Hey, humans. How's it going? Susan Ruth here. Thanks for listening to another episode of Hey, Human podcast. This is episode 454, and my guest is doctor Maria Michael. She's a Lakota Dene traditional elder and healer. For over forty years, doctor Michael has been respected as a medical intuitive channel, empath, healer, psychic, and teacher, and has earned five advanced degrees. She has worked alongside and for many spiritual leaders in many traditions.
She's especially respected for her ability to create sacred spaces for people of all races, cultures, gender, and religious beliefs. I met her through my friends, Marybeth and Philip, and I adore them. And I knew that I would adore doctor Michael. She's been very helpful with me in keeping me calm before a particular surgical procedure I had to do earlier in the year. And so that was really lovely of her having
not ever even met me. We had a Zoom and got to know each other a little bit, and she's just she's a very calming, exciting presence. I know that seems like an opposite thing, but you'll understand when you hear her speaking. Alright. Check out heyhumanpodcast.com for links and to learn more about my guests and the show. Check out susanruth.com to learn more about me and my other artistic endeavors, including the film festivals that the first, my short film, will be playing
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on social media and Patreon. You can find my albums on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your music. Rate, review, and subscribe to Hey Human Podcast on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you for listening. Be well. Be kind. Be love. Here we go. Doctor Maria Michael, welcome to Hey Human. Hi. Nice to see you again. Great to see you as well. I know that others can't see you, but you look
incredibly beautiful. You're wearing a prayer shawl, and you've got these gorgeous beads, turquoise, and I can't tell what's going. And I'm wearing a Dene scarf. This is the same scarf that brought in World War two Ukrainians and the Dene people together in the trenches, and so we wear this in their honor. There's been a whole cross referencing between that side of the world and our world, between the code talkers and the and the Dene fighters in World War two. And so we consider
them our relatives. We've been supporting them through this fight. The Dene and the Ukrainians came together to help fight in World War two. Mhmm. Well, they met in the trenches, and I actually have a story in our own family. On one side of the family, there was a Polish man and a Dine man, and they fought together there. And they made each other a promise that if they both made it out, they would name their firstborn
a name from the other traditions. So there's a Polish man out there with a Dene name, and there's a Dene man in our family that has a Polish name. So it's it became that much of a because for Dene, it's all about the circle of life. Right? It's all about not only for Dine and Lakota, but in the in the reservation and indigenous world, it's that we're all connected. We're all related. And so they kept practicing that through the war. And so there's a real crossing.
And so we honor them. And, in fact, we did a prayer when the Ukrainian war broke out at a Ukrainian church. We went to the Ukrainian liturgy and in English, an in Ukrainian, and we brought these scars from the reservation, and we honored two of the grandmas love it. And took them in. Would you be considered grandmother? Yes. According according to my license, it says yes. But, yes, we're considered a grandma at Standing Rock. They used to call us grandma Yeah. When we were
doing the activist work at Standing Rock. So, yeah, we're considered a grandma. You have several degrees. Five? Five degrees and half of a second PhD. We have a first PhD and then half of a second. The spirits rudely interrupted and stopped us. I want to say before we continue on too far that it might throw people a little bit. You refer to yourself in the we and us. Can you explain that a little bit before we continue?
Sure. That's really a great catch because we forget that we do that because it's so automatic. So in our tradition, we believe that we are related to every living thing and every living being. And so this problem with the I and the ego separates us from not only our own helpers and not only our own relatives, the living beings, the standstill nation, you call them the trees, from grandmother Earth, from sacred the water of life.
And so in that way, when we say we, us, and all, it encompasses all that exists galactically, cosmologically, and all the four leggeds and the two leggeds, all the creepy crawlers with and without legs, all the ones that swim in the water, all the winged ones, all the four leggeds, all the elements of air and light. It helps us to remember creation and that we are part of that circle of life.
So thank you for asking us to explain that because it's so automatic to us, and people wonder how many of us are coming when it's only just one little grandma. But I love trees being the standstill nation. I've grew up with a deep adoration of trees and admiration. Still have it to this day. I talk to trees. I hug trees. I love trees. Us too. That is absolutely perfect because they feel like people to me. Well and we are fashioned after them. If you think about it, we take nourishment from
the earth. They take nourishment from the earth, and then they use their their gifts to change that feeding from the earth into an elixir in their bodies. Some of them create sap. Some of them create maple. Depending on each tree is different. Right? And so in that way, they take that that nurturance and that that blessing from grandmother Earth, and then they put it out through their limbs to the world to help create the oxygen to feed us.
Like them, hopefully, we are using our our hands, our right hand to to give out and our left hand to receive. I thought maybe it might be helpful to start with a prayer. They just the spirits just said that that would be something that might be helpful. Is that something you would like? I'd love that. Grandfathers, grandmothers, grandmother earth, sacred sacred water of life. We ask all those that swim in the water. We ask all the creepy crawlers with and
without legs to join us. We ask all the winged ones to join us, all the standstill nation, all the Tonka'ayate, the stone nation, or the Petawaka, the sacred fire that burns within each of us and on all the altars around the globe. We ask all the four leggeds and the two leggeds to come together in peace so that you may guide us and help us to find a way in this world to live without war so that we, as two leggeds who have been slow learners, because we've not learned how to evolve without it.
