139: Tab Minimalist!

Can I get a temp check? I need a temp check. Are you talking about my temperament or the temperature here? No, temperament, we're not concerned about that. Uh, nope. Nope. Uh temperature. Oh, okay. Outside. Well, not your internal temperature. I don't need to know about that. I just need to know the outside temperature. As I said to you a few minutes ago, I was standing I was sitting outside in the sun, soaking up the rays in the blue sky. But it is only eighteen degrees Celsius. I'm going to need that in both. You're going to need to convert. Well, while he's doing that, It's 14 degrees Celsius here, which is 57. 2 Fahrenheit. Okay, perfect. 18 degrees. Still waiting on Andrew to convert. He's got a spreadsheet open to do weather conversion. 6. 4 Fahrenheit. Not too bad. Pretty good. Don't you have like some sort of fancy launch bar? Thing that does that for you instantly. He does, he just forgot. Probably, but I just plugged it into Kag and used up one of my 300 searches. Oh, that was well worth it. I'm happy to use up one 300 of your searches on that. Okay. It is 8 to 90 here, which I believe is thirty to thirty two C. Nice, pleasant. No. It's awful. It's hot. I don't like this new not app. I just accidentally closed the tab. I don't like it being in a browser. Not a fan. Hold on, we're waiting for Andrew to reopen a tab. Okay. I'm back. I'm back. Oh, you're back. Oh, okay. Maybe if you had a browser with tabs, it worked better. Andrew, do you also enjoy it being nested within like a Drive app? No. On the iPhone? No, I was saying this to Jason before the call. I was, it's annoying that it's an actual document that you kind of have to actively open. Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, yeah. We're going to go back to notes because no, we're not. No, notes sucks. I hate the font. I can't stand hearing the two of you. No, the font. I can't deal with the notes font. I don't actually care. I just like stirring the pot. Nope, we're going back to notes. We're going back to Markerfeld. That's that's what we're doing. That's that's another way of saying my name, I think. Is that what I heard? Marker Feldt, yeah, Marker Fel. It's like when I get the field notes email and I go, Oh, Martin. And then it's like, not even joking. I literally think somehow you're emailing me for some reason, but it's never you. I think I might actually start giving that as a name when I get, you know, order a coffee. Marker. I should. Mark. Because no one understands Martin anyway. I'll just be like, and you it. Marker. What? Marker. What? Oh. It's the same. Trich Sans. If you say Marker, they won't even question it. They'll write it exactly perfect, just despite you. Perfect. It's June. Do you know that it's June? Is it June where you all are? It's June here. I 'm just converting that to Celsius. Yeah, just. Just. Okay. Okay. So it's June in Fahrenheit and June in Celsius. Trying to think if there's anything that is important in the month of June. My birthday. Let's see. There's a birthday, but that's not really super important. Oh, I know. Arcadia June. It's in the title. Can I just rewind that? Yeah. It's actually E. I knew you were going to say that, and if you weren't, I was going to bring it up for you. Thank you. That 's the other bit. That's the thing in June. That's true. That's true. There's Arcadia June. And then far down the list, E. And then really far down the list, Andrew's birthday. I think is the that's the list. And for any newer listeners, E is Andrew's beloved Australian take on end of financial year, right? Big deal at Officeworks. Head down to Officeworks. Get yourself a bargain. Huge. So many thumb drives to be had for almost l no money. It's they're they're basically giving them away, really. Yeah. So get on get so you know get on down to off work obviously, but uh Arcadia June is happening right now. And I gotta say, I could use a little more competition in there for a certain person that seems to be Basically, running away with this thing, which running kind of fits the brand for them, if you know who I'm talking about. Not his name, though, funnily enough. No, it 's like that's a taunt. It's ironic. Yeah, yeah. If we could get some more people, this is a plea right here. So if we could just, you know, marker plea. If we could get one, two, a hundred more people. To just really go hard on Arcadia games for like a week or two, let's just, you know, let's get up on those heels and maybe kick the feet out a little bit, like sweep the leg. on a couple of those categories on certain individuals, because I think we're going to need to make sure that there's stiff competition. In Arcadia June for, again, certain individuals who shall remain nameless. Look, I did my bit. I scored 13 in basket. Well, that's a valiant effort. 13. Wow. Let me just check this on bas, you say. 13. Yes. Okay. Let's see. That is not on the board currently. Third place for bas, which is what you're closest to, is currently at,. So you're right. You're right there. How? Right there. