Salvatore Pais' Superforce

We are alive here today with Salvator Pious, one of my favorite people on the planet. Right now, he is doing my first ever interview. This is going to be hard truse with Salvator Pious and Ashton Forbes. So right off the bat, sir, go ahead and introduce yourself. Never ever call me sir number one, call me brother. That really goes to the soul with me. So Ashton, thank you very much. This is an honor to be your first interview. So I'm pretty sure there will be a lot

more after this one. Trust me on that now, and I hope to be in further interviews as well. That'd be great. Now, all right, let me give a disclaimer right off the bat. I'm required to do this, so I come on this podcast as a private citizen and the let's say, the statement, speculations, opinions that I make are in no way implicating the United States Navy nor the United States Space Force. They are my own and as such I shall present them. Now. Can I give five

minutes? So arg and okay, floor is yours, sal The floor is yours, Thank you, sir. I was born in Romania. I'm very proud of my Romanian heritage. You can call me American apple pie made in

Romania. I just love hearing that. I heard it once before. It I like that, so I will say something in Romanian so people are convinced that I'm from that Roman Treasca Roman Treasca Romania and n uh Basically it says I'm very proud of be Romanian, hooray for the Romanian people, hooray for Romania, and nothing without God. And as far as why I'm here,

uh we. A friend of mine told me that they have changed right after the Timber and Tour interview where I gave an interesting rendition of the Piace effect called police affect resurgence. By the way, I practically implore your audience and everyone on the livestream to google the police affect resurgence. Those three words Piace affect resurgence. It goes directly to a Timber and Tura page. We will tell one day whether it's taken down or that it's you know, another little

point in the spectrum. Let's call it that. Yeah. So basically in Wikipedia and October eighteenth, I believe this year they changed right after the interview, almost they changed to say that my work now represents a scam, a pseudoscience disinformation when you go into bing. Now, the AI agent never before

has it done this. It caused my work crack Potter, and it's almost as if my work is starting to have a concerted effort to be undermined shadow Band, and you have to question why, especially after the Timbentur interview. You have to see that to see where I'm coming from now, it is very important to also understand that I challenge the mainstream physics community to send their

best. We're talking about people like Carver Mead. We're talking about people like Seth Lloyd, next Uh, Max Tech, Mark, David Gross, Uh, Brian Keating, Stepan Alexander, Yeah, others, Frank Wilcheck any Nobel Prize winner they have out there. I wish to have a committee whereupon I'm given one hour. I'll go to the blackboard and prove to them that the Piace effect and the super forse concept are correct. I'll show them exactly how

they were derived. They're extremely simple and minimalistic math. I believe in Arkham's razor. I do not believe that mathematical acrobatics should pass for great physics. As a matter of fact, I believe the simpler the mathematics, the more important the physics, especially if you have a good understanding of what the problem is. Many times great physics is found by accident, is not actually looked for. And one other thing that I wish to mention also is that this

is no new physics. This is a new perspective on all physics. And this is what makes it incredibly interesting because there's so many things out there that have not been tried yet. It is as if classical electromagnetism theory has been put aside the moment quantum theory came in a lot of things that we're introduced by Oliver Heavyside into the equation of Jim squat Maxwell where sidelined and things they

should have been looked at weren't. Anyway, I will not There's one more thing that I need to say, because it we have to be careful exactly how I answer certain questions on the Poe effect, because unfortunately, as almost every other piece of physics out there, the pace effect can be weaponized and it can create a super weapon of world weapons, a weapons of such incredible power as to render the Teller Ulam device a pop gun in comparison, and

this is not ubras this is mathematics and physics. Now, it is also important to realize that a weapon of this nature, any army, and I mean any army that would feel the weapon of this nature first, would become invincible. Number one, number two, and this is incredibly hot. It's very, very important to understand. What this super weapon would represent is a new epoch in deterrence. No sane nation is suicidal, and any insane nation

should not exist. Hence, let's leave the super weapon in the realm of physics. But let let the audience know, let your live stream know that certain things numbers, frequency, ranges, spectrums I cannot discuss. This is something that can be quite detrimental to national security if taken in the how should

I say from the incorrect perspective? So I will not even touch on that if I I hope I have you understanding that if I disagree with a question, I will try to be as as polite as possible, but I will say, in the interest of national security, I can unanswer that question. Yeah, so you already went through like four of my questions right there from your interview, from your intro right there, and I just want to agree with you on that front. You know, I've heard you say multiple times

that you are not a spy and you are not a patriot. I am also not a spy and I am a patriot as well. And to that sense, the thing I would bring up is, this is actually one of the optional things I was going to bring up at the end, but you just kind of addressed it, is that My opinion is that most likely our foreign adversaries have already potentially figured out this type of technology if what you're going to be telling to us is true, And what that means from a humanities

perspective is we need to be very responsible with this technology. Because I agree with you. I talked about it last night in my space that mutual as short destruction. But it's a whole different epoch of deterrents that we are not just nuclear weapons anymore. Now we're talking about something else millions of time. I was more dangerous that can modify space time. And as a matter of fact, the Shwingle limit breaking breaking the Shwingle limit points to that fact.

This is physics, This is not This is not crack pottery, this is fiction. It's just absolutely not sometimes I wish it was. It is not science fiction. This is science fact. And I'm like you, if I accidentally call you sir, it's just a matter of respect. I do that a lot for people that I respect, and you're one of the people. I have the same thing. Don't take personal offense. If I do it. My own boss is like, stop calling me. He's a great dude.

Yeah, So you're ready to diget into this thing because I think that you touched on part of what I want to begin with, which is you've mentioned in your previous podcast, and I don't want to rehash all the stuff that you've talked about before, especially with Kurt, who I thought you had a great interview with. I listened to the whole thing, and he's a very smart guy, especially when he was talking about quantum gravity. I just thought, Wow, this guy is super intelligent, well courage I mongo is

truly a theoretical thing. If he was representative of the mainstream physics community and he had to say, I'm one hundred percent that at least you'll give me a hearing. Yep, at least, And I think our plan here what I want to do is hopefully vindicate you in their eyes as well, and get that hearing that you want, because I think that what we're going to be talking about today, the physics that we're going to be going over, is practical. It's stuff that can really exist, and we need to make

sure that it gets the proper respect. And that kind of goes into my first question and point is that you've mentioned that your papers were submitted to I believe Cornell, and they wouldn't publish them without a sponsor, right, Why do you think that is? What do you think your view is there? Cornelli University Archive is in my opinion, the best three print service of all

time. As a matter of fact, once you publish an Archive, most likely your paper will be published in a highly impacted journal, if at least not a high impact, at least a moderate impact journal. So in other words, one hundred percent your paper will be published. So I have great respect for Archive. The fact that they need sponsors. Maybe it's quite possible

that a lot of individuals put certain physics in there. That is, I look, Joe the plumber can write a physics paper if he understands the precept, the foundational, the fundamentals of physics. Once you understand them. You can write a physics paper, and even Joe the Plumber can publish an archive if he has a sponsor, unfortunately, But the whole idea being is we're not living in the time of Einstein, where basically a Swiss patent clerk can

get five papers published. This is the Anno mirabilis, the year of the greatest five papers, in my opinion, that open physics to a whole different dimension of of of of of of reality, of possibility. Conditional There's no such things impossibility, the only conditional possibilities. But to go back to the idea of why I think Archive is blocking and needs a sponsor is sometimes you can judge. You cannot just go on Archive and say, look, Einstein

was wrong and here's that please. You know, there there have been so many proofs as to the fact that the gravitational field equations of Einstein must be at least partially correct because there's so much experimental evidence for it. So bring if you have a theoretical argument against Einstein, then you must argue from a very strong mathematical and physical background and also present experimental proof, and some of

these papers, unfortunately do not. Now I understand where they're coming from. How Whoever, in my opinion, we do not live in the time of Planck and Einstein and Heisenberg and the great ones. Even Fireman, I mean Fireman is about nineteen fifties. Still we don't know. So I think that's hard to publish. And sometimes people that should not even get there because they know the editor or the chief at a Please nepotism in physics, I'm permissible,

And that's what I would argue as well. Just not to cut you off, but I think that I agree with you there, And what I would argue is that academia's kind of forgotten what science is, right. Science is a scientific method. It's the study of observable reality, of being able to experiment and be able to prove concepts, you know. And I think that now what you just pointed out is that it's been inundated with credentialism, right, and saying who do you know? On what do you know?

