The Group Chat Episode 22: Slow Burn

But don't worry. We talked about the good stuff too, including the best of our thanksgivings. Well brought us some deviled eggs, which is that was not on the original sign up sheets, so it's kind of a it's a different sort of deal. But you know they're good. That's something that you've kind of perfected. You've done You've done the I've I've done it. I've gotten better at it. I originally the first time I did it, I underboiled the eggs. So that was that wasn't good. Had to

go get some more eggs. We have that and so much more, including an added bonus at the very very end, you've been added to the group chat with your friends Caroline can, Max Sensen, and Will Brian the group CHOT. I think as a collective group today we do we weigh more because of how much we ega Thanksgiving. If there was a scale that we were sitting on, we would definitely be how many more pounds have you? What do you think? I ate my heart out. I say

maybe six two pounds for each of us. That's too much. Did we tell the groupies about the Department Thanksgiving that you organized? You should tell everyone that was awesome groupies. We did an inaugural Department Thanksgiving lunch and it was a roaring success and we all brought stuff. So yeah, everyone signed up. And originally everyone thought that they had to cook something, and so it was a little slow of a sign up process. Because I there, I signed

up immediately. I knew it. I knew what I was bringing, and you did too. Did you took me a little bit, but I got in there. Yeah, you got in there. Once I made it clear that you could also buy what you were bringing. It filled up pretty quickly. I was a green mean cast role. That's what I brought that. I also brought the turkey. Yeah I got that one. Yeah, you I mean you were low key m VP for bringing I mean low key, and I wanted someone to sign up to do the turkey, but that was a

bit comment. Maybe next year. Actually, potato cast role with the marshmallows on to my face, Max pretty much brought dessert, is what Max? It is? I am weird about sweet potato cast role and even with the marshmallows sometimes, No, that was phenomenal. How long does it take it it's

a it's a process. Yeah, well so I just was completely following my mom's directions on how to do this because she always makes that on Thanksgiving and her I mean, you can buy it canned, but her trick to making it even better is like you use actual sweet potatoes and those things were in the oven for like two hours and then like the skin literally just falls off and then you just kind of mash them up and boom.

It's not not too hard after that. But that's why I like Green mean cast role because you don't have to be patient, just put it all together and you put it in there for about and the best part, we didn't really have to cook the Green meme cast role. You just put it all together and then our great crew here like America Stadium. They actually finished preparing things for us, so that was great. That was so easy. I'm not not the best cook, really, I just don't

enjoy it. I think I have my staples that I'm I'm good at and I know I know how to do this and I will I would do, but trying new recipes, I'm not confident in it. I I tried to make green curry last night. Yeah, so that's like, that's yeah, that's not simple, not good. It wouldn't. It wasn't. It just didn't have a lot of flavor. So I did you like get through it or did you just like talk? I had one helping and then I tossed.

I tossed a lot of it, but I kept the chicken and I did it with chicken, so I just kind of got the chicken out and I said some of the curries. I was thinking maybe sitting having it sit overnight will be better. Yeah, but maybe no, I don't know. Well. Will brought us some deviled eggs, which that was not on the original sign up sheets. It's kind of a it's a different sort of deal. But

you know they're good. That's something that you've kind of perfected you've done, You've done the I've I've done it. I've gotten better at it. I originally the first time I did it, I underboiled the eggs, so that was that wasn't good. I had to go get some more eggs. But now I've I've gotten it down to a science. Now. Yeah, yeah, Well, we do hope everyone out there had a great Thanksgiving. It's such a fun way to kick off the holiday season. But now I'm glad everyone's on the same page that

it's it's Christmas, Hanuka all the holidays. And I said hanaka because holiday season. Look at this, this lovely tree. There is a tree in here that is it's a Charlie Brown Christmas tree. It's a good way. One little ornament, there's one ornament and there's some blue felt around the bottom that makes me think it's snow or I yeah, just winter feel Yeah that was nice. I mean, and the studio usually feels pretty wintry. Yes, and it's so we're good. But yes, we do hope everyone had a

