AND1 Mixtape Legend THE PROFESSOR!

It really does hurt. I can't you know when I face time you that's private. Yeah, this shirt on microphones again, you're giving away private information? Is true? Oh oh see, it hurts, It really does. What doesn't hurt is when we get to do Haypal podcast and have on all these awesome guests. That's true. I'm so excited. Even though the last time I saw you, you had me eat some sort of concoction. It wasn't chicken, it wasn't tofu, it was so It was soy, David, and it's healthy

for you, and you can make soy chicken. Well, there's no chick. Listen. My friend Sandy, she was like, you gotta try this place. I was kind of skeptical, like you were. It was, it was tasty, it was good, you know what. I felt good afterwards. See, that's all that matters, right. Our goal in life is to attain and we're gonna have Our producer Kyle put up a picture of himself on the website. Was when people go, they see what we're talking about because we mentioned him

so much. But our goal in life, Dave, is to eat healthier and feel good so that we can start looking like Kyle Tequila. There you go, like, what are we gonna do about our heroines? That is so true. We're both Jewish where we are screwed? Separate topic. Oh I'm a white Hispanic Catholic Russian Jew, So if I need to, I can go to that side. What we call it? What do we call the other day when we were faced, I'm a want know, we called it Ryan Rottman hair. Oh he's got Ryan Rottman here. Yeah,

we were that was like the ultimate goal. They got it all like, that's why we do a podcast and they're in front of the camp. It's amazing. I know. I took a deep breath, but I am um, I'm excited about our new guest, our next guest. Yeah, our new guests, our next guest are Pal. I'm excited about our pal as well. How cool is it? He's a pal, He's a pal, and he's an incredible talent. He has one of the most incredible skill sets. It's not human,

it's not of this earth. What this man is able to do with the basketball by beating thousands and thousands of people across America to be selected to the and One Mixtape Tour. He has some of the best moves on the court you have ever seen. Everyone on the streets and in the gym's knows this man. Please welcome to the hay Pal Podcast The Professor. How you doing. I'm doing well, man, Thanks for having me on. Man.

I appreciate the love. No, I appreciate you letting me, letting me bug you, letting me text you, and you go and I'm I'm in Like within a day. It was crazy. Just text him yesterday and he's like, was he dribbling a ball? When he texts, were you dribbling? Grace? I was actually just coming from dribbling. Okay, okay, man, listen, everything you've ever had to be a part of or anything. I know you're you're get down man, So it's all out man, Yes, sir, well, I appreciate it. That's actually

a great first question. We weren't even gonna ask this first, but just like and look, so the audience knows you know me and I call him Grayson, will call him the professor. I know him as Grayson. We've shot commercials together, we've actually auditioned for movies together. We've we've we've been through the ring or to get you go again? Talking about yourself, all right, let's let's let's include Dave. Dave feels left out. No, I'm not talking about me. We're

talking about the guests. I don't care what you've done. I want to talk about what Grayson's done has done. So, Grayson, you've been You've been an actor and and a professional basketball player. So how much time, uh, do you have to put into the professional basketball of it all? Like? Do these moves and everything come natural? Or is it? When you're like an actor, you've got to be in class. You then when you get on set and you know that you're gonna film a movie, you gotta prepare for

that movie like no other. Like what what are are there similar parallels there? I think it's definitely parallels. I think, um, no matter what you do, you're gonna have to be committed to the craft, you know, to do anything at a high level. Right, So being committed to craft was it. But I think there's also people different have different gifts, you know what I mean. So, like, I know, my gift that I discovered when I was very young was

I was really good at emulating moves, you know. So, like my very first move I ever learned was that Alan Iverson crossover in fifth grade. And I was like four ft nothing and I could like cross grown man, you know. So I immediately realized that was a gift. But it didn't mean I didn't like work at the craft religiously. So I think I think it's a little bit of both, you know what I mean. But I

think you can't negate the hard work. Was that from studying Ai That particular move was you just picked it up from watching him or watching other people in the gym. My parents actually got me the skills trainer, which was more innovative at that time. So this is like or

something like that. This dude was a skills trainer kind of like today, right, everybody in the mom's skills trainer in basketball, but this dude, he was really good at teaching the footwork of off the dribble moves, really everything. But like he's specified on that, and Alan Iverson had had been on the scene probably for like two or three years. We kept doing this crossover. So the first movie actually taught me was like in and out. Then it was in and out crossover, and then it was

