The Light and Dark Sides of Tim Dillon

podcaster since two thousand sixteen. His blend of truth telling, hot takes, and controversial opinions can be heard every week on the Tim Dillon Show. Like many who make their living on the road, Dylan was mostly sideline from touring throughout the pandemic. We spoke about where and how he spent his time during COVID. I was in Los Angeles, and then I went out to Palm Springs, which is a desert. Because if I don't have to be near work, I can be in the desert. So I went out

to the desert. You have a home there too, No, no, I have on your business card, he says, Palm Springs. But part of are you in Yeah, Beverly Hills, Beverly Perfect. Yeah, Beverly The office is of Tim Dillon. Beverly Hills, Palm Springs, Texas, New York and New York. Yeah. I went out there and we were able to podcast and make people laugh on the internet. And thank god because that helped our sanity and obviously we're able to monetize that and make money.

But you know, important for comedians is to be funny. That's how we live. We're screwed up people that need an outlet, and thank god we had an outlet. Well, we're gonna get to your background, right, a glorious background. You and I share a Long Island background, Long Island background, which is don't all the most polished and sophisticated. You know, I know that we're being funny, but maybe that is true. It's true. Maybe it is true. When you're starting out,

you're in an age where you're not a kid. Did know? And and and everything is not the Internet and the way things are now. What was your comedy diet when you were growing up? What it was a lot of SNL. So it was a lot of SNL. It was a lot of Farley in Spain and Chris Rock and Mike Myers and and and even the next generation of Molly Shannon and annagasta Ire and Rio Terry and Will Ferrell. I loved SNL. I like Mad TV, which was you know, was already Lang and all these other people. I love

sketch comedy. I would watch Carlin and Pryor and Hicks and and Kinnison and Joan Rivers and all of these people as I was growing up, so vintage people like Prior, yeah, for sure. And I also loved, you know, sitcoms. So I loved Fraser, and I loved I thought Kelsey Grammer and David I. Pierce, I thought they were brilliant. You know. Comedy to me was was kind of this very broad thing that I didn't know what it was or or

how I would make a living at it. It seemed, you know, incredibly unrealistic to make a living at comedy because it was something that was so happening somewhere else, far away, you know. And then as I you know, got older, I was an actor as a kid, and I did some you know, off Broadway, off off Broadway. I toured around the country, came into the city, came into the city a lot. I toured with any Get Your Gun, which was they had a touring version of that. But I was always in the city as an actor

and it didn't work. You know, I from the why why do you think it didn't work? I had the same voice I have now at seven, and that's challenging. It's very hard for director. I have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and some strawberry quick. Yeah, it was very jarring because I was a cute kid. But then the director heard the voice and he went, you know, this is a bit much. And it didn't work, but it gave laid the groundwork and the foundation for the idea that I loved being on stage and I love

the entertainment business and I love New York City. So eventually it led me out of Long Island into New York pursuing stand up comedy a decade later. But it was, you know, the acting never it worked in the sense that I was a part of a lot of really cool things, but it never got to that next level. I never booked in a part that took me to l ayer. I think, do you think you could now? Do you want to? I mean, I don't know that I could or couldn't. I think that, Um, I'm not

the greatest actor. I'll be very honest, and I'm it's actually stunning, how bad. I'm pretty good at uh being me and being funny as me. But when I do auditions, you know, I have friends who on lines with me. It's stunning how not good I am. I'm surprised by how bad If you don't have that appetite. I mean, we just didn't audition. Eli Roth was doing a movie, a video game movie. He's a fanny. He said, I want you to work, and we didn't mean. My producer

drilled forty takes to get a really good take. They went with an older guy who, in Eli's words, was older and fatter and more Russian. And that's fair. Uh and uh. But it takes me a while, but I think I think it's a possibility. Well, the only reason I say explored is because there's something about certain comics that lead you to believe there's a kind of the root of the comedy is to some extent, the trauma

of some experiences from childhood. Then both of those events are there, and both of those events have been installed. When Seinfeld did this show, he said a line once. It really got to me. He said, when I go out on stage, he said, I blow myself up, almost like a Macy's day. You know, he says, I make myself larger, and all of my presence is kind of inflated and larger. Is that true of you? Are you the same on stage as you are? Also? No, No, I'm an exaggerated version of myself on stage. I think

