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Kris Kardashian Jenner

Nov 21, 201120 min
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Alec talks with Kris Kardashian Jenner, the self-described “momager” of the Kardashian clan. Kris explains what it’s like to live and work with her family: “you can’t get more controlling than that.”

Kris describes her family’s retail roots--her grandmother owned a candle store, her mother opened a store, and Kris herself, along with her daughters, opened two clothing stores.

“I sold t-shirts,” says Kris. “This is what I did all day long.”

For Kris, a reality show like Keeping Up with the Kardashians was a no-brainer: “if somebody says, we could...shine a camera on your shop every day, hello, I’m signing up.”

Kris tells Alec her daughters are surprisingly frugal--they have taught her about business and work ethic. She thinks she’s taught them about drive.

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I'm Alec Baldwin, and here's the thing. I'd like to play a little word association. Say the first thing that comes to your mind when I say Kardashian. Okay, okay, I get that now. I'd like you to listen in on a conversation I had with Chris Kardashian Jenner, the matriarch of the Kardashian Empire. When we're done, let's do a word association again and see if you have a different response. I met Chris over ten years ago. Sing a song with me. Chris, ready, sing a song. We're

going to sing. The song will come out tomorrow. I'll bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow. Our daughters attended school together. And added bonus there was that Chris's husband, Olympic decathlon champion Bruce Jenner, was their private track coach. And then and say, okay, that's enough, right. Chris Jenner always calls the shots. She describes herself this way, complete control freak. She and her husband Bruce have ten kids between them.

We're most familiar with their five girls, Courtney, Chloe, Kim, Kendall, and Kylie, who, along with their parents, are the subjects of Keeping up with the Kardashians and three spinoff shows on the cable channel E. This is a family that's used to publicity even before their TV shows existed. A former boyfriend of Kim's leaked to sex video of the two of them. It's clear this family has made the most of the spotlight and nothing is off topic. Seriously,

that you need a bikini acs from here. By now, we're all pretty used to the reality TV concept. But in the early nineteen seventies, when PBS turned a camera on the Loud Family in northern California to create the program An American Family, this was breaking new ground. The Louds are neither average nor typical. No family is. Did you watch the American Family? You can see the Louds when they want. Ever watch that show so that you

know who they are. Right. So, American Family was considered the mother of all reality shows, and the Louds were this family where they kept the camera on them and a lot of things happened. The sun Lanceloud came out as a homosexual on camera, the parents split up on camera. It was really like the family had allowed themselves to be shot verite style, hour after hour after hour, and these people had no sense of humor. How are you doing? Oh, I up from a nap, didn't you? I'm getting and

a boy. And how about food? Are you getting a lot of food? Well? I think you guys have to stay united and realize that anything that either one of you does builds the whole. Kardashian brand. My sister, Yes, the brand. The Kardashian Collection, a line of clothes and accessories that Chris and her family recently launched. Last year, the family earned sixty million dollars in profits. Chris Kardashian Jenner explained where it all began. We've always been a

really close, big family. I met Bruce. I had four kids, he had four kids. We got married, had two kids. No, we have this family with ten kids. So your first husband, Robert and I was married four kids with him while I was going through my divorce. I met Bruce Jenner at the very end of like, I was days away from a finalization of my divorce and never really wanted to date much more. I was like, I was done. I just wanted to raise my kids. And you know, it kicked my ass a little bit. Even though I

was the one who left the marriage. It was really hard met Bruce and we got married seven months later. Anyway, we had this big, crazy family and everybody who spent any amount of time with us would say, you guys should do your own reality show. They would observe the swirlings on was an active behind craziness everything you see. Yeah, a lot of big, crazy personalities in one household makes

for a lot of drama at all times. So what happened was we were having dinner one night with a friend of mine, Dina Katz, who happens to be the casting director for Dancing with the Stars, came by the house for dinner with her husband, saw the pandemonium that was going on in my house with Courtney walking in and Kim swirling around and um, somebody yelling for my seven year old line one, and she was like, this is nuts. Do you guys need your own reality show?

She said, you know, I just came from a meeting at Ryan's Seacrests office today and they're looking for a reality show. If I call him, will you take a meeting? And I said absolutely. Within thirty days we were shooting our show. So was the show that you're doing the show that was pitched that it evolved when I came home and said, family, we have a show. We all sat down, especially Kim, and said, if we're going to do this, we're going to roll camera at all times.