like that Iverson crossover. And so I was a fan of Iverson, but him him breaking down the footwork and really showing me, you know, having good coaching is valuable. So yeah, so let me ask it like this, then, if if it's not you, and it's just a normal person and they'd come to you and they had no skill set in acting and no skill set in basketball, which one? Which one do you think is gonna be easier? Which one do you think is gonna be harder? Where

would you direct that that kid? Oh? That's because I think that, Um, I think naturally, like most people will probably say acting, but I think the skill of acting is very estimated. You know, like like you said, I do acting in basketball. I consider myself more of an amateur and acting and more seasoned than basketball. And that's because I haven't had as much time to dedicate to that craft, you know what I mean? Whereas I liked it,

but my passion was brilliant hoops. I almost want to say I would shoot for acting because sometimes the athletics thing for everybody, right, and just say that even though, but that learning curve would be tough too, So I would say it's really hard to even choose one. I would choose one. I would choose acting just because it's not I think more people could be suited for that and even get by if they're not great. Whereas athletics it's like, hey, competition is gonna be the bar and

some people gonna measure up, some people aren't. It is true, well, because you know the professor, I keep going to go Grayson the professor, his his career has been Dave kind of that similar as to like what actors try to how they try to make it. You know, he had to go in audition for how professor, how many how many people do you think that you beat out for that spot? And like I want to say, it was like two thousand three yeah, or um gosh It's hard

to say. I would say that there it was a thirty three city domestic tour and five thousand people maybe try it out each city, I'd say, like each shitty. Yeah. So it's basically as if like, you know, you let's just take uh, what should we take David? Like Twilight? You know, the breakdown has just come out for Twilight and everybody wants to be in the movie. You know. It was kind of like that, so that you know, Rob Pattinson had to go beat out all these people,

So what is the professor? The professor had to go beat out all these people? So what what is your preparation you know, to go into that, because we already know you can hoop, right, but now what you have to do is you have to stand out. It's just like an acting like Rob, you know, knew that he could act, right, there's a lot of good but now he has to go into the audition audition room and

do something that separates himself and raise another level. So what did the professor do, you know, for his let's call it the audition, you know, and what was your what was your mindset? Then? Um? So I was just coming out of one year at a community college, and funny enough, actually played three minutes a game at community college, like I walked on, the last man on the team, no scholarship. And it's funny because my career was kind of looking like a joke at that at that time.

But I always had a passion for the game, so it was the only thing I knew was the only thing that was fun to me. So I never stopped putting mad hours into the game. And I remember in junior or in community college, they mayn't even step it

up with more practice. So I would get up in the morning, I had just shoot, like I'd like make a five d jumpers before a practice, like early in the morning, six am, and then we would have open gym or something like that around two to thirty, and then around five would get in the weight room and like I personally, just on my own, would come back in and just just shoot jumpers or do whatever I

had energy for at the end of the day. And so you know, you're looking at like five to six hours a practice on a you know, on like a school day, and then I would still hoop on the weekends. And I had kind of like lived my whole life doing that. And it was interesting because I was kind of like a late bloomer. So after my freshman year at community college, I got like three better in the stretch of like a few months. But I think it

was just because my maturity was late. So I always had good offensive skills, but I really would shy away from contact on defense and being physical. But for some reason, right after my freshman year, it just clicked for me and I got a little bit scrappy and I was like actually a good defender. And so the ani Onal Mixtape Tour came along, and it was almost like my kind of like life dedication to the craft just paid off.

It's like that whole like when preparation meets opportunity for success, the whole thing just kind of like ran together during that trial to two thousand three, Whereas like I hadn't had the opportunity before because it's not quite everything clipped, so you weren't so you were just gonna go in there and go, I'm just gonna be me. I'm not gonna try to do anything to stay because you know, like like these actors out here, and we know so many of them, uh you know some of them are

like I don't. I don't try to impress or do anything. I'm just me. And then some are like, no, I try to find a way to stand out in the room because they see so many people got you. Um. So I was actually going there as a fan of AND One. Funny enough, like I had went to the game when they came to Oregon Portland, Oregon, like the year before that. I live an hour south of Portland in a little small town, So I went the game the year beforehand, and I saw they had an open

trial and I played. I actually got to play against a few of the AND One guys. But they weren't doing the Summer Long. They weren't doing the summer long contest for a contract winner. So this next year, I wasn't aware of the Summer Long contest. I wasn't aware of that, but I was aware that they may have a trial. But if they didn't, I was cool just watching as a fan. So my mind really kind of like whatever, like let's just go have a good time.