I'm more animated on stage. I think off stage would be exhausting. You couldn't get through a dinner with me if I was not like Tom Arnold. No, it's not exactly the same on camera. Really bless him. But I know I need a, you know, some time to refuel. And I think that, uh, I used that off stage, and I think, but people meet me, they're a little surprised. You go, oh, you're a little more scaled down. I go,

you will. Of course. Now you talked about how your parents divorced and your mother was diagnosed with schizophrenia, mother's kizophrenic, and out that came. She came to that later in life. That was when you were how old. I was in my late teens when it started to come out. When I started to go there's something wrong, and then you learn, you know, you learn about mental illness, and you learn that it's physical illness essentially right, and it's you know,

there's treatments and things. It can't really be helped. And like, you know, I have jokes about it and I make fun of and and and you know, I think to certain people they'd hear that and they go, well, that seems very callous or very cruel. But it's how I deal with it in the same way that many people deal with tragedies with humor. So I think, I love my mother, and my mother, you know, did great things for me, and I appreciate her. Your father was gone,

and no, he was there. He's there. They were still married. They were still married and they got divorce eventually. Siblings none, You were an only child, just me, Jesus Christ, just me. They wanted one person to experience at all. They didn't want to, you know, spread it out. They wanted one guy to take all the all the fun of that

long island upbringing with the schizophrenic mother. For me, my therapist said to me years ago, you don't want to recreate the pain of what you experienced as a child. You're going to restage the play, but in your version of the play, you solve the problem that you couldn't solve as a child. Yeah, I'm only mentioned that that's something I carried over. What did you carry over? I think I carried over a sense of chaos, A very unhealthy sense of chaos. Um. I grew up in chaos,

and to me, I'm very comfortable around it. Right, I'm very comfortable. I mean, as you said, what's my address? Who knows? Right? I mean, that's kind of a good idea. You know. I've moved every six months during the quarantine. I liked the new things and new I mean, there's many frustrated realtors out there. You I've left a lot of them in my wake. But I do, I do.

I think unfortunately, maybe I've tied a little bit of my creativity to the chaoss And there's a fear that the cast is actually good, and the cast is actually it's fuel and it's what I'm used to and what I know, and hearing you say it, that's actually a very interesting thing about recreating you know, those environments that we grew up and we learned to thrive in, we learned to survive in and I could see myself doing that with a lot of some of the decisions I make.

How would you describe your style? How would you I mean every comic has a style, your own style, or who would you compare it to? No, I mean I think that it's like it's it's certainly darker comedy, right, So it's dark comedy. There's a lot of different comedians. The problem with comedies whenever you compare yourself to somebody or saying you're as good as them or anything, which is not true at all. Right, So everyone hates doing that.

I hate doing that, But I mean I do think it's somebody described it once they said it's very dark in a light way, which I think is fun. Right, There's there's darkness, but then there's also complaining about frozen yogurt. Uh. I think there's a way to experience the unpleasantness of the world in hopefully a light way that allows people to laugh at things that they wouldn't necessarily laugh at it on days when they don't want to laugh. That to me is kind of what the show is about.

What the stand ups about is that when people reach out to me and go the show has gotten me through the last year, or your your live show was so great. We're also happy. We had a rough week and it made us happy. That's really good to me. I don't really want or need happy people in my audience. I need a challenge. I want someone coming in that needs to laugh. If you're if you're twenty and yeah,

you know, i'd love them to be drunk. And but I mean, if you're a model, and you you know, sometimes they go on stage of the Hollywood Improblem, I look at the audience and everyone's twenty three in a model and I go, I don't know. I don't know about this because you don't need this, and I don't need this either. I don't need when you don't need me. So we're on a bad day. Set, you're all set. We're on a bad game. But that's okay too. But yeah, so, I mean, I think that's the style is darkly funny

