The Group Chat Episode 36: Formal/Informal

intern Zac, so I know he is. So he is able. Mind, I don't know about body will see how his skiing adventure. I can't wait. I did enjoy keeping up with him this weekend on social media with his extravaganza he went skiing. Those of you that did not here on the last group chat, he winsking in West Virginia. And we've got a beer opening up on the group chat. We can't even make it. It would MAT's over here opening up um an ice cold soda. Uh, it's not really a beer.

Because we're at the NFL Combine. We are working, we're in the convention center. I mean, this is always an interesting it's an interesting day, and I actually want to bring surprise we're going to bring Matt into this more than he thinks because Max and I have been to multiple comment. How many combines have you been to? A handful? I can tell you exactly how many, but this is probably enough to not count, or fifth combine something like that, so it's easy to count when you've never been before

and this is what you're going through. You've been to one one day? How is your first day? I loved it. I'm like a junkie for this kind of stuff though, So it was fun. I was watching shoulders with a bunch of people have watched for like ten years at least, so it's fun. He knew a lot of people. We were walking around trying to get interviews and I and I admit that I'm not very good at recognizing people. And he killed it. You knew exactly who they were.

Think anymore about the analyst here than who are the most star strapped by? Oh that's tough. Uh, they'll just gesture towards himself. I thought you weren't listening, Bill, He's got his headphones on, like he's not listening. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was cool to We talked to Ian Rappaport that was pretty cool. He's, you know, up there, Uh, probably one of the more cont actually not up there. He's actually pretty sure TV. Actually I hope he heard that

to beat up. It's the Tom Cruise effect was here. That was pretty cool. She's been around forever, so that's sure. She loves that as well. He's called Ian short and Susie. I didn't call him. Actually you tied me up for it though. No and no, like you're naming media types, no players. How many l s U people are here? Do you know? I think I saw how many l s U participants are there. I knew we had crazy that's that's that's a lot so wrong. Six. I think

I got confused with the ones that left earlier. All right, well, I'm glad you had a good first day. No, it's a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to today to what was your biggest like take away, like what what are you gonna go home and like call your parents or call your fiance and like this is this is what happened today. Well, it's just weird to be in a room and like, obviously I'm not in the same level as a lot of these people, but it's like

they're not looking at me as like a fan. It's like he might be at the bottom of the totem pole, but he's like the pole exactly. So that that's pretty cool to be in a professional setting with a lot of these people that I've looked up to for a long time. That's really cool. What do you remember about your first combine? Um? How tiring it is oddly, you know, like essentially I'm just going from podium to podium with

a recorder. But this convention center is huge, and by the end of the day you've walked so many steps that it's like, man for just like being in a convention center, it's oddly exhausting. Um, And it's just the days are long. I mean, like they today we cycled through quarterbacks, tight ends, wide receivers. They just come in half hour increments for a few hours and then we're waiting on that rule. So today was the busiest day

for us. And obviously now you know, we're still churning through the rule presser and getting out content from that. So yeah, I just remember like thinking, well, it's not going to be that involved, you know, It's not like there's not really any football happening. They're just talking. But it's their long days out here in Indy for sure. I don't really have a cool story from mine. I think I just, of course remember the shrim cocktail as

a might first. Yes, if you you've never been to Indianapolis and try the shrimp cocktail, we're going to get you some. Don't worry about it. We're clear, clear out your sinuses. Tomorrow we can we can get you something. But I don't remember much. I think, like you're saying, it's overwhelming, the day is because you don't really know this schedule on your first one, even coming years, you don't really know the schedule and you don't know exactly

what's going to happen. Coaches are walking in and out. A story that I do have, though it wasn't the first combine, but it was the combine after um the Colts hired Frank Raich during the process of looking at coaches. I think it was the year or maybe it was the year Kyle Shanahan was hired in what year do we remember? I don't think it was the same year

with san Franz. Was his first year there, Okay, so it was actually when we were going through our g M search and the reason when it was going through of when the coult Ryan Chris Ballard, we looked at some coaches too, because the writing was a little bit on the wall that Okay, he may keep a going over a year, but then after that he may bring in his own guy. So we're kind of looking, what are these coaching connections that maybe we can get some sound from guys like we were really going out on

a limb here. I had looked up Kyle Shanahan so much I thought I knew him, and so when he started walking through the podiums or the podium are I almost went up and said, hey, how like I didn't register that here he would have no idea who I would be. And thankfully I caught myself before I got up to go do that. Pretty embarrassing, but I think about that every time I see him. And I saw him today and I thought, gosh, thank god, you're just waiting for him one day to look at you and