Help us to change this paradigm from one of prayer and greed to one of peace and prayer and love. It is through that place that we have the chance to really recreate the way grandmother Earth is treated, the way we treat each other, and the way we begin to understand that we're one sacred family of all living beings. Help us to learn to extend our right hand to give to those who are less fortunate.
Help us to learn, stand on our left, Creator, and help us learn to receive so that we can walk in balance. And on the days where we are clear in our path and we know the path that we need to walk, we ask that you stand behind us and give us the strength to take that path because it's not always an easy path. And as you see the dreams that we hope and pray for, we ask that you be the wind beneath our wings so that our dreams can take flight.
And on the days when we are tired and we are lost and we are confused and we seem disconnected from creation, whether it be by technology, whether it be by whatever is distracting us, by whatever is happening in the world, we ask that you stand before us and help us follow you for as long as is needed until we have clarity of vision, clarity in our hearts so that we can find a path and take the right path, the one that is in right relationship to all living beings, and walk that
without you. And on the days when we are so weak and so worn out, We ask that you lift us up and carry us for as long as is needed, and we ask that you fill our fountain up with the sacred Minni Wiconi, that sacred water of life, until we are completely full.
And when we can completely rest in your arms, creation Wakatanka, great mystery, when we are full and you feel we are ready to get back to the earth, We ask you to gently place our feet on the back of grandmother Earth and let the people come to drink that sacred so that they can have the strength and the love that you want for them and that you can use us in that
way, each and every one of us. And let us also remember to hold back some sacred for ourselves because many of us are very good at giving, but we forget to take care of ourselves. And without doing that, we cannot keep helping.
So we thank you, Tonka Shela Unxi, for asking us to do this prayer because we had invoked already speaking about the standstill nation and all these living beings, and they wanted they wanted to be included so that they could help us, help all of us two leggeds, help everyone, help every living being so we can become one sacred family. We are all related. Uh-huh. Beautiful. Thank you. You're welcome.
Let let's go back to the beginning of whatever you stories you wanna tell, I'm curious about what life was like growing up for you, with your gifts and your connection to your people and the to the world at large. The gifts came to us very early. We had a lot of visions of us with a knife in our mouth and being underwater and watching watching our relatives being killed. So we had a lot of memories of our previous lifetimes.
But the gifts came, and they actually terrified us because we would see things in people, and then they would get sick. Or we would know things were gonna happen in the world, and then they would happen. And we, with our lack of knowledge and lack of understanding, we were not grown, raised by people in the indigenous way and world. So it was frightening because we actually thought we were creating these things. And it took us a long time to begin to understand that we were being
communicated with. We knew it. We could hear things. We heard beings say things. We saw things. We had visions. But being raised by people who are non indigenous was confusing because we didn't really have people to speak to about that. We had one grandmother who was not of this tradition, but she had the gifts of prophecy and would dream about things that would happen. And so that gave us a small opening to begin to talk about those things.
But, as she said, we needed to keep those things quiet. And so it wasn't that easy. And for a long time, we ran from the gifts because they were so powerful, and it was so strong. And we felt what we were being asked on some level to do was too much responsibility. So we started off trying to help people doing things like
just helping people on the side. We we were draft counselor during the Vietnam War, and that's when we, cut out of school, out of high school, and we're busy going to different places in cars with people we didn't know and trying to help that way to stop people from being drafted. And it's also where we learned a lot about money and this country and who got to go to the war and
who didn't. So the people who could pay for four Fs or have their papers disappeared or psychiatrists write letters and had the money to do that, they got out, and we got our math teacher out, actually, as well. We realized that a lot of the brown and black people were the people that were going out to the wars, and it gave us a real understanding about the government and the paradigm of power and greed from a very young age.
But it also showed us something that we also thought in many ways was a blessing because for us to see that at such a young age, to see that disparagement and the caste system that was built into this this Western world. And we got to see women, and we we approached them actually and asked them what places they came from for draft counseling. And they looked at us as if we were insane. And they said, no. We're not here for draft counseling. We're here to go to college.
And the way we were raised, girls didn't go to college. That was not a place for a a girl. Education was not and so we decided, ah, that's something that we wanna do. We are capable of that. When we were young, we were told to be quiet and be barefoot and pregnant. That was that was our purpose. So we're dating going all the way back. We're a pretty old grandma. Those things were said back then, but,
not said anymore. And and the spirits tried to redirect us several times as we went through school and we'd have accidents and we became a hemiplegic. We've had a lot of series of unbelievable accidents in cars, all none caused by us, but nonetheless our body absorbed the accident, and it's not an accident which part of your body absorbs the accident. Everything is predisposed in the body based on traumas and different things that you've experienced as a child.
And the spirits would say, work with us, and we'll help you walk. But we were pretty stubborn. We said, no, we can walk on our own. We'll learn how to walk again by ourselves. Because we felt that at that time, when we were in our early twenties, that we weren't ready for the responsibility of walking this way. We felt it was too big. It was too frightening to have someone's life in your hands, and what if you weren't empty enough and you made a mistake? And so we chose to keep going to school.
