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As a lot of you probably already know. While I've been working on the Christina Pipkin case, I've also been exploring other unsolved deaths in Arkansas. Right now, I'm looking at an article from the Commercial Appeal newspaper came out on Thursday, June third, nineteen ninety three. The title of the article is Authorities wonder if six kids deaths in East Arkansas are related. Those children in the article referred to were Christina Pipkin, who, as we know, went missing
in May of nineteen ninety one. And also Steve Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers, the three eight year old boys who were murdered in West Memphis in nineteen ninety three. It also includes sixteen year old Guardinia Cross and thirteen year old Geneva Smith. Guardina and Geneva's bodies were found near Wynn, Arkansas, just a few miles from Hickory Ridge. To be honest, I haven't seen any obvious connections between
these children in East Arkansas. As we said before, these children were different ages, some were different races, and they had very different life circumstances. The boys in West Memphis and Guardinia Cross had been brutalized, while in Christina's case there didn't it appear to be any outward signs of violence. So just on the surface, it does not seem like this was the work of a single serial killer.
But there are a lot of weird coincidences in these cases.
In fact, in three of the four cases, suspects were arrested but ultimately released. All of these children were found in or near bodies of water, and all of them are unsolved.
I'm Catherine Townsend.
Over the past five years of making my true crime podcast, Helen Gone. I've learned that there is no such thing as a small town where murder never happens. I've received hundreds of messages from people all around the country asking for help with an unsolved murder that's affected them, their families, and their communities.
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You'd like me and my team to look into, you can reach out to us at our Hell and Gone Murder line at six seven eight seven four four six' one four. Five that's six seven eight seven four four six one four or. Five this Is Helen Gone Murder. Line i'm making my way through all these freedom of information Requests i've done over the past few. Weeks, obviously we Have Christina pipkins case, file though there do appear to be some doctor Kim it's, missing including crime scene.
Photos The Arkansas State police told me they believe The Genevas smith case is still, open so they were not able to provide me with any information from that case. File and they weren't able to Find Guardina cross's case at. All they said they had no record of it at The Arkansas State. Police, now this could just mean that this case file is with the. COUNTY i filed a request In Cross county And.
I'll let you all know what.
Happens but even though the circumstances of all these children's deaths were so, DIFFERENT i want to take a look at some of the seemingly odd similarities.
In Christina pipkins.
Case remembered there was a, Suspect Robbie. Tubbs he was arrested years later in nineteen ninety, nine and then he was later released due to some pretty catastrophic mistakes with the hair fiber evidence that was. Found in nineteen ninety. Two Geneva's smith was thirteen years. Old she left home to get on the school, bus and she never came. BACK a few days, later her body was found floating in The Saint Francis. River her remains were badly, decomposed
so much that it was hard to identify. HER i was struck by the fact that there is very little About Geneva smith's murder out. There the theories about who killed her if you look on online, forums ranged from a serial killer to THE kkk to a member of her extended. Family, basically it's a mixed bag and no one seems to have any real. Answers there was an arrest In geneva's, case but like In Christina pipkins, case the arrest came years.
Later In november of nineteen ninety.
Nine the same year when police were building a case Against Robbie tubbs For Christina pipkins, murder two men Named Johnny key And Freddie jones were arrested and charged With Geneva smith's. Murder police did not say much at the, time but apparently the case depended on the cooperation of a key. WITNESS i found this from a local newspaper back in the. Day it, read Quote Freddy, jones twenty six Of earl And Johnny, key thirty six Of parkin
appeared Before Judge RICHARD. L proctor On monday and were bound over To Cross County Circuit court to stand trial on one count of capital. Murder the article goes on to Say Sheriff Ronnie baldwin Said rinne page twenty two of when was also arranged on a charge of hindering apprehension of a suspect in connection with The smith.
Case she was.
Being held in The Cross county Jail monday on unrelated charges when she was arrested in connection with the.
Murder end.
Quote so the newspaper brings up two male suspects and one female who they believe were involved In Geneva smith's. Murder the newspaper also talked to the, sheriff and the article mentioned that the sheriff said that he had worked with The Arkansas State police Investigator dale One. Arnold remember that's the same investigator who also worked On Christina pipkin's.