great Thanksgiving. And now that everyone, I hope you have all of your Christmas and all those decorations. Did I have to ask did you kill it on Cyber Monday slash Black Friday. Black Friday killed it. Caroline was telling me all about this like strategy, that yeah, is he you and your mom whom this tradition And it really started with her mom and they would go back in the day when places did not open until Black Friday

and we were young kids. They would I mean they had the full spreadsheet where they were going, what they were getting, the prices. Okay, you go in staying in line. I'm going to go get the items and come back, so you're not there for a long time. But now it's not as high tech because places open on Thanksgiving.

But we my my father decided to join us this year, which I think he he will not do it, although he did end up getting some of the best deals and so maybe maybe he'll be enticed to come back. Is it is still as much of a physical thing as it used to be now with so much online shopping, do people still like run over each other? It is because there are things in store that you cannot get online and so they're not a lot though. That was my dad's big question when we were there an hour

before the store opened. He was like, why why are we waiting here before and we talked about that. There was actually a family setting up a concession stand, which was so smart, Like, while we're spending money, they're making money. Good job, guys, How is that? How has that not become a thing like Walmart? Just like, all right, we've we've permitted it. You can drink in our parking lot. People out there in the parking lot with giant like Nordstrom, Macy's,

Jersey's on. Just like getting ready for all right, next group chat. Were trademarking this the group chat. We now we have an adventure. This is what we're doing. We're preparing everything. Should have a tailgate. Yeah. It was fun. We got a lot of great deals and then we were we were done. We we did so well on Black Friday. I didn't get anything on Cyber Monday. No, you didn't take part in Cyber Monday. I did. I did some damage on Cyber Monday. Yeah, I can't, can't deny. Yeah,

but a lot of it my life. And I spent like getting gifts for people, you know, like trying to knock that out. That's what I see. I think that's what everyone does, right, I do. I do the best thing stuff myself Yeah, we used to go and get like our TVs game. I feel like TV is the big black Friends. There was one where I was so tempted because this TV that sells originally for they give them away. I know, it's weird. It's always a TV that and like the Instant Pot, it's always like a

huge Friday deal. Lets please let us know the best deal you got on Black Friday, Cyber Monday, all of that. I love hearing it. I get so jealous because then you can turn around and resell them. That's what people were doing with those TVs. They were buying them up just to resell them because the margin was That's not the integrity of this game. Yeah, that's not what it's for, what it's about. But I'm proud of you for having an entrepreneur mind. It's like the Popeye is sandwiches. Oh

we're selling those for like a hundred bucks. Yeah, it is crazy. But we'll talk about football now. Now let's get transition. That's called. So it was a great thanksgiving, a great lead up to this game. The game itself started great, started great. I thought it was going to be a blowout Panthers victory. I really did it felt it felt good. It just felt physically great. Those first two drives being on the sideline. There was not a swag on that sideline that you're up fourteen nothing after

two series, there wasn't. There really wasn't, And and I didn't think much of it when it was happening because, like I said, physically, everything was happening so well that it was like, well, you don't, you don't need that. Everything's clicking. They're just very zoned in and everything. Everyone's

focused on this. But then when things started to slip away, that's when I kind of thought back to you know what never really felt like we had it was it was a slow burn, and it was kind of like, oh, here's a big long run, but that's the only thing they've given up, just this one long run. And then all that we held into a field goal and then it's like all the it's just kind of like and then it just kept slipping away. But before we get too much into it, we are going to do big episode,

one big segment here of Line of the Week. It's been such a success. Good job Max coming up with this that we credit are the man who introduced it. Every week Line of the week. That's a good one that that feels appropriate for this So we're doing, um a couple or a few soundbites from this week responding to the game, and we're going to start out first with Jerius right, who was talking about this slow burn

