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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.
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Episodes

Bad Bunny’s Halftime, Trump’s Racist Post, and Activism in Sports With Jemele Hill

Van and Rachel talk about Bad Bunny’s halftime performance and the TPUSA “patriotic” alternative, before reacting to Donald Trump’s racist post of the Obamas and an odd detail in the Epstein files. Then, journalist and podcaster Jemele Hill joins to talk activism and gambling in sports. (0:00) Intro (5:24) Bad Bunny’s halftime show (19:09) Jake Paul and Puerto Rico (26:39) TPUSA’s halftime show (33:30) Trump’s racist post (49:26) Epstein typo or clue? (59:49) Jemele Hill joins the show Hosts: Va...

Feb 10, 20262 hr 5 min

Chris Harrison: The Return of Traditional Love, Epstein Update, and ICE at the Polls

Van and Rachel kick off the pod with a Shaboozey conversation before reacting to the latest ‘Michael’ trailer. Then they have a discussion on the latest Epstein release, the funding of ICE, and the Texas Senate race, which is turning ugly. And finally, Rachel reacts to the return of Chris Harrison. (0:00) Intro (10:06) Shaboozey apology (20:27) ‘Michael’ trailer reaction (26:27) Epstein files update (43:45 ) ICE reform (58:59) Race and the Texas Senate race (1:18:57) Chris Harrison’s new dating ...

Feb 06, 20261 hr 56 min

Don Lemon’s Arrest and ‘Melania’ a Box Office Hit? Plus, Howard Bryant on the Erasure of Paul Robeson

Van and Rachel react to the Grammys before discussing the arrests of journalists who were covering the protests in Minnesota and former Trump supporters Harvey Levin and Andrew Schulz speaking against the president. Then, the host of The Town, Matt Belloni, sheds light on the box office performance of ‘Melania’ before author Howard Bryant joins to discuss his latest book, 'Kings and Pawns: Jackie Robinson and Paul Robeson in America.' (0:00) Intro (3:49) 2026 Grammys (16:14) Journalists arrested...

Feb 03, 20262 hr 9 min

Melania the "Trophy Wife," Nicki’s MAGA Turn, and Black Prestige Media With Ashley Allison

Van and Rachel discuss the documentary ‘Melania’ before reacting to Nicki Minaj’s appearance at a Trump event and the congressional fight over DHS. Plus, Ashley Allison, owner of The Root, joins to discuss the importance of Black media. (0:00) Black Panther Party (14:53) The ‘Melania’ movie (27:47) Nicki Minaj and Trump (52:26) Congress's fight over DHS (1:18:27) Ashley Allison joins the show (2:10:16) Ray J’s health Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Ashley Allison Producers: Donnie Be...

Jan 30, 20262 hr 20 min

Ye’s Apology, Latest Death in Minneapolis, and Aldis Hodge and Ben Watkins on ‘Cross’

Van and Rachel react to Kanye’s apology in The Wall Street Journal, before discussing the violence in Minnesota. Plus, actor Aldis Hodge and showrunner Ben Watkins join to get us set for Season 2 of Amazon Prime Video’s ‘Cross.’ (0:00) Intro (0:24) Kanye’s apology (29:16) Another shooting in Minneapolis (59:09) Texas Senate debate (1:02:51) Chris Broussard’s bad tweet (1:05:23) Aldis Hodge and Ben Watkins on Season 2 of ‘Cross’ Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Aldis Hodge and Ben Watk...

Jan 27, 20261 hr 55 min

Michelle Appears on Call Her Daddy, Rachel’s Freedom, and Keith Edwards on Critiquing Crockett

Van and Rachel react to the Oscar nominations before discussing Rachel’s newfound freedom and Michelle Obama’s appearance on Call Her Daddy. Then, there’s drama between LeBron and the Lakers, and media personality Keith Edwards joins to break down his coverage of the Texas Senate race. (0:00) Intro (2:18) Oscar nominations (14:14) Rachel’s IG post (20:41) Michelle Obama on Call Her Daddy (39:05) Lakers drama (49:34) Taylor Swift calls Justin Baldoni a “bitch” (59:35) Keith Edwards on Jasmine Cro...

