The Dorx record the day after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which happens to be the 24th anniversary of the World Trade Center attacks. We reminisce about 9-11-01: where we were, how we felt, how we’ve changed since. Then we discuss the current climate of political violence, comparing the reaction to Kirk’s death to that of George Floyd’s. Then Cori edits out 18 minutes about people denouncing him online, because it’s Rosh Hashanah and why carry resentments into the new year? So suddenly yo...
Sep 23, 2025•39 min
The Dorx discuss Robin/Robert Westman , the psychotic Minneapolis Catholic school shooter. Was he left-wing or right-wing? Does trans ideology cause psychosis, or is it just coincidental? What is the difference between racism and white nationalism? Do women owe the world reproductive labor? What might happen to Cori as the political wrecking-ball pendulum keeps swinging rightward? Was the Unicorn Ranch llamas or alpacas? Plus: Cori insists trannies are a class but TERFs are not, because he doesn...
Sep 03, 2025•1 hr 10 min
You may recognize Katie Herzog’s journalism and podcasting , but did you also know she’s soon-to-be famous for her alcoholism? For years she hid it from the world and her exceptionally gullible wife, but now she tells all in a new book which even longtime twelve-stepper Nina finds persuasive. Can you quit booze while happily retaining your character defects? What is Naltrexone ? Does everyone get a “buzz” from drinking? Does Nina get pleasure from anything? Plus: amusing recollections of drunken...
Aug 22, 2025•1 hr 20 min
Cori and Nina chit-chat about things that have nothing to do with gender: heat indices, ducktails, cat poop , impermanence, Hulk Hogan , Conway’s Game of Life , Michigan in the summer , Permethrin , online shopping, Spaceballs , elephants, and The Book of Job . But other topics in our wandering conversation are inevitably related to gender: Psycho , synthetic blue velvet dresses , hijabs, and a recently-deceased poet . As always, we ask the important questions: Why would God create mosquitoes? D...
Aug 14, 2025•1 hr 4 min
Cori returns from San Francisco with brief tales of the Endocrine Society before launching into crazy population projections (AGAIN) and then making some rather provocative arguments. What are Human Rights? Can children consent to irreversible decisions? Is the individual the most important unit of society? Are women never competent? Has Cori been wearing Nina down for an hour and a half, or just an hour? Despite still grieving her cat , Nina does a good job arguing right back and the resulting ...
Jul 24, 2025•1 hr 13 min
Cori speaks at the European Society for Child & Adolescent Psychiatry conference, then returns home to find degenerates everywhere. Meanwhile, Nina’s beloved cat dies . Cori calls out a “Protect the Dolls” campaign ; Nina’s lungs improve . Cori has to clean up human feces in his yard; Nina wears a dress. Cori gets into pronatalism and blames Nina for western collapse; Nina sighs. Plus: pain au chocolat , lazy consonants, TSA shoes , cannabinoids, sanitariums, and yelling at clouds. Links: Eu...
Jul 16, 2025•57 min
On June 18 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled on US v. Skrmetti , deciding whether a Tennessee law prohibiting certain medical interventions on youngsters violates the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. The Hon. Elspeth Cypher (ret.) a.k.a. Judge TERF joins the Dorx to dissect the case, the decision, the concurrences, and the dissents. Which concurrence is best, Thomas’s or Barrett’s? Does Justice Sotomayor suffer from pathological empathy? If Skrmetti were a pasta, what ty...
Jun 24, 2025•1 hr 23 min
How old is Cori? Will the NYT podcast The Protocol change minds? Is there any competence in the Trump administration? Why is Nina’s cat pooping on the floor? These questions and more are asked, but not entirely answered, as we move in and out of the fetal position, name-drop various GC power players, and read aloud comments from another podcast’s subreddit. Important note: Cori is COMPLETELY WRONG about last week’s timeline: Nina wrote about her cat 2 days after we recorded last time. Is his mud...
Jun 19, 2025•1 hr 1 min
The Young Generation (Cori) reaches out to the Old Generation (Nina) and exhibits patience while pretending to listen to geezer tales of things that go wrong with body parts and the SSDI Blue Book . Then we get into the hip, happenin’, swingin’ NOW with the latest news on gay martyrs , fake martyrs , and trans martyrs. Nina consents to Cori’s exposition on immigration, and somehow gets stuck comparing illiberal policy to her Junior High school cafeteria. Plus: tribal identities, Cori’s synagogue...
Jun 11, 2025•1 hr 4 min
Cori is almost 50, and Nina is 57 going on 80. We discuss bronchiectasis , health hazards, witchcraft, hypertonic saline, nebulizers, oxygen monitors, IQ tests, lifesaving gender-denying healthcare, pulmonology, and being a delicate flower. Cori gives a speech , doesn’t quit his job, and asks: at what age did we become adults? Why was he kicked out of his mom’s house at age 17? How do you pronounce ‘ syncytial ’? Covid may have taken decades off Nina’s life, but this episode will take less than ...