in a in a light way. Now because you don't you don't do sitcoms. You're not on a sitcom. You've had TV specials and stuff and things like that, Comedy Central and that. I've never booked a role on a recurring thing. But so for you stand up is the main meats Well, it's stand up and the podcast is not really big. Yeah, but that but that stand up thing is your is your is your car with the podcast? That's right? And when you do that? What is writing

like for you? Mean? They are you one of these guys that's walking around saying, you know, squirrel, you know, get the best acted me write that down, squirrel? No are you constantly writing? No? I think I have like interests. So I have these weird interests where I go, I'll read stuff, and I'm interested in stuff. I have natural curiosity about a lot of weird things. And usually the things that interests me I find funny, I find amusing

because they amuse me. So whether it's uh, cryptocurrency now that I'm interested in, and I don't really have a hard position either way. I just find the world fascinating. I find this that there's pictures of apes selling for a million dollars online. This interests me. It seems like it's all about to collapse, and again you know the darkness, the pain running towards that. So stuff like that, I'll start writing about that. I'll start writing about what's funny

about that? To me? What's funny about an economy based on pictures of animals? Why is that funny to me? Why is that ridiculous? Why is that absurd? And I'll start writing about that. I'll start talking about it, maybe on the show, and then I'll bring it to a comedy club eventually. But I'm not a guy. I don't have that skill set that some comedians have with ay you can look at the squirrel or something and go immediately, I have it immediately. I just kind of I have interests.

You don't seeking it comes to you. Yeah. I don't sit down and write. Sometimes i'll write, but it will be once I have an idea. I'll have an idea about brunch. I hate brunch and I and I hate it, and I want to write about why I hate it. And I don't like Disney World. I don't like people to go to Disney World without children. It's strange. And I'll write about that. And I write about these things that interest me, and and things that might look at

something that's not quite right. That's where it maybe starts. That's not quite right. A picture of an ape seng from million that's not quite right right to thirty five ye olds to Disney World. Not a kid inside, not quite right, brunch, a bunch of these young, boozy trunk professionals eating you know, French toast and complaining wedding DJs. Not quite right. So then I reverse engineer from that.

So the COVID you were locked down in h we're locked down in l A. It was fine because it was you know, the weather is great and you can walk outside. Compared to the New York lockdown was much better. We got away on the West Coast a lot easier in terms of weather and just the natural, you know,

kind of beauty of the area. I'm not an l A person in terms of I hate being in a car what have and growing up on the island and being I'm going to get to that in a second, having being a New Yorker and a Long Island or you love what in that l A? Do you love being in a car and the noble being in a car? I don't love being in a car. I do think that LA's new and different, you know from me as a guy that grew up in a Long Island, grew up in New York, and I think there's a synergy

there that is good for creativity. Uh again, the chaos right again, the idea of like, Okay, I'm happy and comfortable in one place, let's move, Let's go somewhere else, Let's find a new circle of people that. Yeah, and so I enjoyed it, and I didn't think I'd like it as much as I do. It came as a surprise to me. I trash it all the time because there's a lot of things worth trashing, but you learn to live with it. You pick a coast, you know, and I think that uh, you know, it was it was.

It was good. I love the comedy store, I love the history, I love the you know, the idea of you know, show business there, and I love the idea of, you know, people that are really focused on making things happen. But that also comes with the fact that you have a lot of fake, spineless, hollow, shallow human beings. That

is tough, but you learn to love them. You'll learn because we're all that in a way, we're all not you know, we're not as ugly and exposed as they are in l A. We're not as you know, naked in the sense of our ambition as they are. But I think that, like you learn to have a higher tolerance for that out there than than you do. Like, you know, when I went there and everyone in New York was like living there's fake and they pretend to like you, And I said, well, that sounds kind of nice.

