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But in the meantime, we are going to break down some of these free agents signing some of these trades, what they mean for their teams, the underrated ones, the overrated ones, and yes, even though they're not free agents, that means Kyrie, Kevin Durant, and Russell Westbrook too getting packed for Summer League as we speak. Don't look at my face. I'm looking them ass Rock my man, drop that beat and Bob So I'm trying to look at raw I'm trying to look at my notes at the

same time. It's just not quite the same situation. Let's start today's show by saying, today's a good day for Kyrie Irving to be traded through the Lakers. Let's start today's show by saying today is a great day for Kevin Durant to be traded to the Phoenix Suns. Let's start off today by saying today is a great day to see Russell Westbrook anywhere else besides LA. Let's be honest, it's not working, and I want to see him suffer.

I want us to know. I don't. I don't, but I do want to know what he does if he goes somewhere else. And I don't think he's gonna spend one moment in a Net's uniform. I just don't see it. Also, the teardown is complete. It's happening. Let's get Donovan Mitchell to be the bad guy and request out now like it's happening. But before we get started, a couple of notes around the league. There's a couple of news items happening. Jody Allen, current owner of the Portland Trailblazers. What do

I say that hasn't already been said? Jody's Selton, damn team. We know you don't care about this team. She put this tweet out. Let me go look for a real quick rock because it is just outrageous. Jody Allen, for you to have the goal to say what you said makes no sense. This is what she said as chair of both the Portland Trailblazers and the Seattle Seahawks. My long term focus is building championship teams that our communities are proud of. Like my brother Paul, I trust and

expect our leaders and coaches to build winning teams. That's such a shady comment about Seattle and Portland and Free Vault. As we've stated before, and neither of the teams is for sale and that there are no sales discussions happening. A time will come that given changes, given Paul's plans to dedicate the vast that's a typo. A time will come when that changes, given Paul's plans to dedicate the

vast majority of his wealth the philanthropy. But the states of this size and complexity can take ten to twenty years to wind down. There is no preordained timeline by which the teams must be sold. Until then, My focus and that of our teams is on winning. That is such a lie. That's such a lie. Just sell the team to Phil Knight by all means, just get rid of this thing. We know you don't care, we know you don't know anything about sports. Jody, Paul Ellen. Let's

be honest. Paul Allen never invited one athlete to any of his parties. He was all musicians and actors and people in the entertainment field. He saw the athletes as like something else not to be mixed. Sell the team, Jody, I don't know what's going on. As a Portland Trailblazer fan. For her to try to tell me she's gonna hold my team hostage for twenty years is something I don't know if I can stand for. Like that just needs

to get fixed asap. Rocky, I don't know. Just like Brian Windhors would say, what was she saying that for? Why would she do that? I don't know. Uh. Moving on, I've been thinking more about the Rudy Gobert trade I have, and I think while that is a tremendous amount of picks that Minnesota had to give up, I'm starting to understand that we must trust in Tim Connolly. Tim Connolly is the one who identified Rudy Gobert, who ended up going to Utah and not Denver. Tim Connolly's first order

of business is to turn not her. I would say, put Karl Anthony Towns in a situation where he doesn't have to be what he isn't right, Carl Anthony Towns is a four masquerading in a five's body. He doesn't want to be the rim protector. He doesn't want to have to deal with anchoring a defense and getting in foul trouble then limiting his offensive weapon re weapon re.

He is kind of soft. So to point him in a position where he's supposed to be the tough guy and the guy who to protect your team bad And it shows me that Tim Connelly is all about providing Rudy with the pieces that he needs to be successful around. So I actually like the move and we'll talk more about what Minnesota did later, because I think they might be one of the most underrated teams in terms of the moves that they made this offseason. And I think that they might be a team as a dark horse

in the West. I know that's crazy to say they could be this year's Dallas. I'm saying it now. They could be the team that comes out of nowhere and makes it to the Western Conference finals. They're gonna be insanely difficult to deal with Minnesota. Now first rounders, They're like, what do we care? Honestly, we've got first rounders in the twenties now, it's not like these are lottery picks. There was a new article that came out on ESPN Plus.