But when I did see there as a trial, I was like, okay, cool, I signed up, and in my head, I'm like, there's nothing to lose. I don't I still don't look like a hooper, So like nobody ever really much, and so you were like the sixteenth seed in the in the West regional bracket and you're just the whole career, so like, get on, I can't wait to give it all I got and try to show out. But I really was just going up there with like, hey, I'm gonna do me. There's nothing to lose. Nobody thinks I'm

good anyway, So let's get it in. Don't go anywhere. Hey, Pat will be right back after a work from our sponsors. What's the the origin of the Professor? How did that come about? Who? Who coined you with that nickname? How did it happen? It's such a great name. Yeah, so it's actually, um, it was on that and we'll make it tour that first year. I think after a few games. Uh, Duke Tango, who's famous for giving out a lot of streetball nicknames, guys like Skipped to my lu Escalade. His

list goes on main Event like all these names. He he had gave me the name the Professor because he said I was schooling people on the court. But I think he also thought that I looked I looked like a professor. I think like with the way my hair was at the time and how I looked, right, he looked intelligent and edgecated, was his takeaway. It's like the school and people on the court thing worked, but was

it was about the look more so? Yeah, and you gained instant fame now Instagram and all that wasn't around, so you don't know how many people were actually, you know, following you and all that stuff. What was that like to then like all of a sudden, you know, maybe you know, listen, you auditioned, you got the part right, and now all of a sudden, like people are recognizing you,

and what was what was that like? It was there was a lot of emotions running at that time because you know, I was virtually I was like eighteen years old. I really was like twelve mentally, like I was old with the late bloomer. So for me, it was a lot to take in because on one hand, it was like a dream come true because Skip to my Loo and Hou Sauce were as much or more my I don't Michael Jordan Allen Iverson. So now I'm like, I'm like playing against them, I'm on their team. Literally, like

you said one summer, it just happened. And then on the other hand, it was kind of weird because I was very overwhelmed with being a mainstream star, you know what I mean, Like I couldn't even I didn't even classify it as mainstream. Back in the day, We're on ESPN five times, and like that's as much fewership as an NBA thing, you know, and we had just as

much press. And it's funny too, because I didn't. I didn't picture it like that, but I did start to be overwhelmed with like, oh, we go to the mall, it's a little too overwhelming, you know, Like every time I step outside my house it's a picture time. My neighbors are spying on me my backyard. You know. Certain things like that were really overwhelming. But I got used to it after like a year or two, you know, just just got put up on games for some of

my teammates and stuff. Who's the greatest player outside of the NBA that you've ever seen yourself? Greatest player ever that you've been around outside of the m outside of the n B A dang uh. Definitely, I would say for me, probably one of my teammates I played with. Gosh,

it's hard to say one. You know, I could say um Ao Bone collect there or these guys in their prime, right like Ao bone Collector or I would go with one of those guys only because they were they were street ball legs and they did what they did on tour. But if if they went to uh Summer Pro row with NBA players, still kill it, like Boone was a two time MVP at Brucker Park and it's heyday, you

know what I mean? And Ao um Ao won a championship in the d League and then when you know, played with the Sixers for a little bit, a little stint, but not really like on On. So yeah, yeah, no, for sure Bone Collector, because I've seen the respect I've been around a lot of NBA players and seen them on the court and in the respect that they have for him, you know, when he was in his prime, when he would show up, it was it was pretty impressive. It was pretty cool. Is he the one that I

did the commercial with? Or is yeah? So Bone was all ball up? Um? I think, yeah, So he's the one that crossed me and then like it froze on me and my ankle. I think it was you know when I first stop Boning. I was amazing. I'm like, like, I knew Ai was quick, but I'm like, this is the quickest person I've seen with the basketball, you know what I mean? Like he was he had that kind of speed. Now, what would be your top five? If you had to pick a top five NBA team just

