Actor Keean Johnson in the studio!

our chip everyone's eating Chipotle. Our sponsor we've got we were gonna try to get a sponsor. I think like that would be really cool. Thank you, Ken. That's our guests. We're gonna introduce him in a second. Okay, we've got our Chipotle bag. This is gonna be our first full visual in studio episodes. You can watch this online. Kyle, is that true? This is true? Okay? You just you just corroborated. You've got Chipotle and then also Dave, as you can see over there in the corner right, I's

got my own personal bodyguard. Yes, And why do you why does someone with no credits need to bodyward? Well, actually our guest key in which again we'll introduce it a second. He's very familiar with my credits. Can you can you tell everybody a couple of my credits? Well, remember Jared bushes me off and he'll, you know, throw one of my credits that I might not be too proud about. I'll just text him two words in the first word is hoodie and the second word is guy.

And if you go on IMDb you can find Jared Einson playing hoodie. Guy is kind of his m O. It's my m O. And not only that waiter number one, thank you Keen for that. But Dave, now do you see why? Do you see why I need bodyguard? Dave said, this is a couple of weeks ago when you brought

your bodyguard. It's because you're such an asshole with people that there's a possibility that you're you were wearing a hoodie and that Lindsay Lohan one to well, whatever the reason, it is, b A B A you got me right, He's on it. He doesn't wait for at all. We've got Chipotle going, We've got Keyan Johnson in the studio, all right, so here here we go. We're just gonna go straight into it. Let's get into it. I'm excited. I'm excited about our first guest. I'm very by the

way you can look into that, Dave. I have to teach Dave the ins and out. See, if you were a hoodie guy, you would have already known the in set that you don't. I was Driveway player number one in basketball, so that is very true. Okay, So we're excited. We want to let all the hay Power listeners know a little bit about you, Kei. And so our next guest has start in big blockbuster movies like Alita, Battle Angel for James Cameron. He has appeared devo on hit

TV shows I Think, what is It? Nashville Nashville love that show that is Dave's favorite. He called me last night Keian just to like be like dude, Keen and Nashville just so awesome. I love it. I love it, and he killed it, he really does. But listen, here is why we are here. This kid has been on absolute fire. He stars in Cutthroat City, which has gone to the number one spot on Netflix. Um, you know, starring opposite people like t I Ethan Hawk, Wesley Snipes,

Terrence Howard to Meet your Ship Junior Denzel Whittaker. I know we could go on and on, and Hulu released his movie The Ultimate Playlist of Noise, which has gotten incredible, incredible reviews. My Bodyguard included and Kyle Tequila. Let's big, have a big just let's I'm okay My Bodyguard included Kyle Tequila. Sometimes you get a second take for a guy take ad Bye, um, let's give a big round

of applause. Yeah, I just dropped my first piece. It's okay, It's okay, we'll have uh no, no, actually it's not okay. Don't do that again. All right. So, Kian, this is while you're eating, while everyone is eating, This is what we wanted to dive in right away and talk to you about. Dave and I, uh off offline, we've argued a little bit about what is the difference between an individual kind of sport and a team sport? Right correct,

And so we talked about football a bunch. I mean, Dave, tell her what you think is an individual I do, but tell everybody why you think is a team sport. So I can take a bottom of my taco sponsored well the perfect example of why it's a team sport and the playoffs. This last weekend the Chiefs game, Travis Kelsey, who's a tight end start tight end for the Chiefs, made an incredible block that allowed one of their wide receivers to make like a fifty seven yard game. So

had Travis not done that, it's it's a team. You need the team to come together to make those special plays happen. So, in my opinion, football as a team sport all the way, Well, I think it's an individual

I won't get into it right now. I want to hear from our guests, But do you think that acting when you're on set, are you finding it's more of an individual um sport so to speak, where you have to like make sure you're on point and it's all about you, know you, and then everyone else needs not all about you in a vain way, but like you know, you have to do your job and you have to then make sure everyone else does their job, you know, individualistically,

or do you think that it's more of a team sport. Um, we're hitting you with the herd, the hard hitter is right away. Well, I don't think I'm at the place in my career where I gonna make that decision. Um, so I just kind of go on and I kind of I see how you just kind of see what it is if it feels like everyone's kind of I think it just depends on if everyone's really excited about

the project, then it feels like a team effort. And then if you know you can tell people are like super not down with the project, it's obviously then you just kind of have to go by yourself and just you know, give your best performance in whatever field you know,

with your cinematographer, the director, or an actor. I think that if you're feeling like everyone's like, you know, not there as a team, you know, that's more of a moral thing, so you so you do think so then it's more of like a you think that people should show up to set though, and it should be a team sport because in my opinion, I just think, like, you know, look, I've I've made a movie with you, Kyle and I both have made movies with you, Um, you know, and I just think that it's everyone has

to individually. It feels like to me more do their job because you can't, so to speak in in like basketball terms, you know, you can have a guy come and set a pick for you. You can pick and roll. If you miss the shot, they can get the rebound. You know, they can have your back. They're playing offense or playing defense. And that's why you know side note, I didn't think that football is. You know, you can, you can, you can contribute always. But guess what Keyan