And so you know. One kind of point that I would say, kind of closing that bit off, because I think that you have been done at disservice, is that sometimes seeing is believing, you know. Imagine if we had video proof or experimental proof out there that could prove your concepts right. Maybe that would give another level of credibility to the things that you're saying. Absolutely, sir, experiment Trump's theory every time. Again, experiment Trump's theory

every time. And it's an interesting verb and a lot of people get a little itchy when they hear that word. But still experiment Trump's theory every time. Now, can I just give a quick edition of the poace affect Resurgence. Oh, it's important for people to before. In my papers, actually in my patents, there was one paper that I was able to publish in a high impact journal. I triply try Action some plasma science. It's on

the plasma compression fusion device. And the chief editor had two two different I went through two different review boards. I mean it took a long time. As you can see if you look, it took a long time for me to publish respective. I went back and forth, argue this argue, but at least they were open minded enough to realize it was something new, something worthy of being seen. Again. This is all I asked for, is a chance to express myself, to express this physics that I think can have

some meaning to the progress of civilization. I want nothing more. I don't want royalties, I don't want money for that. I don't want anything except the progress of civilization. We need unification of civilization in order that we do not perish from desert. I'm afraid of the future, sir. It looked extremely blank at this point than time, and we have we either come together and as one unification, one unified civilization, or we shall perish. That's

what I've said many times as well. Actually, and I think that what you said about science is very accurate too, and that the way I've seen science too is that it can be encrusted, very molded, and then it takes somebody to push it forward, break through the barrier, right And with your science, that's what I see, is that I see that people don't

want to believe in it because they haven't been told that it's possible. And if they were just look at your math and look at your models, I think that they would realize that there's something there that's actually substantial and then it can push us forward. The thing you said about unification, I say that almost every single time, is that we live in such a divided world right now, where if we get that unification. This science could potentially be that

thing that unifies us towards common purpose. Right. The physics of the super force, in my opinion, can bring about unification of mind and soul. The two should not be driven apart. The one and the same, one manifestation of the other. All is one, One is all. This is the true basis of hermeticism, and this is a true basis of all future of civilization. If we have a chance to survive, this is it unification of civilization. It has to be a common goal, a common objective.

And why not. I remember at one point Eric Weinstein, as a matter of fact, mention one time travel. Maybe this should be our final objective to leave this Earth, break the tackles of Earth, break the bounds of Earth, and become an interstellar civilization that maybe, just maybe will give us a chance for survival. The road that we are currently on is total abysmal in perdition. I couldn't agree more so, let's sake, let's tack your detrip quickly. Oh I was going to go to that in just a second.

I think that's the next question, if you don't mind, Because what I want to do is I want to debunk this. There's a debunk of a debunk of you. So the biggest thing I think your detractors mentioned when we talk about your patents. They claim that you can patent anything. Now, what I read or from watching your last interview, is that only three of your five patents were even approved, which to me would indicate that it's not true. So I would like to get your opinion on that, sir.

There's very simple way to debunk the I don't even know what the correct terminology is anymore. For example, I don't use uap UFOs. You shouldn't have raised seventy years of history just because I'm thinking that new terminology would somehow eliminate the derision. The derision is far more basic than that history is important, sir. Yep, never forget, never forget history, okay, But anyway, the way to argue that is look at the office actions of a

great primary examiner called Philip Bonzell of USPTO. Oh my goodness, him and I went back and forth between him Mark Blute, who is the United States never patent lawyer and also a good friend of mine, an amazing paper lawyer. This trust me. Anybody that can write those and also the office actions. You should see what Mark did. You should see what Mark Blue did with the office actions. In response to Philip Bonzell, Philip Bonzell, I

mean he really bit into the physics. He said, you cannot tell me that it's possible to create electric fields and the order of ten to the eighteen votes per meter and induction magnetic induction otherwise known as B fields magnetic flux density and your order of ten to the nine tesselas. And it's an easy way to remember that it's equal c being the speed of light free space. But anyway, so that's how I remember the numbers. Sometimes I forget that myself.

But the whole idea is once once you're able to create, it's not exactly that you create E and B of that, it's the energy density that you can create from rendering the price effect and the piace affect speaking to the pace effect, Is it okay? If I give yeah, I think that's a good segue. That was my next thing, So jump on in.

What's your definition of the Pioce effect for our viewers? Okay? It it can be thought of as controlled motion of electrically charged matter going from solid to plasma undergoing rapid acceleration transients via accelerated vibration and or accelerated spin, leading into very high energy densities being formed. Because remember, the electromagnetic energy flux is really the speed of light c times the energy density the epsilon subnot the epsilon.

Sorry sometimes I drift into my my English. So the epsilon zero times the electric field square. So see times epscellent zero times the electric field square. That is your s your the magnitude of your pointing back. Let's call it. That's the electromagnetic flux. And that electromagnetic energy flux. If it's on the order of ten to the thirty three what's for me the square which really corresponds to a energy density, and the or of ten to the twenty

five chools for me the tube. Then we can break the Shingle limit. If we can achieve anything past that those particular values. We can actually put it this way, vacuum DK complete vacuum K interesting. So the shing The limit is really the achievement that, all of a sudden you the very quantum fabric of space time it is unraveled, it breaks apart, it tears apart, and you can see it by the formation of particle anti particle pairs.

This quite a bit now ration give yeah, I'm sorry. I promise this is the only time all interrupt because it's important to see the the That's why I call it the resurgence of the pace effect. Another way to see what the price effect is all about is to say it's really the generation of extremely high energy densities that are obtained by the accelerated vibration and or accelerated spend of a non equilibrium plasma. Then means the plasma that's out of equilibrium. You

can think of that. They have a term for it called cold plasma cold and you know, non thermal plasma. And it really has to do the the electrons of this plasma. Uh. They talked to the plasma density very high. I cannot go into numbers, but anyway, okay, so what right? So these but uh, the the the number of these electrons do not observe something called Maxwell Boltzmann distribution. That's what a cold plasma is all about, an out of equilibrium or non equilibrium plasma. Once you drive that

far from equilibrium, every particular vibrational frequency. Yeah, you can X, you can induce extremely high energy densities. Yeah, if if you do this locally, think of it. You know, the thing popped into my mind sometimes you know, some crazy stuff. But anyway, think of it as a stake. You take the meat tenderizer, you know, the big hammer, and you keep on pummeling at the same spot over and over. What do you see? Eventually? A hole? Ye? All? Ain't that

interesting? So is that the vibrational acceleration there that you're kind of describing. What I'm describing is the unraveling, the ripping apart, the tearing apart locally of the space time fabric at a quantum level determined by this incredible amount of

energy density that is put at that particular point. The more energy you put in a particular point, the more that in that locality space time will break apart, will tear apart, And it's possible that a hole, a hole will develop like a black hole, almost if we truly understand what a black hole is. But you see, I just like Frank Worldship. See Frank

wild Chip also believes in the materiality of the vacuum. In other words, we we're dealing I'm not quite sure if it's a crystal lattice when I talk about time crystals here, even though that's another thing that Professor Wilcheck is greatly known for. But we're talking about almost like a the at a quantum level. You can think of space time as being a material. It could be a super fluid, but it also has almost a space time geometric structure to

it. And that's what my super Forwar speaks to mine. It's quite possible others have come up with these ideas before, but the equation one in that super Force paper, and please post the super Force paper and also the AI double A paper and also the I tripolitps paper to your life stream and send it to everyone. You know, those three papers best represent my work. I believe in the in the number three like a great man that that once

lived. And I shall not mention because I mentioned him before and many and he trust me. This Nicola Tesla will go down in history as one of the greatest we've ever had. And and and the way he was treated abysmo, absolutely abysmo. That dude, JP Morgan, watch out, watch out if you know what I mean anyway, Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I think that interesting enough. So I think for people who are in the chat. You know what you just said about the papers. I posted them

