The Money Man Behind America's Biggest Concerts

my guest today. They're among the most famous names in music, still packing the biggest halls and arenas around the world, in no small part due to their frequent concert promoter, Ron Delsoner. Delsoner is a working class kid from Queens who rode his charm and his hustle all the way to the top of the music industry. In fact, he

may be the biggest concert promoter of all time. Delsoner basically created the genre of massive outdoor concerts, starting with his series at Wolman Rink in nineteen sixty seven and growing into the epic free concerts in the park for those he got all the names, Pavaratti, streisand even post breakup Simon and Garfunkel, one of the most attended musical performances of all time. When Delsoner put it on in one you can feel the excitement of a half a

million people. Promoting is a complicated job. You're booking talent and securing venues. You're setting ticket prices and marketing the show. Musicians have to trust you, venues have to fear you. Plus it's risky. Promoters can lose their shirts. They're the ones putting up the money for marketing and whatever they've promised the talent they pay. Doesn't matter how many tickets get sold. It requires nerves of steel. You booked the biggest acts in the business for many, many years, for

many many years. Most of these people have what we call the artist's temperaments. What how do you, wonderful people? How do you deal with the artist's temperament? Well, I got screwed up a few times on this. Should I mention names? You know? You don't have to. You can just say, as an example, to describe someone you don't

have the name, You name the name of people. It was a Miami Sound Machine show, glorious Tefan, I didn't say that what you did it might have been it might have been Shakira or what did you say, Miami Stamus? We know what we know what's not shak You very hip. I can see that. And so it had rained and the rain stopped, and there was rain of shining the tickets in this about two thousand people going, Hey, open

the doors. I said, well, let's go, you're on. Her husband comes over, a nice guy, says, she absolutely will not go on. There is electricity in there, and she might get electrical. I said, let me tell you someut there. I will put a hose down my mouth and stick a microphone up my anus, put water around me, and I will not get electric She never fucking talks to me again. She does the show and I walk home, I take a taxi. I sent her an umbrella, you know,

after that, to make peace and lo and behold. About three or four years later, I get invited to Whitton Houston's house when she was marrying Bobby Brown, nice place in Jersey. Sitting right next to me, Gloria yesterfun and excuse me, are you know? I'm so sorry? Did you get the umbrellas? I never want to work with you again, Marlina Dietrich said to me once, to you, what in hell? Mr Dolsta, But do you feel that there's I mean, I don't want to beat this to death, but it's

like the horse whisper. Are you the rock star whisper? Do you know what to say to get them to kind of calm down and get out there? And very big part of what your job is every day. Even this morning, I got to go off from a guy and he's panicking, and I want to mention his name is terrific guy. He's on a boat with his family. What are we gonna do about poor Anka? I said, well, I didn't book the show. A kid in my office did.

But I'm gonna take care of it. Well, poorl Anka wanted to not play because there's only two hundred seats sold. What's earlier? You know, I've got a while and the guy's getting a lot of money. And the guy says to me, well, I can't pay him. He wanted fifty thousand bucks not to play. I said, I've been in your position before. I'm gonna try to straighten it out.

After I leave you, I'm gonna have to track down the Asian for poor Anco or the manager and explain to him we only sell a few amount of seats, so how do we work it out. I'll give you a date someplace else for that one. Please play the show for fifty so we break even with two hundred seats and I get pulling the other day. So you have to be a diplomat where most people aren't this. They don't know how enough. But after you learn this, as you do in your cryft, how to make everybody happy,

sit down at the table. Not it's this way, we're gonna bomb you. You're gonna see fire and fear. We're gonna burn your house and your kids and the dog. I don't do that. You can't do that. You grew up in was in the cosmetics business. When did music music enter your life? When did you sit Chuck Berry rock and roll, stuff like that, Let's pull and Mary Ford Capitol Records on a purple label all day long. They were amazing. I met lest Pall when it was ninety.

