Hey, humans. Susan earth here. How's it going? This episode we have mister Brooks En, firefighter. He has great stories really interesting, interview flash come conversation. I don't know what to call them Are the interviews, not really, conversations pretty much. Anyway, we talk about all sorts of things, experiences he's had things he's seen. He talks some fire safety, a little bit everything. I wanna mention, he's if you don't already know that there is a hay human podcast dot com.
So hey, human podcast dot com where you can find lots of information in fact, I'm putting links on there every episode, with every person I speak to, I try and put links on the website that are somehow correlated with the conversation that was had on the episode. So... Anyway, blah blah blah never said about that. Let's get into the conversation with Brooks. Alright. Here we go. Brooks. Hi. How are you? Good. How are you? I'm good well. Thanks. K. So excited for hey,
humans today. We've got Brooks en and he is a fire. Isn't isn't that cool. So I thought, what Fire do. What do think. What did they like, you're the first step farm... Knowing you're the second farm that I have known. I spoken to, but really the first fire that I have spoken to more than a few, you know, short sentences like. No So how'd you get into fire manning? Well, my dad was a firefighter paramedic. Ever since I can remember I grew up in the firehouse, and,
my mom was burned really bad. Which was 5. Mh. Over 75 percent everybody. Is that how are you doing me your mom? No. They went die school together. Oh, okay. Yeah Yeah. So, yeah. She, my grandfather was burning bare leaves and a, 55 gallon barrel. Mh. And she had a polyester dress on. Then she walked out back and just got too close to it. She spent 2 years in the Burn new one's supposed to live, she's never supposed to have kids.
Shit. Having 2 kids. Why If you're burned externally, why would you not be able to have children to the trauma to the body or... Well, when you when you get burned, you know, the burns kinda go, from the outer surface your skin, and they work their way in. So you have, like, skin tightening Mh. And, her shed to have just numerous skin graft. Right? Right. So when you have all these skin graft or skin can't, they they try to allow your skin to be able to stretch again, like
a normal, but you know, Officer, sir. And she didn't have that ability for her skin to stretch. So they they just said, you know, you'll never be able to stretch enough to have any children. Oh, because the belly has to stretch. Right. Now How do Therefore, we been in secondary that we wouldn't be big enough. You know, we'd be... Prince, which I was printer true. You. Yeah. Somebody you made up for last time from. Thanks. For all of you who can't see him. He he's strapping individual.
But yeah. So shit 2 kids his sister, Katie. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Does she in fire things? Nurse. Oh, so both of you went into professions where you help people. That's very noble. Yeah. And so my dad, you know, I I grew up my earliest recollection was, being in the firehouse. And yeah just typical boy and his dad, you know? Like, velcro goes off. These guy's run out, kick their shoes off, put their ear on, Mh. Jump on the fire truck and they go screaming out the
door. Right. I mean, what little boy doesn't love that. Right? Sure. Or a little girl let's not be sexist Well you does. Sorry. Girls Too can be a fire person. And there's plenty of help. Here's a question. New. Fire women... Or is it fire woman or is it fire still? Is it, like, actors or both men and women or is it... How's does that work? I mean, they... You're just... You're a firefighter fire, You know, When... You're a... It makes sense like flight attendant.
They're not stewards and security anymore. Got it. Alright. Do I love learning stuff. Okay. So so your little kid, you're mom had been burned badly. She's she married your dad, you and your sister are born. You're like, I wanna be confirm him. Mh. Cool. Once... I went to, the Merchant Marine Academy for a short stint, thought I wanted to do business, but really my heart. I didn't. Yeah. I came back. I was... Jeez 19. And I went to Emt school because you have be an t before your paramedic.
Mh. And And those are the prerequisites to be a fire 5 person firefighter. Well, if you're a paramedic, like, the paramedics the highest trained medical. Person Sure. You know, like, in in the field. Mh. So a lot of fire departments love paramedics just because you can cross train to easily and she And they can do basically, a lot of things that doctor would do in the emergency room. So I was a paramedic and I I would right from me in t school to paramedic school.
I... You usually have to work like, for a year or 2, But I found out you go to school, they like your money. So they let me go right Like money Right. So, I was a paramedic right at 21. Okay. And I was really young, you know, and, got on the fire department I'm I'm 21 years old. I was a professional firefighter department. What you to do to take the firefighter test? Is it a written test? Is it... Yeah. Classes. All buildings It you go to classes and tic tests. And mh.
You know, get your certifications and the paramedics, the hardest. I mean, that's too that... When I went, it was 2 years, let's see. 3 days a week, and you have to do over a thousand hours of clinical. Yeah. Absolutely Fighting am fine air It's sort of like, fight the fire. Yeah. Guys fix a human, a lot of stuff in a human. Go wrong. Pretty complex. Air Yeah. Rather. Yeah Not me, but it just You never. You open me up. I'm missed a couple little gears going here.
There's a mouse in my head running really fast on a wheel. Yeah. Yeah. Shocks, doctors generally. Anyway, so you take the test. You're... Is that young for firefighter? Very. I mean, 21? In India, why was in Indiana at the time and that... So you... That was the minimum age. Mh. You couldn't be a professional firefighter fighter unless you're 21. Mh. In Indiana. So death... I was right there. Now. Tell me about the first time you had to... Well, I assume that you had,
in training. They sent you into fiery buildings. But I think the brain tells you when you're in a training situation, it knows. And so you don't have that total panic because you have people that are there, but the first time you went into an actual fire, how... What was that? Do you remember... Well, when you go... Like, when you go to the... When you get trained, the fires you, they're fires, but they're in a controlled environment.