be like, Caroline, what's up? Yeah, like you actually do know? Oh my god, I knew we were friends, but it is an overwhelming day. Um. And I will say that's one of the strange things about your The first combine for me too, was just like walking down a hallway and seeing like seven different head coaches in the span of a couple of minutes, just like everyone is here

in the league. And like, so he walked, you know, by Starbucks and there's like a GM you recognize and a couple of coaches and then here's you know, all the media types of Shifters. It's just like the entire NFL universe is in this one place. So especially the first time going through that, I just remember being kind of like I could just people watch for hours because

they're just all recognizable faces. And you do get to people watch for hours because you just sit in here essentially and you wait and you work, and you wait and you work and you wait. But it is, like we said, a very overwhelming week. But it's really cool to see all these prospects um be very polite, uh, be very open to any and all media opportunities that

they have. And this is one of the last times I always joke that they'll do this because once they get into the league, it becomes all about football and they just don't want to do a lot of these media things, which you have to understand that some part of it. Um, So it is fun to get to know these players first impression and all the media that they're going to be doing leading up to the draft. Let's go behind the curtain a little bit of what

happened today, um Max. Your biggest takeaways from listening to a lot of these players will get to the Rule press conference in a little bit if you do want to hear if you're just dying of like what did Rule saying you haven't heard yet? That is on Panthers dot com. You can listen to that, um and watch that. But what is your takeaway from today? You talk to a lot of players and the coaches. Yeah, I guess we'll start with the players first. I mean, the big

attraction today obviously was Joe Burrow. The This is the sheer size of the crowd that was forming around his podium just like fifteen minutes beforehand. Um. I mean, you know every year at the Combine, then the top quarterback prospect is the big attraction. So obviously this year it's Burrow,

and um, you know, it was funny. I think like he sat down and knew he was like, I gotta get comfortable because I'm gonna be here for a while answering some questions and whether it was about the comments that were maybe taking a context about Cincinnati and how he feels about being potentially the first round pick, any sort of leverage he feels he might have. I thought he did a really good job of just navigating the

whole thing. He has an undeniable swagger to him that is evident when he's playing football, and it's also evident when he's sitting at a podium. I mean, the guy carries himself with a certain just confidence. I wouldn't say it's arrogance, um, it doesn't come off that way. But it's clear he's very comfortable in his own skin. He's very prepared, um, and you can just tell why people follow him, you know, in a huddle and on a football teams. So I came away very impressed with the

way he handled himself. It was interesting to listen to tow Us speak the guy who went through such a gruesome injury at the last image we all had of him was in tears being carted off the field, the last thing anybody wants to see right before this part part of the process. So it was interesting to hear him talk about where he's at and the wide receivers, UM, this is anybody you talk to here will tell you it's the deepest wide receiver group we've seen. I mean,

all the way through round four. They're gonna be guys who are going to be impact, you know, contributors. UM. So there's just a lot of talent on display and here, and those guys just kind of talk about being a part of that class. I mean, it's it's it's kind of a cool to be a part of. But it's also man and another draft. A guy who might be a first late first round pick might not be taken until the second or third round just because of the

strength of the class. UM. So curious to see how those guys run, especially UM jump and do all those things. With the testing because especially at those skill positions, we know those are some freak athletes. But the interviews, I thought, especially with wide receivers, you're always gonna get guys who are confident with their speed. UM are not afraid to say it, you know, and Rugs out of Alabama said,

I'm the fastest guy here, no doubt about it. UM. I believe Caroline Yea, you asked that I would raise him I said, I'm not. Yeah, I know, I'm not doing jewels in my pro day and you can talk to my agents about that, which is it's been a long season and resting and recovering. Yes, Joe Burrow also said he's not gonna be doing drills, right. I thought it was interesting too. One of the things he said was L s U season was so long, it was essentially an NFL season. I mean they were playing into

the NFL playoffs. And I think a lot of those L s U guys are smartly deciding I'm gonna wait till pro day allow myself to kind of rest and recover, which which makes sense to me. Um So, yeah, it was, it was. It was a good day. Interviews. Quarterbacks always a lot of attention, and then with this wide receiver group, um, it's very very competitive and there's a lot of talent there. Well, that was really the first round of interviews for these

