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Speaker 1

You worked hard for your money, but do you know how to make it work hard for you. You need a team with experience, vigilance, and a strategy to help you live the retirement you deserve. Find your financial safe haven with Haven Financial Group. Today you're listening to the new and improved Haven Financial Group Radio Show, where we bring you comprehensive weekly financial wisdom from the professionals. It's all about helping you solve retirement problems so you can

make your nest egg last. Your tune to the Haven Financial Group Radio Show with your host Larry Kolvig and Kim Karrigan your guides to weekly retirement confidence. If you're interested in protecting and growing what you have, let us be your financial safe haven. The phone nines are always open at six point two five oh four eighty four hundred. Now get your financial questions ready because the Haven Financial Group Radio Show starts now.

Speaker 2

Good morning, and welcome to the Haven Financial Group Radio Show. I'm Larry Kulbig, founder and see be have in Financial Group. We're very thankful that you're listening. Kim, good to be with you again. It's the holiday season. There's so much to think about, football and food, and everything else, but what we're going to talk about today. But I think the listeners are going to find this is really important stuff, no matter how much we have going on.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's the truth.

Speaker 2

Here.

Speaker 3

We are in the heart of the holiday season and people have a tendency I know I do, anyway, to sometimes push aside some of those things that maybe or you know, a little more thought provoking or take up a little more of my time. And that would include for a lot of people, maybe some of their financial situation.

And this is as good a time as any to maybe start thinking about your retirement and if you're in it, making sure you've got all your bases covered before the end of the year, because that certainly marks a very important time for a lot of issues.

Speaker 2

Yeah, So listeners can give us a call at six one two five zero four eighty four hundred, ask us questions, go online Evenfinancialgroup dot com. We have a couple more classes this year, and then we have it all set up for the beginning first quarter of next year as we go into a new year. So, yes, a lot of this may be overwhelming for people, it's not meant

to be. You can doualas yourself with all kinds of terminology and technology and all those things that may paralyze you from making decisions, hopefully not good decisions, and those are the things we want to just remind people of in this show today.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, let's run through some of the topics people can expect as they listen. We're going to begin with end of your retirement housekeeping. Again, these are some of these things that maybe you're not thinking about right now, but maybe you need to take a couple of days, slow down, step away from some of your holiday planning just to make sure that your future is secured. Then we're going to talk about retirement account contribution checkups at this time

of year. Those are some issues that you want to start thinking about. As Larry was just saying, as we see twenty twenty five on the horizon, a tax planning checklist again, twenty twenty five right on the horizon, some things that maybe you need to take care of before the year comes to an end. And finally, don't forget your estate planning checklists. All of these very important issues. Like you said, Larry, I think they can be overwhelming.

They certainly can be overwhelming at this time of year. But we're going to try to make it as simplistic for folks as we possibly can.

Speaker 4

So let's get started.

Speaker 3

Talking a little bit about that end of the year retirement housekeeping.

Speaker 4

I know that you speak to a lot of people about this.

Speaker 3

What do you think is the number one issue that people need to be thinking about as they are baking in the kitchen and end up putting up the Christmas tree.

Speaker 2

Well, first, I hope listeners are getting the attention with the things that we're going to talk about today, and a lot of people are not. And if you haven't had communication or conversation every year, but throughout this twenty twenty four, these are all things to consider and right now. Maxing out those retirement accounts, if you haven't done that, take advantage of it, take advantage of it if you can.

I know budgets are affect did with inflation, all the things we've talked about throughout the year, But maxing the four one k's out, maxing those IRA contributions, maybe that means contributing to your iras, taking advantage of those catch up if you're over fifty, just a little bit of that over time can make a huge difference to your retirement savings. And social security. We teach classes all year one because we love to educate a number two. They're

well attended because it should be an educated decision. So many people have this mindset that sixty two, I'm going to do it, when that does not make sense for everybody waiting later seventy you know, really looking at that taking advantage of those increases, especially if you're working, continue to work and don't need the money, rather than just making bad decisions of turning it on early, regretting it knowing that at some point you made a wrong decision.

Speaker 4

Sure.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, So let's just talk about timing if we could, so at this time of the year. What's important about that, Just making sure that you've sort of reviewed your own personal finances to make those kinds of decisions for maybe twenty five.