Sure. So it it doesn't really get you prepared for an actual uncontrolled fire in a house or build, you know, commercial building or whatever. I do remember my first fire. Actually, it was it was just a story and a half house pulled up, what happened was a a kid was planted lighter in the back of the house it was a back bedroom. So you, you know, like a house she go in, there's a living room. You go down the hall. There to right. There's a kitchen, and then that bedroom was off the
kitchen. Mh. And we pull up, and there's, you know, heavy smoke going across the street, and then there's... You can see flames coming from the back of the house, and it was a good fire. Was a good job, You know, And so the captain goes up, and he takes the door. We take the door, open it, and there's just jet black, hot smoke before. Can't see anything. And are you have breast for you of all sorts of things? Yeah. You have a, yeah. It's called an
Fc self contained breathing right. So you have a mask on, you know, you're breathing air. It's not oxygen. Lot of people say an oxygen mask. But option is highly fl. So Doesn't make, you know, when making to wear something fl. No. It's just this just compressed. I never do that. Okay. Yeah. Compressed air. Okay. And you know, he he went he said, hey he'd stay right here. I was on a nozzle and that's what in in the fire department that's what you want. You wanna
be on the nozzle. Right? Is that the water thing? This is where... Yeah. Where the where the water comes out. Of garden hose have the nozzle Yeah. Yeah. But on the fire same thing nozzle. Okay. The fire service they call a pipe, you know, you wanna be the pipe man. Everybody wants to your pipe man. That's that's what it's all about. The fire up. So he says stare right here. He went around back to call the windows out in the back, don't middle late to get the hot gases
and smoke out. Right? Sure. So he came back around to the front. And he goes, alright. Let's go. And that was my baptism cherry popping the fire I went in the house and It was hot. Couldn't see. I you instantly lose your ability to see anything. You have to use your other senses. You have you really go you know, you're hearing, your feel because you can feel even on your... You know, maybe on other right side of your body. You hotter than your left side, which means the fire brother or you're
right? Sure. You can like, a campfire fire, people hear the crackling. You can hear that in fire. That's actually 1 of the things you're kinda looking for. Or here they're trying to listen for you now. Yeah. So I went down the hallway. I actually ran head first into that wall on the back backside. And then happened to look to my right, and I could see the fire licking out of that bedroom into the kitchen. And know. I was pretty amped up, and like, captain I found it. I found it, you know, and
So I spray Looking for the source. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You wanna go to the source the the seat of the fire. Yeah. So the seat of the fire wasn't the kitchen. I tell that it was, you know, on the... It was all coming from that that Ben. And so I went the kitchen, and he had never really gone into the house with me because he was trying to hump hose. So I thought he was behind me the whole time. And but like, hump free listening then don't understand what that means. He wasn't having an erotic it.
There's that means he's carrying, like, like, carrying the burden of the house. Right. Yeah. Right. Good sorry. You gotta... Yeah. Right. So he was kind of just inside the front door. So I was, like, I had crawled through this house, basically alone. And I looked back for him, and I yelled for him to to give me more hose. Right? Yeah. You know, hop more house. Yeah. And he he did it. So I knew he could
hear me. And then I got into the kitchen, and I made it to the doorway where the fire was in in the whole room, if you can imagine, it's called flash over, you know, when when when there's a fire, the the contents of the room burn. And then when everything in that room reaches its combustible point, it everything catches on fire. So It doesn't need a flame to do it It just... No. Need... I mean, there the needs a flame. The... Okay. Right. You know,
the flame burns. There's different so, like, a heat stage that it hits, and then it just goes cool. Well, everything in a room has its own combustion temperature. Like, your kitchen table will burn at this temperature. You know, the drywall burns at this temperature. But the whole room had... Was on are every inch of that room. It was hot talk about in there. Right. So I remember I I made it to the room and I went... This is the coolest fucking thing I've ever
seeing. Yeah this is this is awesome. You know, Like, this is amazing. I I... It's just something that moment, like, you can... It's gonna be a weird thought though. So you're assuming here, you're thinking. I'm in the middle of a burning house, are there people in... But you're like, this is cool because it's the little boy in knew that wanted to be Fire man. It's now in the real moment. Yeah. Yeah. And you're kinda getting, you know, the fire service, you know, doesn't matter for your
a man or woman. I mean you're you're engaged on tough, you know? Like, mental tough and physical tough, you know? And people want firefighters who can know, everybody is afraid. I don't give a shit you are. Like, if, you know, everybody has fear, but you have to be able to harness that fear. You have to tuck it away and, be able to go in and and do the job. So I got the room and I just saw for a second, and I kind of almost mesmerizing. I'm like, alright. Let's put this thing out.
And, fire went app, and that was it? You know? So it would had stayed in that room mostly how you reach the... But, it was it was working its way to the kitchen, you know? And eventually, if we would have not done nothing the house were burned But if you get the seed, the rest is easy to maintain. Like, the seat of the fire? Oh, seat I think seed in seat of the 5 then the rest is
easier to maintained. Yeah. You gotta go to the seat of the fire, you, if you if you generally, if you work your way to the seat of the fire, you can find, you know, where the fire extended to. They called extension. And I got check for extension, you know, maybe it it went up into the wall. And working its way up to the second floor during the second floor. It to get to that installation, which it burns like another. Yeah. It burns it burns it stinks and it sticks
to you and it's just nasty. But, yeah. You wanna find the seat of the fire. That's objective. So at what what rating are those suits? How... And then comparatively, how hot is there a a limit to how hot a room, a house can burn or no limit because who knows what's in there? Well, it I mean, nikki... I've been in fires that there's was a thousand degrees over my head. So, like, I... God it... I mean, that's not way an easy question to answer. I mean, you yeah know, they're There's all different.
A thousand degrees. Mh. And we did that was that was proof because we had a camera. A thermal camera on her hand that showed how hot it was at the ceiling level, and the captain put it up to the ceiling it. It was red, and it was the... Are you sweating balls and... It's a hundred pack... You automatically what without even being in a fire when when when you see a firefighter with but this gear on his helmet and his c pants and all that. And this... The the tank back.
That's a hard. Yeah. So he's automatically carry the past. So we're having even got into the fact that he's going into an environment that's like an oven, and then he's dragon house. He's searching for a victim. He's tripping over all your furniture. Yeah. You know, there may holes in the floor. I mean there's just so many variables each and there's and there's always stuff following on you. Right. I mean, there's many stories of
every firefighter they've been doing long enough. I can tell you, man and I have, like, and falling on me and knocked me to Floor. I mean those stories are just helpless. You know. You think it's just the amazing Yeah. He's definitely not the move It's real. Wow. So that was your first fire. He got it out, did it was the buoyant in side? No. Nobody was inside. In god. Unfortunately, a dog didn't make it. And breaks heart. Yeah. Me too. But you know,
unfortunately, that stuff happens. Do you keep track of how many fires you've been in? Or is that a weird? Okay. Didn't know if that was sort of something that y'all in. I did for a while. Yeah. A lot of guys do for a while, but then... About years now? Have been doing it? Well, I don't know how yards. 34. So I did, 15 years, you know, not all 15 years professionally, but a totally, you know, I started volunteering when I was 8 Yeah. So... What do they like volunteer firefighters do? They're.