That was the first time he had over dubbing with an echo the Count Basie band. I would go see him at Birdland two dollars to go downstairs and sit behind the piano. You sit there for two bucks. I bring my friends. I pretend I was Sonata, I called somebody else Dean and the other guy I was saying, I mean it was sit there for two, three or four sets, and uh I stepped tap Basie on the bags. Mr Basie was like, I like to buy a drink. Okay,

what do you drink? Leaf? Brown oak? That cheap? And later on when my I played him at a club I had on forty forty four Street, which is the Hudson Theater, which is down with famous theater. But that's what Steve Allen did his first show. And I first band I ever put in there was the ba Yeah for a year until I went bankrupt. I put him and he came out in a wheel chair and played the piano. I had. We called Mother's Day Dance. You bring your mother for Mother's Day. Count Basie Band, the

original original band, the Count himself. I love him. I got a big picture of him and my black and white right. He was the greatest that bend These kids today. If they heard this music, maybe we can turn them around. But they don't. They don't play it on the radio. You gotta go on w B g oh out of New York, New Jersey, and that's only and then they don't want to hear it. My grandkids don't want to hear this. They want to hear thump. There's no lyrics anymore.

When you finished high school, you get into the army. I'll tell you about that. I was doing shows for a City of Hope. My friend's father had died of cancer. Robert answer them, and I got the guy would like me, and I did benefits at his house. I was nineteens. All my friends were like with sUAS, and I had a lot of young girls, and my sister was beautiful. And I called it the Junior Society in Manhattan. I had a little club for you guys who want to

meet girls. So I'd read the Navarro Hotel is suite and I get a Flamenco guitar play and I bring in the booze. There twenty bucks for the guys and they meet girls and ship like that. But I wasn't making any money. I got, Holy Christ, they'd better come up with something. And so I became a writer to advertising agency. And you know, hey, mom, don't forget to put a Macintosh apple into the kid's lunch today. You're

not kind of crap like that. Desn X bunions are killing men X will kill at the guy jumps into pool, he's got happy feet. He comes out he had desert this definitely that. And I'm going uh talking to William B. Williams because I had him MC some shows for cancer. I said, Willie, I gotta get out of this thing. Mitch Lee. He was doing some commercials for me. Mitch Lee wrote, Man of La Mancha. When did the Army commit? Army came in nineteen fifty nine. I was going to

be drafted. I go, wait a minute, I will join the Army Reserve and go six years to a camp camp drump. What is a mistake? They said, what did you do in private life? Sir? I said, well, I was working at agency once, I was a copywriter, and then the last time I was working for Leader Brothers. And they sent me out to do surveys about what soap did they like and what's a good name for soap? This one schmucky soap, this soap dove and they picked out dove. So you like to do surveys. I turned

out to be a surveyor in a Howitzer unit. I'd be running in this sixteen foot high grass in Oklahoma, running out there with the scope. All right, so you're telling it's three hundred yards away to shot. Drop the stake there, you got it with the plumb bob, put it down here, I go, Okay, how long we in the military? Live military? Six months? My unit was never called up for six years, but I went to meetings every week at Fort Totten, and then I went every

year up to Camp Drum and we played soldier. But I brought my own folding cot. I ain't really sleeping with the ants biting me all night, but the howitzes would go. If we're in a howitzer unit, Bang, my bed jumped two ft off the ground. I hope we never go to world. For six years, yeah, two weeks every summer. One summer I got out of Barba Streisam playing a show for Lyndon Johnson, Atlantic City. I said, I need that I have to do this show to get our guy. I loved it again. Under I got

a letter from a congressman from Illinois. So the sergeant and my unit guls this guy is full of ship. Because I had a senator write a letter on behalf of the Democratic Party. This is important to America. I got it out of that one summer, but the rest I was there. The good thing about that you go to the thousands of islands and they'd be hotels up there, and you get a past Saturday night passed. So we meet girls. I met a girl from Texas freckles dancing nice.