that happened to this team. Man. You know, sometimes it shifts and you don't even know that that it's shifted, but uh, like you say, it's slowly, it's slowly shifted in you know, they got the field goals and we even had you know, field goal block to you know, keep points off the board, but just slowly went bad for us downhill. It's it's like it's like we had heard that quote before. We just said that. Yeah, that that's what you call stealing his thunder. Sorry Jers, but

it is true. And what I take away from hearing him say that, and I was the one that was in that interview with him, he was dumbfounded isn't the correct word, because he they knew what happened. But I think reflecting on it, it was a bit of how did we just let that happen? Yeah, especially to go to go fourteen nothing on a Washington team that had two wins coming in Dwayne Haskins was making just his

fourth ever start. That that like that was the recipe to win, and win decisively, to put Haskins in a situation down two scores where they've got to have to throw throw the ball and get back into it. But unfortunately that never happened because Washington was able to just turn around and hand it off and have a ton

of success on the ground. And I think that's really where the like the slow burn eventually built into this inferno of disaster with the fact that they just couldn't contain the Washington ground game, and that that's amazing to me, even saying that because they had a fourteen nothing lead, like that shouldn't it shouldn't have happen in a game

when it's fourteen nothing. And I think, like I point to one one moment in particular, I believe at this point it was fourteen three, Curtis Samuel is wide open down the middle of the field and the ball is just like a fingertip length too far. He catches at it's a touchdown. The defender had fallen. It's three. At that point the game, the complexion of the game completely changes. At that point. Washington can't run the football. I mean, they have to be able to try to get some

scores quickly. Instead, it was just clut kind of within reach enough to where Darius Guys and Adrian Peterson could keep shredding the defense. And and look, we've talked about it on this show all season, and the run defense has just been an issue and it it just hasn't changed. And Washington exposed it completely on Sunday to the yards and just over time, those rushing yards continue to pile

up the points eventually did for Washington. And on the flip side, Caroline is off fence just completely when cold. I think it's the run game and then being able to have the production that they had. It is a little bit it makes you pause to think that this team was up fourteen nothing, and I think that's when a lot of teams would have said, we have to start throwing the ball so that this doesn't get out of hand. But it was just two scores and it was so early in the game that you're right, I

think that past occurred to Samuel. I mean there's other things if even if they hadn't gotten the field goal, because the field goal still made it that lopsided. Where Okay, now, if we do get two, scores were up or not just tied with them. So I think even that that big run, the sixty yard run that they had on their second drive, I believe that was the first sign of trouble. Yes, I mean, it's fourteen nothing and then they hit that sixty yard run. I think that was

the big one. But then after those first two drives, that's when the first down struggle started to happen for this Carolina Panthers team. And I think that is the slow burn that this team is talking about. It's not something it's not a big play, it's not you know. I mean, the sixty yard run was a big play, but they didn't score on it. It's not like that,

you know, that was it. It did set them up for a field goal, but we stopped them from scoring a touchdown, So that was a I think when they get off the field the field goal after that run, you you take that as a winkright, that's good. They only got three, But when they have these first down struggles, you're not really going to notice it unless you're really paying attention. What Washington was able to then do was in these second long, third and long they're able to

blitz and get after. Kyle was sacked six times in this game, seven times, but it never felt to me. It never felt like, oh boy, here here goes a big stack game. You know. It never felt like that. But because of the pressure that could get on him, he started to feel a little flustered. And I think the biggest difference from those first two drives to that very last play was was a confidence in Kyle Allen

had slowly been chipped away because he was running. He had to run, He had to start getting out of trouble. As the game, when a pressure affects quarterbacks, and even when there's not pressure there, suddenly they you know, we saw a Jets quarterback or this season admit and a live mike that he was seeing ghosts. I mean, like

that's that's a real thing. When when defensive coordinator is talking about trying to get after the passer, Yeah, you want to get sacks, but just being around him and getting him off his spot, disrupting him has a cumulative effect. And I think that's what we saw from Kyle throughout the course of this game was guy who wasn't really necessarily trusting the protection in front of him, and when

that happens, things can break down. On the last play of the game, where he's got an uncovered jarious right, he kind of bails a little quicker than he should have and got off his read quicker because you're almost anticipating the pressure and and that's what defense has tried to do. I mean, that's that's a recipe for success. What's also a recipe for success defensively is taken away one of the best running backs in the game, Christian McCaffrey.