I'll tell you what it said. If you don't have it, It's basically like, if you don't have picks one through fifteen, what you have is a bench guy. So are you willing to give up five bench guys for a defensive player two time Defensive Player of the Year. Yes, overwhelmingly yes. Minnesota is not a lottery team anymore. They're team that's going to the playoffs. They have a really good coach, they've got a front office and new ownership group that's trying to make them contend or at least make it

to the second round of the playoffs. Do you think the second round of the playoffs get you picks one through fifteen? Oh sir, it does not. So who cares? As they would say in the biz, fuck them picks. That's what Lesnied said, Fuck them picks. Let's go out and get Obi j. Let's go out and get Matthew Stafford, Let's go out and get von Miller, and let's go out and get something for those fingers. Let's go out

and get some for those fingers, folks. So That's really interesting to me because for every Bones Highland, for every Tyrese Maxi, there are five Zeke Naseis, there are five Malachi Finns. And the Golbert trade go Beart trade. Really, I call them Gilbert. The Gobert trade really for me, is all about Kat and that is something that we can talk about at a different time. Is what if

the Lakers were smart they would do for Anthony Davis. Shocker, little hot take that I just thought of right the second. If the Lakers cared about their team, they'd trade Lebron James. Yes, they would. They would build around street clothes, they would build around skin of paper, bones of glass Anthony Davis, and they'd find him a big rim protector like DeAndre Ayton or Rob Williams or one of those. But they

won't because they care about money, because they're broke. Like all family businesses, the next generation more and more cheap, cheaper than the last brock. All right, let's move on. Underrated. I can't hear you laugh, which sucks. Underrated free agent signings and trades. To me, the most under the radar team is Denver, Like they're not the best free agent team or signing team. But they're the most like under the radar. How much better we don't know, but they

did make moves. What they did traded Will the Thrill Barton, They traded Monte Morris. They got KCP back, who, let's be honest, KCP is basically going to step in in case MPJ isn't fully healthy. A wing who can get threes, who can slap stand in the corner. Not to say that's what MPJA does, but you kind of need somebody on the perimeter if he's not healthy. They signed DeAndre Jordan, low key kind of room protector signing. How much legs and knees and ankles does he have? Not sure, but

it doesn't really matter. Just stand there like Hassan Whiteside. They also picked up Bruce Brown. Interesting, the laugh delay amazing. They picked up Bruce Brown two years, sixteen million dollars, and I think that helps him. I think that helps him play small ball five. He solidifies Denver as having done something like if they wouldn't have picked up Bruce Brown,

they're basically saying we're okay with getting worse. Right, Denver's done something interesting in getting a guy who's very versatile he can rebound, he can get assists. He had two games in the first round of the playoff where he had twenty plus points and he had like almost ten rebounds in those games. And you add him to Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior and a two time VP alongside Aaron Gordon, this team could be really, really interesting.

And they have something now that it's very hard to find. Malleability, the ability to shape shift your lineup depending on your opponents, the ability to go big or small, or big or small that you can't tell with my hands, but I did the wrong way. I went small big anyway. I think this team is interesting, and I think that it shows that they're thinking about the postseason and they're not really thinking about the regular season, because you could be a four to five seed and still go a long way.

We saw that with Dallas. We've seen that with teams like Portland. We've seen that with teams like Denver in the past. He cuts really well, Bruce, he defends really well. He can score. Like I said, he averaged fourteen to five and three in the Boston series, with twenty three and twenty six and two games, up from eight four to two in the previous playoffs, and Brown, to me, is one of the few signings you can actually tell your fan base Listen, we're actually trying to do something.

Make no mistake, this is a move to say we have to be more versatile on defense. Bruskins can guard one through five when Joki is not on the floor, So that's very interesting to me. Number two, Boston Malcolm Brogden is a very interesting trade. It helps them immensely. I'm gonna say it. If Boston had Malcolm Brogden on this team against the Warriors, I think they might have won. That's how important someone like Malcolm Brogden is. He's a real point guard who can truly play make He can

be consistent in the perimeter as a scorer. He's a really good deep three point shooter. He's decent on on ball defense. He's six'. Five he's like what you would Want Peyton pritcher to, do but he's gonna get, cooked. Right Peyton pritcher became a liability on. Defense Malcolm brogden's not a liability on, defense but he can do even more offensively Than Peyton pritcher can do because he's much bigger and he's just more of a. Right he's very,

composed he's very. Safe he's a very sure handed late game point, guard which is exactly the opposite Of marcus mart who makes wildly crazy. Decisions he shoots well from, three really sleeped on slept on forty on catch and shoot, threes and he's gonna get a huge number of open looks. Too he's six,', five physical much more versatile as an option than Somebody Like. Peyton pritchard AND like, i said