prospects because they have two more. But these are not with the medium members. These are behind closed words. They are the informal and the formal interviews that these prospects go through. And and this this process we don't know a ton about these processes of of what these interviews look like. But we do know that you know, therefore, and a lotted amount of time, only one team can can get with these players at one time. They only get you know, fifteen to twenty minutes. You have to

hit him with all these questions. But what kind of questions are asked, we don't really know. It is one of the um questions of the NFL. One thing to keep mysterious is what questions are actually asked in those interviews. We know, you know, the Wonder Lake is a part of this, but then you know, you also get into personal questions. We've we've heard like every once in a while somebody weird come to the podium of the combat and like to say, like what you'll get asked, They'll

get asked, what was the weirdest question you get? And you've we've heard some strange one weird, weird stuff. But there are the formal and the informal. So in spirit of that, we are going to play a little game. The segment for this podcast is going to be formal or informal. We're going to put out a quote that Matt Rule said at the podium today, taking the podium at the NFL combine today, his first time at a combine UM as an NFL head coach team. He talked

about that in his press conference today. Um talked about just kind of how he is approaching this, how the team is, but of course the big, big topic was about Cam Newton. This is really the first time that we've heard Matt Rule, uh give some detail on Cam Newton and his future and in anything like that. So we're going to give the formal statements is going to be from Matt Rule himself, and then we're gonna come behind with the informal and give you our takeaways UM

and maybe some insight into what was says. So for this first one, let's just go, of course, about Cam Newton, and this is what Matt Rule formally had to say about the quarterback. You know, from my perspective, I'm unbelievably excited to get to get a chance to work with Cam. Um. You know, you come in from the outside, you don't really you kind of know as as a fan, but just Um on a personal note, getting to know him. I mean, he is a diligent guy. He's working so hard, Um,

both in Atlanta and in Carolina to get himself healthy. UM, you know, you meet him, he's he's this massive man, impressive man, and UM, I really enjoyed getting to know him. I've enjoyed getting to you know, sit down in the cafeteria when he comes by, sitting down to my office. I think he's doing a great job. And for me, you know, the way he balances being a great father, the way he balances being a great you know, quarterback, and the way you know, the things he's done in

the community are are really really important. So I want to make sure I say that. And so I'm excited to get him healthy obviously. UM. You know that's the number one goal for us. Um, he's doing a great job of doing his part. We have to make sure that we're doing our part as we uh as we try to get him healthy for the seasons. So, but I know you guys have lots of questions. I'll listen to you guys. You know, UM, I probably won't say

about anybody that the hey, there'll be a starter. I'll try to be really you know, especially in my first year, try to be really um uh discipline about not promising things to certain guys. I'll just say that I really want him on the team, and I really want him to be healthy. And I know when when Cam's healthy, who he is and the type of player that he is, and so my focus. You know, you'll hear me say him a process or in a guy, and that just sounds so cliche. I know. I know my wife says,

like Matt, stop saying the process. But to me, it's just about, hey, am I are we doing all the things to get him healthy. When Cam's healthy, he's you know, one of the best of the best. So, um, I won't speculate maybe on the future of really any player on our team, you know, but um, I'd like to get him healthy. I'd like to get him out there. That's more than we've gotten in the past couple of months.

We've always heard about the health, and David Tepper has said that multiple times and of hearing that of it is his health, but I think that was the first time. Um, and there's there is more to this if you do want to hear on Panthers dot Com. But I mean, this was the first time that you know, we heard if Cam is healthy, we like him and we want him here. Yeah, I know, And I think and Matt

uses the phrase, there no doubt. You know, I think people do have some doubts on the outside, and that's why I lot of the questions about Camera being asked and his future is uncertain. Um, you know, with the injuries the past two seasons, I think there there is

there's some doubt out there. But I think what Matt's point there is that when healthy, and again that's as you mentioned, Caroline, something Dave Tepper said over and over, that's the big factor in this equation, right is he's got to be healthy to be out there on the field. When healthy, um, they feel like there is no doubt about his ability and what he can do. He's he's the quarterback of this team. That the hard part of this equation is just getting him healthy and keeping him healthy.