We loved it. We worked with special needs children, and we've worked in prisons. We've worked with cocaine and heroin addicts. We we like to work with people who, I guess, in many ways in this society, were people that were thrown away by the systems. Were you did you go after so many different degrees as a way to keep yourself busy from eventually heeding the call that was being called to you? Well, we also loved learning.
I mean, we when we were young and wanted to work with special needs people, we began to realize that unless you could get people to trust you, especially people who were different, you would never get them to learn anything. And so it just began opening up degrees in not only special needs. We had a triple masters, then we had a master's in psychology, then we had a PD in psychology, then
we had a PhD in psychology. We began to realize that helping understand where people were coming from and and working in the trenches with people who'd been in our society thrown away. Like, we worked with young people under the age of 21 who had gone through Rikers and Spofford and had at least five felonies. And we were very blessed in that we worked with another psychologist who recruited us. We were the only woman in the entire prison.
And we came up with this great idea that we wanted to stop this circle of recidivism. And because we had the training we had, we did all the testing. We didn't know why they were in there, and we said, we'll tell you why they're in here. And we actually created a school. Half of them were dyslexic. Half of them had learning problems. Half of them had major traumas in their lives because they had no mentorship.
And in that process, they got to turn their lives around because they began to feel like someone cared about them. They were not just numbers. They were just not statistics. So for us, all that schooling helped us get other skills that would be greatly needed in the work that we were meant to do in this lifetime because we put ourselves in psychiatric hospitals
where people were just put away. We were we worked in a hospital where young women who were promiscuous were sent up the river in New York up to Wasaic Developmental, and they were put in with nonverbal people with IQs below 30. But after you live with them for thirty, forty years, you're like them. And so we helped deinstitutionalize them and help create halfway houses and teach them skills so they could be in the community and slowly begin to not have to be housed in those kinds of situations.
So we think spirit worked with us in terms of where and how we got educated and how that would help us in terms of helping people on the reservation because the people on the reservation are also the forgotten people. And so we started working with the forgotten people through Western world and then used all that knowledge to then help the forgotten people on the reservations in different ways. I think a lot of people in their they don't really consider
people on the reservations. They know of it this thing that exists, but they don't go any further than that. Can you speak to what life on the reservation is like and what some of your work has been with, particular reservations that you've worked with? Sure. We've lived on the Oglala Territory, Pine Ridge. We've lived in Lakota Territory couple of times, and it's a really hard life.
30 to 40, sometimes 50% of the people don't have infrastructure for housing, for electricity, for heat, for running water. Right now, this during our most recent work on the reservations, we are also a spiritual leader. We're a Sundancer for the last thirty four years and leading Sundances, and that's our high holy ceremonies and sweat lodges and, you know, where people need help. We do doctoring at the Tree of Life to help people deal with whatever pains they have.
But our work most recently started during the pandemic because the US government did not give the reservations any PPE. So the doctors and the nurses and the EMTs were dying quickly. And, actually, I mean, there's some pretty horrible stories. I mean, I I but the important thing was, how do we raise money to help them? If they don't have water to wash their hands, how can they stay clean? So we began we were actually walking up a hill.
When we do prayer ceremonies, and on the fourth day of someone's passing, we put tobacco in running water. And it's not tobacco like we think of cigarette tobacco. It's tobacco with herbs and other kinds of things with our sacred pipe. And we happen to be going up for one particular holy person's wife who had passed. I want to say something. A lot of people use the word shaman, and shama means holy person in Mongolia. And so we don't use that word.
That's, that's a Western white word that's used that everybody and his brother and sister become shamans when they go to weekend workshops. It's really a misappropriation of the language, and the holy people in many of the indigenous languages, there's no word for them because everybody just knows who they are. They know who to go for help for. It's not like it's a a title, I guess, is the the best way to say it. It's it's it's considered one part of the spoke of the circle
of life and the wheel of life. That's one role. The fire keeper is just as important in the ceremonies. And so when we were going up the hill to to place that tobacco and then got three other calls of three other people who had passed, when we were up at the top at the waterfall, the spirits told us that we had four days to get ready to start a GoFundMe because the Dene people would be hit the worst.
And then we started the GoFundMe for the Dene people, and we worked the entire pandemic, going back and forth, bringing supplies. We had two brothers who also worked, and we would arrange you weren't no one was allowed on the reservation at the time, but we would sneak in with different license plates, and we knew where to drive. And we would bring We called doctors and begged for booties and begged for, you know, the the gowns and begged for masks, and we had a lot of people.
We just put out the word, and Boulder Mask Makers helped us as well as New York City Mask Makers heard about us, and they started sending masks. And then people started donating sewing machines and cloth from quilting companies, you know, quilting companies, organizations. We just and we didn't know anybody in Colorado at the time, but we just started putting things out there and it just took hold.
And so we spent the next four years, you know, we put water tanks, 275 gallon water tanks around the reservation. We raised money to buy trailers for our brothers. And then our brothers, on top of working and helping everyone, they would go and deliver water every day to all these people so they could wash and keep their hands clean and try to fight, you know, the illness and the disease because they had no protection.