Fourteen carries forty four yards. I mean they bottled him up. And then to your point, Caroline, when when on first down it's either penalty or negative play, and now all of a sudden you're in second and long, you've got to throw the ball. And again that's taking it out of the hands of Christian And unfortunately for Carolina, you'd think up fourteen nothing, it's going to be a big

Christian day, and it was anything but. And you you got to give a lot of credit for Washington coming in here knowing even down two scores that they were going to stick to that game plan. I mean, Bill Callahan came in Essentially they put an extra offensive lineman. In almost the entire second half, it was just gonna We're just gonna continue to run it on this team and make them stop it, and then they never could. Well.

Going back to your comment of even the offense having to trust the protection as far as Kyle having to protection, we heard that same sentiments on the defensive side of the ball. This is a quote from Mario Addison when asked about what this defense has to do to take that next step in stopping the run. What you gotta chose each other to do their job. You gotta know your job and do your job. Simple. It is simple, But man, it does not seem simple, does it. This

quote was telling. I thought Mario is always very honest. He's always very genuine as far as how he feels the simple at the end of this is a frustrated Mario Addison, and he's not really a player that gets frustrated too much, especially in front of the media, but this was one He's simple. Yeah, and and it goes back to know your job, do your job, and trust each other. That just that, that to me says that's not happening right now. And I think it's very easy

when you look at what Washington was able to do. Yeah, there's some there's some miscommunications, Um, are you doing your job? And that that comes with the fact that they haven't been able to do it consistently. Yeah. And I think that when it comes to the ground game, it's a big pride factor as well. And I think that's kind of what you hear from Mario. There is at a certain point all these guys these better ends on defense. It's your pride takes a hit when a team essentially

says we're going to run it until you can stop it. Um. And yeah, I mean, you know, Ron has been asked about the scheme about gap control and all those sorts of things. But I mean you can see it like like mistackles, I mean in you're gonna get the guy down or not. And I think for this defense, what's been really frustrating is allowing teams to kind of run it down their throats. I mean that's as a defense, that is a humbling feeling that's been felt too many times.

And I think one of the other things that Mario points out and says, you know, look, we've got to trust each other, it sort of sounds like he's saying without saying it that they haven't been trusting each other. And if you're gonna play defense at a high level in this league, you have to be doing it as one. You know, it can't be eleven guys kind of if you're not in the same page, you know you're you're gonna get exposed. And I think that's something that this

this unit has has struggled with the times. It's guys either and I go, We've said it before, trying to do too much overcompensating and when that happens, any little kind of you know, the armor has a little crack at it. It's Adrian Peterson, Darius guys, these guys are gonna make you pay. And I mean, and that's what we saw to the tune again of eight point three yards per attempt, I mean, and they were they were lining up to do it. I mean, they knew what

their intentions. Yes, I mean when when they when they had that play of when Petersons touched down the second half, they brought everybody in, no wide receivers. It's it's what it's you know, it's nine people on the line and everyone's in the box. And all it took was sealing off two guys and there was no one back except for Bradberry. It was it was just like, hey, we're gonna run right up the middle and we see where we're what you're doing, and we figured out a way

to get through it, and they did well. I even think you go of I'm not trusting each other. We've said this a couple of weeks ago about Luke. Luke feels like Luke has to do extra and I think he's never said that. They've never come out and said this, but the way that he's playing and makes it feel like he can't just focus on his job because he feels like he needs to also make sure that okay, Well, something that happened in this game is our guy is not where he needs to be, so I need to

be there. But then that means it. So it's this trickled on effect. And when it starts with your front seven of what Mario is saying, and he's maybe talking about the whole defense. He didn't point out people, he didn't point fingers. It's still this locker room that's staying together. But there is a little bit of, hey, we've got to start trusting each other. I think that trickles down to them your second and third line. When you're going