Johnson can't do. Keenan Johnson can't show up to set give this unbelievable performance, but then the next scene that he's not in, like he can't then like, you know, pick up that actor slack. And I'm not saying that there's you know, it's your job too, but like that's why I feel like it's more well, it's like offense defense though, right it's like they're still sitting on the

sidelines when the when the other team is defending. I think that's like, you know, that's that's why overall it's kind of like the coach or the director who kind of has to keep everyone in line and keep everyone excited to like make something really special. Um, but yeah, I think it's Yeah, it comes down to that. It's like if it's like that, it should be a team. But that kind of that can degrade and that can he brings up a great point, though, I mean, it's

it's on a film set. It's the director's job. I mean, the directors like a symphony conductor, right, and he's telling everyone how to do their parts and how to how to play their thing. And he's the one overseeing what the cinematographers doing, overseeing what the actors doing, making sure that hair and makeup is okay, making sure that continuity is okay. So it's very much of a team team after in my opinion, I mean, okay, I'll take I'll

take the l on this one. If both of you think that it's a team sport, well, what about we wanted to ask you. You're just such an individual in your home, it's all about you all the time. What you know you feel body bodyguard? Bodyguard? Yeah, he agreed, Dave. Dave's Dave being dragged off the set right now, folks. I'm sorry that the rest of the interview, I'm not concerned. I feel that the bodyguard might be on my side,

and the bodyguard is getting getting paid handsomely. Um you know, so, well, what about what are you paying in fruit roll ups? Don't answer that? Um, what about what about the physicality? You know, on this show, we do we do a lot of parallels. We we like to try to you know, um, compare sports and the entertainment industry. And you know, Dave had a great, a great point of like you know, for those who don't know, Keian Keen comes from the

h heavily from the dance world. Um, you grew up a dancer, and and we were wondering, you know about the different physicality or the or the you know, the likeness of the physicality aspect of being a dancer and having to get that sort of in shape and the balance that you have to center yourself, you know with and compared to, you know, with an athlete and what they kind of have to have to do. Um, yeah,

for sure. I mean I think that the like the base level of just like body awareness that I kind of got from starting dancing at like five years old, I think that over time, when I did decide I wanted to start acting, just like like little stunt Choira feel like there's a fight scene, I felt like I could pick up that because it's just choreography at the

end of the day, it's not an actual fight. So I felt like I could pick that up a lot faster because it felt like a dance So I felt like having that, you know, having that training uh beforehand, just in like also character development to like just and how your character walks and how you're um uh yeah, I think all of that, I have to think because of the early training that I had just in like you know, crack Field dance studios and all over Colorado.

I mean there's a lot of similarities too real quick by the way, Sorry, no, I think it's really cool because you know, I was telling Jared this last night that a lot of a lot of athletes, you know, at a certain point their training became taking dance classes, and especially on football and tennis, even because the footwork and the amount of dexterity it takes your working different muscles and just the awareness on the court or how

it helps you on the football field. That was a big, big part of why a lot of a lot of teams you know, have dance incorporate in some capacity. Um and especially like some of the greatest running accident ever played in the NFL, A lot of them trained as

dancers as well. Yeah, exactly, So I think it's it's really really cool, and I think you brought up a good point that you know, there's certain things that you learn doing that, especially with discipline and how your body works, and you know, movements and things that can translate very

well to film. So I think that's really cool. What about the weights of it all, Like where did you did you have to lift a lot of weights like to be a dancer or did you feel like you did, because obviously athletes usually feel like we have to lift weights.

You know, there's definitely there's there's no um. It's more about flexibility and those type of things, right, Yeah, and you gain you gain different muscles from I mean the muscles you gain from ballet, Like it's all body strength that lifting your arms and having just like complete control, like just small movements like that. Really, but nothing is sort of like you know, you never see any dancers trying to like get gains, but not trying to like

yoke up for the next dance competition. Right. Well, what's what's interesting, Dave, is actually nowadays I'll bet you it's less it's it's less about weights and more about like what Kien is saying about centering and balancing, like you know, because of the eurostep in basketball and like just all these guys that want to have more of a center balance, you know, James Harden, like all these guys, Um, they're probably all doing a lot more yoga, a lot more. Yeah,

it's pretty it is pretty interesting. Well, it's a more modern way of doing things. And obviously, like I said, like you know, the dance being and implemented with athletes goes back you know, probably twenty thirty years. But now yoga and and breathing and centering yourself because breathing is a big part of dance too, right, Being able to do the movements and be able to control your breath and have your breath not get away from you. It

takes a lot of endurance. Yeah, And I think the other parallel is like there's also also takes a lot of endurance to be your partner in this ship. Well, at least I have endurance. And like you, we can call a few girls about that. Took a little by it and you just got devour. That's usually how it goes. Feel sorry for cutting right now, um are saying what were we saying? Don't go anywhere, Hey, Pam will be

right back after a word for our sponsors. Yeah, there, I think there's a there's like a there's only a certain amount of years that you can, you know, be an athlete, and there's a certain amount of years that you can be a dancer too, And then I feel like as an athlete, you either after that you either start reporting right on ESPN or whatever like or then or you become part of the team in some capacity

as a coach. And as a dancer you get to that level where you're getting older and um, you're kind of done also just learning other people's chography and taking other people's art and you know, flushing that out for them. So you you know, you see a lot of dancers who want to stay in the industry, they become choifers and then so it's kind of interesting that ever, you know, you only have a finite of time where you're at

like your peak of dancing ability. Yeah, for sure. Well, and that's one of the things that I think is so incredible too, when you talk about like big performers, like obviously one of the greatest of all time, Michael Jackson, you know, for him to be able to sing and

dance and perform at the same time. You know, obviously Chris Brown is as a modern version of that usher, But the amount of the shape that those guys have to be in to do that is pretty much the same as the shape that a world class athlete has to be in to be at the peak of their sports. Is also the shape that me and you will never be in because we're sponsored by Tripos. All right, So, UM, I'm gonna go to this one. Um, the what do