Case the sheriff said that he And.
Dale arnold felt they finally had enough information to make some arrest and the article said that all three of these, Suspects Johnny, Key Freddie, jones And Irene, page had all been interviewed by police back in nineteen ninety two When Geneva smith originally went. Missing police seemed fairly confident that they had a, case but then something. Happened apparently their key witness had a change of. Heart the, Sheriff Ronnie, baldwin later confirmed. This he told the newspaper the case
had fallen apart when that witness backed. Out So i'm wondering about the woman who was. Arrested if she was the witness and was twenty two years old in nineteen ninety, nine that would mean that she would have been around sixteen years, old just three years older.
Than geneva back When geneva was.
Killed so Now i'm wondering who was this, woman what was her connection To Geneva? Smith and it's been years since these suspects were questioned and later. Released is law enforcement planning on building that case any? Further have they developed any new, suspects do they have any new leads at? All and if, not would they consider turning over this case file and making it public like they have With Christina pipkins's. CASE i am not sure what the decision
will be In Geneva smith's. CASE i do Know arkansas has made new rules to classify cases as officially cold when they've been unsolved for two years or.
More maybe they will release part of the case.
FILE i do hope they'll consider it because In christina's case it has.
Helped i've only been.
Working on this case for a few, weeks and even though it has been almost thirty years Since Christina pipkin went missing and her body was, Found we've been able to find a lot of people who've never been interviewed by the. Police we've also gotten a lot of names out of the case file and we were able to find a lot of.
Them as a result of, that we are filling in the.
BLANKS i would love to be able to do the same thing For Geneva smith's.
Case so if.
Someone out there knows someone who Knew Geneva, smith anyone in her, family her, friends or anyone who saw, ANYTHING i would love to hear from these. PEOPLE i did some very preliminary online sleuthing to try and find the people who were charged With geneva's murder and what happened to. THEM i Found Freddie. Jones it wasn't too hard because he's now in. Prison Freddie jones has a fairly long criminal,
record according to court. Records in twenty, seventeen he was sentenced to forty years for aggravated robbery of A valero gas station In. Fayetful he also got an additional five years for carrying a firearm because he was a. Felon according to court, documents this length of, sentence which does seem very, long was due to his status as an habitual.
Offender so let's go back to the newspaper article for a. Minute the ONE i talked about at the top of the, episode the one that talked about potential connections in these child death. Cases the Reporter Rob johnson talked about sixteen year Old Guardina, cross who was murdered in nineteen ninety. Two guardina was sixteen years old and in tenth grade At Wynn High school On october fourteenth in nineteen ninety, two she disappeared that same day On More, road right
outside of when a guy was collecting. Cans when he found her body on the side of the, Road guardina was naked except for a Bra her skull had been pierced and punctured with a small. Object police thought it could be some type of, tool maybe something like a. Screwdriver forensic testing later revealed that at the time of her, Death guardina was around five months pregnant.
And then there were.
Crickets there was nothing more THAT i could find really ever reported about this, case BUT i think the Reporter Rob johnson got some crucial. Information he went to Interview guardinia's great, Grandmother Hattie. Cross he found out That guardina already had a two year old. Daughter that means That guardania's daughter must have been born around the Time guardania was around fourteen years. Old he was also the person who reported that she was five months pregnant at the time for.
Death, NOW i don't want to rush to.
Conclusions the killer could have been a, stranger this could have been a random. Attack but we also know that, sadly pregnancy can be one of the most dangerous times of a woman's.
Life one of.