Even though they were used as a part of the experiment from Johns Hopkins before the vaccines came out, they were asked to be volunteers, but they were also told if they didn't volunteer, they could lose their government jobs. So that doesn't sound like a volunteer job to me, but these are all stories that don't get told outside the reservation. And so
we then started helping after every sundance. We would come home and use our driveway to, collect blankets and jackets and boots and books and anything that was needed for women, children, elders, veterans, disabled, crutches, anything that anybody had. And we would rent fifteen, twenty foot trucks, and we had other people drive them out there. We followed them, and that continued for four years while we were living in Colorado. Indigenous Americans are a huge proportion of veterans.
Yes. It's a big honor. And there's there are three code there are two code talkers only left. The third code talker who we got to meet because of our brother Earl, we actually had fallen down a flight of stairs with a suitcase and Wanda cracking something. And we still went out because we had his down jacket, down clothes, two pairs of long johns, a wool beanie. His name we can't repeat his name because in our tradition, we don't use their name after they've passed because we don't wanna bring
them back. We want them to continue on in their way. But he lived in a shack, a real shack, not something that he deserved to live in for someone who helped save. He was one of the code talkers. He helped save the war. So nobody deserves to live in a shack. Correct. And no one deserves to live with no heat, and no one deserves to live with no electricity and no running water. But it was wonderful to meet him, and we wound
up giving him his gifts. And he told us stories, and he would speak in Dine and then other languages he picked up while he was in the war. But he was a hundred and two when we met him. He died at a hundred and four. And there are still two two code talkers left, and we're glad that not all their faces are back up because the current regime has taken them off, but they're still not on the military side.
So as part of this country's need to erase people of color, they're completely not back being visible. Yeah. That's, to me, bonkers that they've literally gone through and erased the names of people and airplanes because the word gay, Enola Gay, it's an airplane. They took that down. Yeah. Jackie Robinson. It's an important airplane because it's the airplane that dropped the h bomb. Of course, it's important, but it's got the word gay in its title. It's so ridiculous.
It's very upside down. This teacher came. This regime came because a lot of people in this country did not appreciate the freedom that they had. And so now they have to lose their freedom to understand to understand what freedom really means. People took it for granted. A lot of people in this country are people of privilege. The forgotten people, as we're called by our own people, because even during the president elections, we were never mentioned. They mentioned the black people all the time,
but they never mentioned the indigenous. It's like we don't exist. And we're in many urban centers, many, many urban centers, and on the reservations. And a lot of the children leave the reservations because it's not a lot of work. And so part of why we when we say we're doctor Michael to people, it's to help people understand that indigenous people are smart if given the opportunities. There are two nieces, are hydrologists
who have been working with NASA. One's with NASA, and one has been working with Deb Hallen when she was in the Department of Interior helping to find water for the reservation because our water was cut off by a dam on the Dene Reservation. So they've gotten their PhDs from UVM, but they also had a father who made sure that they had the opportunities. A lot of native people on the reservations are still traumatized from all the boarding schools.
You know? And so there's a lot of mistrust of the white nation. But Krazy Pars spoke about all of us coming together at this time, and so it's about keeping that belief alive that we're all related, and we're here for a reason to help each other. You're keeping really busy. You're putting, as they say, your money where your mouth is. Talk about some of the different things you've been doing lately. We've been given permission to use our gifts to help people in general.
So we have worked we do an intuitive ceremony, which we charge for because tobacco cannot fill the gas tank, and tobacco cannot help pay PG and E. But most of our work is for free because all our you know, we did all the climate change work in Denver, in Colorado, and we helped doctor Greta Thunberg at the time when she came in sick. So all that work is free. All our protest work is free. But it's important work because from Young, we were chosen as a keeper of the Earth.
So we are bound to her forever, and we are most grateful for that because she brings us so many awesome gifts and awesome visions and awesome experiences. It's it's it's we need to keep remembering as people that there are miracles happening every day, and those don't get on television. They only put on television sensational news, and there are wonderful things happening. There are people who are doing incredible things, but the the part of our work is working individually with
people and or in groups. We used to work a lot in groups, but because of the virus, we stopped doing that because it was too close and it was too dangerous. But the work that we do is we can go into trance, and we use our gift of sight to travel through the body. The body's an electrical unit, and each cell is like a computer chip. And it has information about why we're not healing or what we're predisposed to, what diseases. And we work a lot with cancer patients.
We've worked with people who've had transplants. We've worked with people who have lupus. We have worked with people who have ALS. We've worked with people who have a lot of the people we see are people that Western medicine says you're done. And then they come to us or find out about us either through the Internet, through wwdoctormariamichael.com, and they read about us. And we've worked in people as far as Dubai,
and Australia, and Africa. It doesn't matter. The spirits spirits don't have to use a plane. They can travel very easily and go anywhere that they want. It's really quite remarkable. But we get to outline and give people a blueprint of what's going on in their body and where they're stuck and what people they have swallowed and what things and what traumas are still impacting them that cause disease in the body. And then they at least have an idea of where to start to do the deeper
work. Some of the people choose to do the deeper work with us. Sometimes it's not appropriate. Sometimes we're recommending doctors. In fact, we're gonna be meeting a doctor on Sunday who's happened to fly into California, who we worked very extensively for four years four days. She was a graduate of Columbia Presbyterian and Yale, and we helped create, a protocol for pre and post vaccine so people would not become long haulers with the spirits. And she was
very open to working with them aloud. And before the vaccine, the spirit gave us a whole list of herbs to take so that people could stay safe. So we work in a variety of different ways. We we love working individually. It really it's like watching a flower blossom one petal at a time as people heal. It's it's such a gift to be a part of that. I can think of one person that it would be an interesting story to hear. She had COPD. She had emphysema. She had fibromyalgia,
chronic fatigue. Her hands were bent. Her toes were bent. She went to work like that every day in pain. She was on 14 or 15 medications. She had an inhaler that she used several times a day, and that was the only way she could exist. And her sister actually sent her to us, but for four year for four months, she was afraid to call us because she was afraid she was dying and didn't wanna hear the truth didn't wanna hear that and knew we would speak the truth.