to start and play, uh past or current? Who would be your top five? Oh? You're talking about just just five dudes? Like, who's my team? Starting with? Oh? Man, we're gonna put Magic at the one. Okay, we're gonna put Jordan at the two. Huh wait, you're not putting at the two? Entertainment team or what? No? No, no, We'll do team next. Yeah, we can do an entertainment team. Magic at the one, Jordan at the two. Gosh, I'm always conflicted. At the three? Is it is it Lebron

or Larry Bird? To go Larry, I'm gonna show respect, o. G I'm but Larry Bird at the three, even though I do classify Lebron's and the top players of all time top five or whatever. For team's sake, I'm going Magic, Jordan's Bird, Kareem abdul Jabbar at the four and shock of five. Yes, yeah, not a lot of people do that. No, that's a great team. That's a dominant team for the most the most dominant. You know, well, I think I think people and nowadays two and part of it is

where we're at, you know, age wise. But a lot of people forget how lethal Kareem Abdul Jabbar was. I mean they just even on the inside, on the defensive side of the ball. And people say he's the goat because there's like the scoring records, he has six rings and all that. It's not a bad argument. And uh, and though I think he was a five, you know, put him at the four I think would seem fitting

today's NBA. But also I would think about the team dynamic, right, A lot of people would say they would want, uh, Magic Jordan's, Lebron and Kobe all on the same squad. I just think that was tough, right, You need like team guys. I think nineties those guys could play team ball, right, Dream Team, the first Dream team though they were all mega stars. Yeah, they knew how to fit a roll and make things work. Yeah, I agree. No, that's a great team. The only the only other person I think

in that mix I always always is Tim Duncan. Sorry, I always bring up Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan with Tim at the four right, you couldn't exactly alright, you can't go wrong with Jason Terry and Jason kitt What what are you trying to throw some baths in there? He is? He is, Hey Navinsky is a beast though like the new the new version of Yeah for sure, professor. Do you remember I don't know if you remember this, I remember, But do you remember where we first met? First encounter,

first encounter? Gosh, I want to say, let's see if he gets a drum roll please, producer before before the league day? Yeah, all right, we we met. I knew who you were, but you we we we weren't like you know, running It wasn't like friends that introduced us. And we said how to each other and we talked. We end up talking in between scenes for like an hour back and forth on the semi semi pro set. Wow.

Was it really on the semi process? Yeah? Because I was friends with Josh Broughton and he brought me up there and uh, and that's where we first we had first met on that on that on that movie. Wow. And then we saw and then we saw each other in the E League, and then that's what we're like, Oh, hey, you know and but um, but yeah, you've so he's been around obviously, you know, you've been around entertainers that that that can ball. So I think it's a great question,

day Bo. Who who do you think is your five top five entertainment team? And we're talking about entertainment, were talking about actors themselves, are talking about like roles like Team Will for the one. I love that. That's that's great, that's civic. Yeah, we've never heard anyone do that. You should do. Yeah, whatever you want, whatever you want. Dang okay, I would say, um, we're gonna go, yeah, you know what,

let's wrong with that. We're gonna Team Wolf at the one. Sorry, we're gonna go Kyle Watson at the one, above the Team Wolf at the two because Team Wills the two, right, he jumping over people. We're gonna go, uh dagn who's at the three? We're going Wesley snips, Oh man, can't jump? Excuse me. We're going Jesus Shuttle's Worth at the three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have the three. Um, I don't know what's Julius Irving's character in the movie he was in I can't

remember the fish movie. Right, Um, we're going with him at the at the full and then we're gonna go with Shock from Blue Chips at the five. Wow. I like that team a lot. Don't go anywhere. Hey, Pam will be right back after. A word for our sponsors entertainer was if I was just that to do actors like in bas him on the skill, I didn't know a lot of actors really hooped like that, Like Jared, you gonna have to be my top five for sure on there. I would say, Wow, Chris Brown's gonna have

to be on there, Chris Brown. I think Chris Brown, by the way, is he's incredible. Like Chris is a buddy of mine. I've seen him playing a lot of celebrity games and he just schools people. I mean embarrassing it could play for sure. I think that, Um, in those environments he flourishes, right because he's not really expecting

the high level. He's got a lot of that. There was just gifted, you know, yeah, which is basically the nice way of the professor saying he can't step on the court with him, though with curds of you time like he's a physical defender. I didn't expect that too, Like it was definitely a can who no doubt, keep going, keep going. I can't believe Jared made the list partially because he's not really an entertainer or a celebrity or even know's be honest, I don't know that many guys

that could hoop like that, like like entertainers. I mean R Kelly. They said, could who I seen R Kelly on video? I've never seen him in person. R Kelly is not bad. He's got a good jump shot. Yeah, bow wow, never seen and play basketball. But I didn't. I didn't assume he was like a hooper like that. There there were some guys in our league that we played in that we're pretty good. Um Nana from Coach

