This is, he said, a ya viho with Eric Winter and Rosalind Fantaz. All right, welcome to another episode of he said, he said, and this should be the last, he said. He said. By the way, my wife Roslyin. We'll be back in town here once we start taping our new episodes next month. But this one is actually gonna air when I'm finally reunited with my wife and the families all together. We're gonna be traveling to Budapest here. She's having a great time on her movie. It's been
going awesome and we're excited. We're excited to get out there now. The funny thing is, I'm not I'm traveling solo, two kids international. It's gonna be an adventure, you know. Roslin was freaking out. Good, I think you need to take Delmi with you. I think you need to take del Me. I was like, look, I don't think we're gonna need Delmia. I'm fine. The kids are old enough now they can help. I got it under control. I'm not nervous. She's more nervous than I am. But it
is gonna be something wild. It's a long trip, long flight, but I'm looking forward to it. You know, the the kids have experienced this type of a flight once before when Rose was doing the Latin Grammys and they did great this one. Yeah, I think it's so fun that they get to have this kind of an experience, you know, with me traveling and that's in an experience of itself, but then getting to go overseas again being in Europe
at this age. I never got to do any of this when I was their age, we weren't in that kind of a position to take those kinds of trips. I did travel, you know, locally and things like that to visit family, but never got to do this type of stuff. And I'm really looking forward to what this new adventure is going to bring. Sabella has been in DC all this past week, funny enough, and so she's coming back and then we take off again. So this is going to be this is going to be exciting,
something new. I'm not stressed, Rosalind, you need to relax. It's going to be okay. I'm excited for Budapest. I've never been in Paris. I had been to before when in my twenties I lived over in Europe for probably maybe it was six months. So I feel like I'm a pretty savvy traveler. I've done it, in my opinion, like sort of with the locals, And back then it was no there were no even like phones weren't even a thing. I was dealing with, just maps. I had no way of calling an uber or do any of that.
Was take a take a bus, take the subway, or just walk everywhere. And I have a lot of my old maps from traveling of navigating everywhere i'd go, making little marks on tourist sites i'd go see. But I was also there, you know, modeling at times I was working, and it helped me get acclimated to the scene of the different locations. So we were going to be in Paris after Budapest, and I think that's going to be a very cool experience for the kids, especially because Sebbi's
taken French this year in school. I think it's gonna be it's gonna be cool for her to sort of be in the culture and be in the environment of everything she's been studying recently. So a couple of weeks we'll be gone and this will be airing, which I'm excited about. So this episode, we're gonna do more audience questions let me go and start with the first one here. Hi, guys, I don't know if you'll ever this, well, we were reading it, so you got that. Love you bull so much.
I'm currently studying in med school in Wales and would like to become a paramedic. My question is to Eric, I would love to know how was your experience in med school? Did you enjoy it and what inspired you? What skill from school do you use the most. So I never actually went to med school, let me tell you that I'm glad that you are in med school as we speak. I was pre med at the time at UCLA, a psycho biology major, and I wanted to go into sports medicine, mainly because I played sports my
whole life. I thought it was something I could really get into be passionate about, and it was I wanted to help athletes and that was personal to me in that regard, so I'd say that's what inspired me. My experience in school was great up until the point of when I got into this business, and it wasn't that that school became less fun. It's just I didn't have
time anymore. I started traveling so much. I was doing jobs and I couldn't explain to my teachers like, hey, I'm going to miss this lab practical I'm not going to be able to take these exams because I'm shooting, you know, a campaign in Italy. And they were not thrilled about that. So my grades started to quickly decline
because I wasn't present for anything. And then I dropped out of college and went back to college, partly just to have that completion for myself, but also my parents, who you know, helped me so much financially and was support getting me that far at UCLA, and I finally got my degree in psychology. So as far as skills that I used the most, I would probably just say general psychology to be honest, which is a broad term. You know, studying psychology is very broad unless you actually
go into the field and get a doctorate. But I would say just my way of navigating people and communication and stuff like that are probably the skills I took away the most from college. You know. I know, to this day, I definitely don't remember anything in my calculus based physics or any of my math. None of that was something I took away with that set on you know what I mean, Like that where it's really going to help me in the future. So that was my
college life. It was very you know, unique in that fact, and not normal by any means for somebody who has a college life. I didn't walk when I graduated. I just got a diploma sent the mail. So that's my college experience as my story. But keep up the good work. I'm stoked. I actually funny enough, when I stopped acting, at a period of time, I talked about this. I wanted to be a firefighter paramedic. So you and I are kind of on a similar journey. Just don't become
an actor and you'll live out what I wanted to do. Okay, next question. Sorry, I'm still battling a cold. Everybody, Eric and Roz love the podcast. I listen every week here in Australia. Would love for you to have Makeiah on as a guest. I love Maka and hear all about her dance journey before acting. Is that something you would consider.