There's something that's nice about that. You know, in the beginning I hated that idea. Well, I don't want anyone to pretend to like me unless they love me. Now, people go, hey, how are you great to see? And I get my card goes they hate me. But you know what, that was lovely, So I think that there's there's a you know, I know for a fact they hate me. It's a delightful phone. But it was a nice little meal we had and we're sitting near each other in a restaurant. So to me, you get to

a point where you go that's okay. And then in New York, immediately you land and people start unloading twenty years of problems on you immediately, and you go, oh, here's the problem with reality. Comedian Tim Dillon. If you enjoy conversations with boundary pushing comedians, check out my episode with Jordan Clepper. When I got into college, I did

the improv team and I think. What was so eye opening for me at the time is what I found in the arts and or improv specifically, was like I've never been asked to kind of think in that way. It was creative. There was no yes or no, there was no right answer, and I was sudding around people who were very curious in different ways and something It's like, well, there's no right answer. We want to know how you

feel that. I think I had gone eighteen years where I was like, oh, nobody asked me how I felt about this. They just asked me like, what was the slope of this this line or this angle? And for that was that was really kind of a game changer for me. To hear more of my conversation with Jordan Clepper, go to our archives at Here's the Thing Org. After the break, Tim Dillon shares with us how he thinks we can find common ground in a contentious culture. I'm

Alec Baldwin. You're listening to Here's the Thing. For a stand up comedian, life on the road is a prerequisite, but not all stops on tour are equal. Tim Dillon shares with us his favorite places to perform. I love Denver, It's a great comedy town and everybody there's hiking and up and down taking edibles. They're all relaxed, they're all ready to receive. They're very healthy, but they're also off. They're off. There's something wrong when you look at them.

I like Denver a lot. I love Chicago. You know, my big markets are Boston, Chicago, Denver, places where you know you would. There are cultures in pep Bull that you know enjoy comedy, and these are great towns and cities. But then I also have the privilege of going to other places. You know, Portland, Maine for example, place I didn't know, but I'm sure when you say Boston, in Chicago, places where let's be playing, where straight talking white guys are a hit, well, they're a hit. But a lot

of things are hit. Comedies a hit, right, because there's there's places where straight talking white guys are hip. A comedy is not a hit. Oh yeah, Wyoming wouldn't work for me. And if you're a straight talking white guy Wyoming, you're a hit. But comedy doesn't work there because they don't get irony. I really get satire. Uh they're not with it now, and God bless them. And I'm sure there's some lovely people that proved me wrong. But in mass it's not a great state for comedy. It was

your family still on Long Island. Oh yeah, why leave when the world is divided between people who Then they'll write me on social media, well I left Bay Shore. They've never left. They talked at one of years ago and then and they'll say, oh no, I miss Robert Moses, I missed the beaches of Lona. And there's people who they're never leaving. Right. Well, my my friend's mother was interesting. Every dinner we ever had. These were very good friends, and they take us on vacations and we go to dinner.

Every dinner we had, she talked about a condo in Naples. I mean, this was her dream of condo in Naples. They're gonna get a condo in Naples. Name. She dragged her husband down to Florida and they go endlessly look at condos and Naples and this is all that she wanted. And then her husband, Sadley, passed away. So I asked her, you know a few years ago, I said, you ever gonna get the condo Naples? She goes, well, what would I do there? And I said, but that's all you

talked about for your whole life. And then I realized, oh, that was the important thing. It was the idea that she could escape, but there was no escape, So the ideas that made the option. Many people talk about leaving, but they never leave. My parents will never leave. They've talked about Georgia and the Carolinas, They've talked about the humidity and the nights and Charleston, but they're they're never

gonna leave. When I was a kid, my dear wrist friends who lived in the house behind us on our block and my best friends growing up until I was nine years old. Kevin and Keith Cornelius were my best friends. And their father, Harold Cornelius, the name they called him, hap hap Cornelius, was a builder. And we're standing in my drive and he turns to my daddy goes, we're selling the house. We're moving. My Dad's like, wow, you're kidding. He goes, yeah, we're gonna sell. We're gonna move out

to Smithtown. And this is back in the sixties. And my father's like, wow, well, you know, God, we're gonna miss you. In best of luck to And as he walked away, my dad turned to my mother and he goes Smithtown, Jesus, that's Siberia, and he said, can you imagine. Yeah, well, I mean that's I think the attitude was it was back then. It was intensely local. Everybody was very local, and now everything's global. So now like you, you know,

I have people that messaged me. You know, a kid from Pakistan messaged me the other day, young kid fifteen. He goes, I like your podcast because you make fun of your government. And I said, that's awesome. It was this amazing, mind blowing moment. But it didn't even and rock me. That's how global the world is right now.