The leading cause of death of pregnant women In america is. Homicide SO i want to know where that baby's father, is if that person was ever, questioned maybe there was someone who was not happy about her, pregnancy and these are all things that we have to. Consider coming back to The Christina pipkin, Case i've been going through the case file and trying to reach out to people the police, interviewed and WHEN i, did as you probably already, know
there were a lot of. Discrepancies not only THAT i saw something in this Case i've never had happened before in Anything i've ever. Investigated one of the biggest issues we've had in trying to review this case file is the fact that basically none of the interviews were. Transcribed everything is just these, brief typed, reports so there are a lot of mistakes in. Those i've seen errors made in police reports, before But i've seen mistakes In christina's
case unlike Anything i've ever. Seen in our last, EPISODE i talked To Donna. King now in the case, file there is a police report where an investigator said he spoke To Donna. King she told them that on the Night Christina pipkin went, missing she Saw Charles cotton's, Wife Rebecca, cotton walking on the side of the, road and That Charles cotton was approaching her on a three. Wheeler this was a very detailed description of what. Happened, apparently according to.
Police donna said she Observed Rebecca cotton, crying looking annoyed At charles and not getting on the three. Wheeler Then Charles cotton apparently left and came back in a. Vehicle this was a few minutes, later and he Picked Rebecca cotton up and they left together in the. Car the only problem Is Donna king said that this was absolutely not what she said to the. Police she is insistent that she never Saw Rebecca cotton on the Night Christina
pipkin went. Missing Donna king said that part of the story was. Correct she was out of town that. Day she and her husband had gone To, memphis but she said as soon as she got back in, town she met up with.
A friend of.
Hers the friend Of donna's who she met up with is actually someone else we've spoken. To there were two cashiers at The bearcat who we've talked to so. Far the woman all Call cashier number one served the mysterious stranger who came in at around five point forty. Five she's the one who worked on the composite drawing with. Police there was another, cashier we'll call Her cashier number
two now cashier. Too was working in the back section of the store where the video rentals happened for most of the, night but between seven and nine pm she worked the main. Register After donna came back to, town she met up With cashier number. Two, together they rode around and looked For Christina, pipkin and they both confirmed each other's. Stories they said they never Saw Rebecca cotton that.
Night WHEN i Asked donna what she thinks, happened she believes that maybe the police officers got her story mixed up with someone. Else's this sounds, crazy but it's actually not that hard to, believe because even more to disturbing than the wrong, Information donna, said the police included in that report was what she said they left. Out donna said that the next day After christina went, missing she saw a stranger in a brown car near the area
Where christina's body was. Found she is adamant she said she described that person and that vehicle to the, Police but there's no record of that brown car anywhere in the case. File so the question is where did the police get the information about the person who supposedly Saw Rebecca cotton on the side of the road that, Night and if that person Wasn't Donna, king who was. It in the last, episode we talked about a couple of.
The names who keep coming up in this, case AND i want to give you all an.
Update we have gotten more information about a friend Of Robbie, tuff the man Named, jackie the person WHO i referred to As jackie Question mark in last week's.
Episode because we didn't know his last, name we were able to get his last.
Name i've been exchanging messages with a couple of different young women who told me That jackie, was in their, words creepy and that he made her and several other young women very. UNCOMFORTABLE i wanted to Track jackie. DOWN i wanted to ask him questions About Robbie tubbs.
And about what went on around the time When christina went.
MISSING i wanted to know Word jackie And robbie in or Near Hickory ridge that, day BUT i found out That jackie passed away in two thousand and. Eight, sadly this is another dead. End the second cashier at The bearcat who we talked to in the last, episode told us about the fear and panic that broke out in the town After christina went.
Missing she described what the atmosphere was like the next.
Day i'm at work at twelve At bearcat and it was just, horrific, uh seeing it was it was horrific and how awesome at the sun time that so many people we're, There we're on the, street we're in the parking, lot we're you, know gathered together to try to you, know set up. Teams you, know the community really came.
Together and she noticed the same thing THAT i.
Noticed she noticed That Charles cotton seemed to have been very involved in the search For Christina. Pipkins she also found it out she said he wasn't someone who appeared to know the family, well And james had said he just Met Charles cotton through his neighbors she.
MAY i, MEAN i, thought is he really trying to make an? Incursion and it was just like glaved in the, family it seem.
Like AND.
I was just, like you, know of course we were all wanting to search and look, absolutely.
BUT i mean THEN i you, know came. Down there was a lot of, pubblists AND i just put it as you, know he was just want attention AND i didn't.
Really you, know thinkko much more about.