Are you as girl obsessed now as you were back then? The girl today? When I was driving my tea Bird, she waved, Hey, that's great. I should have stopped to say, can I have your phone number? They like it when you have a nice car. When I first my first car was a Rolls because I borrowed my mothers and fathers all the time until I was forty years old. What model Roses sixty five plock Ward Milliner. I wish it was a corn but it's beautiful. It's got the

picnic tables on the back, sand over Sable. I'll drive it out. You'll like it's beautiful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I took it to Lennox, mass once from my my daughter was a camp and it made it up there, thank god. Now, at what point does it transition to like the first big show you do christ Big one was Ramsey Lewis trio. We had the in Crowd down in crowd. It was the number one hit. I called up the eight Talent Agency. Was this Sky South? Safe? Was the Rims Lewis? He said,

a kid or I heard about you. You're doing something, all right, I'll sell you Lewis. I sold the tickets for six fifty, four fifty and two fifty where Carnegie Hall. That was the big for me. Oh my god. My wife designed the ad and I was so nervous. I said, I just got married and I had no real job before then except writing copy. And the father looked at me and says, um, well, I was hoping for somebody. But I said, believe me, I won't let you down. You'll be proud of me. Of course, the first time

I met her, I went to the house. Lady came open, the door was a maids cost them on. Took me into the dining room. But all these plates on the table, and all these lives and spoons which you leave from the right. L left and he started talking. He said, what what are you planning to do? I said, right now, do you know the Pope is coming to America's coming to New York and I got a great idea, we sell popsicles. Oh no, that was the end of it, you know, and my wife in the lip, and I

don't know it would make a fortune. In fact, I did this when thea Toler was kicking. Our asked when Jimmy Carter was in office, and I said, Hey, we're gonna sell funk Ther Toler buttons at Chase Stadium. And that's what we did to show our protests. So I did things like this to get started. But right away the first year, when I was married to my wife,

I was success sex. I convinced the parks department to do shows in Santra the park ice skating rink for dollar a ticket when no one else was there because there was no ice skating in the summer Wenes concerts, that's right. The first thing was I got rhinegold Beut to be my sponsor. How did I get that because in my advertising days I was friendly with the account executive at Doyle Dana Burnback who had Rhinold as a client.

And these guys said, go with it, will give you thirty five thousand bucks a year and book your acts. We were hit from day one. I took an ad in the paper. The show sold out for a dollar a ticket, and they lined up at the Corvettes. That's where they sold as tickets. I made a deal with Corvettes. I said, you want to have Affrick in your store, put the record the problem on the second floor, so they have to go through all the other places to

see to get up to maybe they'll buy something. It got so big that I had to do second shows at ten thirty at night. People around a neighborhood hated it. But Polving said to me, this is what he said, effort. He said, now you're doing the right thing. These kids, these people who come here, their vacation is the fire escape. They don't go to the ampers. It's just coming here.

And keep that up. And the lady who owned the building with Nicky Mantle once I forget her name again, she was wonderful cigarette smoking chick and wanted to throw me out of the park. She invited me to a prominent come and have a press conference at my penthouse. She was God to me. So Paul Simon showed up, Patty LaBelle and the Blue Bells, and I brought in Uh President Hallow. I forget the guy's tea very voice here. This is good for my people. What are you doing here?

You're scrapping? When did you sit there and go, oh god, man, this is it? I made it. I mean I'm in my daughter. Yeah, I had it. I had a lot on it for about twenty five years because from out I did the free shows in Center Park. So James Taylor wanted to do a show there. I called the park commission. He was all for the city, paid for it when it let me have the cops for free and the land for free. So how to get the money?

Make a T shirt, last show in the sheep meadow and then more conscience on the sheet metal, which hurted me. James Taylor. We sold him for thirty five bucks. That was enough money to pay the stage and union. Everybody else got no money, you know, our security, a bunch of high school kids who paid Taylor. I think Pale and Taylor might have done it for free. He wanted

to do a free show. But after that everybody got paid for when Simon and Garfuncle they got paid of course, and Lauren taped the show for me and Elton John Uh. I think Elton did it for free to Uh, Carol Kagan was there. It rained on her. That's another story. Pink Floyd hadn't played in years. So I came up

with a genius idea which backfired. Get the blow up pig that they have as to their logo and fly it over Center Park and then we'll get on the radio and say, hey, we tickets for Pink Floyd, but you can't buy them unless you go to Central Park and you'll get a coupon to buy them. There's no box then you get the coupon. You ru into the box office, but you gotta get a coupon. So I had about ten of us with bags of coupons. The announcements goes on radio, and these people they knocked me

on my ass. I fell that bang running. I threw the tickets up in the air, ran front of life. But of course they could sell it anything, and they got the coupon of buy tickets. But these kind of things they got the bigger and bigger and bigger. And I said, one day they're going to rope off Delaware and you can't get in this state unless you have a ticket to see somebody. And it's gotten that way. When you do a show We do a lot of shows in City Feel a MetLife Taste Stadium or Yankee Stadium.