this Team with brogden wins it all. LAST year. I think i, think so not just because, of defense because he has one point eight turnovers per game in his career and on a team that literally was averaging like twenty twenty playoff turnovers Against The Golden, State warriors like you. Need that and he's gonna get a lot of three pointers Open With jason Tatum And, jaylen brown and he's gonna be able to fill out that kind of guard Role Like, derek white but a better three, point shooter. Better,

defender interesting it's an. Interesting move another number three, Underrated Move dante DiVincenzo To, the warriors super, low key under. The radar nobody's talking about that very Unhappy. In sacramento they tried to get. Him twice it did not work. Either time and now we know That the Warriors Want Swiss. Army knights and That's what if you look back At What dante DiVincenzo Did in Villanova and lenova during his time to Win, the chip there very underrated, active defender

not only on, help defense just off the ball. In general gets his hands in the. Passing lanes pesky six, y four but with a pretty, long wingspan he, can dunk he. Can block we saw that very marquee block that. HE had i think it was in the, championship game if not in the. Final four he's not as good of a Defender As Gary, payton junior but you, know What Or gary payton the second but you know it doesn't, really matter like this is what you. Could Afford gary,

payton's gone so how are you going to. Replace him he's not as good of a three. Point shooter he shoots like thirty three percent, from three but he's much better terms in terms of catch and shoot fort on catch and, shoot threes and he's gonna be a good three and d guy six to four can block, very long really really HIGH basketball iq at a time or in a place where you have to have a PRETTY good iq to run complex Schemes Which golden state wants. To run deflects a ton, of balls tracks the ball.

Really well. Insane motor not a Replacement, for PEYTON but i think very. Underrated signing Speaking Of, Gary Payton gary Payton to portland. Love it One Makes golden state. Sad awesome Two makes damian a littard happy. Even better. Oakland Connection gary payton grew Up. In oakland dame grew Up, in oakland And those oakland roots. RUN deep i think that's. Very important He's a swiss army knife in WAYS that i think Shohn he billips is going to be able

to use in really. Unique situations he's an insane defender for how small. He is he's got a, long, wingspan pesky definitely someone you don't want to defend you if you're, a player, right like that is SOMETHING that i think is. Very important you can't understate how good he is as a. Role player he defends one. Through five he's a very explosive. Athletic roller he can get out, into transition, get steals extremely explosive AND when i say he gets steals like that's.

An understatement he had led the league per thirty six in steals two point eight steals per. Thirty six put that man in, the game coach on. The BALL like, i said he's a. Total pest he was one of the MAIN reasons i Think that boston lost, that series not just because of, his defense because of his, rebounding abilities because of his ability to roll to the rim and know where things are going. To develop he's in the right spots all. The time he has an knows

for how. THINGS run, i mean it's almost like his dad played professional basketball at a very. High level it's almost like that exactly the match you would need to play besides game since game plays, no defense and he is going to lock, games up dame out up. In, PRACTICE boy i can't wait to see something. LIKE that i need to know what those practices look like because he's going to be. In games asshole inside. Of it, number five here's. Another one nobody's. Talking About josha kogi

To The. Phoenix suns these are like very niche, moves right like nobody's really interested in. These PLAYERS but i think that they're very interesting and we'll be talked about in the season as as like a lynchpin for a team that's looking to elevate from postseason success to getting over. The, hump right he had a down year last Year Because anthony edwards is taking, his spot taking all of. His minutes he can, split defenses he can slash from. The

perimeter he's a really good. Rim runner he has really. Good hops he can play above the rim. And dunk he can block, really well has a nose for, the ball hunts the. Ball down he does some of the things that you would hope a Guy like ayton. Would do like he's not, a center he's not gonna be, a center but he can do some of the Things that ayton. Does well because it Looks like ayton's, Gone right he's gonna be really helpful if he's using the. Right SPOTS and i think the most important thing is

he's twenty four. Years old he's. Twenty four he reminds me Kind of Isaacacoro. In cleveland plays that like, tweener role not like exactly a, pure shooter but definitely somebody that you want to play An Integral jared vanderbilt type, of deal which is exactly the kind of thing that he likes. To do and. He's long he's six' four with a. Seven feet. Wingspan that's huge and if he can get settled, IN the ring i. Mean that's big if he can get settled in, THE regular season i

think he plays important minutes coming. In the playoffs if he's, six y four he could play like a four spot in a. Small BALL line and i think he can still play defense, on you know two three. Fours another one Pretty much the wolves. AS a whole i like, what They Did but kyle anderson just Ended up departing memphis in a way that nobody even is speaking. About it all he's kind of Like This. Year's dereck white

