The Group Chat Episode 32: Niners or Chiefs?

was going to be very good. But I didn't even have to say that much. I didn't know what you were gonna say. We didn't talk about it. You just jumped into I thought you did a good job though. Yeah, it was pretty simple, better than I would have done that natural. That sounded good. Yeah. You know, I've I've been working on apps all day like I've been I've been knee deep in trying to create these apps. Max are you're a big apps guy, not appetizers. I mean,

I know you the advertisers too. That's that's what I was gonna say. Yes, Yes, you love a good app. Um you always get you always get an app before a good meal. I like to. Yeah, I like to, especially, you know, if you've got a group and you can share some apps. Yeah, that's true. We we did that this week. Get it going a little bit, Yeah, that's kind of my prefer so. I mean, obviously people have probably figured out by now Caroline they're not hearing her voice. Yeah, no,

where is she? Everyone knows where she at this point now. Yeah, I guess because you know why, because they're on their apps on Instagram and Twitter and they see there down there, and you know what app you should get. I think I know where this is going. The Lift app, where the group chat sponsored by Lift. Download the Pink Lift app and link your credit card and take your first ride. Today. I think they took a lift down to Miami. If I'm not mistaken, that's a big that's a big Actually, yes,

what would you actually guess? That? Fair would be? I've seen stories about lift rides that long. Let's say if you were a driver and somebody like it popped up in it was like someone here in Charlotte, North Carolina wants to drive down to Miami, Florida. No, like, would you take that? No? I mean that's a big chunk of change. How long does that drives? It? Like twelve hours with a stranger and then and then how are you getting back? I mean, yeah, yeah, I guess it

wouldn't really make much sense. No, but I think there have been stories about people taking crazy long that long but crazy. Yeah. Anyway, Yeah, Caroline's down in Miami. The two of us here are holding down the fort in the shoot studio back here in Charlotte. Uh. And I guess it's a pretty big football game going on this weekend. Yeah, I think I think there is. I do you have plans for it? I don't. I don't have huge plans. I'll probably to be pretty like casually just sit back

and watch the game. I don't know about you. Seem like a big Super Bowl party, Yeah, I've I've had some in the past. I think this year, I'm I'm laying low. You know, it's ironic because I'm actually excited to watch this. This do a lot for you. Yeah, I mean, this is gonna be a great game. I agree. Yeah, I agree. I don't necessarily think before the season started and well, actually I should say Mahomes and the Chiefs have always had a lot of sizzle just because he's

the Madden cover. He's like kind of becoming one of the young faces of the NFL. Now. Um, and this Niners team, I mean, they're they're super fun to watch too. I Mean I know that offensively they may not be looked at as explosive and as you know, just video game style offense as the Chiefs do. Um, but with the way they run the ball and the way that defense plays, like, the entire energy of that team has just been a ton of fun to watch throughout the

season unless you were a Panther fan. Of course, we all experienced the worst of it that day. Um, but that's just what this that team has been like. So I think this is gonna be an awesome matchup. I mean, there's been a lot of good Super Bowls over the years, and this has the potential to be one of those kind of classic at least on paper. And you'd hope so because you know, especially after you know, no touchdowns going to the fourth quarter last year, you would think

there might be a couple more this time. Yeah. Yeah, But I mean again, the with the way that's Niners defense is playing too, I think that's the that's the big thing Niners defense. Chief's offense. How's that wanting going to go down? I always like to do the opposite. Yeah, like I want to see Niner's offense, Chief's defense. Chiefs defense has struggled against the run. You know all of those run the great running backs from the Niners, and we can I think they can control the clock. Yeah,

you're right, and I think you know that. The two head coaches and you read Kyle Shanahan, young guy looking for his first, guy has been around forever, still looking for his first. There's a lot of choices to be made from a fan standpoint, I who, you want to win this game? And we might as well bring in the person who's down there in Miami to absolutely we get some some real and and Ma, can we get Caroline on the phone? Can she? Is she too busy or can she available? Could she call in here? I

think she's available. Let's get her on the horse, Carol, can you hear us? Yeah, yeah, I got It's so busy down here, just you know, so much going on. But yeah, I think I've got you. I've got you. We've got a few minutes to spare for us, thank goodness. Just a little bit. I mean that that's just insane down here, in the amount of interview request that I'm getting, you know, it's just it's insane. Yeah, So I'm glad