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm not very good. I'm not very good at Arcad. That 's okay. You can't win anyway. So it's kind of okay that you're not. Great at the games. To put it lightly. But yeah, Arcadia June happening. Still tons of time. And if you want a copy of the game. We can get you a copy of the game, I. Oh, yeah. Yeah, email us. We'll give you a copy of either Arcadia Sports or Arcadia or both. Just send us an email and we'll get you hooked up. Yeah, some people have already taken advantage of that, but we have a few left, I. Yeah, we got like get as many people into this to boot off said participant. Yeah. Do we love? No, we don. We love he who shall not be named. But, um, yeah. With most of our heart we do for sure. I've always been a tab a tab minimalist. Yeah, you have these people that have the hundreds of tabs open. Never been that guy. I get anxiety if I have too many tabs open. So I am constantly. Command W, Command W, the crap out of my tabs. Well, I think we're on to our first topic now, so I think it's a good segue. Is tab min the hashtag you used on LinkedIn? Because it sounds like it should be. Yeah, we got, oh, back-to-back browser talk. Look at that. Yeah. Mine's quick. I'm going to get out of the way. I'm still on Safari. So get out of the way, Martin. That's done. Off you go. Let's hear the next chapter in your browser minimalist journey. He's got his coffee. He's going to sit back once again. He's just going to. Let's hear the drama unfold about how your life shifts have crumbled around you. I don't I don't have drama this time, actually. I was just going to merely put a point into the world of the Arc browser, which I've been using for three years now, I think. Still the best browser ever made. And then they decided they want to do something different. Okay. Dia. Uh, not great. No id to say. If you get what I'm saying. I thank you. Sounds like the end of your story, Ark, Jason. Oh, look at that. You guys are great. I love you guys. You're just perfect. Yeah, so ARK is wonderful. It's still great. I know everybody like jump shipped or whatever, but it's still the same as it was. So I'm just going to keep using it until it stops working. And Dia is indeed not. I think I said somewhere Ark is eleven out of ten. And Dia was like negative four out of a hundred. So if that gives you any kind of scale for where I feel these two things belong. Why is it so why is it so bad? Um, okay, so it's not a browser, I'll say. It is, hey, how can we basically wrap Chat GPT and call it a browser. Ah, not into it. Basically, it's just, it's not a browser. Like, it's full stop, it's not. It is a entry point into an LLM and that is absolutely all it is. Every other browser/slash thing already has. So I don't really understand the like, ooh, we did something everybody already did. Like, okay, I don't know. I assume they have conviction and feel that they're doing the right thing, good on them. But Arc like legitimately had really good features and functionality that no one else was doing. They executed it perfectly. And then decided new shiny. So it's too bad, really. But I'm going to keep using it. It still does exactly what it did before, which is fine. So there you go. Sad. Sad. Well, I'm back to Firefox after using. How's that going? Oh, I was on Viv for a number of months. And there was nothing particularly wrong with Viv other than I felt like I wasn't using any of its features. And it was kind of it's quite a busy browser. It's got lots of little stuff It's got a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. All the stuff around the edges of the the window. A lot of stuff that I was looking at and going, I'm never using that. I'm not even looking at that. I try turning it off, but it's got the Chromium engine in it as well. That's the one everybody loves, right? Chromium. So, how long were you using V? Four or five months? Four or five months. So you barely made it through two seasons of Viv's Four. Such a nerdy joke. So nerdy. I hope that sigh, the sigh that you did, I really hope that stays in because it was kind of just perfect. But go ahead. So yeah, uh so Viv, I like, why am I bothering with this? And then Chromium uh sorry, yeah, it's on the Chromium platform. And Google have now done that man three thing, which makes it harder for ad block to work as well as a bunch of other stuff. I understand there 's some positives to that change, but From my perspective, it seemed like all downside. Positive for them, not so much. Yeah. Yeah. So and look, I just recently I succumbed. I subscribed. There's a new lower cost YouTube with no ad plan, right? So which I bought. You used to have to get YouTube premium and I used to run it through like a Turkish account using a VPN, which they They closed that loophole, unfortunately. But now in Australia, there is now the the YouTube I think they call it YouTube Light with no ad. Something very, it's like you don't get anything, that's a good name, but you don't get