Definitely would love to have Makiah back on. We had her once with Alyssa, but I would love to talk to Micheah personally more about her experiences dancing with Michael Jackson, her experiences. You know, she went to school for dance. It's uh, you know, specializing in being a performing arts and all that. And she has a very cool life journey. You know, met her now husband in college and they've been together that whole time. And we'll be a fun person to have on and chat with. So I will
definitely look to do that. Also, you wrote looking forward to Palm Republic being international. I can't wait until Palm is an international spirit. Thank you regarding the bottle and everything else, we appreciate it. We the Palm support has been incredible from everyone, you know, stateside and also overseas, and at some point we will be able. We're expanding here in the States as we speak, and at some
point we will make the international jump. And to remind people that are going to be in Paris for the for the con that I'm going to in May, I will be being bringing Palm merch shirts, hats, I'll have some bracelets. You have to bring cash. According to the convention, that's the only way that we could we could do the sales. So I'm sure it'll be in Euros, but just kind of gauge what we're doing on the website price wise, and we'll have it marked there what you
can buy and for how much. But looking forward to getting that merch international so people can even be more aware of Palmer Republic. With everybody's support, all right, next question slash comment here Antonella from Milan, Italy. I love Milan, by the way, I lived in Milan for a period of time when I was modeling. I've been there a few times. You don't really have a question. You just wanted to tell that you and tell us that you enjoyed the podcast. You came to know it not too
long ago after a new episode. After each new episode, while waiting for the next one, you get you you're loving the show. You try to catch the old episodes and catch up, which we appreciate you guys listening back. That's always important. I think you know listen, every episode stands alone, but there is a lot to our life journey that's portrayed in previous episodes. You have a daughter about the same age as ours, living in the same moments, moments and emotions as a parent, which I feel you.
I get it. I know we were living the same life for sure. You're terrorized thinking about her dating someone you know, a boyfriend, and you would like to thank us for opening up our life as parents and family. We appreciate you, thank you for sharing all that. I'll tell you a little funny story and this is again goes back to dating. My daughter, Like I said, is in DC right now on a school trip, and then texts me to let me know that she got hit
on by a boy from another school randomly. You know, all these schools are there at the same time, going to the same sites, doing this trip, which I did as a teenager as well and junior high. And some boy's friend came up to her and said, Hey, my my friend thinks you're hot or cute. I forgot the term they used. Are you into him? And I was like, oh my god. This was day one in DC. Different school. Didn't get a number, They didn't exchange that I know of. I hope they did not. I hope she never ran
into them again. But that would be a nightmare some other kid exchanging numbers, which we couldn't do when I was that age. You just you could exchange an address and mail a letter to each other, or a house phone number. But I'll find out if she actually got this kid's number and they ran into each other again. But that's just kind of stuff that we're navigating right now, which is so wild but so normal at the same time. So lots of love to you Antonella in Italy and
I wish you the very best. Thank you again for your support, and I will tell you with this podcast, the international community has been huge. We have listeners from all over the world. And I know it starts often
from the rookie and that's what brings listeners in. But the fact that you all have stayed with us this long, You've continued to tune in episode after episode or like an Antonella's case, even gone back in episodes, it means so much to Roz and I. We do this podcast out of love and we enjoy sharing our life's journey and talking with guests, but also sharing what we go through on a regular basis as humans, you know, as parents navigating life and as a couple. So thank you everybody.