What did they say about that? Everybody agreed. Courtney was a little hesitant. She's my oldest. She is the most practical, she thinks about things. She's the most like you. No, because I'm more spontaneous. I'm very If you said to me right now, let's go ski and the Alps, I'd go, let's go. She can't even pick out carpet. Takes her a week to pick a color, so she she had to digest the whole thing. And that's fine. She did that, and she decided, you know what, this could be a

lot of fun. I think what attracted all of us was the fact of, Wow, we're going to be able to I feel like the luckiest woman in the world because I get to get up every single day and I work with my kids and my family, and I mean, you can get more controlling than that. To me, you are a parent, and you are a confidant and a friend with a parent to the extent that any parent can be. But also, you know, are you the one calling the shots. Business wise, who tells the three beatles

here what to do? Me? You do? Yeah, So you're the boss, you are the more manager, and you either tell them or cajole them into doing what you think needs to be done for their business interests. Now, that's a good way to put it, telling cajole. Do the girls wake up some days to say I don't want to be this person. I don't want to do this

crap another day? That's grind the grind. Lots of people think that doing a show like we do is very easy, but what comes with it is you now have a responsibility to not only your family, but you have a responsibility to an entire network. Now you're the number one show hit show on a network that's getting incredible numbers. You've remade that network. I don't know about that. But we work really hard. These girls have the best work ethic.

They will wake up at four o'clock in the morning and they work until they fall down, and they get up the next day and they do it all over again. Courtney amazes me every single day. She's a new mom. She gave birth and a week later they were doing a photo shoot. I lay in bed for ten days

after I gave birth and eight bond bonds. And one of the things I'm wondering is could the Kardashians as the public know them, could they have existed in Chicago or Cincinnati or how much of your life you Chris Jenner is driven by the Los Angeles cultural impart in my mind, one that focuses on wealth, fame, beauty. It definitely would not be the same show someplace else. There would be a much different dynamic because of the way that I would maybe naturally raise my kids. But here's

the interesting thing. You've seen where I live. I've seen a couple of places you've lived, rural in hidden hills, in the community of the shinier house now than used to have. After that, you know, we've lost up the floors, but it's still a neighborhood that's horsey and rural and family. You know, it's the kind of place where we enjoy spending our time, even though we have that Hollywood craziness

swirling around us at all times. Los Angeles, because I moved there when I was an it's really all I know. I get energy off of it. It's what makes me tick. There's always something to do I love the Hollywood side of it. What do you think the girls would have done with their lives? Have they not been doing what they're doing before we did the show? Where were they headed? We opened stores, one of them was Smooched, the children's clothing store, remember, and the other was Dash. All that

was going on long before. Yeah, we would have been so happy. This is starting with my mom. My mother had to do something to make a living for herself. My grandmother had a candle store in Lahoya. What happened was my dad passed away. He was in a car accident, was in I See You for sixteen weeks in a hospital in San Diego. Died my stepdad. And during that time, my mother called me up and she said, listen, I'm going to close my store because I really want to go be with your dad. Every day at I see

you and I see try not closing your store. You just bought all the clothes for Easter. I'm coming down. I'm going to run your store. I would go to my mom's for five days, come home for five of hours. And this went on until my dad eventually passed away and I came home after the funeral, and I was very sad, and I called up Courtney and I said, Courtney, I know this sounds crazy, but I'm opening up a children's store. I miss working at Grandma's. Do you want

to be my partner. We had no business plan, we had no idea what we were doing. We drove around Calabasas. I said, I like that store. I leased it. That day we went to the mart. We bought like seven Bruce after seven months. You're a decisive gala in a good way. But what I want to say to you is how much did you make decisions? What if one of your daughters turned down you tomorrow said I'm out,

I'm done. I respect my kids so much for their own particular personalities, but the one thing that's so important to me is their faith. I've taken them to church since the day they were born. It's such a big part of our Yeah, well he's on the golf course, we go to church. We have long conversation about, you know, the difference between what's really superficial and fluffy and everything else.

And tell me about that. Because these are girls who obviously are characterized and are framed as kind of the you know, the the zenith of kind of of the moment, current young beauty, and three years from now it's going to be keeping up with the Clons or somebody, right. So I think that what makes them so amazing is they don't take themselves too seriously. When you get to know them, you really realize. People will say to me,

I spent time with Kim and she's unbelievable. She's gorgeous on the inside too, And I'm like, yeah, how much as a woman have you been focused on and thus imparted to your daughters that as women you need to have your own financial security. How much of this was about your drive that you want your own money that's yours. It's never a bad idea to have your own pile. Absolutely,

I think that they're very motive. Courtney is the most frugal and my oldest, and she loves business and she loves making money, and so does Kim, and so does Chloe, and they love. They will scold me, mom, why would you buy that? You know that's way too much money? Or well, how could you do that and save for a rainy day? And like the chables returned. They're telling me like, you're in the family flow your role mom,

because you're like out of control. Yeah. They have taught me something about business and work ethic, and I have interested them about drive and about having your own things. All my children except for Robert and Kendall and Kylie have gone out and bought their own homes. They're working people who contribute to society. You know, you have to look at the whole picture and go, wow, you know what.