It with help from some sources in, TOWN i have mapped out the rest Of christina's neighborhood and there are other people WHO i would like to. LOCATE i have verified through multiple sources who were living in the neighborhood at the, time That Charles cotton and his family, were contrary to what his Wife rebecca told the, police living in a house just a couple of doors down from The.
Pipkins there was also another young family. There they lived in a, Trailer they had several, children and according to the, neighbors they were only there for a few. Months apparently the family was from Around, bedeville the area near Where christina's body was. Found now people say this family was not around for a long time they weren't sure of
the exact. Dates BUT i would like to know who those people, were AND i would like to talk to them because if they left abruptly After christina went, missing that's something we need to check. Out we know from past cases that people who show up in town and leave shortly after a suspicious death need to be thoroughly.
Vetted AND i want.
To go back and ask something that may seem, Obvious but since part of this is investigating the investigation, itself we have to double check.
Everything we need to.
Know how can we be sure That Christina pipkin drowned and how can we be sure that it was definitely not an accidental. DROWNING i want to take a step back for a, minute because there's been a lot of discussion During christina's case about what we can learn from the limited facts we have without an autopsy.
Report so let's talk about.
Drowning according to report ON Nbc, news deaths by drowning are super. Challenging they're among the hardest for investigators to. Prove the way that medical examiners figure out that a death is by drowning is basically by the process of, elimination they have to rule out everything.
ELSE a lot of children drown in The United states every.
Year according to a twenty twenty three article In The New, yorker The centers For Disease control And prevention has listed drowning as the number one cause of death for young, children which they define is age one to, four And arkansas has one of the highest rates of childhood drowning in the, country according to a study done By Quote, wizard the third highest in the. Nation between twenty eighteen and twenty, twenty that were twenty five fatal drownings In.
Arkansas thirteen of those were children under the age of. Five so how do we know if a body found in water did drown and if that drowning was intentional or? Accidental in, water bodies tend to sink first and then rise to the surface in, warm shallow water like At Cawlake ditch as gases in the body accumulated from the decomposition. Process this would have taken around seventy two. Hours christina's
body was found three days after she went. Missing water investigations have come a long way in the past three. Decades now there are training seminars for investigators who are processing homicides that involve a body of. Water there are a few different types of scenarios that can occur. Here you have people who are killed on land and then dumped into the water as they are dead or, dying people who actually drowned in the body of, water and accidental.
Drownings they all have some distinctive. Characteristics we know That christina could have accidentally drowned because she couldn't. Swim that would have made. Sense but the first question homicide investigators are told to ask is if the victim's location makes, sense and In christina's, case it did. Not it made zero sense that she would suddenly be miles away from home right before dark when she had been hanging around
very close to her house all. Day but even though crime scene investigation techniques are, improving killers can still have a lot of evidence in pools of dirty. WATER i use a textbook for all of my. INVESTIGATIONS i carry it around everywhere with, me so at this point it's kind of falling. Apart but it's called practical Homicide. Investigations i've talked about it. Before it's by a FORMER nypd
homicide detective Named vernon. Debirth it's become the textbook that a lot of police departs and used to train their. Detectives in this, book he describes a lot of staged crime scenes involving, drowning and he has a lot of examples summer cases where the victim was drowned elsewhere like a, bathtub and then taken and dumped into the body of. Water, remember a lot of people thought this was what could
have happened To Christina. Pipkin but we know the evidence In christina's case indicates the mud and water found In christina's lungs did match the water in Cal Lake. Ditch i've also talked to a family member and this person is attempting to Access christina's autopsy.
REPORT i hope that we can get.
Access to that because there are a lot of THINGS i think we could potentially. Learn among the QUESTIONS i have are THESE i want to know if there was any white foam. Present it's called haemorrhagic edema. Fluid this foam forms as a result of mucus from the throat mixing with water and. Blood it's a major indication the person may have, drowned and we don't know from Doctor Fawmi malik the Medical examiner's. Report if that was, present we do. Know Doctor malick said there were no signs of.
Violence he said he didn't find signs of a, struggle no, bruising no obvious signs of, strangulation nothing to, show for, example that someone held her head under water.