on my Twitter before. I'll throw them in the description later on as well. But share those papers, sal here is telling you guys that you know, share far and wide. Those are very important. Now with respect to some of the what you're talking about around the pious effect, you know, I think that what I saw one of your past interviews too, is that using vibrations as opposed to spin is potentially more beneficial. Can you explain that

a little bit, yes, sir, you can. For example, the we we tried an experiment called the high energy Electromagnetic field generator to see whether we can get the magnitudes of the pointing dector, namely the electromagnetic energy fluxus very high up based on accelerated spin of an electrically charged object. Unfortunately, we could not get an electric charge more than ten to the minus eight culms. You put that in that sigma square term, which is a surface charge

density squared, and you'll see it's quite at the turn. We're talking about ten to the minus sixteen going against you. And even though we try to make the test section very small to it still however, for anyone that's out there and wants to see further what the high energy electro Magnetfield General Experiment brought. I encouraged them for a fire and actually get the unclassified report. There

were two anomalies. There were two anomalies that were observed. As a matter of fact, some very highly placed people from the Technical Committee of the Senate Arm Services Committee came two navy packs to interrogate, how should I say, the members of the Invention Evaluation Board on why they passed these five pattern applications because a lot of people said that, if anything, these should have been classified. So there was a whole team that was sent from the Senate Arm

Service Committee to investigate. I'm pretty sure that certain individuals I shall not name names, but they have said, oh, this was a scam. This was a total h misappropriation of funds, even though we're talking about only what point five million for like I don't know, like fifty people of a period of three years. Please, I mean through the math and you'll see what

I'm talking about compared to some of the stuff that's going on. And by the anyway, I shall I shall not make it too dark now, So the whole idea being is there's a report out there, it's unclassified and it talks about two and so even with a charge like ten to the minus eight coulans instead of the one Kulamb needed to get the kind of energy densities we we're truly looking for to observe certain phenomena that I can underscuss those are anyway.

Yeah, even with that, two anomalies were reported and they actually in the report, So that's interesting. Yeah, I'm mental observations. We're not talking about theory here. We talk about experimental observations. That's my next question too, related to as accelerated vibration, like what's the delivery mechanism? Can a laser do that? Or can you speak to that? Or is that sure? Sure? I just speak with it, but only in the general.

Yeah, just the point, just the point that it is very interesting that the twenty twenty three Physics Nobel Prize went for what electron dynamics induced by ATO second lasers? Yeah, into the minus eighteen second lasers. Very interesting. We're not talking about fental second, we're talking about ato second. There's a reason, so let me say, let me just leave it there.

Interesting. Yeah, are you familiar with meta materials, sir, probably I have some familiarity with that, Yes, sir, so I I would rather not discuss that portion. It has something to do with certain things. So yeah, that's fine, So let's go on to the next one. Then, in terms of your patents, and this might be a question, I don't know if you can answer or not, but do you think that these

patents are operable today? Yes, sir anology. See a lot of people have questioned on that, and I said, how did the uspeak your publishers they were not properly enabled, because you know they are. All the ingredients are there, but you have you have to know what you're doing. Number one. Number two, it is important to understand the nature of the materials, the piece of electrics, exactly how they operate. For example, what

is the main difference between strontium and titan a barying titan Aight? What exactly is something called the most power effect? Anyway, I mentioned it actually in a publication of Mind, one of the few papers I was able to actually publish in a journal, but only because it was in the beginning of the journal. And I think my opinion is is that the chief editor needed papers for anything, and he was taken aback by by the the what's what's the

best the ambition of the idea. Let's let's put it was actually the High Energy Electromagnetic Field Generator. That paper that I published, I think it was

the International Journal Journal of Space Science and Engineering. And trust me, I tried to publish the super Force paper the same journal, thinking, you know, I published the Conditional Possibility of Spacecraft of Space Ambitional Possibility of spacecraft propulsion at superluminal speeds, and that high Energy electromagnet Field Generator in the same volume. I think it was volume three of I think I think it was Issue

Anyway, it was. They were both published in the same volume. One of them is a technical note, the other as a full fledged paper, a technical paper. I try to publish the super FORSE paper in the same journal. They would not. It's as if my name is on some sort of a blacklist. You know, they mean, oh, Salva, tope, no, no, no, just I'm talking about sending papers and having rejections within a matter of twelve to fifteen hours. Wow, that's interesting what

I'm saying. I don't know. Have you ever gotten the my results? Are changing quickly. If I google you right now, is that going to happen? It's a bit of a badge of honor, you know, I between you and I. I have some friends back in New York City that, how should I say? They watch for my statistics. One of them said, one time I googled your name because he watched. He actually has

to go charge of it. He said that at one point in time, when you google salvatopies, you got over three hundred million results, and all of a sudden it dropped to like seven million, and then it went up. He had no idea what was going on. He said, this is not possible. Well, what are we talking about here? I mean, you have numbers higher than Andrew Date. But oh, I hope I didn't

get anybody cancer from you. I don't think so it's not anyway. So I think I wanted to jump into the super force in your equation number one, which you wanted to talk about, because I read through your paper. I looked through all the patents as well, trying to do my best as a layment to understand them. And when I look at your super force, uh, you know, especially with equation number one, it basically says that if you look carefully at the mathematical structure of the plank force, you can

realize that this is the super force. It does not contain the h bar for you say this, namely the modified reduce plant concept. Therefore, it can relate to quantum phenomena exhibiting macroscopic classical behavior, namely a macroscopic quantum phenomenon. Now, when I look at that, I think, are we talking about a unification of quanta and macro? And is that how you would argue your equations? Here? Absolutely, sir, Equation one speaks to exactly what

you're talking about. And as a matter of fact, page two of that it's just a three page paper. I mean, anybody for goodness sake. Oh maybe that's why I got a fifteen hour rejection because it was extremely fast. But you know, just that equation one, yeah, is so powerful because I will tell you what it says. It actually says, it's the super force that is the energy gradient at both the plank scale and the energy gradient at the horizon scale, which is when to talk about observable universe.

How is that possible that the superforce can be the energy gradient at the very lowest scales, signifying the lowest of our realms, the quantum realm, and also the highest that we understand, the observable universe. Not only that,

I believe because of the way it's fashioned. For example, if one day we were to find out that our universe doesn't have an observable radius, say of like and the order of ten to the twenty ten to the twenty seven meters, it has something on the order of ten to the eighty meters or something of that nature, that equation would give you how much mass is in

that structure, which would think what that means. It means really we're living in some sort of a matrix like the space time geo metal structure that can be altered the constructor construct the construct of some sorts, which is I'm not going to talk to the simulation hypothesis because I think this is very real.

I believe when I pinch myself it really hurts. So so I'm Einstein said something far far, far more subtle and far more philosophical nature, and namely, he believes that the moon is still there even though he's not looking. That's a good argument. Yeah, And I think that we can the spiritual stuff we can dig into potentially, and then the follow up interview because I think that that we probably are on the same wavelength there in terms of our

beliefs on that. And but the only thing I would say is that from my own personal perspective, the more I dig into the science and dig around the science, especially on this, the more spiritual actually become. I thought it would be the opposite, but it turns out that no. I think that I have more of a spiritual understanding the more I dig into science, which is very interesting. And I want the equation one from now on to

be addressed at as the super Folis equation. You know, if it Mitchokaku can can say that he's you know, he has the God equation, then you know, I think my humorous level is far lower by saying it's mine. Okay, it was your the way to explain it. I think I've heard you say before. As well as the super force is acting on space time, geometric structure, all points in space and time as well. Absolutely it also speaks to quantum entanglement. Then every point in space and time is

connected because of the existence of the super force. Yes, it exists at ten to the minus thirty five meters, which is the flank length. But still it Oh, one more thing the super force equation speaks to, which is when I realized that, I said, whoa, whoa, whoa,

Oh my goodness, if you put in that equation. Okay, So the super force the equation for is C to the power of four divided by big G. So it basically says speed of light to the fourth power divided by big G. And if you put in if you realize there's such a thing, for example, okay, if it talks to an energy ingredient at every scale, because that's what equation one really says. If it goes from the very smallest to the very highest, maybe it goes for everything in between.