Comes from. The spurs system, very boring, player very slow, very light, skinned very fundamental and, you know what, awesome role player started a ton Of. Games for. Memphis very shifty they Call him slow mo because he literally looks like he's, Moving through sand. And that's fine like guys who play fast on defense don't know what to do, With My. MAN kyle anderson i honestly consider them, The Same Person Kyle. ANDERSON derek white i get him confused

for each other all the time because their. Games are similar they both Played for the spurs at around, the same time and, you know what they're. Amazing role players that's what he's. Going to do he's not a great, three point shooter but everyone seems to fall for. His PUMP fake and i, don't know why but everybody seems to. Fall for it an annoying. Player for defenses he gets. His shot off his arms. Are so long he has, great body, control great footwork and he's a, really willing

passer great. AT passing lobs i think that's going to be Very Interesting. FOR rudy gobert i think that's going to be Very Interesting For. Carling anthony towns really good at passing pocket, passes as well, good bounce passer especially in tight windows in like. Very packed spaces it's a. Solid pickup man he's gonna step right in to a. Really good role he had one hundred and sixty one. Steals last year memphis was the number one team in

steels last year and he was second on the. Team at steels that is something that they're going to need because that was one of the Things that the, wolves did. Really really poorly he can handle the ball a little well and, he's got experienced. He's very poised he's going to Help this, AUST a lot i think. During The Playoffs and john, moran, even said like. That's my dog i'm gonna. Be missing him and you have to Understand that if jaw thinks you're important to, a contending team

then he's going to help at a very Critical. Juncture FOR minnesota And i think minnesota in general actually is a team that has made. Multiple good moves Like They. Got brn forbes nobody's kind of Nobody Cares, about, brin forbes right but he's a good. Spot up, shooter this is like we've talked. About this before this is a league where you need stars and, you need capable competent role players. That are versatile, and That's Him. THAT'S bryn Forbes i think minnesota has a real shot to be

a dark, horse next Year much like dallas. Was this year loved these, moves for, Them, all right uh let's look at a few free agent signings out there that have. Yet to break let's look at who AND explain what i think is. Going on, there number one number one free agent signing that we need to know what's Happening Is,

probably DeAndre right he's the white whale. Of this offseason the big prize that's, actually out there not, the trade prize but the actual prize that you can go out, and get connected probably in some way to What's Happening. With Kevin durant kevin durant looks like he's Probably going to PHOENIX from what i Hear, today On tuesday, ju july fifth probably a three team Trade Given that Ben Simmons and DeAndre ayton cannot be on the. Same roster

together there's a lot Of chatter That Utah. Wants DeAndre ayton how they're going to get him is going. To be complex who's getting? Picks For who because utah is gonna Want to give Utah's Gonna. Want DeAndre ayton sons are gonna want something. For Him back kevin durant's going. To get, there, but then okay so what's going to happen with these pieces moving around? Like MUSICAL chairs so i think this is going to. BE really interesting i

think another one that makes a ton Of. Sense is toronto he would be Amazing In the, Nick nurse scheme like that's exactly the kind of big. Man they need they Ended Up getting christian coloco, in THE draft which i, Liked A Lot but christian collocal is a rookie and that this team wants to contend or do, Anything Of note DeAndre ayton would definitely help them. In that, sense number Two Where is colin? Sexton gonna? GO man like.

I don't Know when The Cavs signed darius garland, to five years one hundred and ninety three million dollars a potential to make two hundred and thirty, one million dollars that was Supposed To be. Colin Sexton's deal colin sexton

wanted TO be. A max player he ends up. TEARING some ligaments i WANT to say I, was at acl but it COULD have BEEN, mco and acl and it's an absurd contract that no one thought Two Years ago darius garland was, Gonna get right so that Means Most, likely colin sexton who has the Same Agent As Darius garland clutch, sports Of Course. Or rich paul, you're, gonna Say Well if darius garland, can get that then we must be able to get something in the. Neighborhood of

that maybe not, in the thirties but maybe. In The twenties anthony simon's got something, in the twenties so what's. Gonna happen there he's been on a steady downward trajectory since. His rookie year he, missed LAST year, like i said, due to injury but especially since the team was really, good without him And They signed ricky rubio to three years,

eighteen million dollars another underrated signing that flew. UNDER the RADAR i guess i don't know how he fits into the scheme of what they want to do unless he's going to take like. Eight MILLION dollars and i don't think A Guy like colin sexton wants to make. Eight million dollars executives seem to value him in around, ten to twelve. Which is wow. That is low that. Is really Low number three carmelo rumor has it he wants to come back and Play for the, knicks swan song.