May 28, 2025•59 min
After several conversations about antidepressants, the Dorx welcome back pediatrician Dr. Julia Mason , who prescribes Selective Seretonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) to young people. Do we even know what these drugs do to developing brains? How do antidepressants compare with “gender-affirming care”? Does Barlean’s Fish Oil really taste like lemon custard? We also talk about myelnation , the distress of youth, the parasympathetic nervous system, neurotransmitters, immunosuppression , social cos...
May 01, 2025•1 hr 26 min
Cori is a hard-working corporate employee who dutifully contributes to America’s tax base. Nina is a low-income artist with Crohn’s Disease whose medical expenses make her a net parasite, despite also paying taxes. After a surprise performance of improvised music by soda-can virtuoso Cori, we discuss tariffs, security, Medicaid, FICA, “maxing out contributions,” Incidence of Taxation, employment benefits, monetary incentives, distortions, the Tragedy of the Commons , suckers, rationalizations, p...
Apr 18, 2025•1 hr 33 min
Cori travels from statehouse to statehouse to testify against the worst excesses of gender ideology, while Nina gets sick for a month and loses her voice and relevance. Cori shares news from New Hampshire, where heterodox Democrat Jonah Wheeler is subject to a struggle session; Nina shares about watching television and playing Lexulous. Our lives couldn’t be more different, but we come back together to argue about AI art, neurodivergence, diagnosis skepticism, the attention economy, and ice crea...
Apr 11, 2025•1 hr 14 min
Following up on our June 2021 episode What If We Win? the Dorx ask whether we have won the gender wars yet. While discussing weak arguments, bad journalism, wrong pronouns, diversity of tactics, tolerance, metallurgy, the responsibility of power, and Cori’s “boys,” still more questions arise: Why are people who know better still referring to men as women? Who coddles the coddlers? Is a Liberal’s true authentic self an Authoritarian? How do you pronounce “Maori”? Listen to this episode for answer...
Mar 27, 2025•55 min
Cori suddenly pivots to surprise Nina with an unexpected interview about her lifelong mental health affliction and the medication she takes to manage it. What is the difference between grief and depression? Should you “feel your feelings” when your feelings are broken? What is serotonin? Which is a better theory of the brain: etchings or bike gears? We know very little about brains, which raises another question: can we talk to an SSRI expert? This is actually a pretty good discussion about depr...
Mar 12, 2025•42 min
More than what you ever needed to know about Cori’s breasts! Are they real? Are they implants? Are they gynecomastia? Whatever you call them (Cori calls them “the Boys”) they never fail to upset certain people on Twitter . Plus: Cori’s sweater, Cori’s scarf, Cori’s weight, Cori’s latest testimony at the Indiana Statehouse, Cori’s political opponents, and — as if that weren’t enough — Cori’s conversion to Judaism! We broke this episode in two because Part Two is about something completely differe...
Mar 12, 2025•46 min
A founding editor of online magazine Queer Majority , Rio Veradonir advocates “an inclusive vision of queerness grounded in the liberal value of universal human rights, rather than identity politics.” We discuss liberalism, anti-liberalism, the gay press, extremism in media, neo-marxism, critical social justice, legitimate vs made-up oppression, population politics , the right to hurt yourself, the distribution of mens’ IQs, and, most importantly, pegging. Nina argues against surrogacy, Cori sha...
Feb 26, 2025•1 hr 9 min
Cori and Nina endure 2 hours of neo-religious propaganda so you don’t have to. Instead, you must endure 20 minutes of Nina attempting to recall plot points while Cori complains how long it’s taking. Are the characters flat, or nuanced? Is the movie merely terrible, or does it have cult classic potential? Is the director cleverer than we give him credit for? How much can the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences humiliate itself? Cori eventually talks himself into giving two thumbs up for “...
Feb 14, 2025•50 min
Cori and Nina take turns reading aloud Trump’s Executive Order 14168 : Defending Women from Gender Identity Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government , commenting on every section. You won’t get a deeper analysis than ours, although you must endure Cori’s over-dramatic reading voice and the hosts’ occasional bickering. Links: Executive Order 14168 : Defending Women from Gender Identity Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government : https://www.white...
Feb 08, 2025•1 hr 11 min
Remember the Free and Open Internet? Tech journalist Bryan Lunduke does, and isn’t afraid to write about its demise one institutional capture at a time. We discuss having our hearts broken by our beloved Internet Archive ; the Wikipedia Foundation ’s shady dealings; the Electronic Frontier Foundation ’s championing “the right for little children to look at porn on the internet”; and Mozilla ’s “Feminist decolonial lgbtqia+ climate justice using AI event in Zambia.” Like any good journalists, we ...