ads. And I was, that's the one for me. I don't care about any of your other add-ons. So in terms of ad blocking for YouTube, that's not my issue here with the Manifest three. But it was more a case of I'm not using Viv in the way it should be, I'm not using the power features. I was like, but I don't and I want to try something that isn't Chromium. And there's Safari and Orion with WebKit. But I've got them both installed. But eh, WebKit is just seems like it's causing more problems than it's worth these days. Sorry, check that. The developers aren't developing against WebKit, so they are causing the problems. But the browser seems to choke up a bit more than it used to. So I was like, let's go back to Geck, the Geck engine, and Firefox, and let's see what they're going they've got going on. I tried that Zen browser, which is kind of like a Firefox rip off of Arc, and the thing that put me off with that is bas this one password integration is a bit flaky. So I didn't didn't stick around with that. So I was like, I just going to go pure Firefox. And it's actually quite good. Way faster than what I remember it to be. It's giving me everything that I need from ext point of view, and it just kind of is a browser and doesn't seem to be much more than that. And I know, like, I'm not in love with Firefox or Mozilla for all the other things that they're doing, like Killing Pocket. And I don't think the development of Firefox is actually that great if you look into the the inner workings of the community. But for me as an end user, it's like this is pretty good. So for the time being, I'm using Firefox. We'll see how long that lasts. Four or five months. I'd say so. I would guess, yeah. It's okay. I thought the Zen one was kinda cool, but I have to have the same browser on mobile and desk. I just have to use Safari on mobile. But I just don't care about syncing. Okay. See, I find that funny because that seems to me to be one of the primary most important things of using browsers today. You don't care that things like bookmarks or things that you use are actually in sync? It's all ephemeral. Like my bookmarks, I copy them over, right? Like I copy them between the browsers, but then it's just like I don't really bookmark much. Or even just favourites or just things that you want to have appear the same way. I just find it kind of confusing that tabs that you cl that you close on accident. I just Like I said, I close tabs all the time. So I'm kind of, I feel like my browser is almost like a fresh slate every time I go into it, anyway. See, to me, like it's not as extreme as what I'm about to say, but you using different browsers on different platforms or devices is like going, ah, you know what, I think I'll use the Finder at home and yeah, I might just Tried duplicating everything in Windows File Explorer somewhere else just for, you know, what. But I find I mean, what are you really missing? Like, because I'll just use a different operating system. Because everything seems to be. cookie sync on the server anyway. Like so the thing that I can most relate to would be like forums, and you like want to keep track of what you've read and what you haven't read. But everybody uses dis now. And that syncs across browsers. So I don't lose anything. As long as I log in, I don't see what I'm gaining from having a history or a synced instance of a tab. I just load the tab somewhere else. Who cares? Fair enough. Maybe we're just visiting very different things because your example of a dis forum does not feature in my life at all. Oh, really? No. I just, if that 's important to you. What 's a website that you typically visit? This is my problem, actually. I think sometimes I want to go to a website and I can't think of one. To me, it's just more the issue of, and this is why I say the syncing thing is more important. You know, I just want to know that my favorites that pop up. In like the Safari home page that you set up are the same everywhere, so I know where I'm going. It's the same as I would like my app icons to be unpred or Useful places so I don't have to go, Oh, where was that thing? Or I opened something on my phone and I get home and it's like, Oh, iCloud tabs. There you go. Launch it and bring it over. It's just more the knowing predictably where everything is without having to burrow down to find it somewhere else or open it again. That's it's not so much the websites that I visit, it's more just knowing how to get to them efficiently. I just type it in. Sync tabs. I just type it in the URL. brows thing. The URL. I go out for the day. I 'm doing different web thingies throughout the day. And I like to know when I come back to my desk I can like bring those all up again and yeah yeah I can really triage them or do whatever I was gonna do like oh it was that thing I was looking up at the whatever store like just having all that stuff synced is nice It's interesting how many different use scenarios usage scenarios there are with browsing. It's so fundamental, but we seem to be