So I tried the mass of the proton. Guess what the super force says? Okay, I put in the mass. So in the super force being mc square divided by that characteristic length, I put in the mass of the proton, which which is like ten to the minus twenty seven kilograms. And guess what I get. I get a characteristic length, and your ordered what the Shuret Child radius for proton. So the proton is treated by the super force as a black hole. No wonder the proton takes so long to decay.

If ever, that is an amazing equation. The super force equation will one day be known by physics everywhere. I hope you know, and I do not mind if they do read arrive it they call it their own. But at least you know, somewhere in a footnote they say, you know, some crack pad called Paise thought of this tool. You know, we're

not going to tell you. I know that you're sensitive as well about what people call you, and I think that that's part of the vindication that I want to go through with you as well, is that I tell you, sir, I've been. I've been. I mean, we talk about blood, tears, sweat, and misery of the mind and the soul of this. Because the moment they called my work, and I understand, maybe I understand, I'm not quite sure exactly why the drive wars on't called my papers,

the UFO patents, the UFO Mayvy patterns. The moment again, it became a symbol of ridicule, and mainstream physicists would not even look at that because again symbol of derision. And I understand why they changed the terminology to UAP, but you shouldn't because we're talking about the history of so many people that were involved in the subject matter, and for them and them alone, we should leave that term. As is my opinion that you and UFO should

be unacknowledged. I agree with you in the UFO thing as well. And I also don't want to link your work to UFO because it's really just science. It's not necessarily related to UFOs, although there's obviously a connection there because from what people see it can describe that as well. So you know, that's why when we look at the description of my discussion with you, doesn't mention that at all. Because what we're digging into here is the science,

right We're digging into quanta and macro unification. We're going to dig into superconductivity here in a minute as well, and that's the stuff that I want to learn about. The stuff. It's not fiction, it's just science. So one quick question second about and I promise you not to interrupt again. Oh you're fine your show here, sir. No, No, you're the start. This is your first interview, so I should be a little more polite.

But this is my chance to say certain things and who knows, Maybe I get a word from command shut and I can and this may be my last who knows, who knows? Anything can happen the truth. But as Angle take one said, I will never suicide myself. Okay, Now, now the the the idea being on the second page of that paper, on the second page of that paper, or the super force paper. Take a good look at the way that I prove that this is the force of unification.

There's a remarkable formalism, very simple that the strong nuclear force divided by the electromagnetic force is one divided by the define structure constant. It's usually I'm your of one divided by one thirty seven, it's like point zero seven. But anyway, and it's very interesting that when you actually take the decimal of that one divided by one thirty seven and and do it in a calculator, and you see what I talk about. It's as if the numbers become a

wave. It's as if the numbers it's it's a vibration of So it's it's very strange. Just look at the way the numbers change and how it's trust one virus by one thirty seven, and you'll see what I'm talking about,

now, what's what's truly okay? What was? Yeah? So so, using that idea, I was able to show very simply that the strong nuclear force equals the gravitational force at the plank scale equals the superforce, so that the strongest of the forces that went off, the strong nuclear force when chapter is in the order of ten to the minus fifteen meters uh so one central media, and the gravitational force, which is the highest that we know off

hence the general relativity, the Einstein field equations and so forth. So those two scales are at the plank scale, those two forces are equal and equal to the superforce. The super force is a force of unification. And you can actually find on that same page, very simple, with some rudimentary math, something that I called in another paper conditional replacement technique, and one can google it and see what I'm talking about. The CRT. Some people called

it at one point cathode ray tube. I just don't anyway, the conditional replacement technique, if taken simple in that leaning equation, you can actually show that in both the rock and the Shorten equations, the super force exists because it's an energy gradient at the plant scale. So it's so simple. This is why I love it, because I like simple mathematics that points to great

physics. That idea of coupling the two amazes. I understand that a lot of people are fascinated by R equally pr and ads equal CFT and so forth, and we can discuss this at one point in time. But I'm sorry one mother Senna. We live in a desiter vacuum. As Eric Blinda once pointed out, I'm pretty sure Juan will be very mad at me at this point in time. But anyway, Lenny Suskin too, But I have great respect by the way Lenny Suskin started out his staying as a plumber in Brooklyn.

Speaking of Joe the Plumber, Oh, I would love to have him on the committee as well. He's one of these visual mathematicians. He believes in geometries. That's a very interesting mind, the way his mind works, Lenny's and he's like at a certain age, and yet I couldn't tell. I mean, the man is is a giant. It's a cerebral giant, you know. So a each advanceage doesn't mean a thing, just like pedigree

doesn't mean a thing. Why shouldn't the Joe the Plumber be able to even publish in Archai, because most likely if you can publish in Archai, maybe your paper will be seen in Science, Nature, Physical Review. Letters would be nice, But anyway, that's a dream, all right. So I just for the viewers, you know, when we talk about unifying quantum and macro, I think I saw a question that was kind of helps for them to understand. Do you believe that faster and light communication is possible based on

your equations that we talked about the super force? We have to be careful to understand the nature of the medium within the same medium. So in other words, I believe a medium speaks to a given light speed, most likely having to do the index of refraction of that particular medium and also coupled with the speed of light in free space. There's a very simple formula that you

can see that's a ratio. But anyway, so in other words, if we able to modify the medium, it is quite possible that so cold faster than the speed of life is peaceable, but within that given medium. No, Einstein was correct. It is a quote on quote physical area, but only only presented by the nature of the medium, that medium can be tenderized. You can tenderize that to the point a wholest form if you put enough energy density at that particular point in space and time. Huh. Cool,

So that I appreciate that answer. I think that helps out with the viewers quite a bit. And I think the next thing we want to jump into is superconductivity. So can you define superconductivity for the audience. And then in addition to that, you talk about high energy densities, can room temperature superconductors achieve those densities? And how so? Okay, that second one I would rather than not discuss for reasons that I've said before. It the first one.

It's in the theoretical realm. Oh, speaking of which I would love I believe Leon Cooper is still alive, and Stephanie Alexander knows him. I would love him on that committee too. And we're talking about the BCS theory of super conductivity. We're talking about one of the I should not use the term gods to describe men, especially since Hubris may be greatly involved. So, but he is one of the giants of super conductivity, and I believe

he's still alike. And also Brian Josephson SQUI super conducting quantum interference devices. Oh my goodness, the stuff that we can do that. But anyway, so that your name are really smart. So both Brian Joseph and Lean Cooper are more than welcome on that committee. I would love to hear. Oh my goodness, they're such giants. But cover meat, cover meat has to be there. I mean, this is a man. This is the father of true semi my opinion of semiconductor technology. But not only that he has

such ideas, for example, even in gravitation. But because yes, the pedigree is an electrical engineer, even as a professor at call Tech, that man is not being heard properly by the community that supposedly is not part of science. Should not have limits, creat sir, So what's your definition of superconductivity for the audience? Superconductivity? Well, I output an electrically charged super fluid could be a superconductor. So the idea being that it's possible that we

can actually slow photons in a superconductor. That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah? Very interesting. It talks to the ability of medium. Now, a superconduct itself is really basically zero resistance as the electron flow goes through a certain me say, a wire that's called a wire for lack of a better term, even though the way electricity actually moves along the wire rather than through it is very questionable. But anyway, I should not go there because I'm already

called the crack. But I don't need so. Even though there was a very interesting podcast, and I'm very fassium as to that illusion that. Okay, I'm diverging, I'm taking so many so the whole okay. And there's one more thing that defines a superconductor. That's the miceners effect. That's the ability of the of the superconductor to actually, I believe it actually forms a magnetic field of itself, of its own, some sort of eddy currents that

actually form on the superconductor, and something called the London penetration depth. See a magnetic field will actually penetrate the superconductor. Interesting it see that's the beauty of it. It acts sally goes to the London penetration that but what it does it forms edit current which talked to a magnetic field opposite that repels the magnetic field that's put upon the superconductor. So yeah, but there's a London

penetration that and some and you can. I actually I remember that I wrote a paper I think the room temperature the the AI double A side tech speaks. It was a presentation that was based on a paper that I wrote that I presented at a AI double A side tech twenty nineteen. And please make sure you post that because slides four to slide nine is extremely important, I even in one slide actually solve the vacuum catastrophe. You know the whole idea.