Forcibly but maybe there are other clues in the, report.
Something that could tell us if she had less obvious signs like the broken blood, vessels that could be indicative of. Strangulation, ALSO i would love to know Did christina have anything in her? Hands this could tell us if she was grabbing at, something for, example when she was in the. Water if, not this could indicate she was unconscious when she went into the.
Water AND i know that it's been a long, time but don't.
Forget sometimes major breakthroughs can be made by a second, look even decades.
Later THE nbc report had an.
Example the news channel talked to a case From illinois where a woman had drowned in a bathtub and basically there was no sign of a struggle or forced. Entry at, first it was ruled an, accident but eventually investigators brought a new pathologist in and that person found bruises on the victim's, elbows bruises that forensic testing had. Missed, later police focused on this woman's. Husband they were able to find insurance policies that the husband had taken out and his.
Wife they eventually found a, motive but they wouldn't have even looked for that motive if they had not first gone back over the. Forensics this is What i'm trying to, do both with the autopsy report and with the case. File but, again because the police reports were so, Vague i've been really struggling with being able to verify concrete times in any part of this.
Report which brings me back to the very beginning of the.
Case one of the only things that we have a time for a definite time is that. Movie And i've been thinking about that movie That Jane pipkin was watching since this case. Started In james's, statement he said On Saturday may, fourth he said that he was taping the Movie The hunt For Red october and he was starting to watch it while it, taped and that during that movie he became concerned That christina had not come, home
and that's when he started looking for. Her let's take a step back let's track everyone who said they Saw Christina pipkin for sure that, day at least according to the police reports in the Case faul after the family came back from their, Errands Christina pipkin was at her home On Doty street by round four. Pm that's when The, fords the neighbors whose yard backed up to The pipkin, house Saw christina playing out in her. Backyard shortly after,
That christina left the house to sell. Jewelry she had her flyer showing the different types of jewelry people could buy with. Her that's around When Elsie, lyles The pipkins neighbor and the person who sometimes based he Sat, christina Saw christina and gave her a pickle as a. Snack christina ate the pickle and she Left elsie's, house Telling elsie she'd be back for. Dinner elsie Said christina never showed after Leaving. Elsie's during that, Afternoon christina was walking
around the area around the Bear cat in the. Bank, again this is a very small, area but a lot of people were coming through the main drag around. Then because if you want to get cigarettes or, snacks the
bear cat was pretty much the only game in. Town we know that around five forty five, pm the first cashier we spoke, to the one who was working the register for most of the, day said she saw the, stranger the one who came into the store and looked a little Like Richard, gear the guy she later identified in a composite.
Photo she said that he came in to buy a pack Of Warboro.
Reds he parked his, car a brown, sedan not, blue as the police wrote in their, report way up on the.
Sidewalk then he got in his car and.
Left the cashier said the stranger came and went just a few minutes After christina and some other kids were walking through milling around The bearcat grocery. Store christina was going to and from the area right around her. House at around five, Thirty Ricky dawson and his Friend James, bashers who were next door at The moor's, house Saw christina on the porch of her. House by around six,
Thirty christina was back at the Bear. Cat that's when her math, Teacher Miss, lamb told police that she Saw christina and briefly talked to her sometime before, dark which was around eight. Pm the other, cashier cashier number, two the cashier we talked, to who police never, interviewed said she Saw christina in the. Store she said she knew for sure this happened before. Dark she remembered the street
lights were not on. Yet Then christina. Left, Frida christina's, mom told police she went to The bearcat's store at around seven thirty. Pm she bought some, groceries hung around for a few, minutes.
And then went back. Home after she got home and started cooking.
Dinner this is When James pipkin said they started watching the Movie The hunt For Red. October they got worried That christina hadn't come, home And freda Sent christina's Brother adam out to look for. Her When adam came back and said he hadn't seen, Her frida left the house to look for. Her but here's where it gets, interesting Because james says in the police report, QUOTE i got THE vcr ready to Tape The hunt For Red. October
the movie came on AND i started taping. IT i started getting worried That christina had not come home, yet so we started looking for.