Speaker 2

Yeah, especially the contributions piece, because the contributions, they need to be done here, especially the roth conversions if that's applicable, by the end of the year. So time is of the essence. So we don't do any of it past December fifteenth, just because it's probably not going to get done, and you know, the human nature, it's easy to put

things off until the end or find out afterwards. So the timing of these things, and I'll sprinkle the other timelines in there too, healthcare costs reviewing that we are just coming off an extremely busy annual enrollment for Medicare, and Glenn and Isabella we've able to help a lot of people. They're here from sun up to sundown pretty much six days a week because people need guidance right away.

People think, well, if I'm getting guidance or advice on this, I'm paying more, which in the healthcare is not true. So have somebody work for you looking at all the different options you and I Kim. We're going to talk about a state planning here in a little bit, another great topic which we'll talk more here in the show. But be careful because as we visit with those that are planning for retirement or in retirement, I'm all about and I know maybe a lot of the listeners are

about generosity at this time of the year. That's great, but don't let it hinder or affect your future retirement plans. Yeah, it's great to bless those grandkids and kids, at least I hope it is, or maybe not, but we hope. So we don't want to rack up debts or deplete savings or retirement because that might be hard to catch up. And you know, this credit card interest is still through the roof. These are all things to be wary about.

And then, as Kyle and I have talked about in recent shows, reviewing those investments, making sure that whoever you're working with maybe taking advantage of tax loss harvesting to affects those end of your tax returns. All of this is things at Haven Financial Group that we do in house.

They don't have to be under the same roof. But as many have said, which is the greatest compliment, it's nice to have a CPA, which is lance on the tax planning, the investment team, healthcare insurance, long term care, the estate planning attorneys. We have that all that here at Haven Financial Group. And these are conversations that are not just happening at the end of the year, but they're happening throughout the year rather than waiting for the calendar year to be completed.

Speaker 4

Sure.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, Larry, who want to remind everyone who's listening that if some of this rings true for you and you have some concerns, maybe you have not really considered your strategy associated with social Security yet, or maybe you really do need to review some of your investments and your income streams. Then why don't you give Haven Financial a call. Let me give you the number. It's six ' one to two five zero four eight four zero zero six

point two five zero four eight four zero zero. You call that number, tell them that you heard us here on the radio and you want to set up a consultation. Go in for free consultation, sit down and talk about the things that you're concerned about. Now, Larry, at this time of year, it might be getting a little bit late to get those appointments in before we hit twenty twenty five, right, but that doesn't matter. Still get in and get your appointment set up.

Speaker 4

Correct.

Speaker 2

Yes, in any of these areas of retirement, yes, the calendar is getting very full, but we'll do our best to accommodate some things. Maybe able to wait till after the first Be very careful because sometimes decisions people get a lot of information, they become paralyzed, they become overwhelmed, and we know that there's a lot to go through and it may sound complicated, but these are the things that we do, and we don't charge a lot for it when it's added value. We'll have a discussion on

what costs are because transparency, transparency is extremely important. But if you give us a call, come on in. You have nothing to lose. If you're not getting the attention, you owe it to yourselves. Why not get some attention?

Speaker 3

Absolutely? Six one two five zero four eight four zero zero.

Speaker 4

That is the number.

Speaker 3

You can also go to Havenfinancialgroup dot com. You heard Larry talking about some of those seminars. They have social security seminars. You've got a couple leuff this year, you said, Larry.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we have a couple of solid security class and tax classes coming up. You can find that on our calendar events. But then as you look at New Year's resolutions, you can see the ones we have right out of the shoots in January twenty twenty five. Maybe that's something. But if we get on the calendar, because before you know it, twenty twenty five is going to be here, like it.

Speaker 3

Or not sure absolutely. What we're talking about today is just some of the things that you should be considering and maybe looking into during the holiday system and season rather and how this relates to your retirement. So we've talked about some of those end of the year retirement housekeeping issues, you know, thinking about your social security strategy,

considering roth convert maximizing your retirement contributions. When we come back, we're going to talk about retirement account contributions and a check up on that. We'll look at that a little more closely in how you can take advantage of the opportunities that are out there for you. Again at six one two five zero four eight four zero zero, you're listening to the Haven Financial Group Radio Show.

Speaker 1

Don't go too far. We're gathering more important insights and retirement pas Devinent The Haven Financial Group Radio Show will be right back. Stick around. You've got questions, We've got answers. Your tune to the Haven Financial Group Radio Show with your host Larry Kulvig and Kim Karrigan. Now back to the show.