You know that we get one hundred and twenty orders of magnitude difference between the quantum realm and how how is that possible? Well, it speaks to the idea that maybe we're not dealing with playing lambs. He will do with some space cells of a different dimension and terror herts frequencies, saying that's some but anyway, yeah, that's as far as I go. I should not gotta say more than that. So well, I got more than that might broach even further all of a sudden, I tell you call me so the

next one that was related. I don't know if you can dig into this because I heard on that of Everything podcast too, you're mentioning that Bose Einstein content stants can allow for room temperature superconductive effects. Is that something you can elaborate on or is that also kind of pushing it too far? That's more, that's more the the okay, uh, to understand how the room temperatures

for conductor that I'm talking about, which is an active room. See, I believe that maybe one way to solve supercompuctivity at room temperature is not necessarily by material properties to actually find for example, LK ninety nine and so for you know, the whole idea of finding a specific material cop barium strengthium type. Now, maybe it has to do with a way that you can influence something that is already a superconductor at very low temperature, but make it a

super conductor at much higher temperature, so raising the critical temperature. And actually, uh, there's a great paper out there still on archive, and one can google it. Hopefully it's still on Hopefully they haven't taken it down. There's a lot of concerted effort to make my work look like pseudoscience, so so someone google it fast before it goes. It's written by doctor Victor Lacno u V I K T O R. Lacno or Victor with a C. I'm not sure, but l A K h n O lackno. And he's

from the Russian Academy form of the Russian Academy of Sciences. He uh. He wrote a paper called something the Road or the Way too High and room

temperature super conductivity something of their nature used to be on archive. But in reference ten, he actually speaks to the idea that the way that I do it, the way he believes that that my idea and the room temperature superconductor is possible, is that what I'm really doing is forming a Bose Einstein condensate and then actually moving the condensate because of a certain vibration within that feel Because and you can actually read his paper and see the last paragraph and he references

me. It's the only actually the only, I believe, the only paper out there, you know, in the academics quote unquote academic community that actually references that particular idea. And I think he's got he's got quite an he's got a point. Somebody read that carefully. It's a last page and he references my pattern in reference ten. I believe still remember that. Yeah, he actually wrote a book recently on high temperatures for conductivity as well. But

anyway, I digress. Sorry, so no, you're fine, because that's actually I think you just said the last thing. The next thing I was going to say, which is I heard you say that in a previous interview that extremely low temperatures can create the thosignes on contents, say, which can allow things to move as one, the electrons potentially if I'm saying that correctly, and that they might even a microscopic quantum coherence, the idea that it's

possible under certain conditions. For example, what's a superconductor. Superconductor is really, in the words of Phil Anderson, the idea of emergence. Now, phil Anderson Nobel Prize, was a great mind. He god, I believe he is. He's deceased, but he at one point he was talking. I forget exactly how he tackled that problem. Anyway, I digress. Look into the work of phil Anderson and his idea of emergence and how he links

it to something called macroscopic quantum coherence. How how how a physical object of classical size can behave as a quantum entity under certain conditions In macroscopic quantum decoherence, as opposed to decoherence. Exactly decoherent. That that is the some people think, for example, the gravitational field could be a decoherence method by which something that should reset or should have a quantum mechanical Actually it was Roger Penrose

to mention that. But anyway, the whole idea is decoherence. Uh it it's it's one. As a matter of fact, look into slides four to nine. It's in there. Look into slides for four to nine in in my AI double A Side Tech twenty nineteen presentation. It's in there described quantum coherence to a t. And as a matter of fact, if you have it up, read what I what I write in that particular slide, like, read the whole thing. It's it's uh. I still remember being in

that room. I actually got a standing ovation for that slide. There were absolutely I mean people, was I felt so good being able to to to talk to my peers and getting some feedback there was not so negative a nature reading. And actually, do you know who presented before me in that same room, Robert Zubrin. We actually met with the great guy too. But okay, you go ahead and read that please, Yeah, because I actually

I think I quoted this when I was posting these slides on Twitter. Because there were so many slides, I had to break them up into fours. And part of it was saying that this is a vacuum that has undergone macroscopic quantum coherence locally around the craft. As a result, the craft experiences suction into the conditioned vacuum. Another part of it says that this may be the very condition to achieve a state of macroscopic quantum coherence the idea. Idea being

that we never leave the system. Let the system achieve thermodynamic equilibrium by constantly delaying the onset of relaxation to the equilibrium. Hence, the production of maximum entropy is delayed. The system may violently react by generating anomalist emergent phenomena such as, but not limited to, inertial mass reduction, which we're going to talk about here in a minute. I think, and this speaks to what I call the preg Gene effect. This is the work of Ilia Pregogene.

You can say in a way that the Vice effect is the engineering of the Pregogene effect, what I call the Preggiene effect. His a Nobel Prize. I believe in nineteen seventy three. Wrong. I remember that his Nobel Prize lecture paper being written. I think December seventy three. But anyway, he also wrote a book called Order from Chaos very or Out of Chaos very interesting.

He was, I believe, chemistry, but Iliya Prigojin was an incredible mind, and he basically his idea was the ordering of what he called dissipated structures, that order that chaos can be ordered under certain conditions. The idea being you're dealing with a non linear medium, for example of plasma, you drive it far from equilibrium, hence acceleraery vibration or an accelerated spin, and then you have a constant electromagnetic energy going through it, like a flax of

some kind, and you're able to get these dissipated structures. I think he's the example or Bernard's something called Bernard cells. Bernard, I'm not it's French. I should know better since I took so many of them. I believe it's Bernard. The whole idea is, for example, on a thin plate, if you have a layer of oil very thin, and you hit the plate from underneath the metal plate, so you need conductivity there to make sure you know, if it's a dialector of this thing will never get hit.

So the whole idea is they form these in time, they form hexagonal cells and something that event that begins chaotic, the movement becomes orders. And he used that in his December ninety an incredible. I suggest everybody go and try to find the Nobel Prize lecture by Ilia Prigosin. I believe it was nineteen seventy three, something about time fluctuations structure. Anyway, very interesting paper. I think this may be similar, and let me know if it is or

not. But you mentioned driving the plasma from equilibrium that will be in the self organized and that the electrons will be going to move and lockstep in one giant matter wave as well. Yes, I actually use the phrase that another great used, volfkan Italy. I absolutely like love Profs the only one to reply kindly to my emails like he. You know, even though he would not support my paper and archives, he gave some very good reasons for it.

And I mean, I'm one hundred percent sure that if I would have kept nudging him and stuff, eventually he's that kind of person. I truly see people like that. People like that should get Nobel prizes, not people that ride others and make fun of them. Call them pranks and track pots. Please come on. I've had similar experiences with academia, and the ones I respect. I'm with you are the ones that people that are willing to

talk to anyone right not regardless of their pedigree. Is profess people that humble themselves, people that don't consider themselves to be soothsayers. So those are types of people the price for BC by the way, yes he showed it. I think by combination of something welled evaporated cooling and laser cooling, you can actually oo adams and lasers. Isn't that cool? That's really actually a lot of stuff you can do with lasers, especially with plasmas. But anyway,

