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I am pregnanty.
Welcome to Hello Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and more manageable, hopefully. I'm Grace Riefrey, a writer, actor, podcaster, and I am also pregnant for the very first time.
And I'm Yana Pittman. I am a former Olympian mother of six and obstetric and GANI registrar, which basically means I deliver babies for a living and.
With our experience combined, each episode will be holding your hand week by week through the mysterious, perplexing, and sometimes scary miracle that is pregnancy, all the way from a poppy seed to a pumpkin. Week four. So we're starting this podcast series at week four because that's usually when you've found out that you are pregnant. There's not a lot that happens between week one and three, and they will backdate it from your last period. So, Yana, how big is the baby at this point?
Well, your baby's about the size of a poppy seed at this point, or just like a speck of dust or glitter, Yeah, a little cheer seat or something very small. It's basically a small clump of cells that's just embedded into the lining of your uter's about two point five millimeters, so it's tiny. What what's happening to me?
So tell me what's going on in our bodies this week?
Well, implantation has just occurred, so your sperm has met your sperm, your partner sperm hopefully has met the egg, and then it's made its way down the floapin and you've embedded into the uterine wall. So it's just now that you'll be starting to get a positive pregnancy test because you're making that beta hCG hormone that's the hallmark of pregnancy. The placenter itself is actually starting to grow. Your baby comes from different cells from the placenter, so
they grow at the same time, but independently. And right now your baby's actually only the size we actually call it, well, it's not even quite an embryo yet, but it's two layers at this point, and it'll slowly start differentiating into all the organs and the heart and the lungs and things over the next few weeks.
When does that placenta actually start to take over. Because at the moment, our body is just feeding everything, giving it all of its life. When does that percent to actually take over.
Well, it's funnily enough, it's actually not for several weeks, around between nine and ten weeks. That at this point the baby has what's called a yolk sack that's actually feeding it. So when you go for an early ultrasound, but guys, way too early, do not make an ultrasound booking yet, because that is one of the biggest problems. Women go now and they can't see anything and then they freak out that they're already having a miscaracter. That's
just simply too early. But there is a yolk sack which will be one of the first signs on ultrasound that there's a baby inside your belly, and that is what feeds the baby for the first couple of weeks of pregnancy.
What I found interesting about this stage is that everything, all signs kind of led to it being my period. Yes, I was very bloated and I had cramps, and so I assumed that it was my period until it kind of got to like maybe two more days that I normally maybe my period would have come, and it didn't, so I took a test. But why do all signs lead to it being your period?
Unfortunately, they're pretty similar to the hormones of pregnancy. Obviously, eugen and progester in our main two big wammies changed quite considerably. Breast tenderness. I don't know if you've got that at all, but that was my first sign. I remember walking outside in the cold and my nipples killing me and thinking what is going on? So all of those signs that can often, as you say, indicate pregnancy are unfortunately fluctuating hormones, which happen the same when your period is due.
So is that why they're backdate when you are technically your pregnancy starts, because it's all sort of part of the same journey, you know how Like when you find out you're pregnant already four weeks, you're already four weeks.
By yeah, so we go gestational age or pregnancy age. So the age of the fetus is only like two weeks by the time you actually find out you're pregnant, But the pregnancy age, the whole lot of pregnancy starts from the first day of your last period. So theoretically, every month we're two weeks pregnant until our period comes and then we're not.
It's I just find this fascinating about how much I didn't know about my body until I got to this stage and exciting, yeah, or like embarrassing.
And for some daunting because obviously not all of us want to be pregnant, and some of us get a little scared and find out that we are so, and that's when it is tricky to sort of think, well, do I want to continue with the pregnancy? Is this something I planned? What is it going to do to my life? And I can tell you as a.
Mother of six, it does a lot.
So it's a hard conversation to have with yourself when you first get those positive lines. And most of us, like yourself, for I don't know whether you were you excited.
Or no, not at all, Like even though it was like wanted and I was aware of what unprotected sex could do. Yes, there was no contraception, I think for anyone listening. I had had my account tested and it was on the lower side in the high nines, which I'm thirty five, so it was a maybe start thinking about it. So I know a lot of people who have struggled for years, so we did start and then it just happened very quickly, so I wasn't prepared.
But I do think it's a really good point to discuss, because you know, some people do have the desire and really, you know, really want to get pregnant and then all
of a sudden it's happened. And I know a lot of women, certainly some of my patients have discussed with me then in those first few weeks with all the hormonal changes, and started to feel pretty crappy that they think, well, this is not really I signed up for and do I even want to continue even though it was a planned pregnancy, And I think we need to honor that that's a normal part of this process. A huge life
change is on the up. So please don't feel if you're listening to this, if that was you, that it doesn't mean later you won't bond with your baby or love the pregnancy, and you know, and it's also okay if you actually do change your mind. Like I think, that's a conversation that we're very lucky in Australia we can have and we need to highlight that all women feel very differently through this period of gestation. What's happening to me?
Well, that leads us into what is actually happening and what might be feel like. What are some common symptoms that could happen around this time.
Well, I think you highlighted them pretty well, thanks unfortunately to you experiencing them all. Breast tenderness, floated, feeling around your tummy, twingy pains, even some spotting. So sometimes we get to what's called an implantation bleed, and that's actually as that little weak more than parasites. Little parasite is
basically nesting into your individual lining of your uterus. So eventually you know you'll make your little spiral arteries is part of your makeup, anatomically will join the supply so that you'll start eventually feeding your baby. But at this point they're pretty robust. Many people get pregnant very easily, particularly not wanting to earlier on in life.
