A Real Conversation With Gov. Josh Shapiro
Mar 14, 2026•1 hr 7 min
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Episode description
Van and Rachel welcome Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro to discuss his memoir, ‘Where We Keep the Light,’ working across the aisle in the MAGA age, and community policing. Plus, addressing the rise in anti-semitism and approaching division on the Israel-Gaza conflict.
(0:00) Intro
(03:32) ‘Where We Keep the Light’
(08:58) Are we better than this?
(16:22) Crime and policing
(29:37) An NBA tangent
(32:26) Relationship with Meek Mill
(38:07) “Too bad a Jew can’t be president”
(46:03) Israel and the war in Gaza
Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Guest: Gov. Josh Shapiro
Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley
Social Producer: Bernard Moore
Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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