Don't hate it numbers weren't actually that Bad. With the lakers in his Final, year in portland he had thirteen. FOUR and one i think it can be an effective. Three point shooter fifteen, minutes per game Ten minutes per game's. A, movie needle No do the nick fans? Really. Want him, back PROBABLY not but i would like to. See him happy so go where. You CAN go carmelo a on

a veteran free agent veteran minimum. Contract Number. Four dennis shuter dude is out there dropping thirty Eight points against poland right Now In the world cup qualifiers and still can't get a SNIFF from. An nba team turn down the Bag, from the lakers which we talked about a lot. On this podcast then he ended up taking the mid Level. Exception from boston then he Gets sent to houston on the dead, at the deadline only to watch His Former team boston celtics go to the. Finals without him? CAN

he play i think. He can play is? He? A cancer probably does that mean he would fit in Perfectly? With, The lakers absolutely and like they could get, him for cheap which is what they. Have To do the lakers feel like though best free agent Desk Donation. For dennis schreuder crazier, Things HAVE happened but i like that. MOVE for him i really really. LIKE that move a couple of OTHER ones that i think are interesting to. Discuss Really Quickly wancho ernon Gomez aka boat cruise From Our

movie the. Hustle possible destination the only one probably For, Him. IS minnesota minnesota i don't know if. YOU know this i just found. Out this Today Wancho got aunt edward's The role As Kermit. In the hustle he was the One lobbying for aunt to play the antagonist. In that movie and, SO to Me i need wancho as a role player. FIFTEEN ten minutes I need The wancho and kermit A boat cruise kermit like roommate situation on The.

ROAD in minnesota. I need it i want to believe this was like maybe special effects what they did what he did. As BOAT cruise But i think watcher still. Has Some game caleb martin has not. Been signed yet, His twin brother cody, got four years thirty two Million. From the hornets caleb wants. A similar deal would Love. Him in portland he'd. Be great there, six' five wing shoots forty one percent from three great. Three and d

wing he'd. Be a decent one he's probably the last one that's available Outside Of, outside OF miles bridges which i think It's A. Wrap, for miles bridges honestly that's that's. The consequence of life but he is only. Twenty seven years old i'd love to see Him go Back. To miami maybe portland can't wait to see. Where, He Ends up Finally Montrez harrell and miles bridges still. Haven't, been,

signed yet well yeah that's the way. That The cookie crumbles montrez harrell WAS pulled over in I, Want, to Say kentucky Louisville. Either louisiana Or kentucky Either. Was louisville or louisiana bunch of weed, apparently in his trunk. Like A lot pounds so i'm not sure how that charge is going to, work out for him whether. He's gonna, be Playing Interestingly enough Both Charlotte. Hornets and miles bridges you can google. What happened with him he got arrested.

For some domestic stuff no no paydays when you have. Trouble, With the law law so. Sad depressing stuff there that's. ALL that we, have, I need moves though I need moves like i need air because. Let's talk about this braun announced HE was signing with La in. Twenty eighteen july first kawhi announced he Was Signing with. The clippers july fifth it's You can't get past july, fourth without huge moves. HUGE signings going, on i need them, need THEM like air and. I need them yesterday that's all

THAT'S all there that i need. To say about that so let's move Over Forward to, the kevin durant saga because we have, to talk about it. Even though it's everywhere it's pretty Surreal To think that kevin durant has finally asked, to be traded, Officially, That he, said, hey i'm sorry guys this. Thing's not working out is this the MOST monumental? Trade in nba HISTORY trade? Request in nba history this Would Be like if kobe, bryant asked out publicly because we know he TRIED to leave the

la but nobody knew. Until. After the fact Right, It's bigger than Harden It's, Bigger than paul George. It's bigger, than kawhi to me the only thing on that level would be If you're honest or steph, asked out right now and that. Would be absolutely insane and what's nuts is That the people in brooklyn And fans of the nets just. Don't seem to whatsoever it's like they're so scarred of bad things happening to them that It's. Just like another tuesday it's just really like. Nothing is. Going

on you've blipped it's like. You blink your Eye You have three all stars and the top fifteen players, of our current day and now you. Have zero zero them And Then you've got ben simmons and you're hopefully going to get some picks back that. Makes Sense For. YOU for,