The Are they fun in there? Yeah. Wow. There. Amazing. Because so you know that volunteer firefighters fight brush fires and and wildfires and things like that. And we just recently didn't we lose a bunch of those last year, finding that. Big fire. So sad. That is. It's such a noble and terrifying and horrible thing. So have you ever been badly hurt? Not badly. Hurt. Not been burned. They got... Yeah. Been burned on my hands and my neck. You know, just... Sort of apart for the
course. Is that normal? Yeah I think I think if you're a firefighter long enough Very get birth. Yeah. So I imagine... I'm not gonna speak for you. That's what you're here for. Mh. I imagine that the things you've seen are pretty intense. And I'm I'm sure you're seen beautiful things too because I was saying before we started recording that I always noticed that firefighters are the first on any scene of anything. It seems like... Mh. I'm pretty
sure that's true. Sure. It might be kind of a grand statement, but I'm almost positive. That's true. And so you probably see a lot of really wonderful and a lot of really horrible things? Definitely. So how do you deal with all that stuff? Is there firefighter therapy, and you just... You say in turn... You know, you pushed stuff down, and you put your fear away, but after a while, that can't be super happy.
For... Like, personally, you know, like, when you, like a normal family, you know, when they come home, the the parents come home cooked dinner or... And you sit at the kitchen table and you talk about your day. Right? It's a broad range of things. My conversation with my dad at the kitchen table was, you know, somebody blew their head off, that a house fire, people were trapped in it. And was all the things you would never think a kitchen... A dinner time conversation would
be. Right? Sure. So I was pretty exposed to this or as I can remember. Mh So I kinda had, you know, I think I'm, I think I'm mainly tough naturally anyways. But I was ready for when when when I got into it. And I don't have nightmares nurse. I don't. I know some people do. Blessed. I don't think I I know. Yeah. Right. And then... But I can still tell you what a woman looks like. When her husband just died, and I go tell her, you know, sure I think,
III know that look. And I've seen a look over and over in, multiple times. Or what a dead person looks like in a car, You know, it's not anything the human I ever have to see, you know. What is that due to you as a human being. Is that... I mean, to to see having seen someone die likely in your arms, I'm sure you've it's that, mh. Both as a paramedic and as a firefighter. And then seeing the other side, the life side,
the beauty. And I mean, I think there's there's sort of a, I mean, sometimes grow test, beauty and death, but death has its moments as well. To that change? I you see you grew up in that And so the everyday dinner conversation was this guy died this lady died. This person, you know, arm fell off whatever. Do you do you think that made you trans how to ask this. Did it... You wouldn't have anything to compare
it to because all you've ever known. But when you look at, like, your other friends and things who aren't in the field, do you think it's an how, like, I for lack of a better word warp to your sensibilities or made you more call or maybe made you more or or in in terms of your general life outside of what you do? Sure. And do you think your brothers and sisters in you know, in firefight fighting? How that that issue or... That's a great question though. Because I would
think seeing deaf a lot. Mh. You would then value death more do your your options really are you'll valued death more or you'll be like, a life, whatever. You what I mean? Mh. That's a good question though has ever asked me that before. I think as far as going to going to work, I don't think about this be the day that I die. You know? I don't think it really I have a lot of buddies, and I don't think that we we talk about it, but I don't think we think that way.
You know, we go to work and we don't expect to see, you know, baked cookies and flowers growing you know, when when I go to work, I expect to see bad shit. Like. Some some... This today is gonna be someone's worst day. And and whatever capacity that's gonna be, who knows. But I I don't think I I value life. I value how fragile it is. And I really honestly try to live every day the best I can be, you know, and I think of firefighters as a whole, we we do as much as we can to
you know, live it up? Yeah. It doesn't jeopardize loving relationships or friendships with that sense sort of... K Good way. Well, I mean, the relationships are hard period. Mh. Let's be honest, but if you're in a situation where even though you're not thinking today, it's going to be maybe a dad Die. Because I I don't think you you would be able to do your job. If you went in with that mentality. Right? Because and fear would sort of have taken you over.
But That being said, when you're in relationships with your family and friends and lovers, is always a possibility. So is there that sort of divide between you and another person or is it not a big deal? I'm asking, this is sort of like the cosmopolitan metropolitan mega scene section interview. Tell me out your love. How does it Is it hard to love? But, you know what I'm think it's an interesting question that's we live for. Right? So so we look
we grow up we fall in love. We sure I think it's for us, I I couldn't speak for myself, but as a it's broad, you know, all of us. I think we are naturally loving. We're naturally nurturing. Makes sense. We naturally want to help fix the problem. We fix problems. That's what we do. Every day all day, we fix problems. Right? Mh. So I don't know if that's what makes appealing to women, you know, his when so much sexy calendar. When you're when you're younger. Right? I was in a calendar a long time
ago. Was a lot though. No no. I... Ladies, he is not. He's fine for account. I I think we... You know, it's it's it's tough. I... As far as relationships go, it takes a special person to understand kind of... And they don't understand, but it takes someone special to get the fact that we go to the firehouse for 24 hours. We're not at home. So that's hard enough. Sure. You know, So you you kind of want someone is independent. Mh. That doesn't have to have us
around all the time. But yet, when we come home in the morning, and we quiet. We may not talk, is talking about as we normally are. And they could just send some not right, that they have... They're strong enough person to say what's going on. Like, talk to me, you know? I I wanna I wanna help you. I I have... And I have a lot of respect for someone that goes. I have no idea what you saw. No idea what you're going through, but I love you what I'm here for
you. Sure. And, you know, I wanna wanna just hop about it if you want to. Yeah. But yeah Just... Do you find you need personally a lot of intros intersect time after a day, after a day's work that sees Mean, I I imagine not every day is in insane. Right. I have some days where you're free. Pre chill, cats and trees. Do you have you ever pull the cat a tree? I gotta ask that 1. Come my god. Does that actually happened to you feel golden the
card? I really done. Oh, I get. Like, you know, filming someone's swimming pool, People want that. What? Yeah. Actually you know, the trucks carry a lot of water Are you for real? I say we tried to meet and a guy. We we had a call once to pull a pad out of a tree, and, okay. Well, we thought was someone's pet. Right? But it was a feral cat, And we didn't figure this out until, like, we were up in the tree in the cat obviously, feral cats not even close to you. Right?
And we found out it was a feral cat and I'm, like, puts some food at the on the tree that things gonna come down in. Like, everything is hungry. Sellers in workplace. Right? I'm Into a we into of those. I in every now and again, you know. Yeah. People appreciate that. Absolutely. So... Yeah. Mh. I remember, It I wasn't that long ago that people were in a t because people need things to be upset about about the fact that you would go the firefighter to go to the grocery store to
get their food. Mh. And people were upset that it was on company time. I was so mad of people that were mad about that. Right. And it's, like, really good. I mean cheese. Right. I mean, what what do you expect us to do, Nutty eat I exactly. Exactly. We're there for 24 hours and and people say well you sleep, well, we try to. Yeah. But if the alarm goes off you're up and up. And. I mean, our for hours hours and... Are so screwed up. Yeah. You just... You've never
hardly ever get really good nights. Even if you don't have a call in the middle of the night, you don't get that deep sleep like you would hire because you're kinda on call on your brain somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. You can criticize a lot of people's career choices but I don't know or, you know, what they do in their jobs, stealing some pens here and their, sticky notes, you know, shouldn't shoot unarmed. That's my own philosophy, but that's a whole another story.
