The Group Chat Episode 20: Group Therapy 2.0 (Fan Edition)

this week's the group Chat. You've been added to the group Chat with your friends Caroline can, Max Sensen, and Will Brian. Welcome everyone two group there a p How are we doing today? Really relaxed, actually very relaxed. Yes, this is no longer the group Chat. We have turned this into group therapy And if you saw a tweet that went out this week, we wanted to help all

of you. Are groupies, are friends out there with dealing with you know, the reality of Panther football right now and what we're what we're dealing with as a fan base and as as friends. So we're just here to help. I think we should all close our eyes. Is this what's the I don't know what comes next. I'm uncomfortable. What's the what's that the noises that people make that make them relax? What are those called? A S A M A s mmr. Clearly, like I thought it was

just like the rain app on my phone? Is that was like that of one of the I don't think that's one of the noises that people apparently like, is my pet peeve? It's the sound of people chewing. There is a full track of this A s mr. Is that correct? The A S m R track of people chewing. That's what the Cowboys did for their schedule ease. Remember this year when they had like like they had sounds of each team and they had like the packers and they had like the cheese grater, remember that, And they

had like the different sounds for each one. Yeah, what do they use chewing for? I think they played the giants and they chewed into an apple. Oh, it's not the noise of the food that gets me. It's just chewing. Yeah, I'm with you. It's the worst. But back to group therapy. What we're doing here is is just like I mentioned, sitting down as friends talking about the reality of Panther football right now in the act that this past weekend was tough, it was rough, it was not a fun

weekend for Panther fans. Owner David Tepper said it best. But because we're a family friendly podcast, we can't say exactly what he said, but he just said it was a poopy weekend. Poopy. That'll be our line of the week this week. Also, let's just get that out of the way. That will be with a poopy weekend. So as the reality of where we are, we're turning this

into we just want to help you out. We want to hear your problems, we want to talk about it, we want to help you work through it and to get ready for the New Orleans Saints because this season, it moves quickly, it moves fast. So we've actually given you more time than the players get. Then the team gets, they get this twenty four hour rule to move on. It's spoiler alert. It's been more than twenty four hours.

But some of you are so fired up in your email and your voice smails that were left to us when we put out a hotline for our group, he's out there that we need to address some of the emails and phone calls that we got, so welcome to group therapy, our first client. Today. We're not gonna say he's the front runner of our groupie fan club, but if it was a competition, I think he would be winning. Agreed. You might know him on Twitter as the Mayor of

Flavor Town. He's not the mayor of Flavor Town. We're not even sure if this is a fan account for the Mayor of Flavor Town. But he's our mayor of Flavor Town, and that's all that we need to max. Who's the actual mayor Flavor Town. Well, his abbey is a image of Guy Fiertti. What you gotta make sure you pronounce it right, Fietti Fietti. It's not fiery. Well, probably what you were going to say, That's what I

was gonna say. That's that's also why I didn't say it, though I knew it was wrong, So I just stuck with Mayor Flavortown, hoping everyone knew. Well, we're gonna help him out here because he sent an email that he said originally was twenty words long, but he narrowed his angle to just pick the top frustration for this season, and it is as followed the defense, specifically, how did this defense become completely inept and seemingly do so overnight. He then goes on to list a bunch of others.

There's a lot more, and Mayor, we're all about being thorough, but for the sake of time, we're gonna skip over. Although we did read your email, we're going to to answer some of the things that you said. But my favorite part of this entire email is at the bottom. He doesn't leave us his real name, your favorite Twitter, which is kind of true. Mayor flavor Town with his Twitter handle at j t f C underscore t M disclaimer.

I understand that making an NFL roster puts you in the very, very small small percentage of athletes in the world that I often trip walking up the stairs. I'm in no position to criticize the athletic proudness of anyone, especially any of my beloved Panthers has shoutag keep pounding. We appreciate that. But you spent words saying otherwise self awareness. I appreciate that he does. And he also put asterisks in his paragraph where he would like that disclaimer to go,

which is perfect. It was right after did you notice that. Yeah, it was right after the day. Oh yeah. It's kind of funny though, Like you know, you don't remember the Curb episode where it was like if you say, now, having said that, you can pretty much say anything you want after Like, so that's kind of what he's doing here by providing that disclaimer. So like he acknowledges that he's not an athlete. But now having said that, I'm going to criticize every single thing about these athletes. Don't