you think makes a bigger impact or bigger friends? If you're the first pick in a draft or if you get picked in the second round. Like, if you're the first pick and everyone you know knows, like Trevor Lawrence right now, come out of Clemson into the NFL, everyone knows that Trouble Lawrence is gonna be the number one pick, and there's a certain amount of pressure that comes with that. Um, what do you think if you're the number one pick or if you're a second round pick that maybe not

as much as expected of you. What do you think is harder to do to kind of prove yourself or to kind of live up to the expectation. Yeah, I guess you can take it into your own world, can you know? Because you've been a lead in movies? Uh,

the ultimate playlist of Noise. I think you might be in like every single frame, right basically, well, but I mean, I mean you are, you know, but but you are the leader of the movie, and then you have other things where you're like a supporting right, So it's like it's like, what is that different perspective is it? Is

it harder? Is it harder to be the lead? You know, like Dave was just talking about, you are the first pick in the draft, you know, and you know you have to work that much harder to stay the lead or is it harder to you know? Or what is the difference in and when you're like more of a supporting and you're like, gosh, I gotta prove something and do my job. So the next time I am the first round drop pick um. Yeah, I mean I don't

I feel like I don't know. I feel like there's sometimes like you know, you have you have these great like supporting characters, and like I mean, revolution revolutionary Road. I always think of like Michael Shannon. He's only in the movie for like five seconds, but he's the only scene I remember in the whole movie. So for for me personally, you don't remember Leonardo Dicavri on that movie.

I'll continue, um No, but I thought that, like still, I think that that's just such a powerful it's just such a powerful moment um and he's only in it for such a short amount of time, so I don't

really think. I don't know if it equates, because obviously you have um in and in like in like football or you know, in these sports, I feel like you have these these people who kind of like take the way of the team when they do something extraordinary, and I yeah, I mean I guess that you can kind of equate that too, like you know, these small characters in the film, because I feel like sometimes they can carry it and you think about them, well, you talk

about people that like steal scenes. I mean, where you have those certain actors that they just they do a scene in a movie and they just steal it, you know, and they have that moment that everybody talks about and everybody brings up um And I think that's, you know, something that's really really cool. So sorry, don't worry about it. Cancel. We gotta for those that are listening, he's dropped a lot of sport on the ground. Well, Kean, what about

what about for you. Just just take for you the example of a lead as opposed to a supporting you know which one which for you? Which one for you makes you want to work harder? You know what I mean? If you're you were just in an ensemble and cutthroat city, right, does it does it? Uh? You know, we do kind of on the sports terms on this on the show. But does it does it make you uh leave that that movie set? And even if you had a great time, go, man, I just I want to go be a lead, you know?

Or does it make you go I had a great time not having as many lines as I'm used to and not having the camera on me as many times as I'm used to, And I'm okay with that, you know, I know it's different for actors. But what does it make you feel like? I don't know if it's I don't know, if I'm as competitive, I don't I don't know if that like that the competitiveness with sports of being like I want to be the best, the best. I don't know if that comes with acting because it's

it says a subjective. It's so subjective. So I think that parton I think that everyone, Um, I think that I think that if uh, you know, some throughout my career, some people might think I'm the best actor they've ever seen, and some people might think that I'm absolute trash. But in sports, you can't say that certain people are absolute trash when they've obviously like there's yeah, there's statistics, there's no real so so you're not you're not as competitive.

So when you when you do a supporting role, you don't leave the set going, man, the next one's got to be a lead. It's just what did you do with that supporting role? It's what it wasn't a Heath Ledger supporting in the Dark Night? But isn't that his movie? You know what I mean? Like that, Like, I don't think it answers for sure, Yeah that is. I mean, that's, by the way, one of my favorite performances probably, I mean a lot of people. You still need to get

that poster out of my ship. You don't know what you're talking about, bodyguard. He's talking back to me. Can we can we get rid of the guest Key and John Kyle store a few movie posters about seventeen bags in your house just for a couple of months, just for a couple of months. And by the way, I will say that that totally backfired on me. And the reason backfired is because it's been there, key And how

long was it there for like two years? The bag with all photos in it, So it was in there for two years, right, So Keen's doing this great favorite. So the other like right before Christmas, I'm like begging him, can I just come over and get that bag and

like look through it. He's on his knees and so I go over there, I get the bag and I'm like, it's literally my bag with all my pictures from like forever and they are just obviously because I'm a dummy, I kept them in a in a shed, right, they're all like destroyed of course, son, everything Like my first my first girlfriend, you just kept him in a you just kept him in like a sports bag. Yeah, I know. That's why I'm telling a story. It's on the shed.

It's like, first of all, you justice because it's hot and like, right, but if you but if you just throw a bunch of or in a box. Even no one told me that guy, maybe you just throw a bunch of photos in a sports bag. I mean, look, that is that is true Okay, well, look this leak, this leads us to this leads us to our next thing. And I think, I think I know what you're gonna say, but we want to I think David, I c I for this that we want to argue about it. But

it's it's a two part thing. You know, a lot of people in acting they talk about the process and the result, and they're they're very happy, you know with the process. Just getting movie made is like an accomplishment, you know, And as Kyle will attest to and and anybody who who knows me, I hate that, you know, I'm like, no, all that matters is the result. Was the movie good? Was the movie not? Did the movie make traction? Did the movie not? Right? Obviously we made

cut Throat City together. Cut Throat City just went number one. I mean that's awesome. Like that means you know, the people have spoken. Those are results. Those are kind of like the stats in sports. Right, we can even say, like maybe we want a championship with that, you know, we summon the darkness. I think went to what did it go? Like top seven or top four or five on Netflix as well, which also Key and Johnson uh

loves his character and that starring starring talking about stealing scenes. Yeah, Alexandra Dadario, Oh yeah, that's right. You did about that. You called me and you said that you're like Key and just steals the scenes, and uh, you know, so those are results for you? What is it? What is it like? Because for me, it's like, I don't care about the process. Obviously I'm gonna put in all the work I need to in the process, but but I

care about the result. I don't care about you know, how hard we practice, going back to basketball terms, how hard we played in the games. We didn't win the game. You don't win the game. So what are what are your thoughts? Um? I mean, personally, I hate it because I don't like because yeah, once again I'm at I'm not at a level in my career, Like I'm at the level of my career where I need these films to do really well so I can keep working. Um,