Her this was around eight. Pm end.
Quote this was one concrete time that we could sort of frame everything else, Around SO i got a little obsessed when figuring out what time this movie. Aired back in the, nineties before streaming SERVICES hbo And, cinemac movies aired on a national. Schedule it was broken into different time, zones but basically it was exactly the same air date around the, country so we should be able to verify.
That there's just one.
Problem WHEN i found the commercial for the movie on YouTube and an old Guide Red, OCTOBER i found out that The hunt For Red october aired in that region On friday, night Not, saturday the Day christina went. Missing so if that's, True james could not have been taping The hunt For Red october On saturday night that movie aired On friday.
Night he might have.
Misspoken he could have said he'd previously taped the movie and was watching it On.
Saturday maybe the police were, Wrong but in that police.
Statement he said a couple of times he was taping the, movies setting THE vcr to tape it that. Night he seemed to say he was watching the movie live as it. Aired, now maybe he's Remembering friday night instead Of saturday. Night getting mixed up. Again police did not Interview james for several. Days After christina went. Missing BUT i do wonder AND
i would love to clear up that. Discrepancy frida went into The bearcat store right before nine pm that, night and the second cashier who we heard from earlier said she vividly Remembers christina's mother walking into the store crying and saying she couldn't find her.
Daughter and then Missus pipton came. In she was crying and we, said, well we already pretty much set the registers down or they'll be glad to and, said, NO i just need to use the pay.
Phone the pay.
Phone was like when you walk in the, door though you would make a, right direct, right and it was on the. Wall there was a, window and then there was the pay, phone and then it started with the.
Drinks and she ran to the phone.
And she called the police and she didn't Really that's when we heard or say my little girl's. MISSING i was, like, oh Love, god you know we saw her, just you, know a couple of hours. Ago AND i don't know why no one ever questioned. Me, ever at the, TIME i kept thanking Mister arnold would come and talk to. They no one ever questioned.
ME i find it shocking that there was no police interview with this, cashier this person who was one of the last people to See christina. Alive there's also no interview with the other. Cashier the police report just said he had nothing of substance to offer the.
Investigation BUT i disagree with.
THAT i think he could have seen something extremely, important even if he didn't realize what he was seeing at the, Time and it's a shame we don't have a longer interview with. Him so where do we go from? Here there's still a lot of people who need to be checked out. Further after speaking To cashier number, one it seems very plausible That Robbie tubbs could have been In Hickory ridge that. AFTERNOON a family member confirmed to me
That robbie does Smoke marlborough. Reds we know that he drove a brown, car a sedan that matched the description of the one the cashier saw at the, time and most, crucially the cashier felt strongly that the photo Of robbie's she saw from back in the day looked like the composite drawing that she did with the. Police Robbie tubbs could have been the stranger who came into the Bear cat that, night but that's not enough for a DEFINITE.
Id and even if it, was even If Robbie tubbs was, there this is not proof that he did anything.
WRONG i want to be very clear about.
That he absolutely could have been in that store for totally innocent. Reasons we know that he had some ties to the. Area he had his Friend, jackie who he went shelling. With when he drove through, there he would often drop him In, waldenburg which is Near Hickory. Ridge at the, Time robbie and his Wife sandra lived Near, Pocahontas, arkansas and at the Time robbie had a girlfriend Named.
Janetta we've talked about that.
Before the route From pocahontas to Where robbie went shelling passed right Through Hickory. Ridge there's a root that would go right near his girlfriend's place and near the bear Cat Robbie tubb, smoked and there are not that many places to make a pit stop and buy. CIGARETTES i
also wondered about the. Evidence we've already talked a lot about everything that happened with the, hair the disastrous wrong, Testing so Now i'm, wondering is there anything that police can do with the hair evidence that was so badly. Mishandled we know forensic testing has improved a lot since nineteen ninety. Two but THEN i take another look at the case file AND i see a report Dated march,
fifteenth twenty twenty. Three in, fact it seems to be the only activity On Christina pipkin's case that's taken place in, years and it's not good. News according to the case. File In march of twenty twenty, three Investigator Robert scott of The Arkansas State police Contacted Dale, arnold the Original Arkansas State police investigator On christina's. Case Robert scott Asked Dale arnold about the hair. Sample Dale arnold said he had already given testimony about it when the mistake was.