And, eventually, she had the courage to call us, and we worked together for two years. And we wound up talking to her pulmonologist because he wanted to know where her COPD went and where her emphysema went. It was completely cured, and she had no more fibromyalgia, had no more chronic fatigue. She walks four miles a day to this day, and she's completely healed and has uses no medication. The body knows how to heal, but you have to give it the right information.
And if there's trauma in the body and in the cells like chips, it holds that information so tight because people become split apart. They're sensitive, and a part of the emotional part of their bodies get separated from the physical body so they can just continue to keep functioning. And they function, but only half of them.
And when you're able to integrate both sides, whatever their children's dysfunction is from little, from their twenties or their thirties or their forties, we started working with her in her fifties. So she'd been sick a long time, and she healed herself. And it's really possible to do that. We have healed ourselves of brain tumors, all kinds of things. We used to have doctors say, can you just go to medical school? Why do the spirits keep giving you all the incurable things?
And we kept saying, because that's how we're learning to do it. And they were like, yeah, but you're giving us all PTSD. And I was like, but that's how it is. You said something a minute ago that really struck me. You said the people we swallow. What a what a perfect way to say that. Can you talk about that a little bit and how that it's in the body? Life is busy and distracting. And when we're in pain, distraction is a gift. We
think. But it's not really a gift because what it does is it puts away our emotions and separates us from feeling the depth and the overwhelm of the emotion because maybe at that time, we don't have the luxury to feel it. We don't have the environment where it's safe enough to feel it, and we need to keep functional because in this society, that's what's important, staying functional, to keep working, to keep doing.
And so what happens is we split apart, and the emotional parts of our body go underneath imagine a big boardroom table there's different ages at different places and what happens is we swallow the people and the pain associated with those people, and they go into different organs in different places for different reasons.
And it's those things that if an organ has a % energy and 40 or 50% of it is being used to hold on to emotions that can't be dealt with or won't be dealt with, then the organ can only function on a forty, fifty, or 60% plane, which mean it's not functioning optimally. And, eventually, it catches up with us and wakes us up as a disease like cancer or AIDS or dialysis or transplants or heart surgery, whatever the illness might be. And so there's ways that we can prevent
these things. I mean, there are things that we inherit genetically, all of us, through our family lineages. But there's a difference between genetics and epigenetics. We can have epigenetics, and we can actually change things from materializing. For example, in our family, there was a history of gallbladders, and everyone had their gallbladders out on on the maternal side from what we were told. And when we had appendicitis, they wanted to take our appendix out, and we said, no.
We need it. God gave it to us. You can't take it out. But they prevailed because it was ready to burst, so we said, okay. We'll let you have it, but we didn't sign any other papers. And when we came out of surgery, they said, we should have taken your gallbladder. And we said, why? They said, well, it's diseased. It needs to come out. And I'm like, oh, no. No. No. No. We're stopping this genetic transmission
right now. We're We're gonna start working on this gallbladder because we don't wanna pass on bad gallbladders for the next generations. So we can change things epigenetically. Things don't have to manifest. And we're quite old, and we still have our gallbladder. Do you have children? Yes. We have two. We have twins. We were very blessed. They're we have a son and a daughter. They had a hard time coming in. They were born at two pounds and came in three months early uncooked.
Not sure why they wanted to come in that way. But our grandma and the rez went to the tree of life and prayed for them in the December and felt the tree raise and said, don't worry. They're gonna be okay. But they had a very hard couple of years being on heart and lung machines and having RNs live with us around the clock, but they're great people. They're just great people. We're very blessed. I understand the path of souls that that, is walked upon after you die, after you shake off the
mortal coil. Is there a belief system that incorporates reincarnation at all, or is that not part of the system? Absolutely. We come from stardust, and we go back to the star nation people. So we're doing constantly getting calls about people who are dying and helping them through hospice or helping them pray for them doing a four day ceremony and helping them go to the Star Nation people. There is absolutely a belief that we come back. And, you know, living on the reservation,
it's very hard. People freeze to death every winter. It's you know, where our dream is to build a library on the Dene Reservation. We have 4,500 books, but it's not enough, and it's 28,000 miles wide. And we know that the current regime is going to try to break the treaties because they want the resources. Already caught them trying to dump lithium waste on the Dene Reservation in a far corner where nobody was. And so we had a dream about it, and we talked about it with our brothers.