you guys caught me when you did. I'm sure the Panthers are just all the rage right now down there and everyone just wants to talk. Listen, guys, I'm not gonna lie. I've run into a lot of people and they're just like, why are you here? Yeah, you know they're not playing? Yeah, yeah, news to me. That's weird. I thought the whole team was here, but no, there's actually a couple of teams down here that are not actually playing in the game. But does the media cruise

down here? Of course, we're gonna be doing some stuff with David Tepper and Nicole later on this week, so that's kind of our big pool and draw to be here. But I've never been to the super Bowl, and this this is insane. I've always heard about the big media hooplon. Of course it's all that's on TV for a while, but I mean, this is this is next level with all the different networks that are set up and just

how crazy it is. But the big question, though, the big question, and you guys, you know I know you guys were kind of talking about earlier. It's this, this or that? Do you want? Do you want the chief you want the forty Niners? Do you want that quarterback? At this quarterback? Do you want? I mean, that's all we're here and when you walk around. So since you brought me on, I came prepared with a segment. You always come prepared. Thank you, Thank you. I think we

should do. We're gonna play a good game of this or that. Enough you just have to pick one. Okay, So I've got a couple of different scenarios. Let's just first go with a very obvious one, the one that we're hearing all the time. Do you want the Chiefs or the forty Niners? Who do you have in this game? Make your predictions. I will make you eat your words later. I guess that is the big question. Will who do you get? Niners? Niners? Huh? Yeah, I'm going Niners. Give

us your quick, like thirty second rationale. I'm going Niners because I think in games like this, offenses like the Chiefs sometimes just don't live up to everything that they've done in the past on paper. And yeah, I mean I I like I like defense, and controlling the clock and running the ball, and no one has done that better than Niners this year. I agree with you. I want the Chiefs to win. I think the Niners will win,

and for the reasons you just said. I trust the defense in this sort of moment more than I do the offense. Kansas City has started really slow. They've been flirting with it, and it's just like, man, is that going to catch up to the eventure. You've got to think eventually it will. Uh. This Niners team is just so sound everywhere. Um, I just don't see a real weakness that people might point to Garoppolo and say, if they're down a score late, he can can they really

count on him? But I think they can get a lead and maintain it with that defense and run game, and I think they win. I mean that being said, if Casey jumps out to a one nothing lead on the first three drives of the game, you know, I I don't know if San Francisco can catch up, Like I don't think they're not. They're not built to catch up. I would agree, But if they can control the ball and hold it, and can they do to the Chiefs what the Broncos did to the Panthers. I mean, that's

what we're all thinking. Interesting, Caroline, what about you there is Well, there is a certain saying about defense wins championship. But I'm actually with I'm with Max on this one. In my heart, I want Andy Reid in the Chiefs, but just the realist in me of how this game, how I think it's going to go. I'm going to forty Niners, so we think we like it? Proved me wrong, That's what I want, Like Chiefs proved me wrong. In my heart, I will be so happy and I will

eat my words of picking the forty Niners. But uh that I like it. I kind of like that we all went clean sleep. Maybe we've cursed the Niners and now that Yeah, and when the Chiefs win, we can't make fun of any of us because we all got it wrong. We're all in this together, all right. Let's do the next one here? Going into season, do you want the Carolina Panthers to have the Chief's offense or

the forty Niners defense? You can only pick one, Max, I think I'll take this off of what Matt Rule had to say, which was that the defense was the thing he wanted to address. First, and with that said, I will take the Niners defense. I think in his mind, the foundation for a successful team is going to start with the defense you can count on week after week. As they say, good defense travels. It's something that you

know regardless of of weather of the venue. You want to be able to know that you're going to be competitive on that side of the ball and consistent. More so, maybe then an offense where sometimes you might have to win a game low scoring, sometimes it might be a high scoring shootout. I think he wants this team's identity to start with with strong defensive football, and that's really what this Panthers franchise has always really sort of been

right at its core. UM. Not to say that it can't change, but I I do think that for the biggest step this team can take going into next year is getting this defense to improve from where it was towards the bottom in a lot of key areas. UM. To try to get some real incremental gains on that side of the ball, I think I think would help immensely. I tend to mostly agree with you, but I will take the Chiefs offense just for the sake of how

much fun that could be. Entertainment fact. I mean, you know, like there's there's something to be said for posting a ton of offensive highlights every game and just watching watching the way that they man handled teams in the playoffs this year with just you're not going to stop them, and they just scored five touchdowns in a row, and it's like, what like it? There's a there's an excitement in a demoralizing way that they just broke defenses down,