doing it all different ways. I'm probably the most inefficient. I put my hand up there. Yes. Fair enough. Hey, hey, Martin. Martin, I just loaded Safari on my Mac here. And it's brought up as its homepage some of the iCloud tabs. And I'm like, oh, that's actually quite handy. I could just click that. It 's very useful. And I'm not here to say, oh, Apple's the best or defend Apple, because we all know that company has various issues at the moment, but in terms of my experience of what it's intended to do That convenience is always there. I could just carry on that shopping that I was doing on my iPad earlier. That's pretty candy. Yeah, it's pretty easy. They could use some def mark Hey, guess what? If you want to give it a saf guy. Oh, well, so four to five months down to four to five days, it sounds like. Okay. Yay! I'm back. How did you do it? Did you guys miss me? You were out of purgatory. I yeah. I I got locked out of my super secure messaging app. So I was forced to use a not secure messaging app to message everyone that I was locked out of my super secure mess App, which was interesting. Yeah, it's turns out they're pretty serious about making sure no one's like impersonating you, which that seems good, actually. Pain in my ass, but Probably pretty good as a feature, I would say. So did you have to send in a blood sample? How far did it go? It went really far. So I don't remember if I already talked about this. If I did, stop me, but I'll try to make it short. On iOS, if you're using Signal, you can add your iPad as a secondary device. I'm not sure why that the iP. I think it's because basically, as I've said many times, the iPhone is the device and everything else is an appendage to the iPhone. Correct. Like, that's just fully true, I think. So, I think adding an iPad does some kind of weird side connection or something. So when I moved off of iOS and I put it on my new phone, that was fine. I transferred over, good to go. I went to try to add it to a tablet. Thinking that it was the same thing when it is not, because those are two wholly distinct devices that are not, they don't have this weird, like the phone is the best thing and everything else connects to it. Everything gets to be its own thing. So, I accidentally actually moved my account to another device and then I freaked out. It was like, no, I don't want it on this one. I want it on my phone. So, I tried to quickly. Get out of that and move it back. And I think that freaked out the system because it was like, whoa, this is like, you're doing weird, sketchy stuff now, trying to move between all these different devices within like Two minutes. So it locked me out. I was like, all right, damn it. Fine. And said, wait a day. Okay, cool. I'll wait a day. Waited a day. Tried it. Sorry, you're locked out. Wait a day. And I was, what? I already did. Okay. This went on for like five days. And finally, I think what I realized was every time I was trying it. The real timer was actually seven days, and I think every time I was trying to log in, I was resetting the seven day counter. So I put a thing in my task manager. I was like, all right, in eight days, or no, I deleted the app from everything I have. So I wouldn't accidentally try to go do it. deleted everything, set it to timer for eight days, came back after eight days, and it got back in. Granted, when you wait that long, it erases your entire account. All of your chats are gone. All of your people you're connected to are gone. Like you're starting from scratch. But again, I kind of appreciate that because the whole point of the thing is like to be secure. And if somebody were to comm my phone number and get into this account, they would have to wait that seven days, at which point they could get in, but none of my stuff is there. all of you would see that that like secret number or whatever had changed, which would alert you hopefully that I had been kidnapped and now being impersonated by you know, uh, authorities. So it's really good. I'm actually really happy that it's as, you know. Robust as it is, but it just when you're used to all of the like super insecure kind of BS chat programs of the last 15 years where you just say like, I forgot my password. They're, here's a new link in your email, and you just get back in immediately. To not be able to do that was like, oh, this sucks for normal people. But I think if you think like step back and think, oh, that's the point. I'm actually pretty appreciative of that. What was super weird, I found, is that while you didn't have signal, I was flummoxed about how to actually communicate with you. Because you same, so you're not on iMessage, all right? So. But you're in another country. So do I send an SM? Like, and then I've got to do like just email. I looked at my phone, I was like, can I message him? I was like, ah. And I was just like, I went to Discord and just used our Discord as like the temporary messaging platform. That was the original way after micro. It Discord, but now it's like that layer