And that's that's that we're in a situation right now where he's not healthy at the moment. Matroo talks about the fact that he's not cleared right now. He's trending in the right direction, but this is a process that to Cam's credit, he's been working really hard to get himself there. It's just not there yet. And so this is a bit of a looking down the line, feeling like things are going in the right direction. And Matt you know, again mentioned to the media today he doesn't

need him healthy right now. He isn't healthy healthy in September, and it's a mat or of trying to get himself to that point where they could have Cam Newton, the former NFL n VB quarterback and all that comes with that. His ability level is clear um when he when, when he's he's healthy, this this team has its quarterback. I thought that this was just a bread crumb, like we you know, everyone out there wants these answers. We we want to know now, you know, is he what's his future,

what's going on? I thought this was a nice little bread crumb that goes back to what Matt rule has said since he took the job was and and he even jokes in his press conference. You know, I know, fans don't love to hear this. Even his wife Julie tells him stop using this word because you know the process. But this is just another Yes, this is another piece

of the process. And I thought what was interesting too, we went into a bit more detail of explaining what that process means in terms of Cam Newton and his health and in his future in Carolina. And he said, look, everyone's job right now is to make sure that Cam is healthy. He gave Cam props for doing his part of making sure he's a rehab, make sure he's in the building getting everything done that he needs to be

done or get done. And then he says, but it's also on the coaches to make sure that you know, they're putting him in a position of whether that's not putting too much pressure on him not going out and saying something of a timeline in the UM, you know, to the media and putting that kind of pressure on him, but also on the training staff, also on the owner, also on you know, everyone in the organization. The focus

is to get him healthy. I know that's not the answer that maybe everyone was looking for, but that's where we are. And I think this was more information than we have gotten UM and maybe just more clarity what we've gotten. I wouldn't say that anything that was said today was breaking news. I think it was just some clarity to what we've heard over these past couple of months, and I honestly think just looking at some of the reaction, I think the fans just kind of needed to hear this,

even if it wasn't an extremely declarative statement. It was a message of support for a quarterback who obviously has become really beloved by this fan base. And I think in this kind of period where everyone has all these questions and wants to know what's happening, just to hear from the head coach speak in this manner on this subject,

I think it was important for people to hear. And I think that's kind of what we're seeing in the reaction to it, is just people feeling like, Okay, now I just have a little bit better of an idea of what's happening with this team, with this quarterback, and I think that's that's been a good thing for this fan base on the whole, and just what I've seen in the reaction to it, I think people were happy just to see Matt address this head on and obviously

happy to to hear what he had to say about Cam. I mean, he said some really nice things about him. Clearly there they've gotten off on a on the struct on the right foot, just kind of communicating getting to know each other a little bit um, and that's I think that's what everybody was kind of hoping to hear. Yeah, alright, another thing about Cam. The next formal uh answer that we got from Matt Rule was when he was asked by the Athletic about Cam as a starter. Here was

his formal response. I don't think I'm gonna say, you know, any anybody's a starter yet. I think that really just in the first year, you know, I think it's really important for me as I go in there that I want to create a culture of competition, and I want to create a culture where, you know, nothing's promised anybody. I think, you know, when years two and three from it'll maybe it'll be a little bit different. But um,

I think that's really important for me. But that being said, I don't think that has anything to do with Cam. That just has to do overall the philosophy when it comes to Cam. Cam's a special player and so really the only thing that really matters right now is getting him healthy. Um. But I want to make sure I say, I'm excited to have him here, and I want him to be here. I want to I want to coach him. I just have to make sure that the coaching part

of it is to to make sure he's healthy. So I think this is a bit there's two things to this. So in our informal response here, I think there's two sides to this. The first one is what we were just reiterating that that's not where their focus is right now on if Cam is he starting as of February. He's not healthy, so you can't start him today. So I mean, I really think rules gonna He's going to

continue to say that until his health is cleared. But the fact that I also walked away from this was he's not kidding when he says that everyone has this clean slate you're gonna walk in. He even made a joke, um a little bit reference someone say it was a joke. It was a reference to the running backs that you know, even there's a competition there, you've Christian McCaffrey like, we

get it. We know that's your starter, and I think it every other position you're talking to analysts around here is it's there are question marks everywhere except we're running back. But then you can even make a case for the running back where some people are throwing around these wild speculations of trade, which Matt Roue also talked about of of everyone is you know they're they're taking questions and

then taking, so even that is a question mark. So I just took away from from this that Matt Roe's creating a competitive locker room, and so he's not going to on February for the next I believe Bill did the wonderful math force as one day days until the start of the season, he's not naming a starter. Yeah, to that point, the coaches I've been around don't like announcing a starter six days before a game or two days before a game, let alone two and one six months.