So which part do you hate? Though you're saying You're saying I hate it that that it had like that it is kind of about whether it's number one or whether results. Yeah it is, you know, because because that means okay, then this person, we're gonna give this person another chance to make a movie. And for the longest, I mean up until like three years ago, no one hadn't even given me a chance to make one movie. So and then you met a producer who gave you

a lot of chances. Right, Well, I lived in a producer's house and I did a lot of things for rent money. Well, you're saying in Hollywood, don't go anywhere, Hey, Pam will be right back after a word from our sponsors. Uh no. I yeah. So I think that I like, I like the process whatever, because it's like if I have I'm going to learn something on this, but like, hopefully I'm gonna do this for you know, the rest

of my life. I'll be like, you know, what's his name, Christopher Palmer is Christopher Palmmer won his first oscar eighty something years old. Like that's amazing. He's been working his entire life and so unlike an athlete, like there's longevity to this and if you enjoy it, you can do it literally forever. Um. So, so is the process more important? Though?

I learned? I learned something on every on every process, like I and I like being on set a lot, and I like, you know, seeing how shots are ultimately made, and then I remember that and then I see it how it's cut together, and I'm like, Okay, I see like what they needed, what what they took, and then what they ultimately needed in the end. I think also,

he's a true artist. And and even if you know, if you guys look at his instagram, like the photographer that he does, the pictures that he takes and all that stuff, he's like, he's a true artist. So his perspective is gonna be a little bit different than your regular you know. That's why, hey, pal show we don't have any wrong answers, right, it's his opinion, your opinion.

It's it's I just know that. Like, look, I've made movies with you, Kian, Uh, Kyle and I both actually and we've you know, we've made movies with with other people. And for me, uh and maybe it is just my competitive spirit and Dave, I would love for you to speak on this for a second, but for me, I don't care. Look, I remember me and you being on cutthroat, right, I will give everybody an example because it's just it's it's current right now, with it with it being out

and doing really well. Me and you went down there. You got this incredible role right where you're like have to braid your hair and and man, you were so in character where you got down there. And I remember going to your hotel room for the first time and it was like it was like blackout, right, you covered all the mirrors. You did like all you're smiling right now because you probably were like, Jared, why are you

telling you? Everyone is? But you know, look, hey, we we give people and a first inside look with Keyan Johnson here on the hay Pal podcast show. Okay, they get to know things that you won't tell other people. But so you covered your you covered your you know, your mirror and you you know, it was blackout and all this stuff. And I remember walking in the room and going, what the hell are you doing? I was like,

what is going on? And you looked at me and you said, you know, look, I'm taking this very seriously. If I see myself in the mirror, I might see Keyan Johnson and I don't. And you didn't talk to the third person, but you know what I'm saying. But you're like, I might I wanted to. Yeah, You're like, I might see myself and I don't. Want to see myself. I want to be you know, my my character right now,

and I don't want to come out of that. And it was very method of you, and I love that, right, But if the movie the reason I tell the people that is you took it very seriously, you know, I took it very seriously. But if the movie is not good at the end of the day and it comes out and doesn't perform right, then I don't care that you did that. And and it's not that I don't care in a way of like you know, I don't care about you. I don't care about I don't think

that I did my job. Then I don't think that you did your I think I could have done a better job with you. I think there's just so many other things that I can do. And I don't want the audience to be confused because because the movie business is different, you know, like you you can think it's good and I can think it's bad. But if it comes out to the masses and they think it's bad, then they win. And if they think it's good, then

then yeah. But at the same time, like I've never been to New Orleans before, I'd never know I didn't know what second line was, Like, I like basically got paid to like see a completely different culture to live in the ninth ward understand what that was like, Like I don't give a ship if the movie like did nothing because I I mean, I guess you're the producer and you paid me to do that. So no, this

is like perspective people, It's like from from me. It's like people see my performance, they'll like what I did in the movie, or they won't. But at the end of the day, it's like, yeah, I had like one of the most amazing experiences working with like uh rizk who I basically started dancing to his music when I was five six years old. Uh, I'm sure my uh you know, my parent mom got a pretty literally liberal um. But you know, it was just like it was like

a pretty amazing dream. Good of the process, like everything of like being in that um, being in that city and learning about so many different Like that's that's the problem.

Like if that's if you're talking about the process, not like where you get to go and like you know, we get to like go to like the coolest places and be on like weird sets and like I was in a I was in a weird strip club with like fake strippers were extras like doing it like it's just like you you're in a wacky world that you don't like. It's just it's it's it's weird, like it's it's you know, and we're it's I think that the process is is like, you know, who cares if anything else?