Speaker 2

Good morning once again to the Haven Financial Group Radio Show. I'm Larry Kolvig, founder and CEO of the Haven Financial Group, discussing into the year things that you could do, should do, or just having a discussion on maybe some of these topics that have been overlooked over the past twenty twenty four. Give us a call six ' one to two five zero four eighty four hundred. We're simply just called to

get us on the get on the calendar. There's no cost associated with and we'll have good conversation, a good cup of coffee, as we always joke, and fresh cookies as well. Here in the holidays. I mean, who would want to pass that up?

Speaker 4

I don't know. I have to be honest.

Speaker 3

Are you guys at your house getting all ready for our to be holiday season?

Speaker 2

Well, we do go to We just visited our family on the farm back in Candy High for Thanksgiving. Great time had by all, which we don't get together very often. All our daughters are home, which is fantastic, and then of course they'll go back to college for three weeks and they will be all with us over the Christmas and the holiday season, which we look forward to because as they get spread out with four daughters, it doesn't

happen nearly as often as we like to. So we're going to eat it up as much as possible.

Speaker 4

Absolutely, you have to do that.

Speaker 3

You're right, because as everybody starts to spread out, lives get very very busy, and it's harder and harder to get everyone back together. And I think that probably a lot of people listening are planning the same kind of situation.

Speaker 4

That you are.

Speaker 3

You know, during you know, as we get closer to Christmas and then the New Year's you know, people recognize that they're going to be busier with family and different events. So now, right now is the time to take a moment and take a look at your retirement finances and make sure that you've got everything in line as we

approach the end of the year. We're talking about that today on the show, and we well, we want to talk a little bit about contributions now, Larry, you have said that this is the time of year that you really need to check to see if you're maximized and start thinking about what kind of contributions you plan to make in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2

Yes, and this is affiliated with any age listener that's listening to the show, not just those that are pre retirees or close to retirement or in retirement. The sooner you can start, the better that power of compounding will really affect. And retirement accounts are really the pillar to

your retirement plan. Making sure that you're contributing as much as possible outside of an employer sponsored plan came like a four to one K four h three B deferred comp You can contribute up to seventy five hundred dollars if you're over the age of fifty. That is for IRA and ROTH. IRA IRA of course pre tax money, ROTH being after tax money going into this type of account. Make sure you understand which one is more beneficial or

maybe both for tax planning. I find that very important for those listeners that have employer plans take advantage of that. The threshold or the income thresholds are all the way up. If you're in the catchup age to thirty thousand dollars a year, well you take thirty thousand compounded for ten twenty thirty years. You have a retirement nest egg which you're going to need in retirement. Some of you listening may well, somebody told me I can't do income make

too much money, So maybe that doesn't make sense. I can't contribute and get the tax advantage of WROTH. Maybe entertaining a backdoor WROTH is a discussion. For some it's a very good discussion. Others it's not applicable. But that's

why retirement is not a one glove fits all. It's an individual conversation or a family conversation to find out what makes the most sense at what age the timing of life becomes that much more important, and these rules change, so hopefully whoever you're working with is informing you of these changes. And again back to taxes. Tax planning should

happen throughout the entire year. Preparation just happens the first part of the year when you do your tax preparation, and there should be no tax surprises because the planning should lead to very successful tax preparation. And from any it's the same argument every year, Oh my goodness, I owe so much money or this or that, and how about you solve the problem so we don't have that next year.

Speaker 3

Sure, so, Larry, let's talk about this. It's very individual ased. I recognize that although there are parameters, but when you keep you talking about what's best for you tax wise, what are the things that you're looking at to make decisions about that.

Speaker 2

Current income for a certain year pre retirement or in retirement. Maybe you haven't made a Social Security decision yet and you're before full retirement age, so it's based on your birthday, which could be sixty five, sixty some months it's up to sixty seven. There's income limits, so maybe it doesn't make sense to turn on Social Security because of the income thresholds. There's just a lot of conversations that go into that, and everybody's situation might be similar but very

very different. Maybe you're going to continue to work, Maybe the spouse, if you're married, is going to Where is the income going to come from? What's the tax classification.