kevin durant i mean. This is so unprecedented it literally hijacked all a free agency TO the point where i think moves aren't Even Being made for DeAndre ayton because we know that they're Attached Or connected, to kevin durant right and should have been what should have been A Discussion about Like bradley Beal or levine or ayton, turned into. Just chaos mass chaos wendy reported THAT over half the nba has Been Looking, to get kevin durant and that

was before. Free agency actually began we discussed this as a possibility, about two weeks ago and rather than give, YOU lots Of speculation i think i'm gonna do something that. We haven't seen yet outline really quickly, how we got here going, back to twenty thirteen really when. All of? This began what began you might ask the same thing, that's happening right now the demise And crumbling of the nets franchise. As we know it and it's not that

very long, after they made that the same disastrous trade that. They. Do it AGAIN, right it Was Kg, it was Paul Pierce, it was Deron Williams, it was Brook Lopez. It was joe johnson and if you look back onto, how that went down it's pretty informative because history happens once as a tragedy. And twice as Farce Because the Second Big Three of kyrie katie harden is Connected actually the first big three IN, My opinion Of. Kg pierce, and williams so okay so set your time machine Back, to twenty

thirteen bron the first attempt by this franchise to. Build a big three they wanted. To, counter. The heat stupid stupid you Should Have known that lebron james would go somewhere else because. That's what he does he runs from. The grind Switches teams So The, Nett Receive, KEVIN Garnett, Paul Pierce. Dj white Jason terry celtics received scrubs and a bunch, of picks, twenty fourteen twenty sixteen writes to swap twenty. Seventeen and twenty, eighteen in twenty Sixteen That.

Pick becomes jalen, brown in twenty Seventeen That. Pick becomes jason, tatum In twenty eighteen the celtics had the number eight. Pick in the draft that Pick gets rerouted to cleveland as a, part of The Trade. THAT becomes kyrie irving i cannot articulate to you how bad that Trade was for the nets and how bad this Trade. Is for the,

nets what Looked like. Well, the hardened trade mostly what looked like it Was going To be kyrie and katie and a bunch of young players right with a great culture turned into no players besides What They, get for kevin durant no draft picks besides WHAT, they get for kd and a. Whole lot of chaos everyone wants to give their take. On who To, blame is It? Kevin is It? Kai is it hardened is it? All three of, THEM and to me i think you have to look back to, how this all began which is the mentality

of getting. Superstars to win titles if you look at, IT as A family i think josaia. Is essentially the father he's made His Billions, because Of ali, baba A Chinese, company The chinese amazon and jack Ma, currently who started alibaba has a net. Worth, of nine billion joseph he bought The nets from A Russian oligarch named michael. Prokaroff in twenty nineteen You probably remember proker off because he was the One Who did the joe si thing and

crashed the nets. The first time around and he did this by not only, throwing out huge contracts but by making sure those star players get taken care of. In every Way possible that's what joe said decided, he wanted to do is to make a very concerted effort into turning the franchise INTO a funhouse of nba teams to attract star players that. Want To Be There cy INHERITAGE Sean Marks as gm sean marx was hired in twenty Sixteen and told pro kraff. He, Was an idiot yo

you're an idiot for trying to do. This win now thing he saw the franchise implode and hit, just twenty one, WINS and he said i was clearing army that if you're, looking for a quick fixed guy like He did before that i'm not. The Guy For. You Hired, kenny atkinson sean marks, he had this slow methodical mentality about how. To Build a team the. Nets became A Succeed, they had Jared Allen, they had Spencer Dinwiddie, they had Joe Harris. They had Kris LeVert he turned Joe Harris into Something.

Torrian prince D'Angelo russell this team was an. Absolute blast to Watch And then when joe side bought The, team From proker off win now baby was. Back on the table so where do you think? This mandate came from Given The fact that sean Marks told proker offf i'm not all about. Win Now for, sure joe side right and from the, beginning it was like let's go out and. Get BIG free agents kyrie kd, came in Twenty nineteen

even though durant was. Out the full year he. Gets his full salary kyrie played twenty games games and then went to the, bubble, AND was like yeah i can't. Play in the bubble let's. Tart our own league let's not even. Go to The bubble KYRIE had Atkinson. And kd had atkinson they pushed him out the door because they didn't want to. Run wind sprints right just, four days before Coronavirus Four days before adam silver, shut down The league they Fired Atkinson Four days coach david fizdale said.