underneath. Because normally we're in the group chat with listeners and what do you do? It was weird not having a a known messaging platform that I could reach you on. I was gonna do a an SM well, I think we already talked about it. I was gonna do a group thing with you all with the RCS stuff. And then we talked about it a couple of shows ago, like that doesn't exist there. It's like, okay. Can't do that. And then I thought, well, we could just do, I guess, an SMS one. But then I was like, wait, does SMS Is that still like, do they charge you for SMSs still? I didn't want to get charged 2 cents to say, hey, Jason. Someone on our end in Telstra would be like, oh my god, someone actually used it. Yes, our revenue's back. Yeah, like revenues doubled today because somebody's at an SMS. Yeah, it's been that long since we've done anything with SMS that I don't actually even know. I assume it's still Cost something. I've never You 1 free in your monthly account. Yeah, yeah. Back when you used to have like minutes and texts, and it'd be like, you have a 1 minutes, any minutes, and then you got nights and weekend minutes. Actually, you know what, Andrew, what we can do, we can use Discord to synchronize this because, as you know. Telstra payphones are no longer pay phones anymore in Australia. You don't even have to do that whole one eight hundred reverse thing to get a free call. You just walk down and call. So as long as we message Jason To synchronize at a certain time, and he's there with his phone, he can start a conference call while we stand Matrix style in two different phone booths Good idea. I could be in a phone booth as well. It's like Colin Farrell, but gone even more nuts. Do Americans have phone booths too? I have no idea. Do you have to pay for them? You have to look into this because in Australia, Telstra just made them all like free Wi-Fi hotspots and you just walk up and call. So we've gone down to the fish and chip shop, like a suburb away, and called like our parents for Mac. So he's like, Hello, how are you going, Bubba? Hi, hi, Bab. And he rings them up. He like, oh goodness, it's like a phone in the middle of the street where I can call my grandparents. This is inspirational, right? We could get those little coupler things and we could all put the phone into the thing and then we could record it. And that could actually be an episode. We could do some freaking. We could. How exciting would that be? Yeah. Can you imagine the call quality between me and a payphone here and you both in payphones where you're at on a three-way call? Has to be just pristine. And then somebody would come up behind you and be like, Hurry up, bro. I need to use that phone. No one's been there for three months, but you get on there for five seconds and they're, I need to use that. It's an emergency. Like, ah, I'm trying to record a podcast. Leave me alone. If anyone recalls Dumb and Dumber, it like, get off the phone, and then punches him through the glass. Don't know which one of us would do that. Get off the phone. Bang. Bang. All right. So look forward to that, everyone. We're going be recording a show via payphone at some point. That should be exciting. Oh, gosh. I'm so, so excited for this topic. I know you all are too. Oh. I'm firing. Wait, hold on. Let me go get a coffee like Martin so I can tune out. I'm firing it up. It is. Are you going to screen share? Or is this a business corner? Yeah. All right. So this, okay, so let's just get this right because I'm doing editing with all of the chapter labeling. Right. So business corner. And the topic today is Andrew. Depreciation spreadsheet up. Oh my god. Fantastic. Now, I want you to channel as much as you can, but actually, not as much as you can. I want to balance. Not as much as you can. So we don't lose all listeners, but so you can amuse them slightly with our pain, put on your best kind of balanced corporate voice. Like you're in a corporate presentation, you're sharing your screen. Okay. Let's hear Business Andrew flowing through for all of the listeners. Imagine you're at work. Okay. Everybody, it's a pleasure to be here today to talk about our latest quarterly update on the depreciation. as seen in our business accounts. So the good news is that we have acquired some new assets. The bad news is that, that's totally distorted our financials, but we expect them to return to the mean over the next period of time. My goodness, with these headwinds? Were these headwinds? These are some headwinds. I'm hearing headwinds coming. Are we getting fired, Byrne? I feel like we're about to be laid off. But really, we've only he bought some gadget. And we're laid off now. We've only got ourselves to blame. We've got the team. It's all part of the team's issue because me in my depreciation spreadsheet, I purchased some assets from another team member. that team member being Jason burk. So actually, while this is my depreciation spreadsheet, the changes have been wrought. By Jason burk. Yeah. I've had to add in two new assets and