Later on that night, I sat back and I and I said to myself, I was like, you gotta really think about how amazing that is, that moment that a teenager in Pakistan has some have found the podcast and likes it because you're doing something that they may not be able to do. And he likes comedy and wants to be a comedian. And so to me, I go, that's a really wild thing. But we're so it's such a global world that you don't stop and realize the magic of that the way you should go back to

the island. Oh yeah, I mean we went back. I love the food, so I always go to a strip mall Italian restaurant and grab a bagel. I you know, I love you. Every now and then I'll drive through like you know, you know, King's Point, Sands Point and look at the gads br mansions, the old mansions I used to, you know, like, and I love the Hampton's. I go back every summer for at least two weeks.

Then I rent a house and and I loved it, and I swim at at Cooper's Beach and I and I eat a bunch of seafood, and I see friends and I I love it. It's the most my favorite place in the world. But then I have to go back to that hellish canyon on fire because it's the choice I've made. And everyone I know who's bicoastal is a little insane. Everyone in my business who tries to do both coasts is crazy. And I developed an affinity for Palm Springs during the quarantine to a lot of

history out there. Palm Springs got to be you know, the stings. It was you had to be when the old contracts came out. You could never be two hundred more than two hundred miles away from Paramount Studios, so Palm Springs is a hundred ninety nine miles away. It's it's very interesting, yeah, and that's why this just this desert town became this really kind of beautiful, interesting, perfect you know Lee, you know, restored, you know, mid century modern estates in these really some old cars and a

really kind of old Hollywood glam about it. It was very interesting and it transported you back to the nineteen fifties when people, I think we're somewhat optimistic about America. Not everyone, but there there was certainly a feeling of optimism, right it was post war, and you see that reflected in the architecture and just the urban planning in the city.

You feel it, and you go, this is what it feels like to build a city when things are going really well, and when people believe that, you know, you know, the cultural trends and everything are trending in the right direction. So I I do like it out there, and I do think that I was too quick to dismiss it. You know, it will never be New York. It's not ever gonna be news and it's apples and oranges. But

I've learned to like oranges. You know, someone said to me once, they said, l A is just the chicist suburb in the world. It's not really a city they're running that doesn't have a They're a real reliable they're absolutely public transportation system is out there. Very few people know who their congressman is. Very people know who their state assemblyment. If you do, know who their school board,

it's a very school board center political fabric out. Yes, I'll think about a school If you put a gun to my head, I couldn't tell you my congressman. I know every major d of every restaurant. I know who's working Craigs. I know who's working. You know all the places I want to go, But you know who's it. We're gonna go to Craig. We're gonna go to Craigs. I love Craigs. That's where I saw Sydney party when he died. Really I wrote a little quick memento and I saw the online and I said, how I was

in Craig's. Yeah, I met him there. It's I like it. I get into it. I think if you allow yourself to get into it, and there's nothing wrong with you, are in the business aren't you. I mean the business and I get into it, and you know, it's like, listen, it has its problems, sure, but at the end of the day, it's like what place doesn't. And you know, I tried a little bit of Austin, Texas during the quarantine. A hellish place. Why. Um, I got a lot of

progressive friends, gay friends, people. They love that it's the Republic of Austin. But I'm I'm a little spoiled by l A and New York. So I need a tomato, you know what I mean. I can't not have like there are certain things I like. I can't have two sushi restaurants that are booked out for a year, you know what I mean? I need Yeah, I need choices of places to eat and things to do and things

to see. It's you know, and then there's a lot of people that listen, there's a lot of people that live in Austin that didn't make it in New York or l A. Let's just be very honest. It is what it is. There's a little bit of a you know, a little bit of a weirdness about that city that I think comes from the fact that it is a city that seems to cater to the unambitious for up until recently when all the tech people are coming in