Pretty much all retire firemen and income is driven by the tax situation, and I want to point on one that kind of gets overlooked sometimes here at the end of the year, if you have the opportunity to max out that health savings account, that HSA account, please do as mentioned before, I think that we think that is more valuable, can be more valuable than that roth iray, because first of all, you're gonna want as much money

in there when you retire as possible. It goes in tax free, it comes out tax free for qualified medical expenses maybe maybe Medicare premiums. So max that hsiaout as much as you can every single year. Again, it starts with the conversation piece to find out what areas can you improve on, if at all and if so, implement these processes is which is where we are fully involved

in the implementation. It's part of our process as getting to know you and understanding you, the discovery process, coming up with some strategies and recommendations that we'll talk through see if they make sense. Why they make sense, I think it under it's an important to have an understanding and awareness of why you do something, and then we help people implement those strategies if they see fit, and then don't just put them on the shelf monitor it,

have continued conversation. Life happens quickly, and that is really our process. We take every person that comes in our door through that process and we help fit people in various ways. They don't everything doesn't need to be under the same roof. But you've heard me say retirement puzzle pieces should be coordinating, they should be working together, and so often they're working in different directions, which is not maximizing the potential.

Speaker 3

Sure, so, Larry, when it comes to retirement accounts, you know, let's say that there are people who are listening right now and they definitely want some advice on this, and they can't get that taken care of before the end of the year. Are there a lot of deadlines or can these issues be taken care of during the court the year.

Speaker 2

Well, that's why we'd like to do planning throughout the year to avoid the deadline at the end of the year. Of course, tax time is where you can contribute up to those contributions can be to the end of the tax season where December thirty first is when conversions have to be done. So if one misses an opportunity this year, let's make sure not to miss it next year. Do we have a couple of weeks to put this in place? Yes.

At Haven Financial Group, our deadline and with Charles Schwabin Fidelity Investments, which the investment team and we manage with our kind of drop dead deadline is after the pretty much December seventh, just because so many people wait to the end of the year and there's a good chance it's not going to get done and then you'll be

upset and disappointed. Whoever, don't set yourself up for failure, set yourself up for success throughout the course of the year, and avoid those annual mistakes that you've made for the last five years. Let's just stop doing that.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, So if you have questions about your retirement accounts and your contributions, and you know, maybe we can get that taken care of before the end of this year. But if not, like you just heard from Larry, you want to make sure that you're not making mistakes that you know, go into the next couple of years, then let let's give them a call. The number is six one two five zero four eight four zero zero. Again, that number is six one two five zero four eight four zero zero.

Speaker 4

Call.

Speaker 3

Set up a free consultation. Go in and talk to the folks that Haven Financial group. Talk to them about your retirement accounts. Talk to them about your planning. Bring your portfolio if you already have one, maybe it needs updating, maybe you don't have a portfolio at all, and then you can start from scratch.

Speaker 4

Again.

Speaker 3

That number is six one two five zero four eight four zero zero. And Larry again, at this stage of the game, is it too late to get in to worry about those contributions or can people still get things taken care.

Speaker 2

Many of the things can still be taken care of. But let's start the conversation now rather than wait to the new year, because next next you start a new year, people get busy once again, and next thing it'll be a midyear and nothing changes. And if you don't like the results that you're getting in any of these areas or the attention you may be getting, why not turn over a newly or at least get a second opinion. If there's nothing to lose, only to gain. You know, it was quality time well spent.

Speaker 3

Six one two five zero four eight four zero zero. That is the number for Haven Financial Group. A tax planning checklist. Larry talks about tax planning all the time and it's very important to him and it should be very important to you. We'll have that checklist coming up when we come back right here on Haven Financial Group Radio Show.

Speaker 1

Ready to find your financial safe haven. Your dream retirement is in reach. Don't go away. The Haven Financial Group Radio Show will be right back. Are you worried that your financial strategy might be missing something, Well, you're in the right place. Larry Kolvig is back and ready to help you find your financial safe haven.

Speaker 2

Good morning and welcome back to the Haven Financial Group Radio Show. Thanks for listening. Feel free to give us a call at six one two five zero four eight four zero zero or Havenfinancialgroup Dot com there's all kinds of tools on there, retirement tools, kind of a safe haven community. We have clients that put on good recipes and holiday fun stuff they're doing. So, you know, as much as we take this retirement topic can vary seriously in all these areas, we like at Haven Financial Group

to have as much fun with it. If you come on in. My wife loves to decorate the Christmas trees. We're gonna have a holiday client open house coming up mid December. So as serious as these timelines are, we're gonna have fun with it because you know, you know what, we've worked all year. Why not have a little fun with a serious topic.