take offense. No offense, but no offense. Again, I do appreciate. I do appreciate the email. Um, will do you have initial thoughts to you? I mean to take the take the first stab at this therapeutic response, I think, and I don't want to sound like you necessarily heard this before, but you know, playing defense in the NFL is hard. It's especially hard when the player that you drafted number one first round this year to help shore up your defensive line has been struggling with a risk injury for

the last six games. It's especially hard when you have Probowl caliber players learning a new system that they have to understand, they have to get and the system requires from one part of it from a run defense part

of it. I think that there's you know, and they coaches kind of went into it a little bit more last week than he's done before, But there really are there's a lot more ways to make mistakes in this system against the run, and there has been in previous iteration of this defense because there there's more space in the middle, and guys have to make decisions at the last second and in concert with each other's decisions all

the same time. You know, when you when you're holding up a block and you have to decide am I going left or right? And you have to do it not too soon, not too late. You have to get off of it, and then the guy next to you has to get off his at the same time. I think that's Will said in a simpler way. Is it also just an adjustment going from this same system for years to now? I think I think that's kind of

where I go first. Is just this is maybe there have been some more growing pains, and we're initially anticipated in switching, and I know they were doing this a little bit before, but obviously this season we've seen more of a drastic shift than we ever have as far as how the front looks and how they're gonna operate. And I think that's been a real adjustment for guys now. I mean that seems and and guys, you know, you know, throughout training camp, throughout the beginning of the season, like

you're you're going to say the right things. You're gonna say, Hey, you know, you know that we've got this, we're learning this, We're gonna be able to succeed. And you know, as as you know, games happen in times happen. Yeah, it's taken. It's taken some time, I would say to I felt like kind of a snowball effect was happening, where you know, every defense is going to have, you know, a game

or two. It felt like for this defense when the then that game or two first started happening, especially with the run defense, over compensation really started to take place. Whereas guys and Mayor Flavortown listed this in his email, the names on the roster, I mean these are real names here. I mean we're talking Luke, Keith Lee, Jerald McCoy, Shack Thomps, and Eric Read. I mean these are Pro Bowl caliber players, some of the better players on the

defensive side in the NFL. So the talent has never really been an issue. But it seems like all these talented guys, at one point another have tried to do too much. Uh, and I think that is that has hurt this defense At times throughout the season. The run defense was better someday, it was an issue now in the past. I mean, you gotta have a guy in Calvin Ridley who had eight catches on eight targets for a D forty three yards. I mean, of course we know Julio Jones is going to do some damage. You're

never You're never gonna completely shut that guy out. And you know, Matt Ryan was pretty comfortable all day. So it's just kind of been one thing after another. Uh. Their defense has just struggled to really play that complete, that elusive complete game, and I think frustration started to set in, which led to some more issues, is what

I would say. And in defense, offense, and special teams, you know, they talk about these things is distinct kind of phases of the game, but in reality, you know, these are people and when you're out there on defense, you're feeling like you've got to get a stop, you've got to get a takeaway because you know the offense just you know, gave up a turnover in the red zone because you just had a punt return for a touchdown.

Now you're downtown nothing because of you know, you're you're trying to guard against you know, two Pro Bowl type receivers and you know a quarterback that's now ranked tenth all time in the NFL history in passing yards. Like you feel like you have to make a life. So when you go a little bit too much on one side, you try to really bite on something to make a play, well, then maybe you get beaten on the back side. Yeah, And I think then this is another line from his email,

um Ron's resumes defensive coach speaks for itself. That plus the talent on this roster leaves the defensive results on the field a bit of a mystery. And I can't argue with that. I think that's that we all came into the season thinking this defense has potential to be among the best in the NFL. Has not been among the best in the NFL this season. And I think he you know, points out, not wrongly that um that's been frustrating to watch because seemingly all the pieces are there.