Jan 30, 2025•1 hr 32 min
Cori and Nina “deform” a flag and it goes viral for a few seconds, thanks to the outrage of self-diagnosed autists. But hysterical online denunciations aren’t what they used to be, especially when you identify as an A*****e , as Nina now does to treat her kindness dysphoria . Many questions arise about Cori: how human is he? Will he sue his “healthcare providers”? Would he have died sooner if he hadn’t transed? Will he convert to Judaism? In sadder news, we mourn the passing of Cori’s cat, Harle...
Jan 23, 2025•1 hr 1 min
Lawyer and unyielding bicyclist Glenna Goldis knows the law, knows how to write, and knows women are female (ask her how!). After she describes her fancy road bike, and Nina lists her many recumbents, we move on to The US vs Skrmetti (also discussed here ). Plus: cocaine, harm reduction, biker bars, the ACLU, propaganda, men in women’s prisons, “improper housing,” cults, academics, clergy, saviors, honor court, gay marriage, SOGI, judge trainings, and the nascent Gender Critical Law Society . Go...
Jan 16, 2025•1 hr 19 min
Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria ( ROGD ) is a family disease, affecting not only “trans kids” but parents and siblings too. Therapist, coach, consultant, and educator Stephanie Winn returns to Heterodorx to illuminate some of the hazards parents and other family members navigate: victimhood as identity, drama triangles, destabilization, enabling secondary gain, estrangement, extreme defensiveness, exacerbating relationship difficulties, “game-able heuristics”, and the trifecta of social contagion. ...
Dec 27, 2024•1 hr 11 min
AI Art Director, amateur comedian, band-aid specialist, DEI hire, and street researcher Chris Waites returns to Heterodorx — now with 10% more white! After disclosing some shattering news from 23&Me, Chris shares his expertise on AI generated visual art (please follow along on his Instagram page ). Is AI art actually art? Does it threaten human art jobs? What are the differences between models such as Midjourney and DALL-E? Are there hot redheaded men? Is AI a tool, or a medium? Why can’t AI...
Dec 17, 2024•1 hr 36 min
Retired MA High Court Justice & WoLF legal powerhouse Elspeth Cypher returns to Heterodorx to discuss US v. Skrmetti , the Supreme Court case that could change the pediatric gender-industrial complex forever. Nina gives a “pedestrian viewpoint” of the hearing before superior legal minds Elspeth and Cori discuss solicitor generals, attorney generals, constitutional chaos, differentiation, discrimination, Dobbs, Loving, quasi-suspect vs full suspect classification, the equal protection clause,...
Dec 07, 2024•1 hr 22 min
Still on the path to conversion, Corinna updates us on his latest “Jew lessons” and why he kept the surname Cohn instead of anglicizing it to something like SparkleTree. We discuss the loss of oppression points for being Jewish; super-circumcision; antisemitism; and maybe visiting Israel someday. Meanwhile, Nina earns a subsistence wage sewing gloves , endures a Skyrizi On-Body Injector malfunction, talks to a robot, and looks like a grandma. Then we discuss Bluesky ’s authoritarian moderation p...
Nov 25, 2024•1 hr 7 min
Nina scrutinizes Cori’s Jewish pedigree and flaunts her own, while Cori compares Nina to Hitler and Kamala Harris to baloney. Then we discuss last week’s American presidential election! The suspense was killing us, but now we know who won (spoiler alert!) so we can stop compulsively checking our phones and breathe a sigh of relief and/or deranged terror. Cori reviews his history of voting Libertarian, dispenses advice for Democrats, bemoans his neighborhood Kroger, and warns, “all this hyperbole...
Nov 14, 2024•1 hr 7 min
Nina’s social anxiety disorder impedes proper maintenance of her bicycles, while Corinna’s anti-social disorder compels him to empty an entire canister of dad jokes into the podcast. Are pronouns passé? What is the word for lonely bereaved former cat owners? How much can you round up pi? Plus Nina announces a significant lifestyle change, and shares intimate details about Judge TERF . Don’t forget to leave us a 5-star review unless one of us isn’t wearing a bra, and be sure to smash that “like” ...
Nov 04, 2024•48 min
What happens when a butch lesbian who’s been on testosterone 18 years realizes she wants back into womanhood? Whatever it is, prepare for a tidal wave of masculinized women about to do the same. Can women accept women who look like men as their own? How many masculine visual cues (facial hair, baldness) can/will/should other women tolerate? Is this uncomfortable liminal situation the fault of (de)transitioners themselves, or is it everyone’s problem now? Aaron Kimberly discusses her own experien...
Oct 30, 2024•1 hr 24 min
The Dorx experience a proliferation of Cories as behavioral scientist Cory Clark shares fascinating observations about victimhood strategies, punishment, tribes, norms, taboos, hyper-cautious conformity, the ambition of academics, scrutiny of unpopular papers, self-censorship, socially costly beliefs, tenure, reputational threats, and socially desirable empirical conclusions that turn out not to be true. Nina signals her victim status as a canceled artist while morally judging cowards; Cori (Coh...
Oct 21, 2024•1 hr 16 min