Jan 23, 20262 hr 8 min

Feeling for Josh Allen, Stephen A. and the Bruhs, Plus Charlie Kirk the Time Traveler

Van and Rachel react to a weekend of sports before discussing Stephen A. Smith and frat life, the Black Panther Party in 2026, and military aid in Israel. Plus, Gavin Newsom caves to Ben Shapiro, and Candace Owens has a theory … a conspiracy theory. (0:00) Intro (0:58) Sisqo or Ne-Yo (9:01) Feeling for Josh Allen (24:21) Stephen A. Smith misspeaks (44:20) A Divine 9 discussion (57:50) The Black Panther Party in 2026 (1:11:20) AIPAC and congressional funding (1:36:07) Gavin Newsom sits with Ben S...

Jan 20, 20262 hr 18 min

Kanye West Will Return, Druski and the Megachurch, and the Iranian Conflict

Van and Rachel discuss Teyana Taylor’s comments on Ye, Kai Cenat’s career shift, and Druski’s megachurch skit. Then an update on the conflicts with ICE agents before associate professor Hussein Banai joins to help shed light on the conflict in Iran. (0:00) Intro (15:44) Teyana Taylor and Kanye West (31:17) Kai Cenat’s new path (42:39) Druski’s megachurch skit (1:00:14) J. Cole’s upcoming album (1:02:17) The war with ICE (1:19:00) Hussein “Huss” Banai on the Iranian conflict Hosts: Van Lathan and...

Jan 16, 20262 hr 24 min

‘Sinners,’ Jasmine Crockett, and the Black Panthers

Van and Rachel kick the show off with some awards season reactions, check in on the situation in Minnesota, and react to some criticism of Representative Jasmine Crockett. (0:00) NAACP Image Awards nominations (5:47) Awards season reactions (38:28) Kristy and Desmond Scott’s divorce (53:13) Minneapolis update (1:10:08) The Black Panthers and knowing your rights (1:24:04) Bowen Yang, Matt Rogers, and criticisms of Representative Crockett (2:08:23) Steve Nash and capitalism Hosts: Van Lathan and R...

Jan 13, 20262 hr 23 min

Minneapolis ICE Shooting, Chris Redd Gets Candid, and the Penis Lawsuit

Van and Rachel discuss how House Democrats commemorated the five-year anniversary of the J6 riots before reacting to the ICE shooting in Minneapolis. Then, Spencer Pratt is running for mayor of L.A., former NFL player Matt Kalil is suing for talk about his penis size, and comedian Chris Redd gets candid on Instagram. (0:00) Intro (2:59) Van addresses the response to the last episode (15:37) Democrats mark five years since the J6 attack (28:53) ICE shooting in Minneapolis (55:43) Spencer Pratt’s ...

Jan 09, 20261 hr 55 min

The Venezuela Takeover. Plus, a Conversation About Adin Ross, Doechii, and Black Men.

Van and Rachel kick off the New Year with a look at the drop in U.S. crime and Pastor Jamal Bryant’s defense of his wife’s dress before they welcome back 'Breaking Points’ host Ryan Grim to help break down Trump’s actions against Venezuela. Plus, a look at a pair of prominent lawsuits before a discussion of Adin Ross, Doechii, and Glasses Malone, the latter of whom came to the defense of the star rapper. (0:00) Intro (3:50) Van’s dreams (14:44) U.S. crime rates are falling (34:21) Pastor Jamal B...