You're there watching the screen unless you're sitting in the first rows. We'll have glasses, but no one seems to mind. You know what it is. They're there, we were there. The experience of being with that crowd is what's it about. It's like a scene that want to want to be there. Absolutely, I'm assuming there's more than one type of promoter, that there's different people who handle the same show differently. What type of promoter are you? Are they all the same

as I do? Is I'm at every show. If I have a relationship with an act or if I would like to have a relationship and I know them, I make it a point to buy them something. I used to buy gifts for everybody. Like with Billy Joe, you know we were friends. Like one of my hot rod ones red with the dice hanging from the thing, like you traded in for a motorcycle, traded in your present. I think I get, I get an Indian motorcycle. But

he was like he's the nicest. I mean, look he's doing all these shows that they're going and he cuts me in who's an act that you kind of were fifty you didn't even really have any opinion of any sense of who. You watched them live and you really decided you liked them a lot of that that now that I'm a big corporation, you know, I saw my company in the stock Cold Live Nation. There's a lot of these acts that I go to see because I we know him that well. So I'd go down to

see him at the barrier or whatever. And I saw Hosier from England, h Josie. I uh, this kids, tall, good looking guy with the beard and the holy you know I'm in So I called the Asian told me to go Kirk Summons, who's a wonderful guy. And what do you think, Kirk system, I think I want every day. So you've got no no, You're gonna get your market New York, New York, Dora. So I've been with them for years. Another actors James Bay. I know his mother

and father. Now I had breakfast them in London and they gave me their other son is called Alex Francis. I got the CD for him. I'm booking him now, the kid. And so I make friends with the families and everything, But these acts surprised me so sex symbols, English, gorgeous and nice. I take everyone out to Old Loomi's bar after the show untill four in the morning. They got the bus. They go in to Boston at four in the morning, and I'm still closing a place with them.

That's what we do. And you hang with these guys, but you hope that they man. But her uncle Ronnie they call me, was there with us. And that's why I do those little things that people don't go to the extra mile. Now I'm forgetting about my family. You know, I lost my daughter, but not the loser. But I wasn't there for like I should have been like most people, and my wife the same way. And you know, I'm trying to catch up. It's very very hard. Who's the

rock star? They really impressed you with his business acumen. He understood the business and the ticket sales and the marketing. Who was sharp, boy, that's a great question. Well, you don't get involved too much with the act. Sometimes I do for right now, not too sharp With friends of mine. I tell them sometimes, you know, I'm making enough money. I tell them about the tickets. They should be hired.

But I don't want to get the Asian manager in trouble, little fire up, so I have to be very careful what I say. Jimmy Buff has a great setup. He's got a lot of good people around him, and he did they know about money, so he's sure. He says all those other antillary businesses too. He's selling food and all kinds of stuff. He's got seeing your homes, he's building villages for all. He's what about Jack or somebody told me he's very business. Seven runs the whole show.

He knows about money. You give him five ten million, it's not enough. Whatever I offered him two hundred million for a few soars of the garden. When you kidding me, you can make that in five shows. It's some ball fielding progress. But Roger Water is just smart about the money. He knows everything about that. He's very careful about it. But he doesn't care what he spends. I'm putting the show together. And they were always this way when he

was with Pink Floyd, that band. We don't okay, we want to what did you give the Stones when they were here? Uh? You has this little village of New York City, and he had egg creams and an organ grinder. All right, that's what I want. I want a pool table, I want a golf driving range. I want thousand dollars tens of bloga. So I go to Dave Gilmar said, Dave, you guys are pisting away. It's not me, it's Roger. It's okay, okay, what do you want? That's what it