Kathy on Instagram. What challenges in your career have shaped you into the actor you have become. That's a great question and I will say, look, we face challenges daily as actors in this business. It's getting harder and harder to get work and it's not just getting work, it's steady work, making a living at doing what we do.
And I think the biggest challenges hah, not being so sensitive or taking everything so personal, because we are in a business that is so subjective, right, I am having to be told by somebody else if I'm good enough or if I'm worthy in a sense of a job. And often what I've learned being on the production side of it is it's not about if I'm good enough, it's not about if I'm worthy. I'm just not right.
It's almost if you can imagine you're looking for a new piece of art, doesn't have to be expensive, just a piece of art for your house. And you go into a store and there are a bunch of art hanging on the wall. Right, there's a bunch of art, and you pick one out of fifty pieces of art because that's what resonates with you the most, and that's what fits your home. And that's what having a TV
show or a movie is. That's the home of the writer or the director, and they need to find each piece of art that is going to make their home complete. And once I've started to accept that that it's not a personal you know notion. Every single time someone says you're not the guy that is strictly, they're trying to find the right piece of art for their home and
I just wasn't the one for that day. But somebody will buy me at some point, somebody will choose me to represent their movie or their TV show, And I think that's been the challenge, is balancing that mentally. And even as a producer, we deal with this. You spend so much time in development making no money. It's all sweat equity, and even if you sell something, only the
writer gets paid to write. As a producer, you're still just putting in sweat equity and you're waiting for a network to buy you and pick you up to a series because youre what fits their home. Uh. It's the hardest part about being in this business. So we've talked a lot about this. I don't want to beat this up, but that's just something that's been difficult to navigate. Okay, Trey on Instagram. We have kids that are eight and five, and my wife and I are not finding the time
to have sex. I get it from a male perspective. Do you think it is better to try to put time aside or do spontaneous daytime quickies feel more romantic and fun? Being discreet around the kids is a challenge for us. Any advice, I this is a tough and very real question and very honest answer. Spontane eighty to me is always way better, whether it's during the day,
whether it's just spontaneous at night. To me, that is so much more fun and special and intimate versus feeling like it's put in the calendar and it's something we're just checking off the list now to that, you know, other side of the story to the defense, Sometimes it's what you gotta do. Sometimes you got to plan a
date night. And if you can make the plan for a date night, whether it's dinner at home after the kids go to bed, or it's going out to dinner, that should be a night that would lead to something more, some more intimacy and in a way you're planning without planning. Like to me, to put sex in the calendar and be like, we need to have sex every Wednesday. Take
some of the fun out of it. Still necessary if that's the only option, but I would like to plan in a roundabout way, you know, something not so on the nose which is, let's plan a date night where we're gonna go talk, have dinner, celebrated, you know, our love for each other, spend time with each other, which should ultimately lead to intimacy. But yes, you do have to make the time eight and five those ages, it's tough. You're all in. I mean, actually I have a thirteen
year old. You're still all in. You're busy all the time, and the older they get, the later they go to bed, so everything has to start later and you're tired. Make the time super important to me. It is essential and keeping a healthy marriage. So I wish you guys the best. Do whatever suit you both. If scheduling it doesn't bother either of you, schedule it. If spontaneity is what matters
to both of you, be spontaneous. If you guys are split on this, shake it up sometimes schedule sometimes be spontaneous. But it takes both of you to put in that work. McKee, I hope I say that correctly from Instagram. What is the biggest culture shock you have enter you have ever? I think encountered while filming or traveling. Biggest shock? That's a tough question. I go into most places filming I wouldn't say I have been anywhere where it's been a
culture shock that I can think of traveling. I've been to a bunch of places. I mean all over the world. I go into every place very open minded, excited. I like to sort of I hate to be a quote unquote even though I'm going to be a tourist, I don't want to stand out as a tourist. I don't want to stand out as a typical American sort of not trying to understand the culture, not trying to be in with everybody present. So I try to, you know, I try to get in with the local culture. So