Let it's just not in their nature to be asked a question about who's your starter at X physician and them to willingly just give They just they're just not comfortable doing that. So this far out not at all surprised that that's not that's not really a corner Matt wanted to be backed into. But my own words here, if and this goes to the previous question that we just an answer that we just talked about, If Cam Newton is healthy, cam Newton is the starting quarterback, I

think that's just kind of where where this is. But being the head coach, all the cameras around you, again, what we know about football coaches, they're just now they're not very willing to say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's going to be your star. That this is not

something they tend to do. No, it's not. And that leads us to our final quotes, and for the formal this is where I think it's interesting to hear him talk about the I don't want to steal the quote, but just the edge that maybe this staff has going into.

There's places that you know, obviously, like any team this time year, that we have to build, you know, you know, as you know, I probably don't want to say too much about what we're going to do because it kind of gives One next thing about being a first time head coach is no one really knows what our defenses or offenses, and so I'd like to keep that as long as possible. So, you know, but I think we have a really good plan. Um you know, we want to as I said the first time, of the plans

that combine then free agen see them the draft. But there's there's good players, there's guys who are really you know, one thing I've been impressed with is the locker room and like the culture of the guys that are there. I really liked the guys that I've met them so far, so um, just making sure we bring another good guys around them. I'm going full biased here on this. Informal response to this, this was one of my favorite quotes because I saw this happen in Indianapolis for a couple

of years when Balor took over his GM. There is this you know, you have no idea what we're gonna do in the draft, so we're not gonna show anyone where, keep everything close to the best. But then you really see when you get a new coach, because it's true, you don't know the scheme right now. You don't even know who the starting quarterback is. You don't know who anyone really outside the running back who could be? You

know your your premier guy. You don't know anything. You don't know what O t A s are gonna look like, you don't know how many days are gonna be tackling in training camp. You just don't know anything. And I love that he leaned into that and was like, look, guys, I'm not telling Yeah, I'm just not going to tell you. And I just kind of I smirked when he did it because I thought, don't, like, don't because you have

this for one year. For one year, you have this Yeah, no, And I think, yeah, that's certainly something he feels is an advantage that he wants to continue to use. Is there's there's not as as the saying always goes, there's not a lot of tape on the Matt Rule Panthers,

there is none. So that's an advantage right now. Um, I think in those coaches offices at Bank America Stadium, they do have a planet they're putting in place, and I think they have an idea of what they're going to look like on defense and what Joe Brady is going to want to do on offense. It's not finalized yet, but that's what they're working on right now. But yeah, there's no reason for Matt to come out here today

and start divulging all of that to everybody. It would be interesting to hear, and we would all love to write about it and talk about it. But I totally, I totally get it and and look and in situations like this, I think every head coach is meeting with his communication staff and at the end of their podium session they hope to come away saying I didn't really say too much, did I You know like you're they're trying to get out of it without saying really anything.

Um And now, of course there's a game to play here, and you know you have to be you have to give something to your fans, and there are people who are looking for you know, you gotta give them some substance. But as a head coach, you want to walk away feeling like, oh, I didn't step in anything, I didn't give away too much. Especially this time of year, everyone is so high strung about what our plans are for the draft and what we're gonna do in free agency.

It's so secretive of this league is just so protective of that um that I think, you know, the sweat on Matt's forehead is maybe a little bit just like, oh I got I got out of there without having without getting pushed into something I didn't want to get pushed into. I think the Panther's biggest competitive advantage right now is the mystery of what the Carolina Panthers are going to be. It's what it's what is keeping everyone

asking questions. But I think for some coaches and gms when they come here, they have an agenda to either quiet something down or to you know we're not going to do this. The best thing that Matt Rule can do right now, and it is not fun to hear. It's just gonna make us all be very patient and pull our hair out is to be quiet and to just not divulge too much. You know. I just I think for this offseason it's going to be a bit yeah, frustrating. You know. I do love about this time of year though.