And now there's a law that no trucks can go through the reservation because they wanna keep dumping. That's why we keep talking about being the forgotten people because they wouldn't think of dumping it in Washington, DC near near the White House or near rich people's homes. They think about dumping it where it perhaps won't be seen just like the original pipeline for Standing Rock. DAPL was originally supposed to go through Bismarck,
the capital of North Dakota. And then all of a sudden, it miraculously got changed to go through the water on the reservation, which would also impact 2,000,000 people further on down the Road. But as long as it wasn't through Bismarck, it was okay. So it's it's happening a lot to the reservations all around. Logging and ever being paid for the the the land that's been taken for logging, and they never see the money. The government has been corrupt for a long time with
the people. It's just gonna get more corrupt. But we need to go through this. We need to go through this to wake up. Some of us don't need to be wake woken up. Some of us are more awake, but there are many, many more that are not awake. And what's really exciting is watching all these red states, people going to town halls and there are people being afraid to show up and other people going and they're screaming and they're angry because they're gonna have their rights taken away.
They're gonna lose Medicaid. They're gonna lose Social Security. They're gonna lose things that they took for granted. Right. Anyone now can be taken off the street. Anyone. You don't have to be a gang member. It's happening. We've had 20 people from the Dene Reservation who were picked up and out in, New Mexico and Arizona who were we don't know where they are. This happened months and months and months ago when they were round when ICE was rounding up people.
We know two people who have one of the highest clearances you can have in the government. It's a couple. It's a a friend's daughter and son, son-in-law. And when they have an Alexa, you know, that Alexa thing, we don't we don't have one. They have one because they like it for music, but if they wanna talk, they leave their house to talk. They know how dangerous it is. Just like the smart TVs, just like our computers, everything is two way.
It's very 1984. Yes. George Orwell was way before his time. All the sci fi writers knew it saw something. They all had their little time machines. That was the first first book we taught. We were given a class to teach English of JD children, kids who were juvenile delinquents and were and we were told what's the curriculum. We're just bringing it up because it's a funny story. And they said there is no curriculum. Just keep them in the room. I said, what?
That doesn't make any sense. So we got friendly with another English teacher, and we taught George Orwell. And we actually had our students attacked using George Orwell techniques the other class, and we had a whole revolt going and taught about revolution. It was really wonderful. And then they we had sometimes, we had police officers come into our our room to collect children. And we stood at that door and said, you are not allowed in my class. You're not on my roster,
and you're not collecting anyone. If you wanna talk to them, you have to talk to them after class, and you have to go to the main office. You cannot just pick people up in our room. So we're very used to standing up The power. From young. But George Orwell, when we taught ninth grade English to those kids, George Orwell was the first book we we chose to teach. What are you working toward, in the coming months? What is on your agenda? We're doing a lot of activism as much as we can.
We helped run the women's march in San Francisco. We were at Tesla last weekend for veterans because for us, veterans are very, very important warriors. It's, it's really actually criminal in the Western world. In an indigenous world, when a warrior comes back, there are special ceremonies that are done for them to help them release after killing so many people to release the trauma of all of that. And they work with them for a long time. That's just not one ceremony.
But in the Western world, we go and teach them to be killers, and then they we expect them to come back and be normal and just go about life as if nothing has happened. And they're so traumatized. And so many of the veterans are homeless. So many veterans are have killed themselves. Right? So many veterans are Addiction. Right. Addiction. And now even being kicked out of the VA because they're closing up the VA with the current Afrikaner whose name does not
deserve to be spoken either. It's all gonna fall back on them. Just it's all gonna fall apart, but we have to have patience, and we have to keep fighting. It's really important. The protests are really important for all of you who are out there. Not everybody's a protester, and that's okay. There's lots of ways to help. There's lots of ways to pray. There's lots of ways to fight the regime.
But protests and being on the streets is really important, not only for the Republicans, but also for the Democrats. We would like to tell people about the five calls that are it's an app you can get on your phone where they give you the name, you put in your, ZIP code, and all the people who are your senators and congressmen come up with their phone numbers. And you call them every day and flood their office, screaming at them because they're not showing up either.
The Democrat not showing up. So let them all be flooded. Let them all wake up. They are supposed to be there to represent us, and they should all be calling Maxine Waters is out a lot. Jasmine Crockett's out, and the two Connecticut, people are out. But a lot of the other people are not out, and they're not fighting vocally. And it's important that people see that that's happening. So I think it's important to pray. We don't realize how much, how many galactic beings are here trying to help.
There really are that level of help coming from all over the planet, and grandmother Earth, there will be a lot of disasters that are coming. So people need to be prepared because she needs to clean herself, and she needs to take care of herself. And there's a lot of prophecies around all of those, but I think, you know, we may not wanna There's a Hopi prophecy I've heard of that augers some pretty scary things? Well, there's a lot of prophecies that
that has very scary things. It's not an accident that we're in California at this time. Let's just say creator puts people certain places for certain reasons. It's important to understand that a lot of people in California have built homes where home should never have been built. But it has a a lot to do with power and money and prestige, and we're going to be brought to our knees in many cases where there's gonna be volcanoes erupting. There'll be a lot more tornadoes. There'll
be earthquakes. There'll be a lot of things that are coming, but we'll all be okay. Grandma needs to take care of herself because we're also abusing her on a regular basis. Yes. You know, I wanna talk about one story that I think would be very uplifting so that people can understand how the spirit world works with the human world. We were asked to go to 09:11 to the pit to pray.