But at the end of the day, it's money. And I know that maybe from a producer's perspective, you think that you've done a good job if it hits that level, because that you're you're from that money. You're well half creative but half money side of like that, you're also thinking of that. I come in not thinking of that at all. Well, I also know that, look, we just had a number one together and that's really really cool

and a baby. I don't care. Wait a minute, I don't care if it's number one, but I do care if like the masses out there or like this is a bad movie or a good movie. Yeah, but at the end of the day, don't you want to be

proud of your work? And if you feel that you left it out all out on the field and you did the best that you could, aren't you proud of that whether you like it or he likes it, or he likes it or she likes it, because I feel like me and you've talked to him about this before, and you you care about the result, which is what

I care about. Well, I care about the result. But there's a lot to be said for the process and having that experience, and like what can and said for like to be able to Resa, for example, he's a friend of a pal of ours, you know, that directed the film. To have that experience of having that person that most people think of as a musical artist first, they don't think of him as a director first, to be able to have that experience, like that's so freaking cool,

you know what I mean? And and just to learn from that. So even if for him if the movie didn't do anything, you know, just to have that that moment in time that experiences is awesome. And I've been on sets of movies that we knew were gonna be huge successes. What were you doing? I've been on sets and um, you know, I've been on sets where you know, we didn't know if if a project was gonna do well or not, and it did. And again, it's it's

all about being in the moment. And I think his answer it's a lot different Rikian because he's such, like I said, he's such an artist. He looks at things differently, so for him, it's a learning process. So like he said, whether or it succeeded or not wasn't really as important to him as having the experience. I mean, I'm sure if I was a studio executive, like I'd be like, it's not it's all about the it's all about the money.

It's all about the results. And I feel like that's why it looks it's weird business be it's like half art half fight. Yeah, And it's strange because that's you hear about these like these low budget projects that end up blowing up, Like when Blair, Witch and Blair which came out. It turned the industry upside down because it cost X amount of dollars to make. It was like

how much was it? And it did like millions? Yeah, I mean, it just completely flipped, you know, and those filmmakers they were just doing it for the love of the process. In the film. They didn't There's no way on earth they could have thought I was gonna do a billion dollars, you know, I'm not Look, I'm not trying to belittle the process, like I think you still

have to enjoy. But I just think, you know, I think and and I feel like me and you are cut from the same cloth here, like when we come from the sports you know background, Dave, is that uh you know, I'll enjoy the process. But if I if I lost, I still lost, and I care a lot about I care more about that than enjoying the process. Um, for me, it's about results, yeah, I mean on the field, it's it's I feel I feel like you've gotten soft

on me here, like I did. I think inspired me a little bit in a little We've got a movie star in our a pell studio and you've already gone soft to me, and he's he's wearing off and you I think he inspired me a little bit, just to look at it a little bit different. But again, I hope you just keep eating your chipoli so we're gonna have to hear from you again. Um, would be a

pleasant surprise for everybody. But um, you know again obviously on the on the playing field, like you want to win, okay, like as a fan, all right, I do not want my seventies sixers to make it the NBA Finals and lose. I want them to win. That's the result that I want. And to be honest, I don't think I wanted to make the finals if they don't. Ken, I'm just gonna be honest with you for a second. I'm I'm gonna expose everyone. I'm chewing. Dave's trying to act like he

doesn't care. This comes from a guy. When the Philadelphia Eagles made to the Super Bowl and after they won, Okay, he was easy crying. He was crying the guys. This is a true story. Tell everyone who you wrap the Super Bowl with Julius Irving, dor Dr Kevin Hart, Yes, yes, who else? Jamie Fox? Jamie Fox? And he is in the middle in a row with these guys and they win the Super Bowl and he he couldn't even move. He's sitting there going, oh my god. He just starts crying.

And there's video, by the way, guys online if you go to Dave boss cost there is Instagram, there is Okay, Kyle's gonna put this least to but do do we also talk about the reason that I was so emotional. I don't want to talk about that right now. Okay, because you're gonna feel bad, right it makes me, well, obviously makes me sad, no context, at the of the day, At the end of the day, I do actually love you and care about you, even though I try to act like but yes, it is. It is sad. You

can tell that, you know. It's not sad. It was just it was it was beautiful. I was I was crying out of joy because my team want but the beauty of my father passed away and Philly sports was like our thing. So having that moment to see our team win was like, I was overwhelmed. It was. It

was awesome that that family connection. And that's one of the differences between I think sports and and and film is you know, in that moment, there's there's that connection of oh my god, our our our team did this. And you might have that in movies when you know, you win the Oscar or something like that, when you have that award. But again, our our genius guests put in perspective because it's all subjectives about it's all subjective.

It's it's you know, some people, like he said, some people might love his performance and something and one thing, and they might think it sucks in another thing. So it's yeah, we have to believe. We have to believe that one out Kyle, just because um Kean never cusses and we want to keep the good boy image. I don't. So he's changing, Yeah, exactly, he's changing, right. You see, you inspired him inspired, you inspired him, he started cussing. So the last part of that question is, Dave and

I love Tom Brady. We respect him so much. And Tom Brady obviously was a famous quote, but he was He was just quoted in saying this a couple of times that they're there. He was saying do or don't there is no trying. So obviously with that quote, you're going to say there is trying, right or well, yeah, well that's what I'm saying. I said it was a famous quote. No, no, that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying he's not no, no no, no, no, no, I said

it was. Yeah, I think we're in trouble here. They have all podcast because our producing he gave up no like so so it's cute. So there he is trying for you, right, Kim. Oh yeah, he's obviously speaking from like a sports perspective, right, not as a jedi guess has a little green guy. Alright, we're onto the next thing. Don't go anywhere, hay Pam will be right back after

a word from our sponsor. UM. In the NBA, when you make the All Star Game or even in the NFL or whatever all star games where you've been selected, you're one of the best in your sport. I performed at the All Star Game? Did you? Did you really? In Denver? Yeah? For the little we were called the little Busts. I shuk yumming and Shock's hand and everything. That's awesome. Wait, can we get my mother used to be? I mean this is on camera like a little it's exactly.