This about the firing when it comes, to players with power your front office has. To be really strong your culture has to be strong. To weather disgruntled players tell them, kids to. Fuck off settle down their little hot heads can go sit. In a corner Somewhere We're. Staying with kenny atkinson he got. Us to that place, he also says this you have to be a certain amount of

support for your coach. When things get turbulent they wanted to, appease those star Players So they allow kenny atkinson to, go out the door and then. To choose the coach they Chose Their. Teacher in steve nash star players didn't, want a hard driving developmentally focused coach when things weren't? Smooth from day one how? Could They Be smooth rock kevin durant. OUT a full year, kd played twenty. Games

a pandemic hit what? Are we talking? About no Gelling Time as As Kevin durant, and kyrie irving said we just didn't have enough time to jel. Give us some, time by, The Way fast forward papa joe decides to Do the same thing prokaroff had done in twenty. Thirteen AS an, Aside like, i Said Prokaroff Said The paul pierce kevin garnett deal was one of the biggest business regrets he's ever had. In his Whole life, prof a russian oligarch when he says a trade is so bad

that it's one of the biggest things that. Haunts Him at, night a russian billionaire. That's his biggest regret do you know what type of moves you need and deals you need to make in order to Become? A billionaire in russia as, my mom would say slit their mother's throat for? A loaf of bread do you know what you need to do? To be a billionaire that's the, thing he regrets most not all of the things that you need

to do in order to Acquire. The, billions in russia nope those five first round picks or whatever it was that they had To Give, to the boston. Celtics it was that but this is not as bad As The move. That joe side demanded so he lets the kids choose the teach a, guy who is great a guy WHO'S, a two time mvp never coached a fucking, second in.

His life not once they went from the strongest player development coach in the league to a guy who's never developed anything outside, of a soccer ball a guy who Could Be commentating in. Edmonton oilers, game tomorrow. No shape that's facts How Much respect did steve nash get when? He? Ended. The, League None zero immediately kyrie IRVING told the world. I could be coached i could, BE coached one day. Kd could be coached we're, all pretty much coaches, like we're.

All players former Players who. Cares d'An toni's here he lets us. Run everything we. Want it's all good turns out. It wasn't all good maybe you don't need a coach For A, seven time all star but a guy right out Of A, Sec In, Cam Johnson cam smith cam smith get. All the camps confused he needs to be, told what to do and there's nobody. There to shepherd Him Guys like old andre, drummonds Of The world the LaMarcus, audiers Of The world the blake. Griffins of the world

they need coaching to figure out their. Place in the ecosystem if they didn't need coaches to figure out their, place in the ecosystem and they, could consistently be good they. Wouldn't be role. Players they'd be stars role players. And Veterans Need, coaching if gary payton let, me Ask You this if gary payton a second could be and was who he turned Out To be With Kenny, atkinson and golden state he wouldn't have been sitting on. Any ten day contracts He Would have been, gary payton the second

making ten million dollars a year as a role. Player in, this league without that he'd be. Still on his, couch in other words, The kids need rules. The kids need structure We Saw it when RUSSELL westbrook went to la and. There, was, No rules disaster chaos and we know STAR. Players make terrible, gms case in point early on, The Twenty Twenty Season james harden kevin durant in. The summer start plotting harden

decides He. Wants Out of Houston kevin durant knows Harden. From, days in okay, see as you know and you might think, hardens TO blame too But i actually think harden was the first one to us out the Things, were BAD in brooklyn like i need to. Get out of here this,

is a Dumpster fire like the titanic. Is ready to Go So in our, brooklyn nets Family Analogy think of james harden's like the cousin who came to live there for the summer and thought maybe he'd stay for the school, year, AND realize like no i. Gotta go back home and We know how the harden trade went and how it all devolved because we've talked, about It a lot but kyrie went on A walk about and. Nash had zero explanation he Had. Not open to kyrie he didn't say

there was. Anything wrong with it he was so afraid to talk smack about his star player that We All knew that steve nash had no idea what. The Right moves were kevin durant was. Hurt in that season he played only thirty, five regular season games which is Exactly how many games. Harden played as well, kyrie sprained his, ankle as we know and they were one shoeprint away From Going to, the eastern conference. Finals probably the finals and that, was the amazing thing right Because The fact

that kevin durant played fifty three minutes. In that finals game is all you need To know about how steve nash manages his rotations and how close they came with those three at. Least somewhat in jail a lot of quick Fixes, trying to get hardened a fix that turned out to not be. So, quick after all right fast, forward To this season because kyrie doesn't get the vaccination, and the state mandates and we don't really need. To go into. That, He Only plays also Kevin durant signs