But it's pretty hard to find fault with a firefighter My cash. Mh. I I... Like, you know, even my friends that aren't in the industry, they're loving people, obviously, you. And I'm a terrible person. But yeah. You know I I have just a a broad range of of friends, you know, and and I blend well, obviously, with the guys that, you know, the men and women that do the job. But also doing well with the people that don't. Civilians. You can call civilians. We don't mind. That's okay.
So do you have any particular anything that you've experienced that stands out to you? Oh, there's just so many. I don't Well, it's not, like, necessarily me. I mean, you know, this firefight isn't me me need my my mind. No. Of course. It's definitely a team sport. Right? Sure. And when you pull up on a fire, and it's going room... The fire, you know, really going good. Everybody has wrong job.
You know, some guy... You know, there's a guy a team of guys that go in with the nozzle with Piper and but the... You know that ahead of time? Know, Yeah. When you get to this fire, Yeah. Joe's doing this. Sarah's doing this, Bill's is doing this. Yeah. Okay. We're really good planners. Ahead of time And, yeah. And we can really... When you get there, the fire could be different times that change anything or is
it sometimes times... Okay. You know, sometimes but then again, like, we're really good at going up to a scene, whether it's a a wreck or a fire And because obviously, it's chaos, sun control. No matter what it is, and we go up and and we are the people that make those decisions to start to mitigate the situation. You know, we try to harness it and stop it from getting any worse than what it already is. Right? So we have an ability to, you know, generally, you have a a plan
that's already... You know, everybody knows. But if the plan has to change, then, you know, the boss or Captain or, you know, the cheek for whoever, who's in charge, can say, let's do this a little different. Let's go in and and do it Mh and try to try to make this situation better. Sometimes you do, you know, sometimes, doesn't wanna work on your favor. We don't like to lose. You know, firefighters don't like to lose.
We like to we like to win, you know, and it's pretty much a competitive sport. You, We're generally type, and, you know, tough. Tough. Mh. And I got friends that on Chicago fire department got friends on the new Sea. Turn and we no matter where you are. Even mean if you're a volunteer firearm. And, you know, and those guys, I feel bad for from the standpoint that volunteering. Oh, the volunteers Yeah. I mean, the guys I work with are great. They they they may be in the fields. Like,
because it from Indiana. Right? So in the middle of the farm fields. Right? And they they go out and they're in the work in the fields, and they get this call on this pager and they go when they they do the same thing I'm doing, but I'm at the firehouse waiting for it. Mh. Right? So these guys aren't getting paid per. I and they may make a little bit. But they're doing the same stuff. Sure. And yeah. What do delineate stuff alarms because I've heard things we call. Oh, that's a 5 alarm
or a poor alarm. Is that a real thing or is that? Is that a movie thing? No. That's real. That's something. So, generally, like, it depends kind of on the city structure too. Mh. Like, if you get what's called still alarm, STIL, still, Oh, that maybe be on house fire. Right? Or or May star as a small apartment. But then again, like, apartments are usually a little bit or so they may be what's called a box alarm. And all that means is, like, you get more companies, like, companies
meaning fire trucks. Showing up? Yeah. Oh, okay. On the initial dispatch. Like, if it's a still, you may get, you know, depending on the city. Every is different. But for the sake of of the story, let's just say you can get 2 engines and a ladder truck. And engines that the the truck the truck that carries the water. An engine is? Yeah. Mh. A fire engine. That's the 1 a dog. Yeah. Right. Are you all get a dog when you arrive? Those fire have dogs. That's the best?
Yeah. Usually they're dumpster dogs we take them in, but they're good dogs. Nevertheless. But yeah. And then you have a truck truck company. Like, that's the that's the piece of equipment with the ladder on top? Mh. To get to the top of the parts. That they can use people or sure. Sure. So you have the box alarm, and then that's maybe an apartment. So like, if it's if it's a box alarm, you'll get maybe 3 or 4 engines, a couple ladder
trucks. Mh. And then, you know, maybe a extra chief as a chief goes because he's like the boss, like the big boss. You're gonna have a big boss. Right? Mh But on these fire trucks, I don't have a big bus. That doesn't workout well with me. That's another podcast. But every piece of equipment like the ladder properly engine has, like, an officer on it.
Mh. You know, the officers off, then you put, like, itinerary the guy that's been the longest up in the front see because, generally can make sound decision. But then you get... So if you go to an apartment fire, and it's it's a box alone. Right? So you get all these companies going on there. The chief gets there and he goes, man this thing's getting out of control or having a hard time making the situation better. So the firearms getting bigger. Right? He'll say give me
second alarm. So then you'll have, like, maybe 2 more engines and another ladder truck and another chief come and maybe a rest... You another rescue company or, you know, because you have guys in rescue companies that their primary jobs to surf and search people. Still in the full Regalia gear. Always. Right. But they're not they're not concentrating on the fire, They're concentrating finding the people. Sure. Hopefully not bodies, but people. Right. Right.
So you have like, the Engine cutter, like I said, put the firearm. The truck company they do like, they search for for victims or they'll do any type of ventilation like, maybe cut on the roof, knockout out windows, do any enforce entry. Which like, knocking doors or, you know, 4 doors open their tools for that.
Then you know, maybe... If it's a bigger city, you had a a rescue company, and they they may do just like, the searching for victims or the chief may say, hey, grab another hose line and go in and help those guys put the fire out. Too. So it just really depends on the department where you're at in the country, and really the situation because the chief might, you know, mix up a little bit. But, yeah. So... Very interesting. Yeah. And then you can go from, like, a a second alarm, third alarm
fourth alarm, fifth alarm. They lay people in the building when it's a flat alarm? Generally, at that point, it's a defensive fire. Right? So you you you... It's... You're just those aren't very... They don't have them very often. Right? No. I mean, not every. I mean, maybe in the country, they may happen, once a month a week. I don't wanna, you know, there's big fires in the country today.