It's like I don't need to Yeah, so we're good at UM. So when an athlete makes it to the altar game, I feel like there's a moment where they take it all in. They take a deep breath and they look around them because it's all of the best, you know, a peers in their sport, and they have this moment where like maybe they don't say it out loud, they've made it right, like they've made it like, Wow, this is cool. Being in a movie with Terrence Howard,

t I Ethan Hawk Wesley Snipes. I mean that's so cool. Like we said, Issa Gonzalez, um to meet your ship Junior, all like Cat Graham, there was Shamik Moore. You know, there were so many people, all stars we should say.

You know that was a big one, right And so was there ever a moment where you were on that set in New Orleans and you look around, you know, and it's like just five years ago you were, you were, you know, just making the move out to l A and all that, and like now, all of a sudden, do you have one of those moments where you're like I've made it or what what what sinks in for you? Yeah? I mean there, I mean probably I'm not. I don't

get like starstruck. But there's there's this like a mens respect act of like when I would when I the first time I saw Rizzo, the first time I saw Wesley or Terrence. It's just kind of this like immense respect of like they don't know like that they had an impact on you and whether whether and they and I'm not going to tell them that. And I never told risk of that except for when I made him sign my thirty six Chambers Vinyl. I was like the weirdest fan. I came up to my director and I

was like, can you sign my vinyl? Who are you? Just started? I was like I had corn rows? Remember I have regularly? U No, so uh yeah. There's like just so many moments like that where yeah, I felt just like so blessed to be amongst these people. And like then when they say action and then I get to like look at them and like we're like in character. It's like kind of this like fun thing where like in character together like putting this facade facade whatever that means.

I don't I don't want to use the word facade, but we're like probably pretend with these people that I watched as a kid on the screen. I think it's just like pretty powerful. Yeah, it is cool to be a fan. I mean Dave, Dave gets a chance to be around a lot of actors of note and and I have to, and it is cool to be able to.

I think it's you have to have that balance. I think we talked about this with Mark Cuban, you know, because where we were saying, like the reason that Mark Cuban is like the most beloved ownor and people just wanted is because he is a fan too, Like he loves his Mavericks, you know, so he has to do business,

and but he also you know, loves them. And so I think it's cool when an actor like you gets to go on set and like you know, like you just said, when they say action, it's business right, But when they don't, it's like you take a deep breath and and you get to go like wow, like you know,

but it's also cool. And I think he experiences to where you realize that these people are just human just like you are, you know what I mean, And there's really no difference, you know, except for the certain things that they've accomplished. But yeah, well the only yeah, the only thing say is that it that. Yeah, it's just like when you when you can see, you know what

car they drive up in? Now an important they are, no, they like just because they have such experience and such knowledge, they just like throw out little stories here and there. Like I remember when I was doing my like first big film, which was Alida in Austin, there was one night where it was like seven hours or eight hours of shooting where we were really just capturing one shot.

It was this really important shot and it was me Christoph Waltz and Jennifer Connelly like by a heater and we're just like freezing, freezing our asses off by this heater. And they were just talking about like there like their start in acting. They were kind of like talking to me a little bit about it. And then we're talking, you know, Jennifer was talking about her first set with

David Bowie. Uh. Kristof was talking about, um, you know when when he started like in Germany and when he came to New York and worked with Lee Strassburg, and I trained Strasbourg the method. Uh um, when of my where am I thinking? Method? Um? When you were when you were studying what is it? You know? What is it called technique? Like I said, I studied the method technique And and Christof is talking about stories of working

with the guy who created his technique. So so these these little things where he's talking about it like it's just like past stories, and I'm taking it in as like knowledge that I am like a forever And course I'm playing it cool and just acting like it's like

he's saying nothing. But there's these things that all these people, because of their experience, they'll throw these little things out especially Rizza, like countless times where he would say things that we're just so powerful and you kind of keep forever. Now he's he's incredible when we talked to him, like there's things come out of his mouth and you're like, wow, yeah, you know he's That was a cool That was a really cool episode before we get to the playoffs. You know,

there's a lot of super teams now in the NBA. UM. You know, people the stars teaming up with the other stars to try to win a championship. If you got to create your own super team, right, and you could team up with one actor and one actress, you know, maybe it's an older actor who gets to play your dad, and maybe the actresses opposite you, Like who would be your super team in a movie? Um, I'm just like anyone. But you're saying, like a certain specific age whatever, whatever,

you get to create it. You get to create the super team just like these guys are doing. You know, I mean, whatever you would want, what would be what would that look like for you? I mean the first name that definitely comes might be like Anthony Hopkins, like a legend, So and what kind of a role would you see him in opposite you. I know that puts you on the spot. But I mean any anything, just anything, Yeah, yeah, Anthony, I would be playing the tree. Um, so who else

would you pack in that movie? I mean it's like like Meryl Street, like you just go. I feel like when you, like, if I had like the choice to just yeah, you're shrugging, you you get to create yourself because yeah, but then but then, but then I'm thinking that it would look like one of those like Valentine's Day movies where it's like all the stars and you're like too many. So it's like you just choose one. It's about It's not it's about are we trying to