I'm gonna I'm gonna press you on this next one. Then, So is it feasible to work with electrically charged solids? Then? I know we've talked all about a lot about plasmas, but what about solids in general? Any theories they're hypothetically speaking, it's possible on theer certain conditions, but you need electric charges on your of cool ambs, and it's not easy. You can

use pelatrons and something. All teletrons are a modern version of something called bandergraph generators, So you can actually get high charges on a particular metallic substrate. But it's it's it's not simple, and it's not easy to keep that charge from discharging to the medium. Sometimes you need high preciures as it's how should I say? It's complicated. So I prefer simple things, and I think the best way to do this is with plasmas. Now, now, I'm

not saying that plasmas are easy to subdue. As a matter of fact, they're a very interesting animals. I sometimes think plasmas have consciousness of their own, but I digress. Yeah, they have like almost like a double layer. You have to study what the hunts out Phane thought of plasma. It's very interesting. There's another great anthony perat. The whole idea is that our

universe is more than nineteen nine point nine nine percent plasma. Yeah, so okay, and hence the boussard ram jet the Holy But then, anyway, I'm digressing on so many levers. I'm sure that the people who are being quoted in reference will appreciate all of the shout outs that you've given them. So that's why I don't want to slow you down at all. So I mean, and next the next thing. It kind of feeds into what we were talking about your slides, which is and as much as you can speak

to it, how does inertial mass reduction work? And what does it mean for the capabilities of both technology and propulsion in general? Uh, it works the way that I expressed it in my public domain. What I can speak to even on an experimental level is, for example, the one thing, in my opinion, is most important, most important, is to create these holes in space. That's why when you when you show I you know, I wanted to make sure that the person that I had the interview with was

actually you look, this is my confessional. So I actually went to a podcast called The Confessionals, I think Merco Media or something really good, tremendous, really good dude too, that dude, but anyway, very very nice guy. Uh. And and by the way, you you come across a man, you come across really good in that podcast problem check it out.

When I saw when I saw what those lobs did, the local points, the locus of points that they formed, and the moment I actually actually slowed down and started because I actually saw one of them, actually a couple of went in front of the nose of the aircraft, and this thing was almost free four. So we're talked about very high speed. And I kept on thinking they're trying to form of locus, like almost like a spherical bubble around

the air craft. And then I thought more and more. I said, Oh my god, they're actually what these three orbs are doing, the depositing energy at a particular even though it goes with the spacecraft. Still, I think they're moving fast enough to have a locus locus of points that you can say it's like a spherical bubble that deposits more and more energy within that particular section of space time to create this breaking of the shwingle. And if you

do that, you create a hole in space time. And when I saw what I saw, I didn't anticipate. When I saw that thing, the hole it formed, and then I almost saw like a ring that formed around the hole. It was like a refraction of the of the superfluor of nature

of I said, oh my god, this is the perciffect. Yeah, And then I had to prove myself down, They would definite believe that most likely, you know, Ashton will have to go for absolute health to prove that this is not you know, Oh my goodness, Well we're going through it, sir, We're going slowing down. I wish you'd be absolute best luck in this because this is the best, the best experimental proof that the

quote unquote police effect is real. So we have to have a follow up then, for sure, where we take a look at the videos together and go through I think the audience would absolutely love that. For today though, I just want to stay focused on the science, just because you know, I think we want to indicate you and your science here and I think we've done a great job so far of explaining how it can be practical and real,

right as opposed to the detractors who want to dismiss it. Now, if you have this inertial mass reduction craft, uh, do you know what would that look like to the observer as they're watching that move and they produce a field or how does that work? There? Have you ever seen Star Wars? Oh yeah, I could see your shirt by the way, but yeah, the eggs wing. I pride myself all the way part of the resistance baby, you know, anyway, the rebel alliance. But I've always

been truly a rebel at heart. But is it gonna look like the hyperspace joke? Say that? Sorry anyway? No, no, no, I meant anyway, there's nothing wrong with being a slave. No, I'm kidding. But anyway, well, as long as our existence depends on others, we are all slaves. Whether we say so or not, it's a whole different thing. But anyway, let's call ourselves rebels while we're still yes, sir, absolutely, Okay. Now do you remember how the I think they

were called what were they called the the the imperial cruisers? Yeah? Do you remember how all of a sudden they would just vanish as if a whole was formed into That's a exactly what happens with that trianglear structure that I represent in the past. That's that's how I envisioned it, and that's why when I saw what I saw in that video, I said, oh my god, but it's very interesting. Uh. And You're one hundred percent right there have to be a ton of and I'm one hundred percent sure these were some

sort of collision avoiding software there. All I remember is that like inside the orb because you also showed the thermographs there was some sort of a propulsion plan, some sort of a power plan because it was a different there was something going on in the middle of that or but anyway, yeah, I digress, sorry about that would happened. Yeah, so okay, so it would

look potentially like the hyperspace jump. I think that's really cool. Yes, you actually just answer one of my other questions was coming up, which was, you know, do you think that these crafts could be there would have to be somebody inside them or could they be remote controlled? You know, I think that's an interesting question, right. You know my opinion, both can make this. I think you can make it into an interstellar travel. I think I think you can do both. But I think it's far easier

to do the first of all the laws of human life. Nobody wants to deal with it. Goodness gracious, so so much sometimes, so much better to have these autonomous artificial intelligent agents. Again, this means if if it's true what we saw, that means that AI is not a new thing at all. But anyway, ten years ago, I aggress, I digress way too much. Oh, I have another theory on something the triarchy of sentience.

Eventually with talk about it. It's very interesting. Artificial intelligence, for example, in my opinion, you can test whether something has become an artificial general intelligence by basically seeing if it can generate given say, textbook data. So we're not talking about stuff that just pulled from the Internet, but the stuff that's pull from physics manuals, something that's been experimentally proven, So using

textbook data. Given a certain computational power level, I believe as long as the AI, the AI agent can generate an original concept, it becomes HI super intelligence is not very far off. So I anyway, I'm not I'm digressing on so many levels. But another thing, for example, the super force speaks to super density, and eventually our talk on that too, something called so super force super bang because of the super density and super intelligence.

Again, I call it the triarchy of creation. Ah. You know, after all, I'm a crack bat, right, So since my Hubres level has been you know, inflated to the max, well why not break the shoeing a little bit? Why not just change the whole world? Because that's what I do here, That's what I think we're looking at. If you can prove if you can prove that that video is for Ashton, that is

a Nobel Prize. Brother. If I, if I was the Stop Home community, I freaking immediately give you a Nobel Price in imagery or something or I don't know, like creative thinking, or I'll just take a Pultzer. You know, I don't need a Nobel Prize. But yeah, that's only you know, like you, I also have to say at this point that I would never hurt myself and yeah to do anything like that either. Just

want to make sure that that's not on the record here just case. Yes, neither Ashton or I would ever suicide ourselves, thank you, never, never any circumstances. So also I just want to dig into a little bit kind of what you just mentioned, which kind of takes into the stuff we were talking about. Is in your patents you talk about non linear medium using a plasma resonating inside a cavity related to microwaves, and then you also say

that you can convert high frequency UH electromagnetic waves into gravitational waves. Can you speak to that at all? That has to do with another paper I put out, and I think the Society of Automotive engineers, remind me to send you that paper. I also have I think the it's like starts to zero four zero that. But anyway, it was published in the It's It's It's a paper that was needed to to get the patent. That was incredible though

that that office action was a first. I mean they actually approved it as a first high high frequency gravitation wight generator. It could be because prior to this there were shown to be I mean, we'll talk about the genius of Kip Torn here, you know, and and very bearish and ligo for goodness sake, I mean, you know, the great experimental and theoretical Kip Torn

of course, just like Penrose got it for black holes. But anyway, and and and by the way, Sir Roger Penrose or you should be called Lord in my opinion, so Lord Penrose, if you're ever watching this, there are no such thing as spacetime singularities. I'm sorry, I disagree with you. We can have an argument on it. I think uh Abby Ashtrakar is correct, as in, there's a quantum bounce, so in other words, it never goes to zero. It goes to something on your of the

plant density, which talks to the super density. But anyway, that's a whole different ball game. We'll talk about the super density one day because it talks to the super bang, not the Big bang, the super all right, all right, Yeah, So I've got a few more questions that are

kind of similar to stuff we talked about. I don't know if some of it's going back, you know, And I think I've heard something on your Theory of Everything podcast where you talked about there being a thin insulator regarding your inertial mass reduction craft. Does this actually have to be a physical element or can this be something that can be produced by a field of some sort as well? What are your thoughts on that. It's a very good question,