there and they'll ruin it. But for right now, forever it's been people whose art wasn't commercially viable, so they went to you know, get high and eat brisket. They should have that, but not for mix um. Let me ask you in the time we have you've done Rogan shows. Are people mad at him? I don't know, I haven't read the paper. What did you think about without commenting on him? And I'm assuming he's a power, he's a big pal's a pal, and but what did you think

about this whole Spotify thing? Well, again, I think a mature country has to allow people to have conversations that are uncomfortable and difficult. And I do think that I love Joe. I know Joe. I'm an overweight guy who smoked and you know, drank and use drugs in his life. I was vaccinated the day it came out, because I said, I talked to a doctor and I went, yeah, I mean it seems to make a lot of sense for me. I'm not I'm not gonna gamble this your sober Sober

twelve years. I got thirty seven years this month, congrats, And I don't really go public too much about that, but these days I don't know. Boy, what was your drug of choice? Oh? I like booze. I liked coke too, but but but booze was the down Don't you downplay the coke thing to me? You know, coke was good, but then you know, booze was so acceptable from an Irish family that I was able to use this part of cuisine. Yes, booze is part of pair with Pair,

the wines, the Chateau Brillon. Yeah, So what what I think about that whole thing is that listen. I think people should be able to have conversation. Joe's having conversations of people that have vastly different ideas about the way to handle coronavirus. I think that at the end of the day, when you have a controversial topic, I don't believe the best way to handle it is to shut

down speech. I think you should talk more about it from more angles and get more views, more opinions, and that way you flesh everything out, You get it all out in the open, and then consensus is will emerge and people will start seeing the avenues and what's right and what's wrong. But to me, by shutting people down, it doesn't necessarily help, and it makes people somewhat paranoid, and they go, well, why are you not letting me listen to that person? And why are you preventing me

from hearing this? I think a mature country has to be able to engage in those conversations, you know, from all sides. Comedian Tim Dillon, If you're enjoying this conversation, tell a friend and be sure to follow. Here's the thing on the I heart rate, EO app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. When we come back, Tim Dillon shares with us why the many facets of his personality don't always make it into his act. By'm Alec Baldwin and you're listening to hear is the thing?

When Tim Dillon was he made several transformative decisions after being cold for jury duty. It would ultimately change the course of his life. I was a jouring to murder trial. It was the whole distance. Yeah, it was two weeks in Long Island. Murder and torture absolutely great for me, a huge learning experience. It was kind of I couldn't afford going on like the murdering, Well, when I want to give you a chance to represent, the murder and

torture case wasn't great for you. The experience was great for the experience of being on the jury was great for you. Absolutely. I'm trying to help someone get there. We go. I stepped in anyway someone was going to have to sit in that box, and I did. And it made me really look at my life at five and go, you know, I haven't gone after what I wanted to go after, which is being a comedian of

making people laugh. And you know, the jury, I would make them laugh every day during lunch and they would go, we hear the most horrible things every day, but you're really funny. And you know, have you ever thought of, you know, doing comedy? I go, yeah, you know, I think about it. I've never done it. So after that trial, I really started, you know, living the way I wanted to live. So you were still using and drink. I was still drinking during the trial. I forget what the

trial was really about. Yeah I didn't. Yeah, I didn't pay too much attention. He'd seemed guilty. I didn't really, you know, I didn't like the look of him, the way he kind of just scowled. But no, I was seemed guilty. He seemed guilty. He seemed odd and and I'm like, well, I would even be in the room if he's not guilty. But so, I mean, life was fifty and he um. He was very guilty. He was actually incredibly guilty. The only thing that was who did

he kill the mother of his children? And he was he was stalked or he was a bad guy, and I didn't feel bad putting away. I would have hated to do a jury, and I wouldn't have done it if it was like a drug dealer or somebody who like makes a mistake and does something that they shouldn't have. This was a guy who was a hardened criminal who stalk and killed a woman. He go away, no problem there. But you know, through that experience, I learned that I had a talent for humor and I should sober room.