is today. If I Ronny come over in the house, will played car? I should we play Generalmy together? He says, I got some CAB's the best, cat, best wine, always the best with him New York's legendary concert promoter Ron Delsoner. I'd always figured that Roger Waters Pink Floyd classic money, those cash registers in the background and pans to caviare were meant ironically, apparently not that. Ron Delsoner has produced

many a Billy Joel concert in his day. But if you don't want to wait to buy a ticket, listen to our here's the thing interview. He may fill Madison Square are now. But when Billy made his first album, nobody was paying very close attention. The album was mastered at the wrong speed. So a song like this She's got away about her, I don't know what it is, but I know that I can't live with that played like this, She's got away. I don't know what it is,

but I know that I can't live without that. Interview and more at Here's the Thing, Dot Org. I'm Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the Thing. My guest today. Ron Delsoner is one of the most successful concert promoters of all time. He's also in the Long Island Music Hall of Fame for his renovation of the Jones Beach Amphitheater. He turned it into one of the most important venues on the East Coast. And he's seen lots of concerts. When you'd be there watching these shows, some of the

greatest acts that ever lived. Would you sit there and go now, this guy is the greatest drummer, This girl is the greatest singer. Janis Joplin. I've never seen anybody worked that stage like her. Carol King when she first sat down and had that multi billion dollar album that she had with lou Ala, every song on that album was akiller. She knocked him dead at the piano. Barbara Streissan I played her in Central Park a free show in nineteen sixty seven. Oh my god, videos of it

and at Farms still Senner Stadium too. Neil Diamond had magic when he walked out on that stage. You know it's that it's kind of special, right he pulled you in dramatic lighting. I want to compare and contrast who had the biggest entourage and who had the smallest entourage. Who's somebody who came and he went, Oh my god,

it's like an army of people. While Molly, these guys were heavy dealers from Jamaica and they'd be an address room and they'd be smoking a spliff and I'll be talking about Molly said, really, better take care of this man here and give us some money. Give me some money. I'm taking care Paul, not you. They're a pretty heavy guy. So I didn't like that too much. And it doesn't still go on smst entourage and was the least fuss.

Steely Dan's that way they walk in like, Okay, I went to your house that time and Fagan was there. Steely Dan is that kind of way. Uh. Paul Simon's that one maintenance. Paul definitely pulls out These are at the top of my head and even Roger Boys, most of the acts I play, but Eric Clapton won't see even me unless he wants it. I said, I don't want to see it, called me if you want to see me. Yeah, that he's low key. Ben Morrowson's low key.

I mean there's a tons of low key because they've been they've been, they've been doing it for so long. The newer acts, I mean, you probably can't get next near Beyonce jay Z. They're great and I don't know what they travel or not there they never try to get that close and I respect the privacy, but back and then most of all the English acts when they first came over, we're easy to get to because their drivers came to the parties after the show with giving

them a drugs. What's the driver doing the well he's carrying for us? Uh, those days were great there, early sixties and seventy one. Other thing I've noticed and I have this got this observation because of you. You got me tickets to the twelve concert. I said to you, I really want to say hi to Townsend and Adultry, And so I meet those guys and I see to Adultry, I say, do you guys have played Sally Simpson in the morning? He was like, what And you can tell

they all of them have lost their hearing. You know, Townsend has tided is really bad now the last fifteen years. They all have these monitors they put in the areas Rod Stewart and stuff that they don't blow their voice out because they put them in so down they hear themselves and they can talk and it goes out, lady, So they don't most of the tone deaf, bad tendedis this guy's out there azzy When people still go out there, you see them get old, you see it. But the

thing is, none of them, this is my opinion. We were talking about this before you can none of them want to stop. They're not done. They're all said back then when we get to be thirty, we're not gonna do this anymore. Jagger said that now there was seventy five, but what's his name, Charlie wats is seventy five, seventy six. He may be close to my age. For Christ's sake, you know he's up there, maybe eighty now. But they still didn't want to stop. Look what I'm playing any