sir. I'll leave it. I love it. That's why I love when I get that answer, honestly, because the same reason why I send in freedom of information requests, like I don't care what the answer is, because no matter what the answer is, I glean information off of it as an investigator. Now, I guess the next part too, is kind of related to what we're just talking about with uh, you know, not to go into the videos that we were talking about, but the effect that what we

see there in the videos is you mentioned. I think with the pairing up of electrons causing potentially a suction effect or potentially creating a void, that me create the suction effect in the vacuum. So it's exactly what you see. It's almost like a black hole. Yeah, I guess that's my question. See, oh my goodness, does it matter like how you define it. I have a feeling between you and I, I have a feeling that every black hole, for every black hole, there's a white hole, so it's

kind of like a warm hole kind of. So you have the ability to actually transport from one point to another, so for example, from going from point A to point C without actually going for point B. Yeah, I think I don't really understand what the quantum vacuum is all about. And I have a feeling there there's so much more to physics that I think we're still in our infancy. We think we almost know it all. I think physics it's almost I would say, three maybe four months old. It's a long

time till this it becomes an adult. Basically. I think JFK mentions that too, is that the greater our knowledge increases, the greater our ignorance unfolds, and I look back at that and I think that we think we're so advanced, but we are still potentially cavemen compared to where we could possibly be, is my view. And it's funny you bring up the black hole white

hole situation. That's always something I've wondered about too, because what we see in physics is symmetry a lot, right, the must have an entrance, why not an exit? Interesting? Yeah? And so when you're generating this void in the space of time continuum, which I believe you argue with these certain energy densities getting to that, would this potentially energize particles outside of the void? Do you think or any thoughts of theories on what might happen there?

And do you think it would at least look like a black hole? I mean, I could speculate. I can give you my speculation. Yeah, please, I think it would be a whole local phenomena. I have a fling almost nothing maybe something that uh, I'm not sure whether for example, the clouds, because you mentioned their clouds, like where those clouds in

any way? Could you see the move in any way? And I'm I have a feeling that the effect would be highly local and it's as if a portal is open within a fabric of some sorts, but somehow this fabric has the ability to recongeal almost spontaneously. Weird again. The whole idea is that once you remove this energy density, this thing just comes back. And that's why super intelligence. I truly believe what we're dealing with the energy the universe

is a sentience. It's a sentient being. And and I told you we better be careful what we do with our planet because you know what antibodies are. Yeah, they fight back right against anything that it doesn't unwanted things,

right. Yeah, Well that that makes me think about some other theories that I wouldn't mind talking with you on another podcast as well, which is into more of the you know, what are the implications of you know, this advanced technology, where it came from, and what it would mean for you know, lots of other philosophical approaches, but we can save that for another time. That's another thing. Physics and philosophy must be britt again. We

must marry these two. The divorce that when between physics and philosophy should have never been allowed. I believe physics has so much to gain from remarrying philosophy, and I think Colo Rebelli others like him, Lee Smolen, oh man, that's a physics. I would love him in the committee, both of

them. But I think Lie Smolan is taking a Canadian citizenship, and you know, there's this so in other words, the people that would be in this committee would have to be United States citizens due to certain things I would say, you know, and I'm pretty sure the committee would be Unfortunately, I would love to have a televised but I have a feeling, you know, my better is my superiors. When you know, I would agree maybe to a skiff conference rather than anyway. Yeah, I'm not gonna go there.

Yeah, I'm glad I don't have any NDAs not to worry about those types of things. But I understand the quickly situation that you might be inserts. So again, I just appreciate that you're you able to talk freely about this type of stuff. And yeah, you know, it's just that I was super furious when I saw the changes they did to the Wikipedia page. I mean, for goodness, a pseudo science that's like, you know, vomiting in my face and then spitting on it too, you know, I

mean what else. Excuse my language, you know I grew up. This is not for children at a tapestry of obscenity second to none. Yeah, So I have only a couple of questions. I was thinking maybe we would open it up to some live chat questions if I see them out there.

So one last thing that I've been curious about, which is uh and it kind of goes into the U A P phenomenon, but it's definitely related to your scientific approach is do you think this craft or your craft that you have kind of patented, can go through solid matter or are there limitations to it? What are your thoughts on that? Because I know that they talk about multi trand like different being able to go through different mediums, right, water,

air space, what about solid mass? Right? Let me just say there are no impossible, just conditional possibilities. Under certain conditions, everything and anything is possible a trick and this is where it all comes is how to engineer those conditions. So in a way I've answered your question. In a way I haven't, But that's I think that you know, one of my favorite characters and and and and and shows, it wasn't It wasn't the American version of House of Cards. It was a British version. Uh, his

name was Francis Urkert. If you it's pretty interesting how the initials goes, and just to say you may possibly say so, I could not possibly come and I don't know, but the thing stuck in my mind. I watched the American version until the last. Unfortunately I don't mention the name or you'll get Yeah, I don't want to get us removed here. It's a total loss though, because oh my god, it was great until then, remember

the usual suspects. What I mean, who anyway, great movie. So one thing I want to ask or to say as well, is just kind of a general statement I had before we june into questions, is that you know, if your daughter's watching, I want her to know that you are a great man. And all the anyone who says negative stuff about you, they can come talk to me, because that's nonsense. You know, just for you. Your dad is an amazing person. He's going to be a

historic figure potentially, potentially even in the history books. So ignore all the nonsense that the haters would say. They don't mean anything, they don't even matter, honestly, And that's the way you deal with them is you don't let it get to you. So that's what I wanted to say to her. If she's watching. God bless you, sir, God bless you for that. Thank you very much for saying this. Yeah, she she she

tries. She she tried so hard. One time I found a crying and she was reading and I said, please, oh my God, read it of all things. I mean, you don't read that stuff, you know. But anyway, yeah, she is. She's gonna be twelve soon, enow. But still, you know, she she's a sensitive kid. I wish she took it more from her mother, but yeah, you know, she she took it from me unfortunately. So yeah, she's a great kid. Thank you for that. God bless you. If you have any children,

same goes, do you appreciate it? Appreciate it? I don't appreciate that. Anyway, you were able to prove this, you will definitely get a prize. And again, let us let us reiterate neither Ashton, Forbes nor Sell but would ever suicide ourselves. Thank you and yeah for me. It's about the same name as my podcast Hard Truths, right, These are hard truths that are hard for people to accept, but they are true, and we still have to look, even though we don't want to accept it,

we have to look. I've got a couple of questions from the audience here, if you're ready to go, I don't. One of the first ones here is they want to ask you about the relationship between pious effect and exotic vacuum objects. Apparently they go by a number of different variety of names. Are you familiar with those? And yes, yes, that's a very interesting Uh, the whole idea of super capitation, the whole idea of sono luminescence, and what was the name of that gentleman, I remember reading some

papers on him. He was he was quite a quite an engineer. Shame on me for for now remembering the the ideos. If they can put that in the in the in the live stream, that'd be great, you know, so you can. But anyway, I'm not quite sure there's similarities. I think mine is a more general form of it. Mine is really the engineering of the prevosion effect. That's what it is. I think that's a best way to say it. It really deals with taking things far from equilibrium.