We had done four days of walking with the dead with several other spiritual leaders at our house after 09:11 to help walk with the people who were leaving in shock after nineeleven, who were stuck in the in between. And when the spirits asked us to go to nineeleven to work in the pit, everyone thought we were kind of crazy, but that happens to us a lot. And they said, how are you gonna get in? It's a crime scene. And I said, I don't know. We don't know. Spirit's gonna figure it out.
We just have to decide. We've learned, and we're old enough that we've learned that when spirit says jump, you just ask how high. You don't ask why. You just do it. So we flew from Colorado to New York to go to nine eleven. What we didn't know is that they were selling tickets. You know? At a certain point, they had started selling tickets. It was really kind of very bizarre, to see, but they were still cleaning up. And so
we didn't have a ticket. So we went to the police officer who was there collecting tickets, and he said, do you have a ticket? I said, no. We're here to pray. We're here to do something. And we asked him to just look in our eyes, and we stared at we stared at each other and looked very deeply for a long time, and he said, okay. He said, go through. He said, you're here to do big work. And we went with a friend because she couldn't believe we were gonna do
what we were gonna do. And so we went to the head of the National Guard, and we said, we need to speak to the head of the National Guard. And they said, why? I said, because we need to go into the pit to help some people. And they were like, Nobody goes into the pit. They're cleaning. There's a lot going on. And I said, Well, then we'll sit here and wait. So we sat there, and we were dressed in full regalia.
And there was a man, actually, was a fire person who came the first time, and he said, you've been here a lot of hours. What are you doing, and why are you standing here? And so we said, Because we're going to pray. We're here to pray, and we're here to help people who are stuck, and we're going to pray for as long as we need to because someone's going to take us into the pit at nineeleven. And he started laughing, and he said, whoever tries to take you into the pit
will lose their job. You can't go there. It's against the law. I said, it's okay. We're just gonna wait. He said, you could be here for a lot of days. I said, that's okay. We have fasted for eight days a night without food and water. We can stand here for a long time. We're not afraid. So he left. He came back several hours later and said, You're still here. And we said,
Yeah. We're here we were sent here by the spirits, so we're gonna wait until the right person comes to take us to where we need to go. Couple of hours later, the same fire person came back to see if we were still there. And he said, what are you still doing here? I said, well, we're gonna be here a long time. We're just still praying, and we're praying for the right person to come and take us. He said, you're not gonna get in. I said, it's okay.
Spirit will find a way. Spirit always finds a way if they want something done. So when he came back the fourth time, we had been there all day, and it was close to, what would you say, sundown, I guess. And he said, if we take you, we could lose our job. I said, we don't want you to lose your job. Don't take us. We'll find someone else. It's okay. Someone will come. And he said, you're so determined to help. I said, well, that's why we were sent here. We're here to help.
So he said, if we take you, we have to go back and back ways, and are you good at running? And can you hide behind people? You're, you know, you're kind of dressed up. I said, No problem. No one will notice us. He said, Would you be willing to take the pastor of the church that survived the explosion? Because he's been wanting to pray as well, but he's had no way to go there. I said, No problem. Prayer is prayer. It's only as true as the heart that's saying the prayer.
So the more the merrier. I said, no. No. Not the more the merrier. We'll just we'll just take a few people. So we wound up running in and out of all different ways, going back alleys. It was very interesting how this fireman took us. His name was Misha. He's a wonderful human being. And we went to a spot where we could overlook the pit at 09:11, and we had brought cedar and sage. And he said, no. No. No. No. No. Don't take anything out. The FBI is in that building. The CIA is in that building.
All these buildings, you're on camera. I said, oh, that's okay. We've been on camera before. It's nothing new. I said, we're fine. So we sang, and we did a traditional song for all the people who were stuck still there in that pit, and everybody was crying. We were crying, and then the fireman was crying. And then we said to him, we have a message for you. Now we know why it was you that came. There is a father here that wants to speak to you.
You helped his daughter, and the fireman fell to the ground. He was in such shock. And then once he got up from the shock and he was sobbing, he said, we want to show you something.
And he took us to a very special place where he had helped build an altar of all broken up materials of wood, where this little girl got to put up a picture of her father on this piece of wood and made an altar and wrote to her father how much she loved him because she had lost him in the fire, in the nineeleven fire. And Misha had been the one to make the altar for her. And so, this father wanted to thank him for helping his daughter.
So, we want to leave with that story because that shows how Spirit works all the time. This fireman had no idea who we were. We had no idea why we were there. That wasn't the only thing that we did, but that was one thing we could talk about that we did. So the spirit of the the little girl's father's spirit told you? Yeah. He was still stuck. Yeah. He told us to please tell Misha to thank him for helping his daughter.