other night, I'm playing Jeff back with Paul Rogers. Listen. The Heritage Acts is selling tickets though. People want to see the heritage. People's kids now go Daddy that father says, you gotta go see this act I did. That were my grandkids. You gotta see Billy Joe, you gotta see Paul McCarney. There's nobody like these guys. I did the Beatles in nineteen six four. Now you travel the world,

but you were based out of New York. Is New York still controlled by the Union or is it a lot easier to do business now than it was forty years ago? Because I feel like fourty years ago there was like a few guys that ran the whole town. It's still crazy, uh the Union. Now Local one is the Claffy family and friendly with them because their dad is still around. James sr. I was around, and James Junior is the head of Local one. And Richie Claffy, who was eight years old when he was running around

my stage in Central Parky. He's got a great job with Jim Dolan runs the garden and we're all friends. I take these guys there two Patsy's at least once or twice a year. They're great guys. Will they help up? But Uncle Ron and if something happened, yes, but I keep that kind of quiet what I do with them on the side because they don't do it for anybody else. But if I ever needed something, they get there. So I'm friendly with them. They almost liked that. My family

were very close with these guys. But then it was tough way back when. I mean they people would pick it and they would pick it, and I always let him in. They were picking ing at them. They're picking in to get union workers work in Hammerstein Ball. So I went down there and they put on a hard hat and I picketed with them to get union in there. Because I had union of my venues, I always hired him. I said, look at I can't give you that stupid money,

and don't pilot on me. Even with the Long Showman union, I made a deal with them. I had this show Peer Peer eighty four, which was appeared that the Long Showman control that. I didn't really know that until I said, hey, we've got to help you here. I don't need any help. I'll tell you about that later when the guy dies he's still alive. I knew they were terrific to me. I have no comments. A lot of the guys there would connected. Who cares? So? When did the idea for

Jones Beach hit here? There was an article in the Daily News and Frank Barcelona sould rest the PC was had a premiere talent. He had only English acts. He had who he had clapped, No, he had everybody. He said, Ronnie, you better go bit on this. It looks like the Shoeberts are gonna go after it. The New Atlanta's you should be there. So I bit on it, and I want over all those other guys. I took my head, salt egg salent sandwich would be and we had time.

I everybody voted for me, excepted coming to New York. He didn't. He wanted he wanted the radio city guys in it. And after a while we became friends. He said, I should have voted for you. It was ten to one. I one ten to one. I said, I'll give you ten thousand dollars a show on a hundred thousand dollar gavranteed the first year perfect. No one else would guarantee that my wife and I go to the Jones Beach concert.

A while back to cross by Stows, Nation Young, it was kind of a warm night, a little balming you know, the sun's just going down, it's just getting dark. And as soon as the lights went out, I mean I'm not exaggera as soon as the lights, like it went off like an air bag, with the velocity of an air bag. The entire breadth of where we were seating. You saw a cloud of dope smoke go all over

the room. Everybody lit had joined. It was like it was like five hundred people that had joined the same instant, and the and and the dope smoke went up in the air like it was part of the show. I looked to my wife and I went, oh my god, I can't even breathe. You know, we and we got a little high, you know, like like being there. But who is somebody? When you look back, you wish man? I wish I had promoted that person, done shows well, played him many many times. Whatever was scared ship to

talk to the girls. I played sucted for us still. I played him every summer at the Garden State arm Center. But I didn't want to have I don't have a picture with him. I could have done it easy. He was the manager. The manager ran knew and he don't want to get out of anyway. I got to talk to him like, hey, right, what the hell are you doing this for? He has respect for people to talk. I always have this funny egotistical thing where I think I could have been friends with Sinatra because I would

have given it back to him. You don't want You're the best. I love you, Frankie. You want that ship if you're going. Because I talked to everybody, I tell him. He looked like, what, I don't care? Who did all they go? You know who I'm talking to. Yeah, I know you're the president. I don't care. But that's what you have to do with him. He respects that. If I made a movie out of your life and you wind us, that'd be a cool movie. You know, the movie out of your life and I had somebody play

you in a movie. I know it will be who would play Robert Downey Jr. That's who you want? Yeah, maybe what would work. It's a good idea. That's a very good idea. I may run into him in the next couple but I tell him. I tell him all the sick things we used to do, and you, I mean put it in there. I love my wife. I gotta wait till I do this, and we want to say it's about you. It's an amalgam. Know he would be he would be great. Put it together, will make

a ship. But but in my movie, this kid from the Storia becomes the big shot concert promoter of his generation. And your name is Delsoner is synonymous with big events music, live music. It's Bill Graham and you that's it. There's other name but not you know, Cedric Kushner, And he's right nothing wrestling. The only reason he got a couple of shows I flipping back is from South Africa. He offered them five. He had an in with the guy. Wait, come on, I didn't go to his funeral. He's a loser.