Speaker 4

Boy, isn't that the truth?

Speaker 3

And you know, I just think that this time of year, everybody feels good.

Speaker 4

Why not make sure you make.

Speaker 3

Good decisions so that you can enter the new year feeling great about your retirement and about your future. Haven Financial Group at six one two five zero four eight four zero zero. That's how you call and you set up that free consultation and if any anything and you know that we're we're talking about today rings true with you, please feel free to give them a call six one two five zero four.

Speaker 4

Eight four zero zero. We want to talk about tax planning and your checklist now.

Speaker 3

Larry says that there is no great retirement plan without a tax plan, and certainly they're at Haven Financial Group. They make sure that the tax plan is put into place right alongside all the rest of the planning. So at this time of the year, Larry, what's it is the most important thing when it comes to tax planning that people need to keep in mind.

Speaker 2

Well, I'll point out Lance Larson is our in house CPA. He's been on with on the show with me a few times. He is our CPA. He's involved in these

tax discussions with our investment team and myself. The timeline fourth quarter we've been talking about roth conversions to make sure we don't miss that timeline, which is the end of the year, or let's just say the first week half of December, to make sure that we don't look back and say, wow, we did not fill that twelve percent bracket up, and we should have because these tax laws unless the new administration extends them, which there is

a good chance that that might happen. But we have to plan for the rules as they are right now, which is the end of next year. Take advantage of those opportunities. If it has anything to do with you, I will say we've talked about the contributions and the importance of those making sure you get as much tax benefits to reduce your taxable income in the given year. The timeline of those required minimum distributions so is really

the first big of December. We set up most of our clients with automated so they don't have to worry about that. But if you forget or didn't know, it falls on you the account holder, which there could be a used to be a fifty percent penalty, now it's still a halfty twenty five percent penalty if you don't take it. Yes, you can ask for mercy or grace from the IRS, and anybody that's tried to do that probably didn't have a lot of fun. We've helped to

some success do that. But how about we just adhere to the timelines, get it done, and hey, it's the end of the year. If you're a charitable person, now you don't give charitably for tax reasons, but we have clients that are very charitable. Maybe you don't need of the R and D s and those iras qualified charitable distributions can be very very beneficial to you and the

recipient donor advice funds. Maybe you had a big income year, take advantage a nice big hit to your taxes by doing a donor advice fund and so take a big chunk of that to give to charities you know at some point, but you can take the big hit this year. So really talking through these things, seeing what you can do if anything met max out of that. AHS say, do whatever you can to minimize your taxes and take advantage of maxing out these twelve percent for sure, the

twelve percent brackets. Making sure that if you're over the estate tax, which most people aren't federally IN'SO. The state level Minnesota, of course, is three million, so make sure. I just had a client in from rose Mount. They didn't have any estate planning done. She they were married for years. She had no idea the size of the estate that her and her late husband had put together. There was a huge estate tax issue that could have been avoided or minimized to a large degree, and it's

going to cost their estate several millions of dollars. Again, I'm not making this sound like it. This is only applicable to those that are very wealthy. It's for anybody that has a little bit to a lot or anything in between. See what's applicable to you, what's not, and get the benefits out of whatever planning you should be doing.

Speaker 3

What do you think is the biggest surprise for people when it comes to tax issues and tax planning, the thing that they don't think about, or the thing that comes on as a big surprise.

Speaker 2

I think one top of mind is right now is because it's annual enrollment with Medicare. Sometimes the people don't know there's a two year look back with it and two years ago there's a good chance they made a lot of money, and then all of a sudden they get two years into the future, and now they end up paying more for their Medicare, especially specifically Part B and D. The premiums are higher because they made too

much money back two years ago because of the look back. Now, there are things you can do, and Glennon is Abel to do a great job. It's called the IRMA release. We help people fill that out and go to back to get those premiums reduced. And a lot of people when they plan for retirement, they just don't factor in how expensive healthcare and Medicare, premiums and all that can be. So don't be the one that gets you just complacent

with what the plan you have this year. Shop it out every year to make sure you're at the right place at the right time. Because that why we've been so busy this year is there's been a lot of Medicare changes many people are not aware of, but they will become aware of it come the first of the year if they didn't make the proper adjustments. Life is full of life and retirement are full of adjustments. The problem is most people don't do the adjusting until something negative happens, or.