retire another asset. So there's a bit going on. Sounds like there's some key learnings to share, that's for sure. Absolutely. I'm feeling some insights coming up. Are you getting an inkling of an insight? Yeah, so I going to launch into the new assets because that's really the main story here. That's the thing that we're excited about. So, coming on board to our to our ass register, we now have an iPad Pro M four and keyboard. Wow. Which is fantastic. Now thanks to the fantastic logistics work of Jason burk and his team at UPS, That arrived ahead of schedule. So we had a start date and acquisition date of the thirtieth of May twenty twenty five. That was a remarkable shipment, I have to say. It was costly, I will say. But considering other stuff that I've shipped to you, both. I was paying for it. You didn't care. I did. I did care. Of course, I cared. I wanted it to be inexpensive, but it's almost impossible to send either of you anything. For less than like $7. But this one came out to be a pretty good price, I thought. And it, yeah, like you said, it got there early. Yeah. And look, which has never happened in the history of anything delivered in Australia ever. And thank you, Jason, because that's showing your dedication to our team and our performance at a business level. So I appreciate that. Yep. Strategic and tactical. Fiscally responsible when it comes to company funds. So we've had that new iPad that's been in service for one week. It's purchase price roundabout. I I had to do some manipulation of USD to AUD. I don't know if I want to quote the price, but let's just say it was expensive. Jason Okay. And then also coming on to our ass reg. An Apple Watch Ultra. Wow. Again, acquisition date the 30th of May. Now, somewhat disappointing in that the ultracellular fails to activate in Australia. Little, little Sub people may want to be aware of if they're buying an international item. You gotta read the fine print. You read the fine print There was no disclosure, Jason burk. No disclosure at all. You need to check that document. You signed it. You signed the invoice. It's out of my hands. So. You did get it. I did send him an invoice. I don think anybody realizes that as well. I sent him an actual proper invoice itemized. It was proper. It was proper for an American. He's going to critique. It was not proper for an American He going to critique. He going critique the inv Martin, guess which way the date was presented to me? Oh, fuck. Don't tell me the month was first. It's ridiculous. This is international business. So use the ISO standard. My accounting software wouldn't accept it. Call the ISO. What do you want me to do? The bomb show we going to hear is that none of these prices or the expenditure actually matters because upon putting stuff into his spreadsheet, Andrew did an inter allocation of the cost center. to Lis. So it costs him nothing. He 's moved it around. Yeah. It's all just one department to the other. Yeah. Net z. Okay. So what people really come for, they want to know the breakdown of these Apple devices over time. They want to know Yeah, so the Apple, the iPad Pro M4 was to replace the iPad Pro M1. Okay, so I've got news for you. I haven't yet retired the other iPad. I've just. So I can't give you a finalized status. It's still in use. Gasp Still in use. And you know why it's in use? Excitingly, though, you're living the Mike Hurley lifestyle now. Don't you know why? Bloody Apple pencils. If I want to continue to edit hemis views, I still have to do it on my M1 iPad because I don't have a compatible pencil for the M4. To be or not to be. Jason charged me so much for these assets that I can't afford a pencil. Charged him so much? You got the deal on the wait time. So, I can tell you that my old iPad Pro is currently running at $8. 3 per week, ongoing. Sorry. Plus Martin, I'll have you know, he got a he got no less than 1. 5% discount friends and family. Wow. Okay, so what I can to the Apple Watch, the Apple Watch Ultra, quite the upgrade. Quite the upgrade. Now I had previously sworn I've had watches, but when somebody offers you an ultra at a discount with 1. 5% family and friends, you've got to take that deal. So don't blame me. God take it. So the old Apple Watch Series 6 I was running Acquisition date, second of october twenty twenty. Wow. Disposal date thirtieth of may twenty twenty five. That's two hundred and forty three weeks of service It cost me six hundred and forty nine dollars at purchase. Res value zero. That is a cost per week of two dollars and sixty seven cents. Riveting. Could you not trade that in for an Apple pencil? I think not. No? I think the pencil is worth more. Yeah. So there we are. There we have it. So my of all assets at the moment, my average cost per week is fifty six dollars and twenty five cents. Really blown out of the water by the current iPad and Apple Watch Ultra, just distorting those numbers like crazy. So, what's the business outlook? What have we learnt from this? Yeah. What we have learnt is that Andrew's