But Out don't of know the statistics, but generally if you're at AA5 alarm fire, you know, some departments called 05:11, then you'll have you'll be outside with those lines from outside. Okay. No. In the building? If you, if that you you hope. At that point. I mean, none of the firefighters are in the building. At that be hoping... Yeah. Hope not that.
Right? I mean, there's been plenty of fires where we go into and it's getting bad and the chiefs out front going we're done pull everybody out, You know, and there's a procedure where the dispatcher will do alarms on the radio and then the the guys on the fire engines will sound the aero horns and, you know, they'll they'll... That means we can hear that, and that means got billing.
So we'll leave the building and we'll transition from, like, an interior attack, that called interior attack to a defensive Mh. Exterior attack. Mh. So... You to make sure the building's nearby, do you hose those down as well to keep them from? Depends. Sure. Okay. Yeah. So I here's... This is more of a chemistry question. So when I'm building a fire at the campsite site, you've... I blow on it, to make the flames go up. So
why... If you put holes and walls to get airflow, isn't that making more fire? Can't I can't if you do it wrong. No, and and not necessarily wrong, but... You're a sorcerer. Yeah. So, like, fire generally moves up and out. And like it's a
it's a vertical and lateral travel Okay? So when we cut holes in the roof, what we wanna do is get the fire that's going up and out kind of channel to go up through the hole, and then the heat, the super heated gases and stuff, they go, you know, they travel up as well. That's why people say, if your house on fire stay on the floor because all the smoke and everything goes to the ceiling first. Right? And the banks down and starts layering as it gets worse.
So, yeah. All that super heated gas and fire and smoke goes through the hole, and then everything kind of inside lifts a little bit, You know, you may have a little bit of lift off the floor, so then it makes the heat less smoke less. Makes sense. And it makes it easier for the guys on the pipe on the engine to go and put the fire up. Yeah. Yeah. But if you if you vent wrong, then you can control basically no, not intentionally where the fire goes? You could pull the
fire actually. Toward you. What toward you this way, that way, So you kind of... There's rhyme in a reason to a a building. Is your favor movie. And of course. I knew you're I knew it was in there somewhere. So, yeah it's a very good movie. That was based off. How really? No. Off 2 brothers. Chicago. Really? Yeah. The hof brother. So I'm
interesting. Ray, Bobby. Is there a psyche valid that happens to make sure that firefighters aren't actually arson because I would think if I was an arson that would be the cream of the gene of the crop of a job. Well, let me answer your question first. Okay. Previously, I love bad draft. Yeah. Movie. About a 40 ninth good too. Oh, I don't see that 1. Yeah. So actually, 1 of the best movies slash documentaries have seen perm. I called burn. I pay on Detroit. Oh,
those guys... Those guys I have 80000 bacon buildings in Detroit, and they get fires all the time. Oh, man. So if anybody wants to see a good documentary, you can Youtube it. What awards in on? Yeah. It is. Really is. So what was your question again? III something stupid. I'm sure. So have you personally been in a situation where you thought I'm not getting out of this. Yeah. Well, so can you talk about that a little bit? And so what sort of went went through the brain pan? There was...
Let's see. Me, there were 5 of us total. It was Jeez. It was we were up late. The captain was off. The senior man was in charge charge, and there was it was 01:00 in the morning. I distinctly remembered to this day. I was actually in the living room, that I just happened at the clock, and it just hit 1. And all of a sudden, I hear a loud bang from the front door. About that time, the bells went off. If you can put 2 and 2 together pretty quick and realize some some something's going on.
So we ran down the steps, And there's people in the outside, they're yelling. There's a fire. There's a fire over there. And the distance from from the fire station. Right. Not not at the fire station are close. Right? So they're saying there's a fire. The dispatcher is actually talking now. We're running across the base. There's people actually that had stopped along the apron of the doors, and they were all banging on doors. So we knew had a fire. We didn't know it wasn't it right I told you.
So we pop the door. We opened the door to the the fire station, and we could smell it. Right? Every firefighter I know what the smells like. You know, you're going do a job. But then we... There was in a apartment building, 2 blocks away from the firehouse house. So we're driving down, and we can't see it from the firehouse, but when you pass a certain block. Can look over and just get a great shot of it and we we pull past the block and there's just black smoke.
Went out of the fourth floor of this apartment building. So so the real deal. So we pulled up, the guy that was in charge, great guy officer. Ta He's a chief today, but he said, hey, this is what we're gonna take up the hose, you know, because we knew where we're gonna go up a stair. We're not going up to the yellow we knew we wanted to stair well. So we need a lot of extra hopes. Right?
Well, when I got off, there's was a a policeman that came right to me because, there's a woman trapped on the fire for. We couldn't get up there. It's too bad, but she's out there. And so we make our way down the on there... In the whole time, there's people passing us, old people. This places... What's 01:00 in the morning on a weekend, see And there's... It's full of people. So these people are passing us we're saying.
Just keep going, keep going. You know, and we make our way around the stair well. And we get up to the to the third floor. So we get up to the steps to the fourth floor, and we can see there's smoke about. It's black jeff black, hot, accurate smoke. It's off... It's a foot off of of the floor. And as we're going up the stair it's interesting too because there are people just the
whole time. And That's back passing. Yeah. Old folks, You know, they're obviously pretty scared and So we get up there and we we get on the fourth floor. And you can barely see your hand and front your face. And we... The the plan was that me and the... The the guy that was in charge. We were gonna go find 80. We had an idea of where she was, but we didn't know exactly where she was. And then the other... Well, there were 2 guys up there because the the fifth guy was down. He was
pumping... He was on the truck directing water to the hose lines. Right? So the other 2 guys were gonna go put the fire. You know, they put the fire on finally lady. We meet up get her downstairs, get more help. We're the only 4 guys there. You know I because you've lived Yeah. We were the 2 and a half 3 blocks of land. Right? So we get up there and and the whole plan just changed recently instantly. Like back to what I say, we, you know, if you get into a situation, we're pretty good
at instantly going no plans change. This is what we're gonna do. He goes, we got all now 4 of us put this fire out. It's getting bad. That the the conditions are deteriorating rapidly. So what had happened was, we took astro extra hose up there. So what did we had done? We took the the the first set of hose up, which has a nozzle on the end. Right? That pipe I was telling you And we we we connect another section of hose
off that nozzle, you could... You can just screw it in, and then you take and you extend your hose line. Right? So we get up we get up there, and but you gotta open that nozzle, like, it's like a relay. We gotta open that nozzle for the water to go into your next hose line. Right? Well, the conditions we're getting so bad so fast. That nozzle wasn't the floor below, like, it should have been. It was on the fire floor, and
we couldn't find it. So I was you know, and and was getting hot, and then that's when he looked up and he saw a thousand degrees. And, It's getting really, really hot. And I was sort the guy name's Brett. Good guy. He He and I were looking for it. I couldn't find it. That the not. I couldn't I couldn't find... Yeah. Yeah. Because the other guys on the very, very end of the house and he's like, we're... You guys gotta find this now is get them the water in this line. And I'm like, we're trying
young... Are you on Walkie talkie? You said... Well, we could we could muffled. I mean, we could like, we had a mask on, but we could, like, We were within, like, a 10 foot radius of each other. Sure. I couldn't find it. I couldn't find it. Nia. It's just got pardon like, fuck. Like I... I'm not gonna stop I'm not gonna quit fighting this thing, but I'm not making any progress, you know, and brett somehow I don't how he did this day, but
he found it. And all of a sudden you're here just the air rushing through because there's always air that kinda rushed through the line first. He found it opened it up. And then the door got I kicked in, and we all kinda charge in his apartment, and put the fire out, you know, and then we... By that time, the air tanks, you know, it's supposed to last generally on average 30 minutes, but you're. Yeah. But but your... But that's a long time in a fire. 30 minutes in a long time.