Carter is really good. It is solid solid. Steve Howie, if you remember Steve Howie from the show Reba and Shameless, he was really good. I don't know. Actually Julia White was solid, like better than I thought he would be for sure. Yeah, Jaliel's death, Yes, Jaliel can play. Oh and you know you know who? Uh professor is? Michael B. Jordan's Michael B. Jordan's good that's right. That's dude, that's right.

I remember he was up there. We were in Santa Monica, yeah, back in the day, and I was thought that was interesting. I'm like this, whose name is Michael Jordan's. I'm like thinking, like, how are you supposed to brand? And come on, Hollywood, your name is Michael Jordan. I was like that, that doesn't seem like that would work. But boy was I wrong. It worked, but it worked. So let me let me

ask you this. Um. You have obviously studied the game of basketball immensely and you have a great respect for it. Who if you could be in the room with I want to ask you two part. Who if you could be in the room with one person, asked him any questions and study study them? Would it be on the athletic side? And who would if you could just snap your fingers and they'd be in the room with you and you could study them or even go to work with them for a day. Asked him any questions? Would

it be on the entertainment actor side? Oh that's good, that's good. Um, on the athletics side? Um? Snap? And by the way, I I welcome past or present like that they could be they could be have passed away or living got you, I mean, I think I think snapped fingers, we gotta talked to m j C was good, you know, like for for sure, for certain right, I would love to see what his viewpoint is on even smaller ball things in basketball, right, like did you ever

watch and one? You know what I mean? Like you know what I mean? That would that would be a good combo. I think that'd be fun um entertainment. Maybe maybe like a Denzel Washington or Leonardo DiCaprio. I think I think those would be some some great dudes to draw from. I think, um, you're being generous by putting me in the acting category. I I you know, it's funny. I don't even consider myself an actor. I would like

to go back into that world. But the one lead role I had a movie actually never even came out. And then I had a bunch of little roles like its semipro, like I was like an extra or whatever. But that's like most of Jared's roles, So it's all good. I actually appreciate you even calling them a role for me. Hey, you've got that role Hurricane Season. I remember I audition for that. I never see those people ever again. So yeah, Hurricane season was cool. I mean, didn't come out the

way we wanted, but you know, it is. I mean, the acting game is a tough game. It is. It is. Hey, at least it was all record, right. I mean I look at I've been a part of I think two or three projects and never saw the light of day and had significant roles in them. So I actually thought acting was gonna be a thing for me at a certain time. I think when we first met, I was still kind of like trying to do that, you know

what I mean. But yeah, it's a it's amazing now that I've jumped onto the other side of the fence and I produced movies now to see like what all actually goes into it and how how much it takes like it like, honestly, it exhausts me. If I didn't have my partner like I would be, I would have quit a while ago. I would be done because it all is just it is so much like I left acting because I was like, man, I want I want to see results more like I want more control and

to see results. And then you get over to the producing side and it takes a million more things you know, at least when you when you're an actor, you audition, you get the role, you get to go film. It like producing is like you're working on this thing for two, three or four years. It's crazy, huh. And I totally feel you a hundred percent. I'll be working on a project that's a basketball when I was trying to get

off the ground for like two years. Now. We ain't even got into pre production, you know what I mean. So from funding too, from idea to funding too, you know, pre post and all this as a lot. You know, it is a lot. So before before we go into the segments, we got two segments that we always like close it out with. I want to ask you this and it might catch you on the spot, but it's fine.

Is what is the one question if you could if Denzel said, okay, I wanna I'm gonna be in the same room with the professor and he's allowed one question, only one, what is the one question you would ask Denzel Washington Um, you know, to be honest, I would show him the current project we've been trying to get made for two years, and are you interested in being an investor? That is a that is a that's a beautiful answer. I like, yeah, he's grinding. The grind never stops.