which I would love to see her. Yeah, absolutely, I can't argue with that. That's a good one. All right, let's go to the next one here. Do you want kettle or kelsey? Kittle? Kettle? Was gonna do you call the kettle? Well? Laughing, he's thet do we call it? Yeah? What is that calling? The way that George? We also have Caroline, you'd appreciate this week. We also have like three of those mini bags of Skittles right in front of us too, which literally, you know you can't spell

skittles without kittle. Um, don't really were the products right there? Max? Yeah, feel free to send us some sponsorship. Let me fake shot me out. But that is that is an amazing question, great question. Both. I mean, these tight ends are so fun to watch. They're both What I like about it is the tight end position is very much always been the way Greg Olsen has played it, which is kind

of like a no nonsense, I'm gonna already, I think already. Um, it's like the exact He's like the antithesis of what these guys do. Um. And obviously we love greg Olsen, but this like young edgy tight end uh kind of fat is is very entertaining. I mean Kittle with like the whole wrestling thing and how he just like runs through people, um, screaming the entire game. His mic up

segments are just hilarious. And Kelsey is super funny too, I mean in a sort of different way, maybe a little bit more like toned down, like cool guy way, but he's also like super fun to watch. He and Mahomes have this great dynamic. It's really hard to choose. I lean Kittle just because of like the little bit of like crazy, you know, like this is like a screw loose in there, and I think that just makes

him a little more fun to watch. I think Kelsey's too kind of bro for me, a little too BROI yeah, I think Kittle Kittles, he just doesn't care. And I really I like that about him. And I think, honestly, I think on the field on paper, I think Kittles maybe a little bit thing. I mean, he's a little bit better in dude. The way he blocks. I mean that's like Kelsey is a fantastic guy out in routes and I mean essentially one of the better receiving weapons

weapons lit alone tight ends um. But kittle Man the way he gets after it in the run game. It's like people usually look at tight ends and say, Okay, we can pick on this guy and they're not going to be able to hold up on the edge. Kittle it's the exact opposite. It's like he's going to clear the way for this run game, and I mean it literally makes him about his completed tight end. I think that there is right now, Well, we just kind of said bad things about both of them because I called

Kettle Kittle a cattle and Kettle a kittle. And then what Kelsey to Bro is that what is that what will by? That's what a little too broy for him? I mean that that works for some people. I don't know Kettle or Bro. That's what I should have that one, the one in the last one. It's about food. Max, You're a food I'm ready. So are you going to go barbecue or sushi? I've had some of the best sushi that I've ever had in San Francisco. So are

you going barbecue? I was wondering what you're going to choose as a San Francisco cuisine that is a good one. Great seafood out there. Um, I'm gonna go Kansas City Barbecue for that one. My experience in Kansas City is somewhat limited, but the barbecue seene out there is fantastic, and I just feel like it's more specialized. The barbecue in Kansas City is like a more their thing than sushi is San Francisco's thing. What do you think? Well,

I have had barbecue in San Francisco. In San Francisco, I'm sorry, sorry, barbecue and kents today I went went with with Dave Monroe. Actually was really good, but I a I liked the Carolina barbecue better, So I'm already I already am discriminating against Kansas City barbecue just because I think our barbecue is better. So I'm going with seafood because I think I think the San Francisco seafood just blew away the Atlantic Ocean seafood. It was incredible

the Atlantic. Sorry, I mean like coming from Charleston, that's saying a lot, but I think San Francisco was better. There's there's something I was gonna say. There's like I remember reading about this, like, Okay, I'm a big Paul Red guy, Paul read a huge Kansas City, huge chiefs, huge chiefe fans, royals, all that, and I remember reading about this like famous barbecue sandwich that's from Kansas City that Paul Rode is obsessed with, and I read up

on it and it looks incredible. It's like this onion ring barbecue, Like like here's the picture, Caroline unfortunately can't show you right now, but Will is getting a look at it. Um, you can just imagine how delicious it looks. Um. But when Paul Rudd tells me that there's something out there that I've got a taste, I'm I'm in, that's like say no more so. Um. That's that's partially why I give the edge Kansas City too, because I I

really trust Paul Redd in his his taste. Yeah. How good a friends that you guys, are he's never led you wrong? Exactly? How likable as Paula Red. Come on, nobody dislikes Paul It's it's Max Sinson and Charlotte Wilder right now that are just like going crazy over Paul Redd. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, guys, I am gonna have to go and cut this. I know, probably a little bit short, but you guys can continue the group chat. But it's so busy down here. There's interviews I've been, like I said,