It's funny I call it a parasite, but for different reasons, which we'll get to is this normal?
Is it normal?
A couple of things about is it normal? At this time? There's the symptoms that are the ones we spoke about, the implantation pain or potentially bleeding. What you do think it is your period. But one of the first things I noticed was an aversion to alcohol. Okay, see I hadn't taken a test yet, and now looking back, it feels like that was a potential signing. Is that quite early for avergins to come in?
No, Look, I mean I think you guys were trying so psychologically each month you are preparing it as possible. So there is that psychological factor that we avert foods we know will consider to be something we should avoid. In pregnancy, you're starting that whole monal change already, so your body's doing remarkable things. And for some women I've even had that, they've said they are starting to feelnauseous
already at that four to five week markets. Not even though the BEATA hat CG hormones are not really high, which is obviously what triggers a lot of the nausea, it's not impossible. So if you're already feeling yucky, the last thing you want to go is, you know's neck a bottle of wine. So I mean, hopefully it's a
good thing. You know, this is something that we're trying to continue to have the discussion around lots of people, by the way, don't know they're pregnant yet though, and are drinking and doing fun things in life, because you know, we need to live. I think it's so it's also important there to highlight that if you don't know you're pregnant yet, that we don't beat yourself up for the
things that did happen prior to that. Yes, I think that's more common than not, you know, because I think there are a large number of pregnancies that are unplanned and people don't find out sometimes, so there are nine or ten weeks pregnant, so they've made lots of decisions during that time that weren't you know, pregnancy related. You know. Ideally, I think let's be medical here for a seconds. I put my little doctors had on you have had prenatal
discussions with your with your GP. Ideally have had some serology, which is the blood tests looking at you know, in antenatal markers, infection markers, even things like your fole eight level. Your blood group's really important in pregnancy to know whether your hate negative which do you have a negative or a positive blood group?
Is that where they test whether my blood is attacking the baby. Yes, okay, And it's.
Kind of a little important because it's not at this four weeks pregnant. It doesn't matter because we wouldn't do anything. So if you came in, it matters, if you come in bleeding, it matters if you've had a car accident or something like that, because it's basically where your baby makes a different blood group to you, and your own body will make antibodies against your baby's blood group. Now it doesn't matter in this pregnancy at all. It's actually
about subsequent pregnancy. So you don't want your body to make those antibodies against the positive blood group because you're negative. So what that means, though, is if you find out you are what we call rh negative, if you have an inciting event like a miscarriage or an accident where there could be some fetal cells that crossover, we need to give you an anti d So it's basically a medication that stops that from happening, and we consider that
after sort of twelve weeks. So you just basically talk to your doctor about it and make a plan. But it's important to know it so you can at least raise the question, Hey, I'm RGE negative, do I need to do anything different from an RH positive mum, which.
Leads me into the important things that we should be doing at this stage. You mentioned four A. A lot of people say folic acid and you should be on it if you're trying to conceive. Ideally, what does that? What are you actually trying to do? And is it bad if you haven't been taking.
Again, A lot of us don't know we're pregnant, but ideally you start taking you know, a women's multi item about three months before pregnancy starts, or as soon as you find out you are pregnant, because so follo is actually to do with neural tube defects. So it's the way your baby's brain and spinal cord form prevents things like spiner befitter from occurring. So you know, many many years ago, so our mums and grandma's had much higher rates of that before they found out that follit can
make a difference. So for most of it, you know, between four hundred and eight hundred milligrams is enough, but you need to triple check if you're at higher risk. So people with a high BMI, people who have are on antiepolectic medication, people have had previous miscarriages or spiner befitter may need a higher dose. So I think it's a conversation to have. But the best thing you can do is just get started as soon as you find out, so you'll plan.
It's never too late, never too absolutely no correct.
Never too late.
And what are some like nice to do things, things to think about, maybe not necessarily about our body, but things to start having a think about in the future.
Yeah, great, Ay, Look it's very early, but I would actually say start thinking about what model of care you want to do, because you have obstetric which is what I'm training to be, so coming with the doctor's program. You have what I love and I went with my last pregnancy, which was actually my second last pregnancy MGP. So whether you want to be MIDWI free group practice, low risk pregnancies lovely holistic care, and I know my midwives out there will love me for saying this day.
I'm much better at counseling around birth and making it normal, you know, making normalizing what birth and pregnancy is. But you do an unfortunately to be relatively low risk in that program, and they fill up so fast, so they're the ones that you get a positive pregnancy test and you're like, contact your local hospital and say I'd love to go on the MIDWI free group practice program and
getting early. So that's why it's important now, even this early in gestation, to have a think about what you want to do.
Okay, we're going to need a lot of help along this pregnancy. It's only week four, so what can we put in our talkkit for this week? Did you pick an app?
Because I think having an app, particularly for a first time mums, can be really helpful to sort of track babies development in some of the things you might be experiencing.
Have you, Oh, yes, I have the flow out. Yes I like it, but I was using it to track my period, so I sort of had it already and then once you log that you're pregnant, it switches into this whole new mode.
Yeah.
What I like about this is it gives you, like the stats, Yes, what week you are, here's the size of your baby, Here's what's happening to them, and then here's what's happening to your body. So you're kind of covering these sort of major things which I like.
Yeah, And I mean you can also use it in pregnancy too, and as you're trying to get pregnant. I think what I liked about Flow Pregnancy Plus is another really good one.
I have both.
I have to say I liked both and I checked between them to see if there was differences. And Baby Centers is another good one as well.
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