I was the guy. I mean, it was so fun for people to be a part of this, and people still message me and go great week of my life, Great week of my life. So to me, it's a test of your commuic ability to kind of go in there where everybody. Every day it's murder, torture, murder, torture, lacerations, and for me to go in there and just kind of again a breath of fresh air. You know, as soon as I heard that it was going to be a big, high profile trial, I didn't want to get out.

I said, let me stay in because I knew that it was gonna the impactful, so I am curious. I answered questions that would get me in, like when the prosecutor said, so, we've looked up your name, because when they get seriously run your name, which goes you've had your license suspended, you must hate the cops. And I said, well, you know I didn't pay my tickets. I hate myself

for being irresponsible. And I just sit back and then you know, the d A would look and go okay, and then the defense attorney would come up and should go, murder and torture. How can you be impartial when you hear these things? And I go, they're just words. I've seen no proof. So I finally got it after it was my best audition, and I got it, and and it changed my life. You know, I left that going, wow,

life is short. You gotta do what you want now you are sexuality wise, you could identify as gay, Yes, but what do people say to you. I don't seem like, yeah, no, no, no, you said that that. I just canceled yourself. I said it, you did, you just said that. But but my point is that do people in the gay community say you're not gay enough? Outside of the gay community, they do. In the gay community. There's all different types of gay

people on television. There's one time I think that you know that, but I'm saying that there's a lot of I think you know, there's casting, so they cast, somebody is gay, they cast, and it's usually you know, very a young, good looking somebody in the design and very stylish or whatever. But that's not It's a big community. And I'm out of and I have you know, my comedy is about who I am and honesty and all

that ship. So I don't care about anything. But I think the gay community is a lot broader than people think. And you don't play it up in your comedy. I don't play it up. But I mean friends who I won't comment on, sure are very funny, but they clearly want they want it clear I'm gonna do a set of gay. Yes, I have jokes a few jokes about it, but not a ton. It's well known if you're a fan of mine. But yeah, I've never felt it to be the funniest thing. Whereas yeah, I've never felt it

to be the funniest part of me. When it works and works in and it doesn't you leave it out. Yeah, I just never felt like some people it is why they are interesting, and that's not me. Some people it is why they are different or where their perspective is completely from There's nothing wrong with that in the slightest. But with me, I think I have a lot of different things going on, and uh, you know, it's it's

a part of my identity. There's only one tell Yeah, there's only one clue mention ex Benedict, No, no, exactly that discussing that was there was a close second when you said Palm Springs my friends, yes, who are gay, have gay people like the desert. We don't like the woods. Lesbians like woods, So a lot of lesbian friends. Bomb Springs is the street, Yes, a lot of gay people in and and old people, people who are in their nineties and hundreds. Now I want to finish with this, Yes,

first of all, we didn't get to Long Island. But that's okay, you know, well we we've both done enough for Long Island. But I no, no, I drove my wife out there. We did in East Hampton, but we we we we we go out there and take my wife to Massive pequal go to we go to MASSI people a lot, but I took her out here this past summer. And we drive through and we do my

drive down want to a parkway. We go to Jones Beach and here's gil Go and there's the water tower, and here's where I was a lifeguard, and there's Fire Island, and we go through Massive Piqua. Let me get to my neighborhood I grew up in. And we go down into the bowels into the south where the canals are in the street sour shows and we go buy a house. Now you would have thought this place it was a business. They had so many Trump and Q and on flags fluttering.

It was a windy day and literally like you couldn't get that out of designer Steven Spielberg couldn't be filmed it better. All these things are flapping and pulsingting and went Trump Q and on from my cold dead hands. They must have had a hundred of them on the lawn. And my wife said to me, she goes, this is where you're from. I said, you know, we really didn't have this when I was a kid. Yeah, it's wild.