General, you're looking, you know, depending on your breathing rate, how amped up you, you know, what's for on, you know, 15 minutes. Know, so we put fire up or got it under control, then our bottle start the t the bells and stuff on the bottle start going off, meaning we gotta go get new models. Right? So we went downstairs stairs, and there was more guys now coming upstairs to look for the lady, and then we got downstairs as a picture of us this I
have is all on the ground. People are putting new bottles and were talking. About the game plan. Well, guy gets on the radio, I found this woman. She's on the, you know, fourth floor, and she was if we you would've have met went up the stairs to the fourth floor. We went left to put the fire up the apartments to the left. She was just the right in the first apartment. She was right off the stairs, but her door was closed. Thank God. Right? And thank God the
guy that... I think god. Because when... So doors the best things to stuff to stop, you know, to to inhibit fire travel. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Doors are great. If that's why people say shut the door if you're trying to leave a fire because doors are great. Great. Stop. They won't stop it forever. Eventually, everything burns up upright. And you don't put water on it. But they were hold a fire off for a long time. You know, so this dude was pissed his girlfriend, ex girlfriend.
Pushed stuff on her stove, set that apartment in fire, but shut the doors he left, which saved a lot of people learning people dead in that place. We shut the door. Hence when we kick the door in. So he was just trying to burn his best girlfriend's apartment Yeah. On a dick. Yeah. So we... Basically he goes, hey, found a woman. So I run up and this woman was a head shoes was
a heavier set woman. Yeah. They're were obviously having trouble I met them right at the stair that on the stairs coming down from the 44I grabbed a leg. There was another down leg. No. 2 guys on an arm. She was unconscious. Yeah. She went breathing and very well all. She was dying. I mean, this this woman was in bad shape. Barely alive. So we dragged her down. I mean, it wasn't pretty but we drive her down. We rug all the way down the hallway out the front door
the ambulance... Whoever was on the ambulance came and picked her up, took her to the hospital and, yeah. She made it. She... Wow. This is the firehouse all the time. She comes in. Judy. Name's Judy. Hi, Drew. Big. Did you think you weren't gonna get out of that 1? Did. I think we talked about it after and guy was that he's a chief today he was in charge of night he goes that even the other guy, he had a lot of experience too. Lot. He's a they're
both great fire and. You know, they said, thought were done. I'm like, that were done too, but I wasn't leaving. You know, I wasn't leaving you. I wasn't leaving the fire. I wasn't leaving it. I we were just gonna keep it. I was already yeah. That was just that's is what we do. We, we're it together. You know, It's a brotherhood and burn it together. Yeah. So That was probably... That was pretty bad. Oh, glad she made it. Good judy. Thank you. Yeah. And I hope that guy is now in prison.
I don't remember. I'm sure he is. I mean, if you no. I mean, if they knew he was everything. I don't know if he's still in prison, but I'm pretty sure he went there for Yeah. That's the shift. Today when dying that. Not 1 person. Oh, got bless. Awesome. So Awesome. Thank you. I mean it's funny. They would say when you see a service man or woman in the military, and she go up in make them. It it seems to me police environment deserve our things just as much.
Definitely. Sound. Yeah. Definitely I think. It's sort of like the un the un sum heroes really. Mh. I mean, every single day you're going out there, and you're doing this stuff. And regular folk like me. Don't really think about it. You don't think about the fire fire persons Unless you see him at the grocery store and home buy up dinner and like, hey, what's up, but it... I don't know. It's it's that weird sort of thing about. That service, that branch of service. Mh. Is it considered
like? Well, it's paramilitary Paramilitary? Yeah. There's a lot of that values. It's not the military military. Okay. But we follow a lot of the military, like, code ethics entire, you know, there's rank and structure, chain command and and all that stuff, you know, and Yeah. You know, you don't know, would you see a fire or policeman paramedic or Emt? It then too. They definitely may out. Yeah. Not ambulance drivers. I have some very dear friends who are,
flight nurses. Mh. And and regular hospital nurses. I mean, they... Man, that's a heck of a job. Sure. I don't know when you people sleep for god's sakes. Think there's no sleep whenever... Try to. Amazing that you can do what you do. The adrenaline levels must just be through the roof. Yeah. Get pretty amped up sometimes. But for me, like, it's... Do yoga or meditation? Yoga is actually awesome. Yeah. I I love Cor
yoga, like, just from a stretching standpoint. Like, you, you know, just to keep your your muscles and everything stretched out. I love it. Really give guys. What about your mind though? I mean, I know I keep bringing this up, but do you go through this stuff day after day after day and experiences and not have your mind just sort of say, excuse me, but this is sort of fucked up man There you go. Yeah. How do you find your happy place? How do you
at zen with it all. And I mean, it's just so matter of fact for you at this point? Or I mean do you ever break down and cry? Know you're, you know, manly man. You've got a beard and everything, but you're a human being. I mean, I imagine some the kids. I mean, you see everything. You probably see people at their words stand their best as do police officers, but I mean... Right. Yeah. How can... I mean, how could you not? I have... I went to a ones where. Mean, same well guys I was I fired with
actually. He's a captain at this point. And 2 guys on the ambulance before us. What had happened was, grandfather and grandmother drove from Wisconsin to Indianapolis, which is the high picked up 3 their grandkids, and they age they range from cheese, maybe, 9 to 14, and they were going to the place where I'm from, you know, and there's a amusement park there. So you go from the the to Wisconsin. Down to Indy, an hour and a half north of Indy, you know, and and that's
a hike for anybody. So now throw we own elderly person on top of that. That's in the summer, all day driving. You know. So he was tired. And he was 2 miles from town 2 miles. And I came around a corner, and he fell asleep, and he had a truck had on. Jeez and we just started watching a movie, like, it was a beautiful summer. And, you know, the the bell goes off for for a rack. Generally, like, if you get a really bad rack, like, the dispatcher when you're en route to
the wreck. They they'll come back and go, there might be people dead here, you know, they have verbiage for it, but, basically, that's what they're saying. Bad, blah blah, blah, blah. Like, there wasn't a word. Like, there wasn't a word, and it was a little bit of a drive. And we pulled up. And the car hit the trucks so hard. The back tires the car off the ground. And we pull up I pulled up right next to car, the guy the truck fine walking around.
