do, or even in your personal life, my upcoming trainings to get certified as a practitioner.
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A lot is about agency, about really getting in touch with who you are and really loving yourself, cause that's where it really comes back to right. You're not in this alone. We're in this together and know that I love you, I believe in you and I'm sending hugs your way. Be well.