Speaker 3

Don't know that they need to be doing the adjusting at all.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the old saying Kim, well, you don't know can hurts you. It might not physically hurt you, but it could hurt your pocketbook and the healthcare being provided, the doctors you might be able to see all of those things. Again, not meant to scare a dishearten anybody, but it comes down to that education is the potential power, more communication, spend with somebody that can help or partner for example like us, or somebody can really pay dividends over long periods of time.

Speaker 4

Let me ask you about that. Look back for just a second. In addition to the fact.

Speaker 3

That maybe you were working and then you are retired and that can certainly change your income flow.

Speaker 4

What if.

Speaker 3

We stop working and then we decide we're going to move or we're going to downsize, and then you make money on that home that you had for all those years, Is that also included in that number?

Speaker 2

No, that isn't that. It's more you're modified adjusted gross income. That is the main number I will say with real estate. One of the things on that first segment, Yeah, if you're looking maybe next year to actually relocate downsize, maybe those steps aren't Those knees just can't do those steps as well as they could before. That's another place lanning consideration that you might want to start earlier than later. I know we still have you know, I think six

and three quarter plus percent mortgage rates. And I've found that there are some of these folks that are looking to downsize or one level living or kind of house locked because house prices are so stinking expensive still and the rates being higher, and they can't find a place to replace the one they've been in for thirty forty

or years, so they're just kind of stuck. But don't forget about real estate and maybe some future plans to move closer to those grandkids, which I see often what made you move here to Minnesota from Florida or vice versa, the kids and the grandkids. So I hear it so often and I get it. But again, real estate should also be part of the planning process.

Speaker 3

Sure absolutely all right? Six one two five zero four eight four zero zero. That's a telephone number that you call and you to let them know that you've heard us here on the radio and that you'd like to set up a free consultation to come in sit down with a MI member of the Haven Financial Group team talk about some of these into the year planning tips that we have been discussing here. If you already have a portfolio and you'd like somebody to look over it,

they would be happy to do so. If you don't have one, now's the time to get started. Six one two five zero four eight four zero zero. It will cost you nothing set up that free consultation. And if you're interested in attending one of those teaching seminars, and there are a number of them, on varied topics. You don't have to be a client and they are free. They would just like for you to sign up. You can learn more about those at Havenfinancialgroup dot com.

Speaker 4

Go to Havenfinancialgroup dot com. They fill up very quickly.

Speaker 3

There's a couple more left this year, and then of course already some sign ups for some of those that are coming up after the first of the year. Twenty twenty five, folks, it's just around the corner, and we're talking about planning for twenty twenty five and beyond and some of the things that you need to take care of.

Four December thirty first rolls around. When we come back, we're going to talk about estate planning and how important it is to start looking ahead when it comes to planning your state, and what Haven Financial Group can do to help you. In the meantime, we'll take a break and when we come back, we'll talk more about a state planning. Right here on the Haven Financial Group Radio Show, don't.

Speaker 1

Go too far. We're gathering more important insights and retirement ways Devinent the Haven Financial Group Radio Show. We'll be right back. Stick around. You've got questions, We've got answers. Your tune to the Haven Financial Group Radio Show with your host Larry Kolvig and Kem Karragan. Now back to the show.

Speaker 2

Welcome back to the Haven Financial Group Radio Show again. Thanks for listening. Feel free to give us a call at six one two five zero four eight four zero zero or Havenfinancialgroup dot com. Ask us some questions. All questions are good questions. I say our job description here at Hey and Financial Group is really answering questions. And many of you listeners have had the same questions for days, weeks, months, and maybe years, and you've never asked anybody the question.

Whatever it is, let us know, we'd love to assist you in any way possible. This one, Kim is state planning. I and several of the staff have years of experience in this area. Our estate planning attorneys though, are Kim, Anna and Keith, and this one is very important and there's lots of misconceptions.

Speaker 4

Well, I think one of the first things we want to clear up for everyone is.

Speaker 3

That we're not talking about only those who have big, huge estates. We're talking about people who own, you know, just just a small amount. Everybody needs an estate plan very true.