Jan 06, 20262 hr 41 min

Do the Epstein Files Matter? Is Rachel an Auntie? Plus, Interracial Relationships and a New Diddy Doc

Van and Rachel close out 2025 with a bang! Thanks for listening and watching this year and keep doing so in the next. See ya’ll in 2026. (0:00) Intro (12:01) Van Lathan: King of Threads (15:59) Auntie or nah? (20:03) ‘Stranger Things’ (32:49) Chappelle backlash (1:00:26) Nigeria strikes (1:08:02) Epstein update (1:21:57) Dr. Umar on Venus and Serena (1:55:13) New Diddy documentary (2:08:00) Russian ‘Bad Girls Club’ (2:14:40) Top moments of 2025 Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Don...

Dec 30, 20252 hr 21 min

Dr. Ilyasah Shabazz and the Legacy of Malcolm X

Van and Rachel welcome author, activist, and daughter of Malcolm X, Dr. Ilyasah Shabazz, to discuss her father’s autobiography, 60 years after its first publication. Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 26, 202525 min

Jeffrey Epstein, Nicki Minaj, and the Streets

Van and Rachel react to the latest Epstein file dump, Nicki Minaj’s “surprise” appearance at a Turning Point USA conference, and Dave Chappelle’s latest Netflix special. Plus, a breakdown of the “f--k the streets” controversy and the Jake Paul–Anthony Joshua fight. (0:00) Intro (7:54) Jeffrey Epstein file dump (39:31) Nicki Minaj at TPUSA (1:02:06) Dave Chappelle’s 'The Unstoppable' (1:21:59) “F--k the streets” (1:40:52) Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua (1:58:00) Timothée Chalamet’s rap video Hosts:...

Dec 23, 20252 hr 12 min

Epstein Distractions, Dr. Umar vs. 50 Cent, and Van’s N-Word Game

Van and Rachel discuss the dysfunction in the FBI and the Trump administration as a whole in the lead-up to the release of more Epstein files. Plus, Keith Edwards sparks debate on criticisms of candidates. Then, Dr. Umar weighs in on the Netflix Diddy documentary, and Van introduces a new game. (0:00) Intro (3:48) Dysfunction in the FBI (29:57) Epstein distractions (39:32) Vivek Ramaswamy and the American dream (47:03) Keith Edwards and Jasmine Crockett (1:23:52) Dr. Umar vs. 50 Cent (1:38:47) V...

Dec 19, 20252 hr 10 min

The Reiner Family Tragedy, Mass Shootings, and an Uncle Nearest Apology Rating

Van and Rachel react to a weekend filled with difficult news, from the killing of Rob Reiner and his wife, Michele Singer Reiner, to the mass shootings at Brown University and a Hanukkah event in Australia. Then, the return of Philip Rivers resurrects discussions about Colin Kaepernick, the cofounder of Uncle Nearest apologizes, and Atlanta tops an OnlyFans list. (0:33) Reiner family tragedy (8:59) Trump’s response (22:16) Brown University shooting (42:49) Bondi Beach shooting (1:00:04) Philip R...

Dec 16, 20251 hr 59 min

Jasmine Crockett vs. James Talarico, Sherrone Moore Arrested, and Rachel Dating Drug Dealers

Van and Rachel discuss Representative Jasmine Crockett, who's entered the Senate race in Texas, and the rejection of health-care subsidies by the Senate. Then they react to the drama out of the University of Michigan. Plus, reporter Marc Caputo joins to shed light on Trump’s actions against Venezuela and political change in Miami. Finally, they talk about ‘Sinners’ erasure on end of the year lists. (0:00) Intro (9:30) Jasmine Crockett vs. James Talarico (43:33) Affordable Care Act subsidies expi...

Dec 12, 20252 hr 20 min

L.A. Hip-Hop Culture With Nana, and Sydney Sweeney Speaks

Van and Rachel welcome rapper Nana to talk hip-hop culture in Los Angeles before they react to Sydney Sweeney’s comments on her infamous jean ad campaign. Then a boxing-style scoring of the best back-and-forths between Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman. (0:00) Intro (11:41) Jason Derulo on working with women (23:15) Nana joins the show (53:04) Sydney Sweeney on the “great jeans” ad (1:01:33) Stephen A. Smith vs. Max Kellerman Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. an...

