How Scary Is AI? Let’s Ask Calvin Abbasi! | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Jul 18, 2025•29 min
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Episode description
Rachel and Van are joined by Calvin Abbasi, strategic advisor to the OpenAI Nonprofit Commission, to talk about perceptions of AI, the dangers of it, and real questions that need to be asked about this developing technology.
00:00 - Welcome!
02:11 - AI and Self-Preservation
07:40 - Is AI Dangerous?
09:10 - The Grok Situation
14:18 - The Architect Determines the AI
17:14 - Thoughts on Sam Altman
19:53 - DeepSeek’s Effect on the AI Industry
Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Guest: Calvin Abbasi
Producers: Donnie Beacham and Ashleigh Smith
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