get a number one movie here? I'm done with the number one movies. I get it. It's all about the process. No. I mean yeah, Tom Hardy, Um, Christian Bale, oh yeah um. But those are a coupletis. You have to you have to build an actual super team for a movie here. So who are you gonna Because that was a good point. He even said, I don't want to make like a Valentine's Day because me and you've talked about this day. You go too hard and then there's not there's not

enough to go around. Yeah, so so build it for us. It's you starring opposite Anthony Hopkins. Do you want to fill the rest of out with just talented unknowns or do you want to plug one more brilliant actor in there that you're gonna get to play opposite of? And who is it? I'm just like I have like maryl and Anthony be my parents. Okay, that is a good one. It's a great one. That's a pretty great dream team. Can we make that happen to It's possible. Anthony is

one of I mean he's awesome. I mean, he's incredible. He's awesome in no. She she's amazing too. I mean every like, literally every part she's ever played, she's just like it's not acting. I mean, it's just such a strange. They're on such a different level. The u is it was it Sarkin's recent film that was on the boat The Queen Elizabeth. Yeah, have you seen that on SPO I mean just that it's just so it's such a simple film, but she is absolutely captivating in every It's

every single moment that she's on the script. And it's not like one or two moments where you're like, wow, that was really interesting. It's every choice that she makes that and that's maybe it's like she's done it for soul. I mean when you're like, when you've not when even nominated for like fourteen oscars, I'm way maybe it's not even a choice anymore. Well, no, it's something that pilot.

I've talked to actors that have been on set, like Samuel L. Jackson or Morgan Freeman or somebody like that, and they just said, when it's time for their scenes, it's just a different level. It's like there's a different energy in the on set, there's a different mood. And they said organically, it just raises their game without even wanting to, Like they don't make a conscious choice to raise their game. It's just by being in those people's presence.

They sometimes they at the same time they get to read the best words written of that year. You know that goes with it too, Like sometimes you see like films with really good actors and the writing is just not quite there and it's a little awkward. Um, but I don't know, I feel Mary could still kill it that she definitely can. Don't go anywhere. Hey, Pam will

be right back after a word from our sponsors. Well, my friend Mr Key and Johnson, you have made it to the end of the hay Pal podcast show, so we have that means what has he made it to Dave, Well, he's made it to the playoffs. Playoffs, hey pal? Play playoff so Keian Cutthroat City. We won't give too much away, but it's basically, you know, a disaster happens and then it's about these four boys that you know, so these

teams that are on a mission. Um, So what we decided to do for your playoffs where we took eight films that are sort of like that about teens on a mission. We always we always exclude the guests, uh, you know work, so we will not have any of your work in there. And we let you pick who's gonna advance. We let you pick because I would choose my work. Yeah, we let you pick he's gonna make it to the finals, and we let you pick who is going to be crown champion. So Mr Dave taken away. Alright,

So playoffs seating, hey pal. The number one seed for this bracket is on a Mission Teams on a Mission Amazing film Number one super Bad versus the number eight seed, the Lost boys. That is a good that's a good matchup teens on a Michian Johnson who is advancing. Oh, it's only one advance. Yes, I mean, Kenneth, I'd say, I'd say, I mean, I'd say that they're Yeah, they're they're both incredible. But I just know every word of super Bad. The number one seed, alright, the number one

seed holds court, it advances. Okay, so now we've got we don't look a little bit. I mean, I just I love super Bad. You got this, sister. So now we've got the two seed versus the seventh seed, which is clueless versus dazed and confused Johnson who is advancing. That's it, that's a good one. What were taste confus? Again? Well, I guess clueless is advancing and the post and confused is the big smiley face. Yea, So should we take

that back? So then, or we'll cut that out? I know it out, but cut it out alright, So we're keeping that alright? Wait, so who advanced though clueless or confused? I know, yeah, it's just like i'd known that, you know, when you just can't think of we listen, we're all human, we have a blank every time. That's that's an every summer, every now, every shirt has blanks every time. Boy, do it to yourself. You can do this, I really do. Alright,

Onto the next the next seating. Alright, the next seating. We have the number three, which I basically modeled my life after this movie. H Ferris Bueller's Day Off, you take every day versus the numbers six. Back to the Future like the franchise, No, like the cologne just the first film. Back to the Future versus Paris Bueller's Day Off. Teens on a mission. Well, the I feel like I feel like Back to the Future is like a team and it and is like fucked up, like weird old

friend on a mission. It's not really teams. And I feel like the Paris Buelers. It's definitely too that it's just team. That's true teams all. I'm good with that. And the last seeding to get to the next round is the four verse five seed Mr Key and Johnson. The four seed comes in at none other than Greece and the five seed comes in at Breakfast Club. Who is advancing to the final four. Um, I feel pretty like about both of those. Oh, I like that, I like that. Do we just eliminate them. We just we

just eliminate them. For all the others. I mean, I feel like, yeah, listen, I don't want to lose any fans listeners and the fans and the listeners opinion who built this list? Okay, So don't tweet at Pal, tweet at Keian Johnson. Don't. Wow, just gonna eliminate. He just got rid of them eliminating Breakfast Club. There does Breakfast Club doesn't do it for him. It doesn't do it. I had to read scenes from a Breakfast Club for

a movie. Um, and he hated book book And because of the director didn't want me to read any of the scenes from the film. Wow. What character breakfast character? Um, it's a blond kid's name, uh Amelia Estevez. Yeah, it's like that long, that long monologue that he has. And I'm like, but how do you go in an audition with a monologue that's been already very much done before.

