Can the U.S. and Iran rescue talks from ‘unrealistic’ expectations?
Apr 13, 2026•18 min
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Episode description
President Trump has put in place a blockade in the Strait of Hormuz after the U.S. and Iran failed to strike a deal to end the war. We speak with former U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman, who served as lead negotiator on the 2015 Iran nuclear deal under former President Barack Obama, about what comes next.
And then we talk with Pakistani Sen. Sherry Rehman about how negotiations played out in Islamabad.
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And then we talk with Pakistani Sen. Sherry Rehman about how negotiations played out in Islamabad.
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