Dec 09, 20251 hr 44 min

Talking Reparations and “Black Boy Tragic” With Governor Wes Moore! Plus, the Diddy Documentary and BD Wong’s Apology Rating. | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Rachel and Van start the show by talking about podcasters like Joe Rogan and his possible intentions with those he interviews. Then, they discuss Governor Josh Shapiro’s opinions on Kamala Harris’s book and react to both the new four-part Netflix documentary on Diddy and the response to it from Diddy’s team. Rachel also gives an apology rating to BD Wong. Later, they are joined by Governor Wes Moore to talk about reparations, child poverty, and direct conversations with Trump. 00:00 - Welcome! 0...

Dec 05, 20252 hr 5 min

Pete Hegseth’s Investigation, and the Danish Deception

Van and Rachel are back from break to weigh in on the investigation of boat strikes, a TikTok relationship scam, and financial literacy in the NFL. Plus, Stephen A. Smith’s talking politics, tech bros are freestyling, and inmates are dancing with their daughters. (0:00) Intro (13:53) Boat strike investigations (31:19) Defining ‘remigration’ (41:46) The Danish Deception (1:04:33) Odell Beckham Jr. and financial literacy (1:17:21) An HBCU/Divine 9 debate (1:33:18) Stephen A. Smith and politics (1:...

Dec 02, 20252 hr 10 min

Trump Hearts Mamdani, MAGA Bots Exposed, and the Summer Walker Drama Explained

Van and Rachel check in on the state of politics and culture before taking a quick Thanksgiving break! (0:00) Intro (12:58) Mamdani’s meeting with Trump (42:10) No primary challenge for Representative Hakeem Jeffries (59:53) The erotic poetry of RFK Jr. (1:16:14) A new game: Where in the world is MAGA? (1:24:58) Klay Thompson vs. Ja Morant (1:33:38) Summer Walker relationship drama Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Video Supervision: Chris Thom...

Nov 25, 20252 hr 4 min

Senator Brian Schatz On Trying to Comprehend MAGA. Plus, Men’s Views on the WNBA With Angel McCoughtry! | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Rachel and Van start the show by discussing Pharrell Williams's intention behind his comments from the last episode. They are then joined by U.S. Senator Brian Schatz from Hawaii to break down his X post about converting MAGA supporters. Last, they are joined by WNBA legend, musician, and honorary member of Zeta Phi Beta, Angel McCoughtry, to talk about how men treat and talk about the WNBA. 00:00 - Welcome! 00:54 - Pharrell Clarifies 28:20 - Trump Berates Bloomberg News Reporter 37:54 - Sen. Br...

Nov 21, 20251 hr 43 min

MAGA Regrets, Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Apology, and Pharrell’s Philosophy

Van and Rachel react to fractures in the MAGA movement, give a rating for Marjorie Taylor Greene’s apology, and get into the Epstein brothers' correspondence about Trump “blowing Bubba.” Plus, Michelle Obama talks about America’s readiness for a woman president, Pharrell shares his dislike of politics, and Eric Adams goes to Israel. (0:00) Black women in pop and hip-hop (19:16) MAGA regrets (45:23) Marjorie Taylor Greene’s apology (50:55) Trump and Bubba (56:15) Michelle Obama on a woman preside...

Nov 18, 20251 hr 51 min

Is the Shutdown Really Over? Plus, More Epstein Files Leak, and the State of the GOP With Emma Vigeland! | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Rachel and Van start the show by reacting to the Epstein emails released by both Democrats and Republicans. Then, they are joined by former reporter for the Young Turks and current co-host of the Majority Report, Emma Vigeland, to talk about the Epstein files, the state of the GOP, and the characteristics of useful disagreements between progressives. Later, they talk about the response toward Donald Trump’s appearance on the Pat McAfee Show for Veterans Day, and Rachel gives an apology rating to...