eight yards per carry, that's hitting into your secondary. So that's where we saw, you know, Trey Boston and and Ross Cockerell coming in and having to make these tackles and and these are corners and safeties that are coming down. And the safeties make more sense. But your corners are not built to stop the run. But they're going to help in that, but they're not built to be the ones that are stopping you eight yards down. The second

leading tackler on the team is Eric Reed. I mean, when was the last time that well, and honestly, in order to try to stop these issues to find in the run, they put him in as a linebackers, right. I mean he's playing so close the line scrimmage now that you know he's strong, strong inside the box, safe and I know, look, I think offense, the offensive performance

plays into this a little bit as well. I Mean we talked about this being a game where the offensive even have to compliment one another, and the offense is struggling, you can almost get the sense that the defense feels like they have to do something to make a play to spark things, you know, And I think that's kind of where you can get in trouble sometimes, is instead of just kind of doing your one eleven, now there's like this extra kind of well, I gotta do something

to make a play here, and that's just kind of human nature. But the Redskins kind of use that against them, you know, the the the over pursuit, and Ron mentioned they tried some run pressure to try to get some things going that was used against them for a big chunk. So it's just to me, it all goes hand in hand. And when the offense is unable to string drives together slowly, their lead is tipped away at and now it's suddenly deficit. I think defensively, that sort of changes the mindset as well.

And now these guys, instead of just focusing on getting the doing their assignment, getting the guys on the ground, now it becomes so we've we've got to make a big splash play to start of get this crowd back into it, to get this team back into it, and that can, as we saw, it can lead to trouble. Yeah, and it is the snowball effect, and that's what we

saw in this game in particular. But I think that's the bigger picture of this season is little by little, we've seen some things that they haven't been addressed or fixed or you know, whatever it is, and they've snowballed into this bigger problem. And now you're sitting where you

are in this season. Uh, and the playoffs I don't know where they are, um, but they're not anywhere near as far as in reaches of what the Panthers can do to make sure that they get in other than they need to take care of these this last quarter of the season to even think about it. But they're gonna have to get some big help there. What you heard from Jerryus, we've heard from Mario. Now let's hear from the man who ultimately gave them their jobs and the rest of the team gives them their jobs. As

Marty Hernie post game. But we have to learn how to win games. And um, we're young at some spots, but we've made way too Maine. That takes today to win this game. I think that, Um, when you're in the position we are, you can get up four team nothing and then one thing goes wrong and the thing goes wrong. I think it really is a matter of confidence at times as far as and in confidence comes from execution. Yeah, so pretty much. It's like we'd heard

that one as well. It's the snowball effect, and he was saying that little by little these things add up. But I love the last little bit of that confidence comes from execution, and that's what this team is lacking. Yeah. I look at like, especially when he's talking about the mistakes too. I look at two moments. One in the late in the second quarter, Washington does a great job pinning Carolina down there on two yard line, right, and that's exactly what you want from a fuel position standpoint.

Now you can kind of got a team backed up, and Carolina in that situation is just trying. You're trying not to make a mistake, and Kyle throw's the interception at d J. Moore sets up a score quickly for Washington. A similar situation happens in the second half. Washington down at their own one yard line and they bust a twenty one yard run on the first play, give themselves breathing room. And to me, it's like that that's that's two great examples of the mistakes Carolina made and the

mistakes that Washington they couldn't force them into. Dwayne Hassins was given the ball at way with more frequency than anybody else in the league right now. He was getting sacks more frequently any quarterback in the league. I mean, this was a guy that you could force into mistakes. They couldn't. They couldn't force him into one. Unfortunately, Carolina's

quarterback made a big one. I mean that interception there kind of a big turning point in the game, and that's It's a moment where I think when Malty's talking about learning how to win at that with that fuel position at that point in the game, you've got to avoid that. You just have to. And DJ kind of gets thrown off his route whatever the case may be. The ball ends up in the hands of a Washington defender and you give a short field for for an