Yeah you've seen. Yeah, I get that very interesting. All right, Well, we're eliminating both of them for the first time in the hay Pal Okay, Like you know, we've got the Dave, We've got the one seed versus the uh seventh seed, which is gonna be What a matchup. Wow, it's a great matchup. We have match super Bad at number one versus Days and Confused at number seven, which Keyan was the first time he heard that he was he was?

He was? He might have been in character at least Stroburg, christof Walton all comes froll, certain super Key and Johnson. Who is it in terms of in terms of like what movies ultimately better? There is no rules here. This is just for fun. It's your playoffs. You get too stress involved. There's no stress. There's no stress involved. How I've already eliminated from one one bracket that we're playing

each other. That's amazing. I'm gonna seen it go with I want to go with U. I'll go with I'll go with super Bad because I've seen it so many times Superman. Okay, Number one seed keeps its spots. Number one one has done, it's home has done, it's it's job kept on court. And now we have a forfeit in the next round, Dave where Ferris Bueller's day off does not even get to play. Russians Club moves on moves. I like that. I would have chosen Paris but he's

got a bye week. He really really, he really does have a boy. So you know what do we put Do we put key in I'm gonna let Dave decide this. Do we put Keyan Johnson in the penalty box? Almost definitely? Or do we Okay, so he deserves to be in the penet absolutely no idea something that happens in a hockey. But we're gonna ask you a series of questions. You just answer the first thing that comes to mind, super easy,

super simple, simple questions. Favorite cartoon of all time? Oh, shoot, movie, cartoon, movie, anything you want? Anything you want, any cartoon? Rick and Morty, Rick and Morty. Okay, that was a really good one. Yeah, that was a good one. It's too It's to be honest time. Um, cargo shorts or quart roy pants? Great question, Um, really great question. We made keen smile. Does it make me seem really poor or dumb that I need to

know what quarduroys are? It just means you're young. Let's ask the bodyguard, bodyguard, can you tell can you tell our guests what it is? So that's not the only one one. How our bodyguard, who is you guys, doesn't know what desc how could you just skuye couarto roy pants that textured? Yeah, pants that have like lines John Bryan Andrews and well thin lines. I like the lines instead of cargoes. The penalty boxes was made to be quick. So we're gonna do it. We're gonna do a different question.

It's fine. They don't know what it is. They'll do a different question the next question for Keen just doing he just the penalty boxes and just slash the playoffs, just got rid of two film Johnson does what he can. When you have movie and he's in the hardest state, O man, you have the number one movie in the United States. You do whatever those shorts or couter right pants and he's like, what are the quarter right pants? It just means he's young, alright, he's Keen Johnson. You

can invite two people to dinner, living or dead. You're not Keenan Johnson. I know I'm listening living or dead. Who are the two people you would invite to dinner? Uh? Sour Dolly and And by the way, that's what I was just there there you guys are getting a very inside look on who who Mr Johnson, And I'd just like to tell him that that's just be like, hey, you know we share a birthday, Like, I like that.

What is it? What is keen? Honestly, what is the one question you would ask either of those guests if you could look them in the face. What is the one question? One question, one question that you would just like be dying to ask. How Like, how did it? How do you define your aesthetic? It's a great question, very deep. I like it. I like it all right, Um, we know that how do I define my aesthetic? Well, Corduroys,

of course you booked honey guy. And then it was yeah, all right, we know that you know you're not your traditional sports fan. But if you could only play one sport is a professional out of all the sports that are available, what would it be? Mm hmm like chess master? Wow, grand master. Again, that sheds a lot of light on who we're talking. I love it. I love it. All right, we're gonna keep out of the penalty box. He's back on the ice, and now we are to the finals.

Dave said, Okay, pal cabal. He said, you've just got out of the okay, pal cabal. Alright, So the playoffs we're down to. We're in the finals. This is the finals, the finals, number one seed super Bad against the number three seed Fair Spieler's day Off. Who is the winner? Who is Keen Johnson crowning the Chimp? I mean, I feel like you can't. I feel like I feel like Seth Rogan had to have gotten some inspiration from Ferris Spieler's day Off. I feel like that that, you know, no,

I feel like that that team I don't know. I feel like that was I feel like Ferris Spieler hits that like comedic, like best friend comedy. But then it also feels like a huge movie, like The Parade for No Reason and going Er feels like he's going, Yeah, he's going, He's going on incredible movie. John Hughes just crushed it. It's so good. It's so good. Well, Keian Johnson, you not only made it out of the hay Pal penalty box, but you also crowned a champion in the playoffs.

And it's completely left me das contented in all syrias. Um, Oh, you know what I want to ask you? One more one more question, one more one more quick penalty box type of question, ready Chipotle or anything else? And can you look into the camera. When do I say Chipotle or anything else? No, No, I'm ask you Chipotle or anything else? Well, which is better? And look into the camera when you answered. Just get to the point when

I finished. When I was just a wee young kid, I was doing a show called Billy Elliott, and twice a day, going to the theater to Chicago, I would get not one, but two Chipotle bulls, and I say both of them. I would eat one before the show, and then I'd eat one during the show. And I was so obsessed with Chipotle that they actually sponsored a party for me my last my last performance, and they brought us a bunch of burritos to my apartment with no furniture in it because we were leaving, and we

all h poll and who else? Wait, and who else should they sponsor? Key Johnson, you don't have a Chipotle card. I'm gonna have to work on that. Look at that. It's gonna I'm gonna work to Dave Bosco coming through. Okay, in all seriousness, Dave take us out. This is an awesome interview. What a deep and great deep And again it's so cool, especially you know somebody of your age to see you look at things so differently. Um, I think it's really refreshing and really cool and uh, proud

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