Wow. And then told Misha to tell the little girl and her mother that he was ready to go, that he needed to wait to send that message to let them both know he was okay. But it's but a story like that is so uplifting, as brutal as it was also. It shows that there is a very thin veil between spirit world and human world. And we wanted to leave people with that understanding that everything we do is connected to spirit, everything. And there's always a spirit waiting for us.
As you put out your dream, a spirit is waiting to help catch it and help it grow. We are we are all working on this change of paradigm together from power and greed to one of peace and prayer and love. And we thought that would be an inspirational story for people to hear because it's something that doesn't get advertised. And we have a million stories like that, so that's why we say miracles are happening all the time. All the time. But sometimes we just don't get to see them.
So it's important for us sometimes when we get to see them and witness them for us to share them so people can have hope. Do not despair. Do not lose hope. Giving up is the problem. And our newsletter that's going out now, if people wanna join our newsletter, we give it out once a month. We also hold an international prayer circle once a month. It used to be every week for two years during the pandemic, but then it got to be a little hard to keep that up at that pace for two and a half
years. So now it's once a month. But it happens the first Thursday of every month. If you go on our website, www.mariamichael.com, you can sign up for free. It's free because prayer is free, and everybody gets a chance to pray so that everybody prays for whatever everybody else needs, and then we send out a newsletter. You can sign up under contact us to send a newsletter. There's also a GoFundMe for the reservation. We're gonna put in a plug for the reservation. They need money desperately.
They need money for chainsaws, for wood cutting. They need money for gas to go drive a hundred miles to take wood to elders and veterans that live off, you know, on dirt roads far away from main cities. We're gonna be doing an, if people are interested, we're doing a benefit with a wonderful group called Emma's Revolution, two incredible women activists who have been singing for twenty years, and they're doing a documentary on them as
well. We will do a traditional song live for the first time in public that will be, what do you call, videotaped cam you know, on the camera, because it's time. It's time for everyone to open up and be of service. And so they've asked us to open to do the land acknowledgement, to do the opening prayer and closing prayer. We're gonna give out flyers for the reservation for GoFundMe. And if you look on our website, there's a sign for the GoFundMe as well. It says we have $84,000.
That's what we have gone and earned and all you know, but it's all gone out. It's all away. And this year, we had over 10 people die and freeze to death on the reservation, on one reservation. So we need help. We need help. So visit our website and help someone. Remember, we are all privileged. If you're listening to this, you're privileged. Find a way to help someone who isn't. For those of you who are local, we
live in San Rafael. We are looking for someone to donate land so that we can have a sweat lodge so that everyone can come and pray together, whether they are binary, non binary, two spirit, all people we are all one family. So if you know if people have land where we could have a sweat lodge because people need a place to pray, we left waters behind in Colorado, and we miss it greatly. So you are welcome to come pray with us, whoever you are. Help us find the land. Is it a land that would need
to be permanent? No. It doesn't need to be permanent. It just could be on a farm. Yeah. They've we've usually had them on a farm. We used to have one in our backyard, but we had more land at that time.
But now now we've been using farms and other places, and we have a special thing that was created by a welder who donated it, who was a sundancer at one time, so that no no embers can go out, so that the fire is completely contained in all four corners by this metal structure that was all made from scraps and recycled because we were all into recycling. And so the fire is kept alive in a teepee style inside that four cornered box with four flues, so no embers can go and catch anything on fire.
So we did that in Colorado. It's waiting on that man's land, and it just needs to have someone drive it out. But they we can't drive it out because we have nowhere to store it. Okay. So the the call is the if there is someone around San Rafael, California that has land that this can happen? In an hour from here would be great. And, reach out to either myself or to doctor Michael, and let's make this happen. That would be heaven. Let's all pray together. Wouldn't that be miraculous?
Sometimes we feel when we're praying, people have said in the past, that it feels like the Inipi, which is a sweat lodge, is lifting off the ground because it has its own life. You know, it's all made with natural materials, and so it's all part of the earth. And it's such a wonderful thing to be a part of to make one from scratch with all different races. It's just so incredible. Let's get it going. We're ready. We are past ready. In the meantime,
we are doing ceremonies in Muir Woods. We've been given permission for those who want prayer, and we go to Lemon Tower a lot to do prayer. I love it. So you do, personal help for people, and then you do these group things, and people can find you doctor maria michael dot com. Yes. There are testimonials from doctors, spiritual leaders, all kinds of doctors, all kinds of clients. We have so many more that we haven't put on just because we haven't had the time to put them on.
But at least it helps you see because everybody has a completely different experience because every human is different. Right. That's good. Testimonials are good, I think. So have a peek. There's also interviews on there. We would like a copy of this interview to get it on so that we can add that onto the website. And it's just about having the time to do all this stuff in between all the protests. Thank you, grandmother.
Thank you so much, Susan, for this opportunity to be with you, to share with you, and to share with your people. And people feel free to reach us by email on our website. Our email is there. If you have questions or answers or please get out the word about our work, about getting out on the the roads. Boots on the ground is what we call it. That's right. And I'll put links on heyhumanpodcast.com as well to make it easier in case people don't remember or can't figure out how to
get to you. That that will be a way also. Thank you for listening, everybody. Thank you for listening, everyone. Bye. Have a blessed day. Bye. Rate, review, and subscribe to Hey Human wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks. Bye.