Is the smoke screen. It's when people they people say something, but it's a it's a diversion. It's trying to get your attention somewhere else. The owner of the Indianapolis College De Mercy just had a press conference on Tuesday, and I was a Tuesday, Today's Tuesday. On Sunday he had this I don't even on Sunday because on Sunday um and he said that in his press conference, was like, now we're gonna we're gonna throw throw some people off

with what we're doing. And it's one of those it's like you can't tell people you're gonna do it, and what's not you'll never know. You'll have some people, you know, watching a guy to pro day and go watch it. And that's a very real thing people you know, NFL types I think have said before like they're kind of proud of the moments where it's like, h see, we thought you all thought, you know, we sent people out to this pro day, or everyone thought we were so

interested in this guy went all along it was. It's kind of the fun of it, right. It is another thing I recently I heard about this combine. There's a lot of changes to this combine and just far from a protocol kind of how things are going to run. Like they moved the interview rooms from this hotel that has always been home to these interviews. It's now in Lucas Oil Stadium and suites of the stadium. Drills. New apparel for the guys, new era. It used to be

under armour. What do you what do you think of the new era apparel. It's it's very not flashy. The under armur was very flashy, bright colors. I liked that for the For this I think this is it adds to it. I don't mind it. So really the Pro Bowl is what bothered me. You're you're at the Pro Bowl. It is nothing but fun and these guys are in black and white practice. You know, I just thought that was weird. I think here it looks kind of sleek, and it's like here because this is a little bit

more business. But I didn't love the Pro Bowl. Yeah, I'm with you. The Pro Bowl should be fun. I mean there should be, but it does look clean. What about when they went to the neon in the Pro Bowl? Did you love it? Because no one wears that, and I think when you go black and white, then it's kind of like, well, is that Raiders or you know, I liked the neon. I'm like going going crazy. But this is an interesting piece about the interviews. I heard this.

I thought it was really interesting. So normally when they do these interviews, it's a free for all. So they teams have, you know, interns or equipment guys that are there runners and this is happening. Let's paint the picture every but this is what happens like in the evening hours, evening hours, so you know, this is not the team representatives getting ready to speak to these guys and each player prospect is just walking around this hotel and they're

popping into these informal interviews. The formal interviews are scheduled, the informals are not so there's just kind of like a bullpen and you can go grab who you want. In years past, they have been able to kind of grab guys in any order and there was no real system to it. I mean sometimes the player could say no, I'm supposed to go here, and they could be like, no, you're not, You're coming with us, and so there were some We've heard of some physical altercations about this. This

year is a little bit different. They are Bill is making fun of me in the middle of trying to work. It's not a professional setting that I thought I was walking into Bill. But this year they're actually putting a handler with these prospects and there's only one spot for teams to be waiting. I think it's going to cause more problems. I would love to like just be I would volunteer to be a handler, because these we should send you an undercover, So I would definitely go under

the radar as a female running these guys around. But I think it is pr assistance. Maybe we can ask Maria if she's we gotta find out more about this. I'm fascinating there. But these guys will be walking around and they'll have their handler, and then these runners will they still but they only get one runner. Now you could have you know, four or five, They get one runner and the runner will just have to stand there and wait. I'm looking at Matt just right now. You

just have to look at me. Okay, we want him next to get in that queue. And if the if the you know, handlers like no, we already have someone in the queue, then you just have to wait and follow this poor handler. Are they getting counseling afterwards? We can we can create. When I heard the change, I was like, wet, were you supposed to make this better? But then this is now it's just worse for the handler.

Maybe the prospect gets off, but well, the past interference reviews are supposed to make things easier, but that didn't work either. Sounds true, a good point. Hot takes I didn't say, and the past interference I said. None of those. I did say the third one. The other two I didn't say. Oh, the NFL combine it's still going here in Indianapolis is going to be going for the rest of the week. We're working closest shutting radio road down

and everyone's packing up around us work. He's just done with We are one of the last ones here on Radio ro wrapping up day humble brag. We just work harder than everybody else, everybody of everyone. Giants have packed up, the Jets alongside us have been gone for two been gone. Raiders no sign of them. I haven't even seen the Raiders today. It's because they look like the Prospects. They're in black and white. See, that's the problem with those

New Era the new Era look. I think I could get one with like pp O one podcast producer, just walk around maybe you know, would people take me more seriously or seriously? Yeah? I was wondering where is he going with this? Okay, got it podcast producer? And then I don't think we can make that happen. Receiver one, wide, receiver eight, whatever it is. But the NFL Combine is

going to be going all week long. We have some fun things, um for the group chat, but also just for Panthers properties all throughout the combine as we zero in on the NFL Draft. Is the only time of the year I will listen to anyone talk about a mock draft. Um. But I am counting down the days until we don't have to read those anymore, and we know who those Panthers are, but thank you so much for listening to this group chat episode. We will be back and guys, we still need to pray for Will,

so we hope he's okay on the slopes. We hope to hear from thinking about man well, fish you buddy. We'll talk to you all tomorrow