Discovered it seemed from reading the report like it wasn't something That Dale arnold wanted to pursue. Further, Then Robert scott, wrote, Quote Cross County Sheriff's office Investigator boykins pulled the case at my request and researched the. Evidence Investigator boykins was unable to find the hair recovered from the vehicle of Mister tubbs in The Cross County Sheriff's office property. Room
Investigator arnold stated he didn't know where the hair. Was NOW i reviewed the case file on the custody Of Cross, county no new information was. Developed it is highly unlikely that the recovered hair could be used in a court forcus due to the previous submission in the trial of
Mister tubbs end. QUOTE i knew it was a long shot with this, hair BUT i can't help but feel devastated For christina's family because what that means is that after that mistake At Robbie tubbs's, trial the, evidence it seems was returned from The Arkansas State police crime lab to The Cross County sheriff's, office but it didn't stay.
There somehow it's. Missing and this is.
WHERE i really start to feel, outraged because it's not enough that they botch the.
Testing now they've lost the.
Hair they've lost the one piece of physical evidence that could be definitively.
Tested it's just.
Shocking Investigator scott goes on to say that he and another investigator did reach out To Robbie, tubbs though they misspelled his name As Ronnie. Tubbs he said they have a last known address For robbie at a motel In Sulfur, Springs.
TEXAS i don't know if.
They don't want to find him or if they can't find, Him but no further contact With Robbie tubbs was recorded in the case. FILE i Found Robby tubbs in about ten. MINUTES i saw on social media that he sometimes posts from his hotel.
Room AND i really don't.
Know if THE asp don't feel they have enough evidence they don't want to reach. Out maybe they're jurisdictional, Issues maybe they don't want to Call texas law enforcement with. Us but either, way that recent, report plus the fact they've released the case file publicly tells us the, police in my, opinion are not actively investigating this. Case After christina's, funeral her, Parents james And, frieda moved.
Away eventually they divorced.
AGAIN i take no joy in retraumatizing anyone and digging up family, trauma BUT i believe that there are answers in this case that could be found and they are not in this police case.
File we have to find these. People we need to talk to.
Them we have to keep going back to That Bear cat convenience store on the night Of may, fourth nineteen ninety, one and we have to zero in on the tiny little details Now i'm zeroing.
In on one.
Discrepancy christina's math teacher said when she spoke To christina That christina had her flyer for jewelry selling in her, hand but the Cashier CASHIER, ii who Saw christina in the doorway of the Bear cat a little while, later Said christina did not have anything in her, hands and she remembered that Because christina kind of shrugged and she saw both of her hands go up and they were. Empty so Could christina have left her flyer at home then come.
Back to the.
Store if, so why was she coming back to the store if she was done selling her?
Jewelry could she have.
Seen someone she knew, outside maybe someone who offered her a.
Ride maybe that.
Person had already talked To christina when the cashier saw her inside the.
Door their car was sitting outside right.
THEN i am not giving up on this. Case i'm gonna work my way through the hundreds of Messages i've received and keep reaching out and keep trying to get. Answers i'm going to document every single interview THAT i, have And i'm going to turn over any helpful INFORMATION i find to law enforcement and to the prosecutor's office And i'm going to keep pushing for access to that autopsy, report and also to get any information THAT i can
About Geneva smith And Guardina. Cross of, course we can never know exactly what will happen, next BUT i can, promise as, ALWAYS i will keep working on this case in the, background AND i will keep you. Posted most, Importantly i'm going to keep talking to people any ONE i, can because every TIME i, do with every new detail THAT i learned that was not in the case file or in any of the police, reports that potential window of time that someone had to kidnap and murder a
little girl gets smaller and. Smaller we have to keep. Digging I'm Catherine. Townsend this Is Helen Gone Murder. Line Helen Gone Murder line is a production Of school Of humans And iHeart. Podcasts it's written and narrated by, Me Catherine townsend and produced By Gabby.
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