I've been putting on. So I'm going to go and knock out some of those interviews and I'll just talk to you guys when we get back. We kind of recap everything. Sound good, all right, see Caroline? Alright, bye, guys. Wait, that's it busy down there? Man, Well, I mean wait, but that's all we're getting. Yeah, we didn't even really get a chance are about. There's so much more I want to know. There's like there's all I've seen these videos of like pig games going on, like what's going

on with Carson. I mean, obviously we want to know more than just the random people that you know, we know what it goes on A radio road A radio road today yeah, I'm curious, like what celebrities are actually down there. There's things people down there. I don't know, Matt, Why can you call her back real quick? Let's see, let's see what we can get her back on the line before things get too out of hand down there. She's got to be able to make some time for us.

I mean, it's a group chat, the groupies. Hello, guys, Hey, can you hear us? Yeah? Yeah, hey, yeah, where are you right now? My Miami? You know, we just hearn't like the super Bowl stuff or I'm working really hard, are you? It doesn't sound like it is that the beach. This is like no, this is like this is an experience with the super Bowl. Yeah, it's like like it's a part of the NFL experience, like NFL on the beach. Yeah, exactly, I knew you guys have heard of it. Uh, that's

what it is. So there's just like some interviews and you know stuff, who are you going reviewing? Um? Gosh down here, there's so many um uh who's in front of you right now? Um? Right now? Well, a little bit earlier, it was you know Ed Reid is here? Not here? I mean he's not at the NFL experience right now with me. But he was he said this experience. Yeah he he's had a different experience. But you know, Ed Reid is here and William mc ginnis. We saw

Marshall Falk earlier. Some w W E guys. Um a UFC guy that apparently he's a really big deal, but I didn't know who he was. Um, so sorry if any any of those fighter fans out there, I didn't know. Uh O saw Kurt Warner, Um gosh. I mean so there's just so many guys. I can't really Camerly dot No, not not a boke at jack or again. Yeah, yeah, but just a lot. I didn't really know. MAT's really jealous right now. He's never been to the beach, I don't think, so, you know, he's he's trying to process

all this. No, this isn't really the beach. It's just at the end of an experience. They kind of have this set up within the convention center. Did you just order a drink? I think that's what I heard. No, No, No, that wasn't Yeah, No, that wasn't me. You know that was someone Yeah, NFL PR people are just passing around my til yea that yeah, I know that that was just someone else, but they just want to show off.

You know, Miami. It's warmed down here in the sun and they have a beach and all that, so they just kind of set up this little experience. Any are there Have you seen any like female celebrities down there, anyone besides like the the NFL players, Like usually there's some like random cameos from people. Yes, this is actually funny. I I don't know who this woman is, Okay, I know she's apparently a celebrity because there's a big bust outside. I think it's like a um Off brand Kardashian is.

It's just big bus and it's it's her and her family. But I don't know. Uh, there was no like great signage about it. But they have an entire bus here outside. She was walking around wearing a Neon jump suit. O. Um yeah, really, I mean very Miami. I don't know I should have. I honestly packed the same point. I thought I didn't prepare it on the same day. That

would have been really years. But she was walking around and then of course, like you have all your network talent, which is just by the scene throughout throughout the year, we see them from time to time, and they're all in one place. It's a lot of the network talent um. But I haven't. I honestly am terrible at recognizing celebrity. I'm awful. I don't recognize them until someone else will later on be like, oh, did you see so and so? And I was like no, and they're like they were

right beside you. I'm not. I'm not very not very good at that. What would be a good name for the off brand Kartashian family, I don't know, that's really mean. I'm sure she's a very nice lady. I just didn't such basically, well, you know how like Walmart you can get like off brand pop tarts and like toaster tarts instead of pop tarts. I wonder what the brand family for the Kardashians would be called. I don't know, I don't know. I'm sure she was very nice, but that's

just what came to mind when I saw her. Was very made up. You know a lot of makeup, big hair, kind of walking around, jumpsuit and like media row where you have you know, like beat writers all the way to network talent, but then no one is wearing right right, Um, do you wanted to really fly under the radar, you know, can I I hesitate to ask this because it takes this very fun conversation we're having into a somewhat different place. But I'm I'm curious, Caroline is, like, is Kobe a

topic of conversation down there? Like with so many major professional athletes all at one place. I just wonder if like that is still um kind of like permeating throughout like Radio Row, Like do you feel any of that Just it just seems like the entire media world still is very much um, kind of coming to grips with