Come on, he's a wrestling process. So well, well let's leave the wrestler out of it. But in my movie, the kid from Historia is leaning against the ropes in the wings of the theater. I like that really sentimental, you know, And he's leaning against the ropes. He's sitting there going, man, this is this is the life. And someone's on stage performing who you just melt? You? Just like? Who? Who's the star? Who are we gonna? Who makes you melt? Come on? Music? That just give you one? But I'll

give you one. David fucking boat Jack. Okay, well it was amazing. What did a performer? He was an artist. He was a performer. And Jagger comes from the same school constulers dresses, the way they did that the whole thing. Those guys were great. You can't now you can't go to groups. I mean just of course you picked them out. It's the who stones those guys like clapped. But there's others. Charles as Nevor when he came out with the hand movements in the black and white suit, he and b

f together. They would love us. At ninety three, was still friends. I always played him at Carnegie Hall. I love these French artists, these old time as Charles trene and people like this. Remember that Beyond Somewhere you got it Beyond that was written by Charles Treney. Everybody would cords, everybody Charles Treney. He was a great performance. And when Neil Diamond first came out with the lighting at the Winter Garden Theater, wicked with the hair and to I

just kind of he was magnetic. Uh who today comes out like that? Oh God, that's tough to do. When a drums start in the quiet sator was incredible. I honest last show at the Copra Cabana when he was the Man with the Golden Arm at two o'clock in

the morning. In the audience is Edward g. Robinson a few others, and I'm sitting right behind the band and the culprit to put a table out of the pact comes out of black shirt, black suit, black tie, and the theme is that the Dada the Man with the Golden I'm saying because the movie was hot that night was magnetic. You see what the same repernee and the smoke going up here, you see stuff like that. So the song We're gonna go out with beyond the scene?

Who's Who? Whose version you like? Bobby? I played Barby Darren. That joke appear. Wait a minute, it's like a tinball machine wherever we go take. I booked him. I booked him. Wait when his kid was on the stage watching in the wings bo Babe Ruth, he was signing autograph al Josh Kake to my house. He had, So here's this story waiting. But Bobby Darren played the Shape of Music Festival, was a rival for a dollar a ticket in Central Park and he was great. You see he also did

that song about the carpenter, a folk song. He did that. It was hot at the time. He tried to be hip, you know. Besides, it's not the ship he did, you got it. He did that. He had a heart problem he should have cured by then. Give him a new fucking heart because he was Sinatra for young people. He was great. Frank probably didn't like him, but he was fucking great and he was magnetic, so he was great. You ever see Jimmy Roselli thing. I played him so

many franking times. He wear a girdle here, don't address him him. He's putting the girdle on. I'm playing at the Palace day. That was pasquality Caputo pat Pat, that's Pasqually Caputo pat. He's opening Shimmy fose Elliot at the Palace and Jimmy's you got the dead Presidents. He wants to see the green, you know, the cash. And he

was great. And by the way he was out, he was never going to be played aga because Sonatra said he's adam that uh gus fans At was gonna make a movie with Travolta called The Man who Made the Mob Cry, And it was all about how Sinatras. People killed Rosellie's career because he was as good, if not better, But he wouldn't play his mother. Frank's mother, Dolly, wanted him to play the birthday party in Frank GOLs James, I don't do that. He wanted to get paid. Frank

didn't want to pay him. He goes, I don't do that. That's why he was bats it nowhere anymore. He played Jersey Atlantic City for the rest of his life. And I saw him later on in life and he still had the course at all, you know, like this, but he was great. He had the best voice I've ever heard. And all the women, no no, no, Dudue Feminale, you paid the rails all the time they played Jimmy Rosellie. Now, all the women in your life, women you dated, your wife,