when I say culture shock, I mean this lightly. It's different than what I'm used to. But I don't go, oh my god, I can't make this work. I feel so out of place. This is uncomfortable, the food, this that, the other. Yeah, So I wouldn't say there's a specific Southeast Asia was very different from me in a lot of ways. Loved it though, being in Thailand. Philippines. Absolutely loved it because I know a lot of friends here
in the States, so it was fun. I had had a lot of food similar in the States, too, so that was fun to explore and be there personally. Yeah, I don't know a and oh, you know, I will say this. I went into a USO tour and I went to Afghanistan, Pakistan was Bekistan, I think it was, and the United Arab Emirates. Now I didn't get to go into many of the cities. I did go in z Pakistan in the town there, I did do some of that, and that was a bit of a you know,
culture shock. It was very different. But I loved seeing how everybody lived and being you know, in the company of everyone being present. So it was it was a lot of fun. Laura on Instagram. In your episode with Maury, you guys spoke about people giving advice they don't take themselves. Which one of the sides do you fall on? And any advice for me as a person who gives but cannot take it all the time? All take it all
and drives my partner crazy. I often give advice to my friends, family, and I don't always follow that advice for sure, But I'm very aware of the fact that I don't do that all the time, so I try super hard to stop reflect remember my own advice, and I try to follow it. That is true even just a discussion Rozon and I had the other day, long distance,
going over something. I had to step back, try to be present, understand her perspective and what I want in return and what I also and hear her out, which is something I would preach to somebody else. So, as somebody yourself who often wants to give advice but doesn't always want to take it, you have to pause. You
have to give time. You have to be quiet. When people start to argue or get into a debate or a situation, personally, you kick into fight or flight, and immediately you often you want to retaliate or you want to either want to run from the conversation or you
want to retaliate and you want to fight. You've got to find a way to calm and quiet the brain and be neutral, hear out your partner, and then you have to be able to as respectfully as possible, share your side and hope that they will reciprocate and hear you out. So it takes a lot of practice, a lot of work. But to Mary's point and to what you're saying, yes, I kind of fall in the middle. I'm not a person that just gives advice and never
takes my own advice. I do take my own advice at times, but it takes a lot of work, and I have to remember to be quiet and be patient and listen. I hope that helps Laura. All right, Sally, I hope I said that correctly. The validation addiction conversation was really good. I want to have it with my children. I actually all the same. I want more to talk to my daughter. Funny enough, any suggestions on how to start that conversation. How do you do it with your kids?
You know, I don't know that there's a great way to start it. I think it's about sitting down and saying, hey, I heard this podcast episode. I'd love you to listen to it. I'd love to talk to you about something that I learned because I think it could be beneficial for you and your growth as a young person. I want more to talk to my daughter, I really do, when it comes to sports and when it comes to school, and also just her appreciating herself. You know, you don't
have to get validation from everyone. It's one of the reasons I keep my daughter off of social media. I'll be honest. A lot of her friends have social media, but I don't want her chasing comments or again. On social media, everybody paints the best picture of themselves, right They're They're constantly pushing for validation with what they post, and I don't want her to think that's real life
because nobody shares their their downs, their negatives. Everybody shares their ups and their positive So if your child is on social media, you definitely want to have that conversation. I feel like, don't chase validation on social media. It's completely false and the worst place to do it. But I would probably just start by maybe asking your child if they would listen to the episode, or just you can buy Morey's book see if there's a way to
explain it better. But I would just open up a dialogue, take your kid out to dinner, have a conversation. That's the best. I think you got to be open and transparent for sure, Tanya. What is harder to shoot scripted series like The Rookie or a daytime soap like Days of Our Lives. They both have their own unique challenges. I'll be honest. Daytime soap you get tons of dialogue, you do an episode a day. Obviously you're not in every scene in that episode, but it's a ton of dialogue.