with what happened. Yeah, it definitely is. Even when you know, we we showed up on Tuesday and we just came down a radio row kind of get a lay of the land and see what was going on, and that was a lot of the topic of conversation. We We came probably around I would say five o'clock to walk around. So that's when a lot of the you know, later network shows are starting, and so that's what a lot of the topic of conversation that we were seeing on

the telepropters and that they were talking about. And then you know, walking through Radio Row. These are legends that are here. There's Hall of Famers here, UM from football, but then like I mentioned, there's w w E Stars here, UM Ultimate Fighters. I mean that we're we're seeing a little bit of every sport here and on this on this stage. So we have heard, you know a little bit here, and they're just still the shock and disbelief that this world did lose Kobe and and and the

other families. I think that's what's been you know great is not just here but everywhere else. Is that you're also you know, you are getting to know the other families that have gone through this tragic, tragic loss and m bringing awareness to you know, the hurt that is happening to multiple families right now. And it's it's so heartbreaking to hear. But I think everyone's just rallying around

that that you know, tragedy and talking about it. But certainly, I mean, like you said, on the stage, where there's so many athletes here that are at the top of their game to lose someone that they look up to. We've heard a little bit here and there about that UM and and you know, talking about his legacy and what he meant to them. UM and then of course

the networks still circulating that. Yeah, yeah, I mean it just seems like everyone who is it has come of age in sports in this era looked at Kobe as an icon and an idol in so many ways, right, just the whole Mamba mentality, the way he went about it. Um, doesn't matter what sport it was. And I've seen like Novak Djokovic was is a guy who looked up in the tennis world and obviously a bunch of guys in our locker room here Kobe. I mean, um, if you're an athlete of any kind, it seems like he had

a major influence and it permeated everything. You know, I've seen so much on social and you know, all of these you know, even like today in the hallway, like you know, everyone did that thing where you just throw the trash and yell Cooke. You know, he permeated our lives. Even if you didn't like basketball, you know, it was just it was he was. He's a first Namer. He's not Kobe Bryant. He's Kobe. Yeah, I mean that's different. He's in a whole different sphere. Well, I appreciate the

inside out out. Yeah. Well, something I thought was interesting last night, there was a media party, and so I got to catch up with um a friend of mine from um l A and she works with the Chargers and so they're building where their studio and kind of media services is a share kind of business. There's other businesses that share that one building. And it was actually, uh, Kobe's foundation is in that building against of some of

what he does. And and she said that, you know, she would show up to work at eight o'clock and sometimes his car would already be there, and that when he was coming in, he was always getting there so early. And that stuck with me last night because you know, we hear about him getting up and going into the gym early, or we hear about him, you know, working

out and having that MoMA mentality in his life. But really what we heard was you know in basketball, but I mean she's talking about his foundations and you know some of his business. Um that he was there before the rest of the crew was there to get some things done. And I you know that that stuck with me when I left that party last night. Was No, it's not just it's not just basketball people, it's not

just sports people. I Mean, he touched the lives of so many people in business and in these foundations and in the work that he was doing. I mean, I think that's been a special part of hearing all these stories. Um, outside of just what he was able to do with sports, that's what he did across the board, and that is certainly, um, you know, permeating still through you know, this big stage that has nothing really to do with basketball. But that's why your pory can say, yeah, well said, Well, I

guess we've taken up enough of your time, Caroline. I know there's just there's a lot of sun, sand and um, some really hard work that lies ahead of you. So we'll let you get to it. I've got to do. Are you guys gonna call me back again? Or do you think you know? Are we good? Put that phone down? I think you you've deserved this. Put us You've deserved it. O, guys, thanks for letting us have some fun on this. I'm not really on the beach, but I am. I don't know.

That's up to you, guys. You know it is a podcast. It's up to It's up to us. But when I come back with a nice pan, just just know I was working really hard. Okay, we will alright, sootically. Thanks all right, Max, Let's wrap up with one final Super Bowl personal memory? What's your? And I think I think both of ours are going to be some what's similar but different? Well, obviously I was um here covering the team when the Panthers went, which was what sticks out

for me about that. Obviously, the game itself couldn't have really gone worse, but the week leading up to it was extremely special. And I think what I remember most about the whole Super Bowl experience, which really winning the NFC championship and being able to say we're going to the super Bowl. That was it was It was such a euphoric moment um and just knowing that, you know, in that locker room after the game, with the guys celebrating, they knew they were headed out to San Francisco for