Nov 14, 20252 hr 34 min

The End of the Shutdown With Representative Summer Lee. Plus, Reactions to the ‘Michael’ Trailer

Van and Rachel discuss the agreement to end the government shutdown before welcoming Representative Summer Lee to give her perspective as a congresswoman. Then Van gives his take on the controversy surrounding James Talarico’s social media habits, and a Michael Jackson impersonator responds to the trailer for the biopic ‘Michael.’ 00:00 Intro (6:13) Government shutdown ends (31:00) Representative Summer Lee joins the show (1:23:13) James Talarico follows adult film stars (1:30:58) Reactions to t...

Nov 11, 20251 hr 55 min

The New Blue Wave, a Great Value Economy, and the Act of Centering Men. Plus, Talking the World Series With Jesse Blake! | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Rachel and Van start the show with a recap of the recent elections, including what the “blue wave” of elected officials means for the future of politics, the passage of Prop 50, and the reactions to Zohran Mamdani winning the NYC mayoral election. Then, they are joined by Jesse Blake, co-owner of the podcast network SDPN, to talk about the World Series and what it’s like being a Toronto Blue Jays fan. Finally, they talk about the developing GOP “civil war” over Nick Fuentes before getting into S...

Nov 07, 20252 hr 15 min

A Broken White House, With Karine Jean-Pierre. Plus, the End of SNAP?

Jomi Adeniran joins Rachel and Van to react to the Dodgers winning a classic World Series before discussing the Trump administration’s efforts to cut the funding for SNAP. Then, Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary for the Biden administration, joins to talk about her new book, ‘Independent: A Look Inside a Broken White House, Outside the Party Lines’; the response to her book tour; and the reasons behind her exit from the Democratic Party. 00:00 Dodgers' World Series win (18:20) ...

Nov 04, 20252 hr 38 min

Black Political Power and Jesse Jackson, With Abby Phillip! Plus, Elections Galore and a Red Alert for Hip-Hop. | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Rachel and Van start the show with a conversation on the Virginia election and intercommunity politics concerning Black Republicans. Then they are joined by Abby Phillip, anchor of 'NewsNight' on CNN, to talk about her latest book, 'A Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power.' They end the show by giving their thoughts on the Billboard Hot 100's top 40 not having any rap songs for the first time since 1990. 00:00 - Welcome! 01:27 - Virginia Election Day approaches 16...

Oct 31, 20252 hr 20 min

Fatherhood and Forgiveness With Roy Wood Jr., Plus Ed Zitron Breaks Down the “AI Bubble”

Van and Rachel talk Kamala Harris’s political future, New York Representative Hakeem Jeffries endorsing Zohran Mamdani, and the Cash Money vs. No Limit ‘Verzuz’ battle before Roy Wood Jr. joins to discuss his new memoir, 'The Man of Many Fathers.' Then technology writer Ed Zitron joins to break down the economic impact of AI. (0:00) Intro (1:00) Kamala Harris running again? (9:53) Hakeem Jeffries endorses Mamdani (18:57) Roy Wood Jr. joins the show (1:12:51) Ed Zitron on AI (1:45:29) ‘Verzuz’: C...

Oct 28, 20251 hr 58 min

Sifting Through Emmanuel Acho’s Perspective. Plus, Logan Explains the NBA Gambling Scandal! | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Rachel and Van start the show by rating Stephen A. Smith’s apology to Jasmine Crockett before getting into Emmanuel Acho’s latest comments and perspective on our past intense interview with him. Then, Logan Murdock from The Ringer’s Real Ones joins to talk about the NBA gambling scandal, celeb culture, and masculinity. Last, they talk about the backlash against Keke Palmer’s new fish-out-of-water show, ‘Southern Fried Rice.’ 00:00 - Welcome! 00:53 - Sneak peek of next week’s show: The AI problem...

Oct 24, 20252 hr 4 min
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