anybody you know, people women who worked for you. Rock and roll is obviously a business with like a hyper sexuality to it. Who was the sexiest rock star? Who was some what do you mean? The guy would show up and people were just throwing them something guys. David Cassidy put a bit of trunk of my car to get about a national car seem in the trunk of my car dropping it to my house and wants Stampton to get out. It's okay. They were following him all

around a place. He was incredible stuff. He just died like he once played Jones Beach a few years ago. He had no money to take a taxi back to Manhattan. I said, I'll get you a limo. This is how bad it was for these guys about who's the sexiest woman. I gotta think who was sexy? Peggy Lee was the nicest, too, sexy and classy. Was doing a show with her at the Woman I Skating Rank. He says, where's the food? I said, my sponsors chafe of beer. You got a case of beer in the dress room. No, no, I

got an orchestra here. Send somebody out of his two hundred bucks to this place. Was famous on a good in Times Square to get hot dogs for everybody in the band. She was great. And I want to go to in too much details about drugs in your business. But my friend takes me to a concert as the famous metal band, a big hair band, and we're standing there talking and then shows about the start and you here in the stars dressing me here then here, yeah,

definitely yeah, here Wow, the voice just clicks in. Man, it's all there. He does two big rails and he's ready. The door opens, he throws the scar friends like he's like, no, let's go, and he's ready to go. Is that your business? Is that a part of your business? They got to get their motivation right. There should go a couple of people. Once in a while. I would say, hey, I gotta be dust me up, dust me up, man, and I go,

what do you want? I mean Jimmy Smith the organ play I was playing to show with him, and I go in later on in life, Hey man, you got any coke? Jimmy? That was twenty years ago. He was bad, But I don't see that anymore. Sexy women, I gotta think a sexy woman. I mean, I love my wife, but who's sexy? Was a chick? I gotta think about that Stay Nicks, Carly Simon, Yeah, she was hot, long legs and all that kind of grace. Like, I gotta I gotta think of off camera here, we'll talk about

who it is. I gotta figure it out. Was this is some new chicks today? Jeanelle Money is supposed to be pretty safe. I guess the sixtiest woman today's Beyonce. Well, I'll tell you what. Christy Turlington a people that came and sat in the front row. Maybe she can't say back when and then when you were twelve years old, it was like I was the Kitzble brother. Billy's mother in law, Michelle Phillips, there's one of those gorgeous gorgeous what was the name of the bandmas loud reside on

that money. My brother is married to her daughter, China, and China's daughter, Brooke is a carbon copy of Michelle. Scary looks exactly Michelle. Alright, let's let's see. So when we go out, we'll go out with beyond the seat. But I want to say thank you for doing this. Thank you you are you are the man, and you're still doing so were you you still doing the ship. We're gonna do this. That's what we do. We get

up in the morning and that's what we do. I tell my wife that it's a fortunate that my wife now it doesn't have we don't have the relationship. I feel it. It's really terrible for me to feel that way, but I love it like crazy. She loves me. It ruins lives. But you know, when the business came first, exactly like Kauzan said in that movie Got, that was our job. We were told to do that. We didn't

ask questions. Ron Delsoner, as he and I discussed, we're going to take the show out on Bobby Darren's Beyond the Scene. But Ron wanted to pay tribute to the song's writer too, so we'll start with the version by Charles Trene. The song and the chords are the same, but listen to the melancholy tinge strings and harp instead of brass percussion. Oh, when Auntie alone, They're gonna be

playt Plame London, the A, finish your home Love. I know beyond a doubt, my heart will lead me there to We'll meet that no will meet now I'm the shot. We'll kiss just as before, Happy will be beyond the sea never again. That one verse is the only thing that makes it a love song. Will kiss just as before, and never again, I'll go sailing. That's missing in Trene's original. It's just the singer and the song. I wonder which

one Ron prefers. Ron Delsoner, the man who promoted the rock acts that you love, and your children love, and your grandchildren love This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the Thing, Hell the play play