I'm with you, guys, I think the bottom line and what you guys were saying, and when you look at it from the big picture, is this over correction of this defense started out really really hot this season, and you know, we're talking they're still up there in a lot of categories because of how well they started. But now in these last couple of weeks, the run defense

has been a problem. So then, you know, I think Luke Kickley has maybe tried to be the hero and he's trying to do too many things instead of just staying in the middle of the field and orchestrating where that defense is lined up. And then you finally get the run defense clicking this past week, but then your secondary struggles to be able to shut down the past I think it is this complimentary football just on the

defense that we haven't seen that, you know. I think that defensive line does hide a lot of the youth in the secondary, and when they showed up the run and they took away the run, it exposed the youth in the secondary. I think there's just the give and take of this defense. Don Terry Post said it, you know, to me last week. We haven't been playing together long, and yes, they can't use that excuse all the time, and he said, it's not an excuse. We don't take

it that way. But it seems like every game we leave saying, oh, we learned something new about us as a defense today, and whether it's a corre action that they need to make or hey, let's continue to do this. And the talking to him after the game, I said, is it a win for you guys to stop the run? And he said, sure, it's a win, But then we gave up a lot of plays in the passing games, so there's still this Ying and Yang effect that they need to figure out. I think you hit on it

with the phrase complimentary football. I think you could say that about the defense with the run in Pasty, and I think you can extend that to the entire team right now because if you look at the defensive performance against Atlanta, it was terrific early on. It was the reason Carolina was in the game, Like it could have been really bad or nothing and half completely. I mean they forced they forced three successive field goal attempts from

Atlanta with short fields. Okay, they missed one of those attempts too, so they were putting the Panthers offense in position to get back in the game at a certain point, there's only so much a defense can take before you're going you can you can only bend so much right. Eventually you're gonna break if if you're continuing to have to face short fields and you're not getting support from the offense. And I think that's kind of what happened.

So I do want to give credit to the defense for making this competitive early on and putting Caroline in position to get back in it. As we know, the offense couldn't get roleing and it never happened for the Panthers. But that defensive performance in that first half is what allowed this team to have a chance, and I think that's important to say. I just want to say I've had a breakthrough. This has nothing to do with the podcast. I've had something in my eye since game day in

the fourth quarter, and I just got it out. That's huge in this moment. I don't I don't even know what it was. Yeah, we're done. Podcast therapy is complete. I feel better and that's all that matters. You guys, imagine how annoying it is have something in your eye for days. Yeah, I don't know how you manage. I'm just saying it was on my eyelid and I finally just found it, and wow, WHOA, I feel better. All right, we can move on now, but we're gonna stick to

the defense. We had a fantastic caller. He's anonymous. He didn't want to leave his name, so we're just gonna call him the caller from Clover, From Clover, from Clover. And here is what the color from Clover had to say. I'm struggling to figure out what happened to the pass rush. They had an unreliable pass rush against Arizona in Houston, and yesterday Matt Ryan moves to the sign and was suck. Tell us how you really feel, caller from Clover. He sucked? Well, boys,

help him out. Caller from Clover. We're here to help. I think, first of all, I think the sucked is just referring to like just how much it sucked, just that he kept avoiding the pressure because the pressure was there. They kept getting Ryan off his spot. He was moving around the pocket and and that's the first thing you have to do to have success against a guy like him. You let him stand back there, he'll pick you apart. So I thought the rush was active and they had

him moving all sorts of ways. You just gotta give Matt Ryan a lot of credit for the way he played. And again, this is a former NFL m v P. This guy is good. And the Panthers did what they wanted to do. They had him moving around and he made a lot of plays on the run. And whether it was just fine he checked downs or keeping his eyes down field and finding guys open. Uh. They sacked him three times, and they had nine quarterback hits Kyle

and had ten quarterback hits against him. So you know, I'm sure we're at some point going to talk about the rush that Kyle had to deal with always hit one less match that Ryan was hit one less time. So the pass rush was very active for Carolina. But Matt veteran quarterback in this league, obviously was able to withstand that and make plays in light of the fact

that he had guys in his face all day. And as a defense, I know people don't want to hear this, especially after a game that but at a certain point you tip your cap and say, you know, especially from Carolina's D line perspective, that they got after him, you know, And and again I think that's this is this is one of those cases where a really good quarterback made really good quarterback plays And how many times did it feel like you know, almost, they're almost, they're almost there,

and then he gets the ball off just the last second, gets hit and then forty yards down the field, what like a play is made? Like what like? How? How did how did that happen? Right? You know, and you're just like you did everything you can too. You know, you almost get to him and he's like on his back foot just heaving the ball up and boom forty yards later, Julio Calvin. You know, a catch is made downfield and you know at some point you know, yeah, the past rush, you know, forced it and made him