And I could see when I was in the truck, I pulled up I could see the I could see someone on the back and see the woman in the passenger's seat, she looked dead. And, I remember saying to Steve, the captain and I said, this is a bad 1. And he goes. Yeah. It really is. And so he jumped out. I jumped out, and I went around... I felt for a pulse from a kid in the back. Not something he was dead.
Once the woman, the grandma, I can I can only get to her neck up because she was pinned, the dashboard and everything came in on top of her dad? So rather running inside the car. I could see corridor the the back corridor was open, the rear driver's side. And by that time, 1 of these new he was a newer paramedic great guy. He comes to run up me, and he goes. The driver... He's he's he's barely live gotta get him out. And cut him out. He's gonna die.
And I walked... I said, hold on. I walked from the car and the guy was actively dying and the steering wheel, if you could imagine, Don't know if you can imagine this people listening, but we he had this, you know, obviously driving with his hands. And he hit the steering was so hard was chest that the the the part you hold Your hand was bent. Both sides bent completely back around. And he his chest was kind of sitting up against the part we hon the horn or the
airbag would come out. Airbag did come out, but obviously we didn't do anything. But... So obviously, that's pretty significant hit. And he was... Internally. Yeah. Bleeding internally in his chest. Sure. And I said, and he was pinned the car? I said he's gonna die I make it. Who do we have this a lot who do we have it's viable. And he said there's 2 kids back behind the car, and some bystanders standard have pulled them out that, you know, Are you supposed to do that? Not supposed to do that?
I've heard... You know, you know, it's there's a lot of variables to it. Generally speaking, it's not the best idea, but I don't want people to hear me say, well, he said not to pull them out. Right. But the car on fire. Right. I mean, you know, We're very, you know, use some common sense, for. Someone had done it. They they laid the girl on the ground. And I and I remember I walked around the corridor where I couldn't see her, but I... When I walked around the car slew like tin year girl.
And her lips were blue is a sm, and she was pasty pale. And, and I remember saying her dissect. I mean, they have a general appearance like, She's just blood curling, like screams for mom, like she mom just there was was intense. And I said, gotta get her to a trauma center. And she needs a trauma pediatric trauma surgeon. Her brother was behind her, the other brother, and he was messed up, but he wasn't dying. So they get her in the ambulance once, they get going to the hospital.
I stay back and cut the dead people out of the car. And bang them mouth, and so then the doctor told us that that little girl screamed for her mother, the entire time room That's all she said. Didn't say anything else. Or baby. The surgeon said she was screaming for mother. She goes into surgery. Get her out of surgery. She's in recovery. She wakes up enough to scream for her mother again. Her mother walks in the room says baby I'm here for you I'm here.
I'm here. Long me here and she dies instantly. So and did shit like that. I mean, how do you... But this is just... This is just my story. You know, Like, there's firefighters paramedics policeman, there's people like this everywhere in the country the world that have stores like this. You know, like, this is just shit in my eyes have seen. That's not... That's such a heavy soul moment. Yeah. You know, the little girl no... Like, some part of her, like, this is
it for me. I wanna see my mom in last time. And then when she had that, she was able to like oh. I mean, jeez. It's the almost the only thing in an unbearable situation that can bring any sort of peace. I a do you believe in a higher park or... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I... You know, Nothing you have to. Right. I mean, No. I do. All all the people, you know, that I've taken to the hospital. Like, especially the cancer, patients just dealing with them.
Don't look at you and they'll stay I'm tired, you know, like, the civilian mako for this a ton of times. Like, oh, take a nap, get some rest. That's something me. They're tired of living. Yeah. Who done. Yeah. They just went in. And I know exactly what they mean. They want the morphine train. There. So yeah, I do. I do. And, you know, there's a lot of, I've met people that have, you know, I'm seen things and Yeah. Whether someone believes in it or not, it gives me comfort to believe in not.
Sure. Right. So I know after all the batch shit I've seen in the service that the way I've tried to help people that, you know, hopefully the gates are pearl and All good. No fire anywhere. So for people listening, And I know I'm curious. What it's probably 1 of the top causes of residential issues. Where somebody could do so to sort of protect themselves a little bit better not being idiot. Like, what where you said, what's the top cost for residential fires?
What depends where you're at? And what neighbor you live in? Oh, really. Yeah. Detroit, they have like, I think, 5 classifications for Arsenal alone. Oh, it's so sad. Really. So, yeah. It just depends. You know, like, general, you could look at this point. You Detroit and stop bringing down. You can look at it as arson, electrical, some sort of accidental kid playing with life Sure. So yeah, You can look at it and, you know, those... Best chance of survival get on floor shut the door? What?
Rat getting the bathtub and me if you can put the water on on? I think the best thing for me that best advice I could give would be to 1 pre plan. Right. Oh, yeah. Sure. Have pre, like, the designed area outside where your family can go if there's a fire no house, we're all gonna try to meet at the big tree in the front yard. I don't think people do that very often to do that. No. Have of plan. No. And you need to talk about it.
You need to you need to have all this shit figured out before it actually happens. Right? So you had need to have a plan where you're gonna meet and, change your batteries in your smoke detector every 6 months. People with time change that's easy because they just recommend doing it when the time goes forward or backwards. Right? Sure. And if you do, shut... If you are in a in a house and you can't, you know, second floor or something, and you can't get down of the first floor.
Shut the door to the room, separate yourself from the hallway, like, make sure you shut the door, put towel in the door, the bottom. State blanket or something? Anything. Just to just to close the crack of that door, You know? Generally, a wet towel, a damp towel, but you may not have a mask right there. Sorry. So... European people. Yeah. So you... It's gonna save your life. What's save of your guys, life, Urine in? You're in, j and luck, but, you know, thank in luck. Oh my god.