And and again, the whole idea of rapid acceleration transient. The whole idea that you don't that you don't have the time differential of your acceleration is non zero. That's very important. And don't forget equation seven. Please do not forget equation seven in the I Triple E TPS paper that the plasma compression fusion device. It speaks to something very interesting, an energy runway. That

that uh an exponential increase with time and accelerating vibrational frequency. Read, be very careful when you look at that equation that that that says a lot of things. So I hope I answered some of that. Yeah, I hope I. But definitely God what was his name now? Really drives me crazy. He quite a character, an incredible, incredible mind. He also went for help, uh hm for people to see. Shame on me for for forgetting that man's name. Really God, So there's the answer for that,

no problem. So somebody else another question which they wanted to ask about your thoughts on Er equals e p r uh what are your thoughts? Eteinrosen The Einstein Rosen bridge equals Einstein Podowski Rosen. The whole idea the quantumental and dangleman really speaks to this bridge between these two particles. But think what particles are the super FORWL says that the proton can act as a black hole. So if so, why not the electron. Maybe the electron is also a black

hole. Maybe the old particles act as black holes and as a as a matter of fact, maybe that's why we see these quote unquote particles not this integrating. For example, the proton, the decay time is on the order of ten to the thirty forces. I don't know exactly the unit of measure, but even seconds, it would be horrendously large. So but most likely the proton will not decay unless you do something. Again, I am not sure exactly how the super force speaks speaks to, for example, the Higgs

field. I think, for example, the Higgs field speaks of a different scale. I think the super force is so fundamental it exists at the plank scale. It actually derives everything. Put it this way, it is the force to rule them all, one force to rule them all, one force to find them, one force to bring them all. And in the darkness behind them. And it's interesting they're talk about dark energy. Maybe that's what the darkness reports to. But anyway, okay, that's interesting. Yeah,

some other stuff. Let's see what people have. Well, people want to first say that love you back. You know, so everybody's a big fan of you in the chat right now. They're great people. Thank you. Want to know what gives you hope for a better world. I think that's an interesting philosophical question. What gives you hope for better world? I I you know, I was I. I had to turn the TV off in the morning. I was, I was hoping for some better news. And

again, physics and politics should not make so I am totally apolitical. Consider me to I'm okay. But I will say this and listen carefully, and I will say this in both Romanian and Russian ascultabin and now I will say what I have to say. Credo in batrem omnipotent me. He'll see it. Dale eloho mele how long bismillah irahman Rahim Inshallah Mohammad Aizuli, different languages, different religions, yet signifying all is one, one is all. Unless

we come together, we shall fall apart. Unification. That's what all these languages speak to, the one truth. And you know what that truth is? Why can't we just come together? This is the only way we have a chance. A unification of civilization will give us the ability to go to the stars. Otherwise that chance will never come. Not the way, not the patron. Where are That's all I have to say. Awesome. I think they also figured out who the doctor was, doctor Ken Shoulders. I

think is it was on top of it for you? What a great Oh my god, remarkable, yes, remarkable mind. As a matter of fact, you know this whole idea of the negative energy that you know, the whole idea of the formation of the whole for which this thing is sucked. Yeah, that's that's the science of someone called I God. I forget he used to go by the name David Frowning, but I believe his name was Herman Herman David Frowning. I think David was his middle name. But David

Frowning, doctor Frowning, University of Adelaide, I believe Australia. Very interesting man. You have to look. I think in one of my papers I actually cite him and I I regarded him along with people like John Brandenburg, Uh, Paul Murad he he he recently passed from cancer. These were great, great people. These are great people. Some of them are still alive. But I doctor Throning, and and and mister Murad are not. Mister Brandenburg, thank goodness, still with us. He is a good man.

He should be listened to tremendously. Is GEM theory G E M. Gravito electro gravitic electromagnetic theory GEM G E M should be looked into. Absolutely fascinating. And he also talks to the pointing back that I mean he was able to actually show the the the mass of the Higgs particle because we're really talking to the Higgs field. There's not that while the whole idea of the God particle, please, they're not such his particles, the fluctuations in fields.

What exists is the But anyway, again digressing, Sorry, next question, No, I think we're drying up. But I have a question for you as well, which is another physicist I've been talking to has a theory called dilation theory, and I think that the way he would describe is the time as a fluid symmetry, and that you can essentially take gravity out of the

equation and there's another way to simplify the mathematics. I think similar to what you do achieves the same perhaps conclusion be those are out doing it a slightly different way, and the reason why I liked his theories in general. I'm just curiously your thoughts on them is that the idea is the less mass, the faster things, the faster time flows. The more mass, the slower time flows. It's pretty cool, right, time dilation time I wish I

understand. I think of time as some sort of energy. Feel I wish I understood more. For example, gravity responds to time. Why and again we'll talk about physical time here. We're not talking about the time as we understand measured by clocks, because remember, clocks themselves are made out of what atoms, and atoms respond to the quantum, vacuum and the manipulation they're off. So you have to be very careful by saying, oh, there's no

such thing as physical time. You know today is equal to more? Please, I don't think we really understand time what it really means. And since we don't understand time, how can you say you understand space time the unification of the same, right. Yeah, so we have to be careful to to That's why I'm saying we are only in the infancy of physics, maybe two three year month old compared to what other Ay, yes, definitely not an octogenarian. Yeah. So I want to go ahead and thank you here.

I'll let you go ahead and say you have last words. I want to let you kind of say whatever you want to say. It can be you know, anything that's coming. If you want to say one thing and one thing or I hope we have other interviews. I truly I respect you, sir. I respect you one hundred percent, and I honor your your your investigative approach, your research, and your ability not to give up.

That's what it's all about. No matter how much crap, how much fecal matter, they fraud you just every now and then deflect you know, yes, smells. What can you do? Keep on going, achieve that objective and trust me Ashton, if you're able to prove this. Wow. Yeah, and again stating this for the audience, neither Ashton Forbes nor whatever suicide ourselves. Thank you, ash I did have one last question too, which I answer because you work for Space Force. Now is that is that correct?

Uh? Or with them? Since I mean we have people, I sir, to me too much. I don't I can stand lies lies to me. You know, like this whole idea that lies laid of lies upon lies becoming accepted truths. For God's it, It's just it's just an a total and a them I like, like sacrilege to me. So I'm not gonna lie. No, I don't work for the Space Force right now. I work in the United States, Nate, got it, Okay, but

yeah, okay, yeah, no problem. Well in that case, then I yea, I would just pluse out and say, you know, this is the Hard Truth Podcast Number one. This is a big one. I mean, I respect you more than you respect me, as much as you may think that we each have our own frame of reference and perhaps it's a you know, balancing act, but you're one of my favorite people on the

planet. I've been talking with you offline as well, and you know, I want nothing more than to vindicate you and your science that you've put out there. And you know, I want you to stay strong as well, because I know that you have been getting attacked and hopefully this podcast went to some degree to you know, have people take you seriously, which they should absolutely. I really need a committee. I need a committee of highly credible,

highly credited scientist Nobel prize winners. We talk about Lee Smollen, we talk about Seth Lloyd, we talk about Brian Keating, We're talking about even Eric Weinstein. Yeah, I mean, why not. Even though he's not of the correct physics pedigree, his idea of geometric unity is quite interesting, even though some papers were written against it. Please, you know, everybody

should have some say. But again, give me a committee of highly credible people, and in one hour, I promise you, one hour, I can prove to them that I at least know what I'm talking about, at least that I'm correct and at least partially correct. And if not, sir, I promise never to do a podcast again, never to even like publish one more paper. Well, between you and I, Between you and I, it's not happening anyway. So it's like I'm getting you, I'm I'm

getting so many rejections. I just stopped, you know, Like now I just go for for pre prints because in my opinion, it's almost as good as you know, as long as the server survives and you're able to That's why I asked you. Please show that paper to everyone you know, just send it up, because it's like a domino effect. Even if the service gets shut down here, somebody will have that paper and somebody will say, damn, this crap pot wasn't such a crap pot after all. But anyway,

so do you want to plug anything as well? That aain somebody brought that up. Anything you wanna plug? You have a Twitter? Do you have any place where people? No, I'm totally off social media? Oh my goodness, are you kidding me? And that again that that thing of the I think between you and I, the having social media is conducive to that thing that we call it anyway, So yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely, So I just want to

say, please also go on Kurtgei Mongol's Theories of every People. Go to Tim Ventura interviews, also Project Unity, Jay Anderson, Oh incredible dude, And don't forget Jeremy Riz Alien Scientists a man, very interesting and with that group of people that those two dudes, Jerremiah the Engineer and Michael Peron. He did a thing with Tim Ventura and LK ninety nine. Watch whoa that he's a real material scientist. I was watching that. Yeah, okay closely,

So yeah, sale's going to be on the Alien podcast. Are the Alien the Scientist stream next week, so guys check that out for sure. I'm sure it'll be a great follow up to what we've been doing here as well. I just want to thank you one more last time. Style. I couldn't be more appreciative, and we can chat for a few minutes offline here, but thank you very much, Chat and everybody who's on here today,

everyone who's there on the podcast. This was the very first inaugural of the Hard Truths podcasts.