offense that had really been struggling at that point. But it was all Washington needed to really get themselves going. And I think that's a perfect example of just the mistake made by one team and the mistakes that Washington didn't make on the other side. And that's why a guy who making his fourth career start, who completes just about his passes and throws for a hundred forty seven yards, walks out of here as the winning quarterback because it

does it all starts with a run. Like it's incredible. How when when you when you have when you have to run the ball because you're trying to protect your quarterback, and then you can do it. It's incredible what happens, and and stopping the run and running it, you know, establishing the run so that Kyle doesn't have to throw on first down, on second down every time. He doesn't have the pressure of a third and twelve. You know it. And Haskins didn't have to. I mean you talk about

like he didn't make him. He didn't have to throw the ball at all. He only they only had a hundred and eighteen net passing yards. I mean they didn't throw it at all. They didn't have to. It's easy to make mistakes, but you don't have to do something. Yeah, I think that that to the last play, that last series that we've seen four times this season. The execution or lack there of execution is a big, big deal.

And yes, we can say it's a big deal because they don't win, but I think this team is sitting on the fence in a lot of categories, and with a young team, and yes they have veteran leaders, and then this, this young youth conversation is not an excuse of why things are happening. It's the reality of where they are. And when you're young, you just haven't experienced a lot of things. You haven't done things. You can't go into a place and say I've done this before

in the NFL. You may have done it in college, but that's very different. They're sitting on the fence and this goal line, red zone, end of game, can win the game, and not getting it done is such a fence problem, such a fit. They're just sitting there, sitting on the fence and they're looking they can touch a victory, but they're not able to do it. And I thought that last play of the game that was a very uncomb just not a very confident team that they didn't

have because they haven't done it. They knew what was there, they knew what was at stake, they knew that this was the tipping point. Three times this season this has happened. Absolutely, they've talked about it meetings. Absolutely, they've you know, felt like, all right, we have this fix. And when it was that last play, there was no juice on the sideline. This is after a touchdown on sidekick, and now you've marched your way down there to be able to to

be with an arm's reach. You wonder. I mean, I kind of admit a thought of myself when DJ got stopped at the one, I was like, yeah, if he just gets in. But now you're in the situation where here we are, here we go again. Okay, it's it's first and goal at the one, and then they try to hurry it up and Christian get stopped for a loss. And then as soon as that happened, it was kind of like, all right, well, now we get into the second.

They're playing tight. They know that a lot is on the line here and that is where this team and the youth shows. And it should be pointed out that that they're down by eight, so not only do they have to score touched on there, but then they have to get a two win conversion, and with this team's issues down there in that area, there's no guarantee that they make the two win conversions. And so I think

that's that's something that needs to be pointed out. But still, of course your your point stands that for whatever reason, down in those big moments where the field is super tight down in that goal line area, that they just haven't been able to execute. And that's about And it's been miss blocks, it's been open receivers that haven't been located, it's been routes that have not maybe been run at the proper depth or finding the holes, and it's everybody

plays a part in this. Of course, the quarterback is going to bear the brunt of it in a moment like that where he retreats and Jarius is standing there wide open. But whatever reason you want to say that, you just gotta find a way to punch it in. You have to. And I think even looking at those those few plays, what happened on first down, second and third down when you've got four cracks at this thing um and again on all all of those snaps, the

execution wasn't there. And I think that's that's why as soon as as when DJ makes that catch, it was like, oh, man, just get in here so you can just avoid this altogether and then give it a give it a shout at the two point try. You give Washington credit for getting him down when they did. That's that's why they say you gotta if you're a defender getting somebody down at the one yard line, live to see another down. And for Washington, they lived to see four more and

they got off the field with the wind. And this past month we've seen them try everything. I mean, it's not like it's the same. I mean, they've they've tried sweet plays. They've tried Alex Arma jumping over the pile. They've tried I like what they tried to do with hurrying it up quick, let's try to catch him off guard and just get Christian in here. And of course that didn't go right. And they they've they've tried Christman,