They may be crazy, but they're good crazy. More of my conversation with Chris Kardashian Jenner is coming up in a minute. I'm Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the thing. This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to here's the thing. I'm talking with Chris Kardashian jen Or, the matriarch of the Kardashian clan. Was this the plan? Did you think you were going to end up where you are now doing what you're doing with this multi headed hydra of jewelry and fragrances and clothes? And it

was the wish, the fantasy. It was to have a clothing line. The fantasy was to have a fragrance. We had retail stores. I was working in a shop. I sold t shirts. This is what I did all day long. When you have a retail store, you want customers. Somebody says to you, we could do a TV show and we're going to shine a camera on your shop every day. Hello, I'm signing up. The TV show was really just something you did because it's it's the other things that you wanted to do and all just kind of give up.

Let me ask you this, I think I got really lucky. Well, I mean, I'm not quite sure that I would ever want to live that kind of life. Someone said to me, what's your greatest dream me? And I said, well, I've got a whole raft of them, and there's many things I'd like to do. I said, my dream would be to sleep in the same bed for one year and never get on an airplane for a year. But you have to remember that most of the year, if we're shooting, I'm in my own bed, in my own house a long.

I don't know if I could do that meaning contruse to me. I wanted my home to be this sanctuary where when I closed the door, that's where I knew there was no cameras and I could say the F bomb and I could be whatever I wanted to be. Now to link this to something else. You know your husband, Bruce, he's a pretty rock rib conservative guy. The Bruce that I knew was in a network of very you know, kind of moderately conservative golfing buddies with Arnold. He's not

a Hollywood liberal by any stretch. And he and I would joke with each other about that. I'd pull up to the school to drop my door in a Prius and Bruce would be like, in an escalade and he would laugh at me. He'd be like, that's what you're driving, buddy, Yeah, he's crazy. What has this whole experience done to your marriage or for your marriage? And what's it done to

or for Bruce's career? Meaning Bruce had his own identity as a man who not only won the decathlon, the Olympic gold medal in the decathlon, but posted very, very valid times. The score that he posted was a world record eight thousand, six hundred and thirty four points. And I will tell you that last week at the US Truck and Field Championships, the guy who posted number one still did not have eight thousand, six hundred and so Bruce.

Everybody knows who Bruce's and he's this athletic. God, Believe me. When I was a kid, I was at the breakfast table with the wheat. He's on my table, and you know, I was going, how do I get to be him? So? What has this whole experience meant to Bruce and to your marriage? Bruce is amazingly I don't know where he gets it, this inner strength and character and zen that he has deep down inside where a bomb could go off in the living room and he would go, what

was that? Nothing rattles him and he I think has great faith in me. He trusts me. What bothers Bruce and really gets him crazy mad is when they talk inappropriately, like Chloe. You know, she can talk like a sailor sometimes. You know, they've just always been a little rough around the edges, not Kim at all. But Courtney can really sing a fine tune and Chloe, Yeah, Chloe can drop

the bomb. I didn't raise them like that. I mean I once in a while can have a potty mouth, for sure, but you don't like ray your kids with, you know, flinging f bombs all day long. Chloe really has this little sassy personality that can really get under What do you think that comes from is it another manifestation of the one who least really wants to be there Because she's the most private, That's how she is.

She's very salty, like pretzel salty. When you've dealt with some of the most painful moments, real scandal for one of the girls, that was really, really tough. And you and I remember we spoke. I know you called me. I remember I called you and I said to you, remember to tell her Kim that it's not like she was caught on tape counterfeiting money, beating a child, robbing a bank, stealing a person, a homeless person. She was caught on tape doing something that everybody does all day long,

if they had their way. It was done like it's an unhealthy practice. How did you help her get through that? And how do you help your kids get through because there's still young people. Kim got through that bad time with her faith. She did something that she learned from us. Don't ever, ever, ever, ever do something like that again. Were you wanted him from the beginning? Did you know? Did you have a sensity? You know what? I focused my energy on her and just helping her through a

bad time. But here's the thing, Kim is a survivor. Kim landed on her feet, and that's what I admire about her, because she didn't let the naysayers and the negative, you know, nasty comments get her down. But it taught a couple of things. You asked about the younger girls, and I think it taught them a very good lesson. The biggest lesson is obviously, don't ever do something like that. But better than that, you always have your family. That's the bottom line for us, no matter what is we

love each other so much. You can do something that's negative and still come home and I'm going to wrap my arms around them no matter what. Even though I know that you are very close your family in this incredible way, all these crazy menu of things you guys have been through together on camera, camera has actually made you even closer, is true? This experience has made your family a close family even closer. Just shows that videotape

can be your friend. I feel unbelievably lucky to have had these cameras capture the last six years of my life the best home movies. Sometimes I look back on Chloe and Lamar's wedding that I planned in nine days, and I cry every time I had worked my whole life raising my kids. They're my life. Chris Kardashian Jenner. She calls herself the momager of her plan. They recently finished season six of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. She's hoping for twenty six. The Kardashians continue to find new

ways to make the most of the spotlight. Just seventy two days into her new marriage, Kim Kardashian filed for divorce. Now let's try that word association again, Kardashian. See, I'm Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the thing, m

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