Speaker 2

It's not just for the mega wealthy. How many of us really know any Really? They call them trust babies that have gotten multimillions of dollars a well through a trust fund. Now they're out there in more power to them their family whoever gave them the legacy pay that's fantastic. However, or if this is the normal common folk retiree that's worked hard, we see them, many of them on a weekly basis. Oh I heard that's only for rich people.

It could not be further from the truth. Now, not everybody is really going to necessarily need the same thing. I will tell you there's certain documents that everybody should have to some degree, having a legal will, maybe looking at a revocable trust, maybe looking at a transfer on death deed, documents that one should have whether you're single or married, health care directives, durable powers of attorney for financial medical records, healthcare. One must understand that we live

in a very litigious society. There's no automatics for anything. There really isn't. And I know there might be some listeners listing that our husband and wife or life partners. And you say you've been making decisions for your spouse for forty to fifty years and if something happens, I'll still be able to make those decisions. That is simply not true. There are no automatics today. Again having the right legal documents, and that really starts with a no

cost consultation. If it's with us to really talk through those things. This conversation will be with one of the estate planning attorneys. There is no cost for an initial consultation. If there's documents to be done. Like any other areas of retirement, there's one hundred percent full transparency. What would that cost be, what would it entail, what does it look like? The attorneys are very educational, just like we

are in all of these areas. And if you've been putting it off, I just this last week had a couple in four they've had four kids that are adults, and they said, I go, you've never had a will in your life. Nope, but we've been talking about it for forty years or others that did it when their kids were minors for guardianship conservatorship, which is another reason you should do it. And now those kids are thirty and their old will says they got to go live

with their uncle or something happens. They're adults and they have their own kids. And I'll tell you this, what's pretty neat about Kim and the estate planning. Ataria Sheild is the principal of the law firm. Is every year around graduation time, she'll run a special for those kids that are graduating that turn eighteen years old, because now

they're an adult. There's certain documentation that should be that should be done to protect the interest of those kids or to protect the interest of the parents if something happens. So who at eighteen is thinking about doing this? Not many, including me when I was eighteen, and that wasn't yesterday.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, Well, you know, Larry, one of the things that I think is a real misconception when it comes to estate planning is people just assume, well, I've been married, and you sort of hit on this, but you know, I've been married to my wife for sixty two years. If I go first, everything will just go to her. It's just that simple. And that's not necessarily the case.

Speaker 2

No, it is not necessarily the case. It might be somewhat of the case, but you really want to dot your eyes and cross the t's because in many of these areas, one only has one chance to make it work. Is from the fundamentals of having beneficiaries on all those bank accounts payable on death, perhaps beneficiaries, primary beneficiaries and contingent beneficiaries because life happens, making sure beneficial interest avoids probate.

Now there's different probate rules in different states. Many would say they want to avoid probate. Well, there's no automatic to doing that. Then it may take certain documentation, a transfer on death deed oftentimes for a property. But talk through those, our attorneys talk through those. Because if you have more than one kid and then they're married, well then do they all have to agree? Will that happen?

Oftentimes people work so hard during their life to do put together whatever they put together, money, investments, jewelry, vehicle collections, and they don't really pay attention to what happens if they're not here to make these decisions, and that can I've seen it break families. I've seen legacy that was intended to go one way go a different way just

because nothing was done. I mean, I'd have a a shout out to one of my clients who came in this past week and I was had a client that were just leaving Michael who was in visiting with one of the attorneys. Recently, his wife went into a nursing home about a month ago. He brought in a bill for thirteen grand. They had done no estate planning. Kim and I came in. I just came out, I said, Michael House, Kathleen doing he goes not good. She passed away now not never a good thing, but number one,

she's not in pain anymore, and she's at peace. But he was left not knowing what to do. Now, I'm not blaming anybody. It's not anybody's fault, but it's those situations you don't want to find yourself in not being able to speak. Powers of attorney are necessary, and I'm all about doing yourself if you're capable, But I am very very cautious that when we hear you know somebody so, well, I'm going to do all my legal documents by myself. Well do you have a legal degree. We're in a

litigious society. If it doesn't work, you're in trouble. And there's certain legal ease that needs to be in these documents. Nothing is free, don't pay too much, but make sure you're getting what's necessary. Again, whether it's wealth, you're trying to transfer, whether it's personal property, whether it's just simply making decisions. The more information Again, this upcoming year we're going to be giving out to our clients that they'll be able to give to their kids. And I think

it's really cool. It's a haven what Next, big binder, What Next and documentation for those kids or grandkids or even if it's nieces and nephews, whoever is going to benefit our information the better. And so our clients are going to get that what Next book, so when they are gone, there's going to be clearly outlined on what happens next and how we can help them do it.