that Super Bowl. You knew the planning was going to start. It was just there was such an excitement to finding out, Okay, what was the schedule gonna look like? When are we gonna get out there? Okay, we got media day. It's just such a whirlwind and the week itself being out there with that team, which had as much fun as anybody we've really ever seen in the NFL. UM was an absolute blast. And the game, of course is always going to be a painful memory for people associated with

the Panthers. UM, but I'll never forget what it was like to be out there that week and really to watch that team come out of the tunnel for that game. You know that where you see the end zone painted with panthers and it really starts to like hit that this is you know super Bowls are that's the stuff of legends. You know that that stuff lives in hidden

history forever, you know. UM, So just watching that team come out, uh, and you know, Steph Curry out there with the key panting drunk, all of that before before we got started, was truly truly special. UM. And even the end, the end result doesn't take all of that away, doesn't take away the feelings that were associated with this team winning that NFC championship and going to the grandest stage of them all. So that that'll always stick with me.

And it's been cool for me. You know, I came here in seventeen and just listening to all of y'all stories about you know, the individual moments of the week, and you know the way you know you can kind of, um, you know, bring it all in and focus on it and savor it. I think for me, like I've only been to one Super Bowl. I was a pr in turn back and oh eight, and I was lucky enough to be at one of you know, I think they

ranked them all. I think this is gonna it will always be maybe top ten, maybe top five, you know, Cardinals and Steelers and Santonio Holmes is catch and I happened to be in the corner of the end zone maybe five ten feet away from it. Um, you know there were you for James Harrison's I was up in the upper deck. Um, so like I had to. I was like sitting with the auxiliary media. Essentially passing out hot dogs was my job. So yeah, I mean just

sitting in the upper deck for that. Yeah, I mean there was but like even that was back when I think there's more like there are more old school cameras than cell phones. So like you still had that cool

flash moment, you know at kick off. I mean it was incredible to watch, like because everyone was ready for it to like look at all the flashes at kick off and that those those sort of things that you'll never forget, but being on that field and watching that moment and just realizing, oh my god, this is a super Bowl moment, like that just happened. This is going to always be played forever and forever that that that

game was incredible, so many just unbelievable moments. It is absolutely one of those that's you know, in the argument for the greatest Super Bowls of all time. There's just something so like amazing about being at the place where you literally know the entire world's watching, Like like you're when you're like standing on that field or you're in that press box, and like you literally know that, we know that, we know the world is a pretty big place.

Everybody focused on where you are at that point in time, which is just one of those kind of like out of body experiences. Nothing like that. It's kind of hard to comprehend. So hopefully this team gets back there soon. That'd be fun. It's all about the process, well, process, gotta build it back up and look one day to Niners are a perfect example too in fourteen, four and twelve Super Bowl. Yeah, I get you get the right pieces,

get the right leadership. You just gotta build it the right way, you know, everyone's got to buy in and it can be done. I mean, that's the beauty of the NFL, honestly, is that these kind of stories that they're not fairy tales like this, This can happen, and it happens a lot quicker than NBA or anything else. Really. I mean, you can turn it around quick, but you got to do it the right way. Yep. You got the right leadership in place, and that's hopefully, you know,

Dave Tepper believes he's done that. And you know, this season is going to start in earnest here. As soon as the super Bowl comes and goes, everyone's record goes back to zero and zero, as they say, so it begins again, and obviously we're all anxious for that. I think we did a pretty decent job without Caroline again. Yeah, it was nice to have her part of the show. This time. We didn't leave her out completely like we did when we talked to Pete them all about that rule.

She She had a She had a great, great part in today's show. Even even though we're all a little bit. Mat shifted in as well. I thought Matt brought us strong today. This this made up see how he does in post made up for last week? Yeah, what happened last week? We had a better we had a better week, this week, better week, always getting better. I don't know what he means by that, Mat, but I'm gonna we gotta review the tape. Yeah, we gotta review the tape.

Yeah we can get better. Yeah. Anything else for us, Well, I think I'm good. I started. So you're gonna you broughtesting. You gotta bring it out, bring it out. Yeah, that's on you. I never never brought it out before. I always just take my headphones off and then it's over. I just yet close the computer, take it out, Yeah, and then just walk out and you know, bring us out. No, this is we're gonna. We're gonna. They're gonna make him do this right, absolutely right, as long as it takes,

we're gonna stay right. From producer Matt Hogan, from host Caroline Can down in Miami for Max Sinson. I'm Will Brian. This is the Group Chat sponsored by Lift. Thank you and have a great week. Nailed it.