You're working NonStop and you have to memorize a lot and you have to hit your mark and you get one take two max. You do a rehearsal and a take. That's it. Like I said, you might get a second take. They have three cameras running at once, so that would be the challenge. The positive side of a daytime soap is it's like a nine to five some days you get done really early. You never really work that late.
You don't work that many hours on average. Not having all those takes make those scenes go so much quicker. You have a bit of a normal life scheduling wise. Now on a show like The Rookie, the positive side is you can do You have more time and more opportunity to do better work because you get more takes, they have more to edit and chop into to help your performance. You're by doing multiple takes or wide to tighter,
a tighter. After that you get it's like having more rehearsal time to perfect what you want to do when the coverage is finally on you. The downside is your hours can be a lot longer. It's fun doing more stunts, right like on a soap, you're contained to a stage. You get to do a lot more and explore a lot more with locations and versatility and variety as an actor when you're on a show like The Rookie. But yeah, your hours are longer. We work, you know, soaps a
year round with typical vacation time. We get months off on The Rookie. So those are the positives and negatives of both. But I probably would prefer overall shows like The Rookie. You know that type of a scripted show. Number ten from your producer. These things are mentioned on IMDb trivia page. Please say whether they are true or false. You have a bulldog named Lily that you receive from Sharon Osbourne on the Sharon Osbourne Show. True, Lily passed away.
She made it to be thirteen years old. I did the Sharon Osborne Show twice. I did a pre interview the first time. I was on Days of Our Lives at the time, and they said, what do you talk to you? You know, tell us about yourself. I said, I just bought a new place and I want to get a dog, and you know, it's so funny. I love Sharon's bulldogs on her show. I'm a big fan of bulldogs. I did a modeling show a modeling job, and this bulldog was there and I started talking about bulldogs just
as conversation. And I did this episode with Sharon where I'm in bed with her, funny enough, being interviewed, and the producers came out with this little puppy bulldog and said, this is yours. We want to give this to you. It was the wildest thing. It was like I was being given a child on the spot. Hadn't even moved into my home yet. They had to keep the dog as the mascot in the production office for a couple of weeks until I could get my home and then
bring the dog to me. And Lily was amazing, and Sharon and I stayed in touch for quite a bit of time afterwards, and she was always lovely. You love to play golf in your spare time. I used to love to play golf. I was also a terrible golfer, and I went to what I say is anger management for golf because I would throw my clubs. I would, I was pissed off all the time. So I loved it and I hated it, but once I had kids,
believe it or not. I haven't really golfed that much at all, maybe a couple times since Sabella was born, so in thirteen years. It just takes up so much time. It's four or five hours of my day, and I just could never really shake free. So I don't. I don't golf even a fraction like I used to. You enjoy going to plays at the Pantagious Theater in Hollywood.
I do. I love going to theater, seeing plays, whether it's at the Pantages if I'm in la if I'm in New York, going to Broadway even better, love seeing the original run of shows. And yeah, that's something I didn't always love, by the way, I didn't really appreciate that until I got older. But I love good theater for sure. You are known for playing dead pan or angry guys, but in life you are very nice. You are a very nice guy with a great sense of humor.
I don't know if I'm known for always doing that. I mean I do. I did play like the douchebag a lot. I mean Harold and Kumar. I was a jerk. I've played a jerk in multiple guest starring roles in the show Vive Laflin I did. I was a lot of the character was a lot of fun. I did a comedy with Lisa Milano and never made it to air, but that one I was very fun. But on the Rookie, definitely, I think I've mastered that dead pan, serious, dry sense
of humor. But I don't know. I'm trying to think of other roles that I've done a lot of other movies. I did Ugly Truth. I was upbeat, positive. Yeah, so I kind of feel like I split, But I've become very known this for this role in The Rookie for sure. Hands down. Well listen, this was fun answering everyone's questions as always, I hope you all enjoyed it and I and anything that you were wondering or pondering. I hope I came through and got it clear. This in the
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