Speaker 3

Well, I love that ideal, Eric, that's so smart, and that's frequently at a time too, when people don't really want to think about those kinds of things. There are so many other things going on in their life and they're dealing with possibly grief, and they don't want to think about that. So if it's all taken care of and documented that it's so important. Something else you pointed out that I think people really need to think about.

So if you're listening right now and you think, well, I've already taken care of my estate planning I already have a will. Well, have things changed in your life since you wrote that will? Maybe you've got kids who have gotten married, or you've got kids who've gotten divorced.

Speaker 4

You know, maybe you've gotten divorced.

Speaker 3

You know, maybe your financial situation has changed and you want to direct that money or those items in a different way. Those are all really important things. I think people sort of forget about it because you get a will and then you just don't want to think.

Speaker 4

About it anymore.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that old saying I've heard so many times over the years. We've been thinking about it, we've been thinking about it. Well, sometimes it's great to think about, but you've got to execute because if you don't, you're thinking about it doesn't do but one bit of good because it didn't lend itself to getting any results. And whether you're young or old or anywhere in between, whether you're eighteen a state, planning can mean different things. But it

can be the difference between transferring generational wealth. It can be the difference of just causing strife in the family and not strife. Unfortunately, I've seen it break up relationships and siblings. Again, the greed factor in human beings is very high. And this is the statement I've heard over the years many times. Oh, our kids would never fight, or our family never has any problems. I hope no

families have any problems. But then why have I heard hundreds and hundreds of families that had problems even though they said there wouldn't be any. See, when you're not here or you're not able to speak, and somebody is able to speak for you even though you're not able, that doesn't always go the way people want it to. I don't care how great of kids you have or how great of families. We want to do the best to dotterize and cross the t's and control what you

can control. And that as much as we put into the estate planning documents, it feels.

Speaker 3

Like to me, Larry, at this time of year when we are giving, this is one of the great gifts that we can give our heirs, our loved ones, just to make sure that everything is taken care of, that no more stress and no more issues come upon them. If in fact this time comes.

Speaker 2

You summed it up very well. I tell folks, when you get it done, and I'm hoping you do, time is of the essence. None of us are getting younger. In fact, we're all getting older, I've been told. But we'll try not to ponder that too much.

Speaker 4

Well, not you and me, but everybody.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's always there, Always seems to be a breath of fresh air, a smile on the face. Once they have executed these documents, notarized, done all the things they're supposed to do, a smile, and we've finally got something done. We've been saying we're gonna get done for a long time. There's a sense of satisfaction. I can tell you some of the the kids of our clients are actually pressing mom and dad get something done? Would you? Then the kids have got it done, but

they're retired. Parents haven't got it done. So if there's kids listing and your parents have done, don't have it done. You do it for as much for each other, if you're married, as you do the family. You don't want those headaches that mom and dad are hoping are not headaches. You want them to dot the rize and cross the t's as much you need to get as much as you need to get your own stuff done.

Speaker 3

Absolutely six one two five zero four eight four zero zero six one two five zero four eighty four hundred.

Speaker 4

That's the number. Call that no birr.

Speaker 3

Tell them you heard Larry and me here on the radio and that you'd like to come in to Haven Financial Group for a consultation. Talk about a state planning, tax planning. Let's talk about your you know, your your retirement and what it is that you want. If you've got a portfolio and you need someone to.

Speaker 4

Look over it, there there.

Speaker 3

If you don't have one, there for that as well, get a partner and make these years the best of your life.

Speaker 4

Larry, thank you so much. Lots of education today.

Speaker 2

Yeah, a lots. I hope everybody now had a wonderful Thanksgiving, enjoyed family and now the hustle and bustle of the holidays, the Christmas season, New Year's I hope everyone takes a step back and takes a big breather and enjoys their family and don't don't get all caught up in it, have fun with it, but remember the reason for the season again. Six one two five zero four eighty four hundred. Kim. We'll see you next week.

Speaker 4

All right, Larry. Thanks have a great week everyone.

Speaker 3

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