effective budgeting With actual budget, setting aside a quantum of money every month for the past couple of years to replace an Apple Watch, to replace an iPad Building up that stockpile of cash allowed him to jump on this deal and not set himself backwards financially. It was about preparation in advance, budgeting, planning, so that when the deal presented itself he could jump, strike, take full advantage and take Jason burk's offer. So what I'm saying is plan ahead. Prior preparation prevents poor performance, people. I have a follow-up question. Do you enjoy referring to yourself in the third person? And please answer that in the same style. Andrew understands that it's not always appropriate, but sometimes it's a necessary evil. I don't think I've ever done that in my entire life. Jason hasn't, no. No. Mm-mm. Well, that is that it? Is that the show? I think I don know how we can even look, I've given the piece. I 'll give the people what they want. We all know everybody loves app spreadsheet update corner. We'll get back next quarterly update, okay? Book it in your diaries. Yes, I'll I'll put that in my file Yes, absolutely. Do I sound different to you both? No. Martin's going to notice when he edits, for sure. I'll let you know if you sound different. Yes. I imagine Zoom is probably just making me sound the same. You sound amazing. You sound sult. Yeah, I don't know if that's going to be the case when we edit, though, because this is going be raw, raw wave going in there. We don't know You see, if we didn't have Zoom windows on at the moment and I heard your voice, I'd be like, ooh, that is one sexy, attractive man. I can just picture him right now. Unfortunately, we have with the singlet. Yeah. Here, wait, what if I talk now? Hey, And. Oh, wow. Wow, that's just amazing. Listeners can't see this, but Jason is now an avatar of what, an angry mole with a pickaxe. Is that what that is? That's Mr. Rossetti from Animal Crossing. Look at the arm muscles on Mr. Rossetti. Just go back to that for a sec. All right. Martin, you may need to take a screen capture. Look at that. Those muscles. Do I have to? Is that just look at the taking a screenshot? Do I have to? Okay, check the pipes on Mr. Rossetti. Okay. Okay, big smile, Andrew. There you go. Perfect. Lovely. All right. Keep going. This is stuff that's watching Look at the pipes on Jason burk. Come on. You leave my pipes out of this. Give us a big flex. Come on, bro. No. Nope. We're going back to Mr. Rossetti now. That's it. That's all you get for the rest of the show Do I have to force another topic switch now? This is we're talking about a microphone. We talking about microphone, not muscles. Tell us about your microphone, just quickly. Give us a rund. Okay, this is Martin editing from the lounge, and I will let Jason have his normal voice back. You be the judge with the microphone. Thanks, listeners. I'm just curious if anyone notices if this is 'Cause we did a poll already for sound quality. I was first, if you both remember that. I 'm curious what people think about this one. I have picked up a microphone, didn't need one, got a ridiculous deal on it. Probably just going to resell it, but I thought I had it, so why don't I try it? It's a weird blueberry microphone, and it's uh, it's actually from blue, but I from what I can tell, it's from before they did like Before they got into doing like the Yeti and the snowball and all that, this was a like handmade what thing in the U or something. It's it's very fancy looking and and Old time. So I'm curious what everybody thinks. This is a condenser instead of a dynamic. So we'll see what it sounds like. And I will probably not have it for much longer, so it probably doesn't matter. But it's interesting. And then Andrew and I were talking about those weird ribbon ones earlier, which. Now, I kind of want to just get one of those and see what it sounds like. They're very expensive. It's crazy how much a microphone matches your voice. Like, if you put the same microphone between the three of us, it doesn't it doesn't really like it has to match with your voice. It's I mean, it int that makes sense, but I never really realized that until I started playing around with different ones. I think you've noticed that too, Andrew, with yours because you've kind of switched messages around. And I'm back to the most basic, because I just wanted USB lifestyle. So I've gone back to my very first microphone I ever had. The Rode Podcast. Which I think this one matches your voice the best. Which is ironic. Because I had the Shure SM7, which looked so good. I had the Rod Pro, but they're both XLR. And I was like, I just want a USB, man. So back to this. Fascinating how things you know go around like that because I seem to recall being mocked heavily for using a USB microphone. Anyway, I'm glad it's working for you. Not on this show, surely. No, definitely not. It's probably on one of your other podcasts, I would guess. Yes, with those tech ad nerds I speak to elsewhere. Yep, I would