Christian of the middle. They've tried, you know, pick plays to get I mean, and they just you know, whether it's alignment missing the block, whether it's Christian going through the wrong hole, whether it's Kyle not throwing the ball where he needs to, I mean, it's everything. I think there's so many uncharacteristic things happening for this team that it comes down to confidence. It's it's they can we

do it, not a we can do this. I mean, Christian McCaffrey dropping a ball is so un characteristic that he's thinking about more than just trying catch that ball. He's already thinking, I have to get this ball in, run up field and get all you know, in that moment. I have to do that because I don't know if

we can in other places. Like that's how everyone And it's not that he is, you know, maybe thinking that if that is going through his mind, it's not because it's you know, he's bashing his teammates that they can't do it. There's nothing like that. It's just I have to do this for my team. And I think that's the mindset that everyone has right now. And when you're playing with that monkey on your back of I have to do this or we will not do it. I

think that's the trust that Mario is talking about. I have to do this because no one else will, or we can't do it. And and that's the monkey on the back that I think this team has. And and unfortunately it's getting down to the end of the season where they're running out of time to figure it out. And and now, I mean, we we heard this week that it's you know, that's when you start throwing the

youth in there even more. Yet, you know, when do you when you start putting even more guys that are young out there to get them experience so that you're not in this same boat come the start of next season. That's where the Panthers are. You hate that you're there in December because there is still a lot of football left to be played. But that's the reality of this team. I think Marty kind of put it best. If the confidence comes from execution, and we're just not seeing that

execution for this team, which hurts. It just hurts guys. We almost came on here and did another group therapy session, but yeah, no, to be foreign too, and and then to be here, yeah, I mean, and this is for a team that's kind of gone through this now for two years, where off to a good start and just sort of see it kind of deteriorate. Um. It's there's

it's what what what? What more could be said? There's really not more to say, And as I think it, Marty put put it best, this team's gotta learn how to win, UM And there's no excuse for youth at this point anymore. That's what Round mentioned to the media Monday, is like, at this point the process is over. We're in this the final phase of the season. There really aren't rookies anymore. Everybody's been here long enough. It's about producing.

This is a performance based business. Uh. And when you're in a fight for playoff liitioning like this team was in. Look, you gotta be a two in Washington team at home, you have to And when you don't get it done, obviously there's gonna be a lot of questions asked, and rightfully so well. Sometimes as a family, we just don't have to have all great wonderful conversations. Sometimes you just need to know what's going on and hit the reality. This is where we are. Look at us. Will is

giving me a like a look like what is going on? Yeah? No, I mean when you sometimes it's just not much left to say. And I think I think there's there's a lot of that kind of around. You know, there's just there's not much left to say. I mean, we're we're we're all. We've all seen it, we've all looked at it. It's a lot of it's a lot of recurring issues. Yeah, you know, it's like it's not like it's new stuff every week, right, I mean, we've been talking about a

lot of this for a few weeks now. But if we look at what they have ahead, four games left still to division games. I mean we got the Caroline Can revenge game coming up? Is that what it is? Revenge? Am I looking for revenge? That's just like what the media has called it all the time. What would you prefer to be called? I don't know. I'll come up with it's not a revenge game. It would it would definitely be revenge if they like cut me and I, you know, got picked up. I think that's why it's funny.

I think that's why it's funny. It's like like when I said, like it was like the Greg Man vote and revenge game against the Packers, it was like, no one's talking about all right, we'll just tea it is. Yeah, the revenge game is coming up December. We're gonna look, we're going week by week here, guys, But we don't actually we don't have to do that. The team can do that. The team will look week by week. We don't have to do that. December market the big game's

been circled down our calendar all year. It's a big game. It really has been. Because I knew that I was taking this job before the schedules came out, and so I'm working for the Colts at the time, and we're getting ready for the big schedule release, you know how that is in our world, the biggest moment of the year for content creators. And I didn't really know the

schedule for the Colts. I knew the schedule for the Pays because when when that one dropped, was looking at it and um, and then you know, I thankfully we didn't do one where I had to go up and talk about the schedule about the cults. We did it differently than we had in years past, So I didn't really look at the cults schedule, but I did look at the Panthers. So yeah, you're right, this one has been circled since April's This is what I'm looking forward to.