It's I think it's always been a conservative place, but it's now loudly political where it's like everybody, it's loudly political. And I find that the politics and geography is the most depressing thing to me, because I want to like or hate a place on its merits. If you're a surfer, and if you love Trump and you're a surfer, you

can't live in Texas. There's certain parts of the country that makes sense for certain lifestyles, and now that everything has become so crazy, Like I have friends in Florida now that are like, well, we're here because it's free and we love Trump. It's like, know, you're there because you were tired at thirty two, Like you know what I mean, You're there because you just want to drink all day and God bless you. There's nothing wrong with that. Don't tie it into politics. You just want to get

drunk on your boat. But I believe that people like I'll look at people, and I'll say, not if you've got to know me really like, Okay, there's no way you can get to know me through social media or through the business. If you got to know me, not, Oh, if you knew me, you'd like me. But we'd at least stand a chance. The way things are, there is no chance. And I'm in Montana shooting a movie and the weekend comes and I don't have my chargers with me.

I'm looking around my hotel. I'm like, you know, I usually have a bag full of my charges. I gotta go to the best buy. I call up uber. The guy comes and picks for the hotel in a huge pickup truck with a back cab in a second row, and I get inside that I sit there and I said, I'm so sorry. I said, where is this place? He said, It's on the other side of town. And I go, real tough cowboy guy, probably sixty, and he goes, it's

on the other side of town. He goes, well, this time of day, on a weekend, it shouldn't be too bad, he said, the traffic. He said, it's being Sunday, Sunday morning because the place opened a ten And I go great, and I said, I don't know this town. I'm here visiting. And he literally goes. He goes to, you're a visit of town because you're not here for that, Alex baldwoindn't failm are you? And I so help me. God, I got my sunglasses on and my mask and I go, no, no,

what's that? He goes, well, they're shooting some film here with that Alex Baldwin. As a pause, he goes, I can't stand him. He's a liar and a and a wife beater. He names all this all the ship that they've accused me of, which is true, and he and he goes, I can't stand him. I go really, I go, wow, I mean, I I mean, I know who he is. I know his films, but I didn't know he was. Is he he's all those things? He said, yeah. I just can't stay in him. Then there's a pause, very pregnant.

He puts the music on, some country music, and we get to the best Buy and we pull up and his name is like Doug or something, it's on his his license. And I take up my lessons and I go, Doug, I am Alex Baldwin. And I hold up my license and give it to him through the screen and he takes my license, looks at it, and he looks at me in the rear roomrror and he goes, Jesus Christ, you are Alex. And I said, Doug, you can't believe everything you read about people. I'm just asking you to

consider that. A lot of what you read it's just fucking nonsense, and it's it's click bait for people who want to sell things. I said, it really isn't true. He said, well, you may be right. I'll read a lot of stuff and I don't know what's true. I don't know what's true. I go, well, you just tell people that you drove me in the cabin, that we had a nice conversation, what have you. There's is no hope of how do you permeate that and talk to understand you. Let me finish with this that I want

you to really consider acting. Well, that's very kind. Want you to consider acting. I'll tell you why. I would like to studios to consider me. Well, but i'd like you to I'll tell you. I'll tell you why. Because one thing people can't fake, which is very important in some roles. You play one thing people have or don't have it. You can't fake is authority. And if you have that authority, you can go do twelve Angry Men.

You could you you could do the Skies the limit and you have the intellectual velocity, you have the verbal facility that you have with words, and the authority. You could play the Lee J. Cob role in on the Waterfront. You should really think about that. I'm gonna think about you can't buy that. I Am going to think about it. I do hope that, you know, more things come down the pike, you know, I mean that is it's an Asian for the movies. We have all the same people.

You should go make movies. You really should act all right. Well, hey, it's self lobby if you don't, because you really because you've got a great quality. Well, I appreciate it, and thank you very much. My thanks to comedian Tim Dillon. He'll be back on the road making people laugh this spring. Check out his upcoming tour dates at Tim Dillon Comedy dot com. This episode was recorded at c DM Studios in New York City. We're produced by Kathleen Russo, Zach McNeese,

and Maureen Hoban. Our engineer is Frank Imperial, I'm at like Baldwin. Here's the thing. Is brought to you by my Heart Radio