The Max deal thinking kyrie. Irvings gonna get it he signed it Thinking that same summer kyrie and him were gonna be lined up with That extensions and that harden was gonna be lined. Up, with, an, extension no. No baby no no. Kyrie's offer gets rescinded harden pushes, IT off and says i need to Wait to see if i'm gonna stay. For the school, year, SUMMERTIME still here

folks i need to just. Sit BACK and Wait and i think harden was the only one who saw what, the fuck was happening because multiple Times that presser is hardened, Saying to the world I'm Going to force kyrie irving. To Get vaccinated myself kyrie, irving Comes back, halftime and harden's like, This IS fucking outrageous like i don't. Know What's going On, andrew wiggins the. Canadian he's Getting, VACCINATED why can't kyrie i don't know. What is going on get.

ME out of here, I need my hookah i, need A new jersey and i need to go Up. The street to philadelphia. And that's the thing you can't put all your eggs in one basket. With no supporting cast you can't hire in a knick and his coach and expect him not, only to navigate egos, which he did okay but also coach of bug vevia young players, and veteran minimum retreads and then also be lying to the

media simultaneous about all the crazy chaos that was. Happening behind the scenes So then They Trade, harden for ben simmons who's not PLAYED a game in i don't know. Twelve, over twelve months now then of course the next flame out. In the First Round and now Joe. Sigh's done with

kyrie why Are You? Done with kyrie irving now you did everything to put him in a place to enable him to think that HE, could be the gm that he, could be the coach that, he cannot play games that, he could sit out that he can, go and walk about that he could wear no master his sister's birthday, party and get suspended all of these things that you gave him. The power to do, and now you're like

he's fucking. Around with my, money and after that it's clear that things need to be changed and you need to put in some, rules Into The place and kyrie irving's not really wanting those rules. To be in place daddy wants the kids now. To have a? Curfew can they now can you really, blame them for saying we haven't had a. Curfew this, Whole time fuck off we'll come home when we. Want to come home so? Who's

to Blame everyone, But Mostly joe. Side Mostly joe side because kevin lobbied To Get, Rid of kenny right kevin Lobby to Bring, in steve nash right he lobbied to trade the whole roster and a bunch of first round picks for an out of shape former superstar who you don't know if, He can actually perform and then, when it goes south he then. Lobbies to be traded but you can say no every step of the. Way to those things you can say no To, getting rid of atkinson you Can, say no to nash you can say No,

to trading for harden and you can still have. This roster in place but what we miss in This all is that kevin can't. Actually. Make Those decisions kenny that's it's like when a kid gets fat like a like. You see childhood obesity do? We, Blame, the kid no oh it's the parents giving. The kid the food it's the people in place making sure that the kid is supposed to. Getting nutrition or not you can't, Have. Cake before. Breakfast, kevin i'm, sorry no. YOU cannot absolutely not i don't

care that. You, really want it No You cannot trade jared allen for first and for four First Round. PICKS for james harden I don't care that kyrie. Vings on walk about we did not. Need another point guard we. Need, a rim protector no We can't put on We Can't put on DeAndre jordan on our roster for ten. Million dollars A year that's when i knew. Things were. FUCKED up right, then i was like they get to bring their washed friend for ten. Million dollars a year wow do? They?

Run the team, sesh so to me This Off. Balls on joe side, Kyrie's made bad decisions. Kd's Made bad decisions SEAN, marks Is The gm but joe side is one of the most active decision makers in. All Of basketball ownership and joe said should take every. Single bit of blame, And You know what joe sige's one telling everyone, who has season tickets you're. Not Getting any refunds joe SiGe is the, ONE who is saying i have to keep some semblance of money for THIS dogshit franchise that i.

Ran into the ground then nobody even cares about. In their own city and at the, End of the day he's going to do whatever it takes to preserve the value of his franchise and. Keep the money flowing and maybe That Means not trading, kevin durant at all and maybe that means, Finally saying fuck you where? Does THIS all Go somehow i think kyrie makes His, way to THE lakers and somehow i think they still. Don't make, THE playoffs and Third I think the brooklyn nets will

be a lottery team for. A very long time and they'll won't have their picks until the next, two administrations from now, two administrations from. Now Twenty twenty EIGHT rock that's When I, can Hear Tillman fertita, the houston Rockets, owner laughing in houston All the Way. From district of columbia, and you know what turns out the man with the. Shrimp forks pretty smart They didn't want any he didn't. Didn't want any players he just wanted all those picks and.

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