For sure, we're grinding. Yeah. So we have a couple of segments on our show. One of them is called the Spelling Bee. I'm gonna ask you both the question. We're gonna see who's gonna be the hay Pal spelling Bee champ for the day. Okay, so I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask Jared. You want to go first? Or you want Jared to go first? Well, I suck so it it's not gonna matter. But no, let let Jered

go first. Said it all. I am also terrible at spelling. Okay, Jared Mark Cuban was on the show and he'd beat me. Jared the word for the spelling Bee they palse spelling Bee. This episode is can't use your Phone Apocalypse. I'm planning to give you that one because I would have just said, I don't know, like it's over. Um, can you use in a sentence place, um apocalypse? Thank you? What's the what's the what's the origin? Um? I'm looking up the origin.

You have to look up the origin. I can look it up on my on my al right, I can use my phone. All right, I'll go for it. I'll go for it. A p ce Oh wait, sorry, I know Kyle's laughing at me. A p o CEO L y p s E apocalypse. Bam to you, professor that origin? Did you get that? No, I can't say it. You have to spell it as well. The origin is Greek. The origin is Greek. So oh c A L y p s. I'm not gonna put an e. It might be an E. I don't know. But see what's all right?

You are both incorrect. Professor by the way, which we have to change his nickname now because he can't be a profess sword if you can't spell, So we have to come he. We have to come up with a new nickname. And b you should have gone with the E the E at the end of apocalypse. He would have been right. He would have been right. A p o c A L y p s E. Oh. So we'll find a new nickname for you. Pal, you could I know, alright, Jared, you take it away. Uh. Well, we we like to do a little thing called the

the hey Pal penalty box. So we just put you in the penalty box and we ask you a series of of questions they are silly, they are goofy, they are often stupid. But just whatever, first, quick answer, yeah, quick answer, whatever, whatever comes to your mind. First we accept there are no losers in this one, correct, So I'm gonna first start with Dave or Jared. I can't do that. Excuse excuse, guys, your boys, Sir, he is in the penalty box. It's his answer. He's the guest.

This is this is why I shouldn't do a show with a freaking Mavericks. Yes, that's the first thing that came does alright, alright, he took a long time, by the way, so that's not saying that you had a lot of commentary after that one. I'm like, wait, is that the question? Like uh kauseam or space Jam, space jam? Alright? Blue chips? He got game? You got game? Uh? Isaiah? Or ai yet? All right? Childhood or an adult? Wow? And I'm assuming that you're sponsored, so you can't really

give the true answer. But prior to sponsorship, Nike, Adidas or under Armour, are you good Nike all day? Nike all day? There we go, it is always Nike all day. You were out of the penalty box, Professor. You have made You've made it out of the penalty box and now you can go join the rest of the team on the ice. Well listen, uh Grayson A k A. The Professor, We appreciate you so much being a part of the Hey Pal podcast and on behalf of Deavo and and myself. We just you know, that was awesome.

We we really appreciate you coming on board. That. Congratify your success. Man, that was fun. Hey likewise, appreciate you guys. Man. Professor, Well, are you gonna still let him call himself that? Uh? Well, yeah, even though he couldn't spell the word apocalypse, which is a difficult word, by the way, it's not an easy word spell. I don't think I'm gonna be honest with you. I think he was trying to give me a gimme because he was like yeah, because he said, like, because

he's so intellectually advantage. Yeah, well he knew, he goes. I'm not even gonna put the E in there, even though I know there's a fair enough um we should consider him maybe the second champion of but no, really impressive guy, Incredible what he's accomplished, you know, And I think any time that you can do something, I mean he obviously loves basketball and to be able to find a career doing that, I mean, how many people on

this planet can do what they love. He's not an NBA player and he found another way to do that. That's pretty awesome. I'll tell you what, I'm not one of them because I don't love doing these with you, nor do I with you. Yeah, no, he's awesome. It was crazy. I went and looked up his his Instagram and I was like, whoa. I mean, he has millions of followers, three million followers. I thought I was gonna see like, you know, maybe like five seven, eight hundred thousand,

and then I saw that. I was like, wow, that's crazy. It's still a lot more than you. It's a lot more than me. Um closest out, Dave, Dave, Dave for all the listeners, Dave has been a little bit. It's been a little iffy thing that I get to intro the guest and you know what, Dave take us out with that music by to bring us home strong. Dave, it is just always great to be here, not necessarily with you, but talking sports, talking entertainment. This is the

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