We still have a couple of weeks. Atlanta. First, I have a lot of families. It would be great to knock off the Falcons, right, that's if you're not going to make the playoffs, ruin the playoffs for other teams. I'm that person. I mean, not that Atlanta, not that Atlanta's in that, but you have some I mean with the Saints, the cultures, the kind of made a similar position as far as playoffs are concerned as the Panthers. But the Seahawks, I mean, you've got some games coming

up where just go ruin it. You can ruin New Orleans home field advantage, and why not be that team? Yeah, that's and that's an attitude. They just get that attitude saying like we have not like I think that's what Washington had. They're they're not playing for anything that's one hates them. They can come in and just play. That's why you I mean, like you saw Miami beat Philly.

I think you see that at this time of year because there are a lot of teams like that who have you're either the playing for an interim coach or the pressure is off. You know, you're not playing for anything other than really pride. At this point, there's a there's a freedom that comes with that ability to play loose, and yeah, I think you see some results come come from that. I had a coach say a couple of years ago in an interview that when you have internal expectations,

that's what you should pay attention to. But when you have outside expectations, that's when you know you're doing something either very right or very wrong. If you're a middle of the road team, people have no expectation for you, just whatever. But if you have a low expectation or a very high expectation from the outside, it means you're do ink something and and so I've always thought about that when you get to this time of the year, or even I went to the climpse in Carolina game.

I'm a Carolina fan. My expectations were set. I was not sad leaving Columbia just because they got beat by the Tigers. That was my expectation. I'm I'm a I get it, and I appreciate all of you out there that did not rub it in my face. I think you've got the message that I didn't really care. But I think that's what we're getting to in this part of the season, not just for the Carolina Panthers, for a lot of teams. Set your expectations, and they're going

to set their expectations. Their expectation is always played at the best. You know, all the cliches that we hear that's actually real. But the outside expectation, I think that's when this time of the year, and that's what Washington was doing they know the outside expectation is that they're not really going to do it. The Dolphins know it. They go beat the Eagles, And I think all of these things, these on the fence teams or where you don't really know going into the game, and I think

that's the Carolina Panthers right now. But they're those teams dangerous. They're just I mean, and you might see some trick plays. I mean, there's why not uh And I don't know, Callahan came in some boltimore to you. They hadn't one here since getting the guys all riled up about that. It's like, look that that team came out in here on a mission. And if if you don't play well, I don't care what the record of the team is in this league, you're you're gonna get beat. And unfortunately

for the Panthers, that's that's that's what happens Sunday. Well, that was a lot to digest. There's my last things, giving jokes, there's a lot to digest. But I still want to know what your best Black Friday or Cyber Monday deal was out there, So you please let us know on social media and we'll see you in mayor Flavor Town looking at you, the mayor Flavor Town and the group piece. He's just he's the beyor. But yes, please send those to us. We're heading to Atlanta, first

time going. This is my first time in the new stadium. Oh, my first time. So I'm kind of excited about it. Mercedes Benz will throw their name on a stadium, that's for sure, so and specifically in the NFC South. So I'm excited to see my second Mercedes bens Dome didn't come and this one I'm trying to go one and one at the Mercedes bins because we you know, you know, I just saw that one the super Dome, right, always

always trying, always try and pay the bills. So on the radio, I was like, welcome back to whether SADI has been Superdome? Although I kept saying New Orleans? Is that of New Orleans? I kept saying New Orleans and I can't, yeah why, I'm like, welcome back to the Mercedes been super bowed in New Orleans? What New Orleans? I get it. For those that were wanting to go, a mat might have something. Tell us how to say it, go Tigers go. I'm not getting to say it all right, guys,

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