So to help people. Yeah. Really I'm trying to help you. I'm totally I may get a d shirt. You're in luck. You're in luck. Oh, yeah. But, you know, bang on the window, bang on the the, you know, make yourself known, You know, however you can. You wanna try to obviously get out of the house. But if you can't get out the house. Do you see know that you're there? They're an owner you're in there? Don't stop for the family heir rooms. Yeah. Don't. And get a lot do people do
that. Oh, yeah. Like, people They'll run out. Let's cell people die the most common way. They run out. Realize, oh, my god. I forgot, you know, brewers the dog. And they're like, I run back the run back in the die. Yeah. And I could understand wanting to run ne to an animal. That makes sense. I'm at in an an ina object. Not that I'm advocating running it after your animal, but I'm just saying that I can understand when people do that. Sure.
Sure. But you the, you know, I think that's the only thing really try to get out the else if you can't get out of the house pee everywhere. Pee a lot. Like, drinking a lot of water. That's is why you drink water every. You hydrated. Yeah. So, yeah, you know, put... For girls, you know, you too can be standing up with direction. It just takes a little practice, just saying. That's true. Yeah everybody police fire in this. Fire Ems? Police fire And Ems, whether you're Paramedic.
People should keep in mind that. You know, if you see him at the store. Oh, yeah you see him out in and about. Say thanks. Say thanks because a half an hour before that, there could have been you know, picking a dead person up off the road or, you. Seeing something that no one's Eye I should ever see. Right. And people don't think about that. I just look at it for what it is. You know, And now. But I, we've been talking about bad stuff.
I've seen a lot of great stuff too, like I had a woman once that this is a good story. This is a pretty... I'll be the judge of that. Okay. I think you'll like it. But she, we got a call fucking an unknown problem, and me another guy go out there. And I... We got in the driveway, and I and I looked... And, like, there's a car, the driveway with the driver's door wide open, and the cars like kinda radically parked driving 1 that odd. I just, you know, common sense. That's just odd. Yeah.
So the garage door was opened. So I said, go in the house once you go the front door and we'll see what's going on. Like on the house, there's this elderly man. I mean, he was at the a time. This is years ago. He was old. And he was watching Jeopardy, and he had it on, like, full till, like... And he didn't even like turned to see the stranger than house. He just cat jeopardy. It's probably double jeopardy. It probably was. Yeah. So he goes... Important stuff. So I got
site. I look over on on the other side of the kitchen counter, and there's a woman, not breed with the phone in her hand, the phone is in her hand, and she's on the ground, and she had no pulse. So she's clearly dead. And some... Alright. Well, like, start Cpr, so we we're doing Cpr, and I and I looked in the back we're throat with a piece of equipment, and I and I looked in the throat, I remember like, this woman choked to death. Like, there's ham
all over the back of her throat. So I put a breathing tube in her throat. Know, gave her some oxygen for a little bit, and she started... She didn't totally wake up, but she started improving vastly. So she must have I've been down mom? No. Not at all. No. She went down long. Yeah. You know. And how should you go they're You to... Well, 10 minutes is when start having... If you have no oxygen in your brain for 10 minutes, then you start having irreversible brain. And you become a politician.
Yeah. Lot of different podcasts here today. Like, we're gonna be like, we got a month's more of material. So yes. She started kinda coming around and and so like, what I gave her some medicine to make her go to sleep to you comfortable. And right before I did, I said, if I'm breathing for you, don't know what happened with you, but I think you choked on ham, but if you understand what I'm saying blink twice, and she went twice...
Okay. I'm gonna put... Give you somebody medicine to go to sleep, and you're wake up a little bit later, but that's what we're gonna do right now. And because she started kinda waking up with a tube thrown. That's just trying to yell out the jeopardy answer. Right. No. Right. Get her out. I'll take what the fuck for 1000. So she goes, we get her the able to go to the hospital. And I and I dropped her off, and I come back about an hour later, and she's sitting up in bed, like, you and Right now.
We're not in bed people. Oh, that. Like not. Yeah. Let's let's create guys. She was in a hospital bed. We're to kitchen table. Big difference. So, but she goes, yeah. My chest is kinda sore and I'm like, hey, listen, what exactly happened, and she said, I was eating a ham sandwich, and I start choking I pulled the driveway ran out of my car, and went to down 1, but I couldn't speak. She had total airway occlusion. Right? And then she just doesn't remember what happened
after that. So But I said, who was the guy watch jeopardy. I think we all wanna know that. In the living room. And she's like, oh, I'm I'm his caregiver? And I'm like, that guy never ever even turned his head. While you guys are working on him? That once? He didn't? Did he know? Was he that? He... He had no straighten like 5, 6 strangers in his house Like, 10 feet behind him. How would you... You know? It's like a really horrifying Snl skin.
I'm like, yeah. You know? I'm like, hey, It looks like today we got the daily double, and we got the final question. Right? Oh my god. So so forward 2 years later. My uncle call goes, hey. I'm going to a party tonight. My friends, would you guys come? I'm saying, sure. Was a man and his wife so we're sitting out, you know, having a couple drinks talking about whatever they doing fire and they're they're going she does, of course, everybody always does. Like,
what's the craziest thing you've seen? And I don't like to talk about it. You know, this isn't like about me This is... It's us. Like... Sure. It's a tomb sport. Still I me do have stories. It's okay. Something like thinking... Okay. I, what's the story to tell had a good ending, you know, I'm like, I'll tell the jump play story. It's great ending. Tell the whole story I just told you. At the end, she goes. Was her name such and such? And sydney. Yeah. She's like, that's my mom. No way.
Swear got true story. Weird. Gosh she's that's my mom. It's sharp crying. Yeah. We're still friends this day. Know, That's the awesome. And they end up bringing her mom to the awards banquet went when all of us got recognized for that call. Yeah. Did you deserve ham? Now I hand was off a many That all go you gonna eat. Bites. Can't chew your food. Right? Like... Thank you so Much. Is there anything else you wanna talk about, but my
I mean, I put any questions jeff? How long does it take you to grow that full beard in mustache? You know it's epic. Like, like, 7 days. Yeah. You're fuzzy dude. Thanks. Genetics. Yeah. There's a bear ladies. Thank you so much Brooks for being on. Hey you, and I really appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate it. Was it was I didn't know what to expect, but it was nice. Really it's awesome. But those of you who are interested to ground and hit the extra content for for more from Brooks.
Everybody thanked a firefighter policeman as an Emt and a paramedic. Thanks for listening, and Hope appreciate it. I. I know I did. Now this since we're bed together and all. Yeah. I no doubt. Cheese eating ham.