think it was that. Oh, and Jason, just for your show notes, I shouldn't leave out the fact I have used an Audio Technic AT. What is it? 2 XK Red 2. Oh, that sounds right. That the audio technical one I used. I've used that in studio. I used that in stud bed a couple of times, I think. Oh, right. Studio bed. Oh, when you tried to be solst. I was so confused. I was so confused. Honestly, listeners, you don't appreciate just how horizontal Andrew was, but just, you know, hol holding up his head with his, you know, little flexy bicep. Remember that time in our life? Surrounded by satin sheets draped in velvet. Man. Yes. Jason, what was the silver lining of your eye cloud exploding? Oh, all my files are organized now. The thing I had been putting off for the last lifetime? Because everything went away, I had the chance to build the file structure from the ground up, and now I know where all my stuff is. It's refreshing to actually be able to know where things are. In your files. So it sucked. It was annoying. But the silver lining of the i explosion. Was that I now know where my files are, and they're all neatly organized. They all have all the little folders have little fun pictures, so I know where stuff is. So, yeah, silver lining. So top tech tip, just destroy everything and then you can fix it. Just throw it all away, hope that you'll get it back someday, randomly get it back from a backup and then rebuild it from the ground up. Yeah, it's good to it's good when you have to do things under duress of missing files, but it worked out good. Jason, that little um you mentioned you have fun little pictures on Yeah. Now is that from that app that I linked to the by the other Rob, the um folder icon generator? There's another rob. I don't believe so. There's another rob out there. And another there's two? There's two two tub? Yes, and it's a bit of a it's a bit of a our Rob Rob is aware of it. Our Rob. Okay. He's reached out. He's reached out to this Rob. They're having Cease and des. They've exchanged notes. I think they've come to a mutual understanding about the use of Rob. Okay. But yeah, so on GitHub, there's a Rob. Rob, just Rob username, has folder icon gener. Rob Rob. Oh, interest. No, I did not use that. I used um What is it called? Looking in my stuff. Image to icon. Ah. Image number two icon. Because you can kind of move it around and make it bigger or smaller. Gives you a little more control because I've found this is probably a me thing, but if you put it on the center of the folder, because of the bottom of the icon of the folders, it has that little The little like lines, crease, yeah, the creases, so it can you know you can get the all the financials in there, yeah. Um, it's that problem of It's technically centered pixel for pixel, but to the human eye, it does not look centered. So there's a term for that where you have to like shove it left or right to make it feel centered, even though it's not like pixel-wise. But that one allows you to kind of move stuff around, which is nice. Okay, okay. 'Cause yeah, I tried just this morning I tried uh I downloaded that thing I'd linked to a couple of weeks ago. I had to then download Xcode because I needed to build from source. Perfect. So, really, anyone could just jump off Totally, yeah, yeah. The actual, yeah, there's a couple of couple of bytes to download this file. Then I need a three gigab Xcode install. Yeah. You gotta have the simulator, obviously. But then I was using it and it seemed to be working, but I was just running in the simulator mode or like the build test mode. In Xcode, not actually as an application. And it just kept like spitting out little warning or log or error messages. And I was like saying This isn't found. I'm like, is that just it just logging, or is that a real problem? So I didn't actually create the application. I'm not that au fait with building a deployment of apps. So I'll probably wait until there's a DMG just ready for me to go. If there ever is. Yeah, the image icon one is just a download and go. But I think I'm gonna this is where I'm just gonna use the power of our audience. I'm gonna say. Rob Toob, who is aware of this software by Rob. If Rob To can just jazz it up for me Create a can version, send it through to me so I could just use it and it works and it doesn't have any errors and I can just use it. That'd be cool. Cool. Okay. So yeah, if if if y so you're now saying if someone from the someone listening to this could please fire up Xcode. Create and build for you a deployable version that works on your system. And ideally, they should go probably notarize it as well, so you don't have to do this. The right click to yeah, there's a couple of things I didn't like about the software. So if they could just fork it and improve those bits. Oh, fork it. Yeah. That'd be cool. So just pull request. Yeah. You know, then merge it back into the mainstream, merge it to main, send it to me, yep, build and run. That's it. Job done. Martin, you look entirely bored. I am. Two two tub?