get out there. But you've got to make a play on the ball downfield. And you know his guys made plays for him, Yeah they did, you know. I mean, I think that's that's an important part of this too, is there's a certain confidence when you're playing offensive football that comes with if you're going to take a shot and a guy makes a play for you, what that does? Burt Group and you saw that happen to Caroline offense. You know, Reggie Bonifon's dropped down the scene early in

the game. There was a chance there for a big spar play. It didn't happen. And I think that's that that was a real difference between the two days for the offenses. Where guys are on Atlanta were taking turns making plays, guys in Carolina were taking turns making mistakes. And there's there's something about this Atlanta team and this Panthers team the last four years. Man. I mean, there's seven of eight Falcons eight. We're gonna get to this next one. We're gonna lump at least my point from

this past rush too. Then this next question, I think go hand and hammer. We're talking about how Matt Ryan handled the pass rush verse, how Kyle Allen handled the past rush. So this is from Will not Greer Jones on Twitter. But although it could be Will Greers Burner account because of what was said at the end of this email, So that's still that's still out there as a possibility. We're going to follow up on that. But he starts his email with a question, which I love.

I just feel like they really set the tone for how we should be reading this email. And the question is what we asked, what am I struggling with As a Panthers fan, you ask watching Kyle Allen every week, anyone who knows what they are doing when evaluating a quarterback can tell you that he is a problem. Poor pocket awareness, poor processing, poor decision making, and his deep ball is non existent. We asked, I guess we did ask for what people were struggling with, easy Will Jones.

Here's why I want to double this up though, with the last struggle of of our of our dear friend color from Clover. The difference between I think that what you're saying of of Kyle Allen took one more hit than Matt Ryan did. There is a maturity level here. Matt Ryan, He's a proven quarterback in this league. He has seen this before. There have been two games, really, I would say this season that Kyle Allen has been pressured the way San Francisco and then this pass game

against the Falcons. I think we're the two games where you saw Kyle Allen not settle down and for good reason. Let's think about it for a second. He's getting a lot of pressure on him. He can't set his feet, he can't, you know, feel comfortable back there the offensive line. This was a new ish We've seen this, but this was Greg Little's first game back and who he was going up against with that pass rush. There were a

lot of things that were happening. I'm not going to agree with you here, will not Greer Jones that he has poor pocket awareness, poor processing. Some of his decision making was a little questionable. And you know against Atlanta and the deep bone is non existent. Here's where I want to sit on this one. This last deep ball. Jake Delon was on the call for the radio and he made a great I thought a great point about

the deep ball from Kyle Allen. What we saw from Matt Ryan was on this deep ball, he overthrew the receiver. Kyle Allen's not doing that right now. He's not just airing it out. That's what Jake was saying. Just air the ball out and see if your receiver can go make a play. What's happening right now is it looks like Kyle is just trying to complete the pass instead of overshooting it when you're in coverage like they are

deep down the field. I think that was probably to me, the most frustrating in the game against Atlanta, just because Matt Ryan was completing those passes in a game where maybe it wasn't Matt Ryan and it wasn't Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley making those connections. Maybe you don't notice it as much. But to me, I can get on board with you will not Grew Jones about the deep ball. I think it is there. You're you're against him on the deep ball. I'm saying, I understand that the deep

ball is non existent. I understand where he's coming from. In there, Here's what I would say, Kyle own is a good deep ball thrower. I mean, we saw his first start in New Orleans last year. Yeah, the guy can throw the deep ball like so to say like it's non existent, it's not true. He is capable of throwing a good deep ball right now. Obviously he's struggling, but like he's got the armed talent to do that. He's not executed. But that's where I'm sitting. I understand

where you're coming from. I don't necessarily agree with the pocket awareness and poor processing, and so I'm the decision making he was he couldn't get his feet settled against Atlanta, where I said that at halftime, we get that, let's call, let's call the Atlanta game. What it was poor decision making, poor processing, pocket awareness. Yes to all three, it was brutal. Okay, let's let's just call let's just call that what it was.

And I know a lot of people are very excited to hear me talk on this podcast this week after I kind of stumped for Kyle last week good Luck Defendant. In this time, it's like, Okay, here's my chance to kind of sit here and say that. Let's just get that out of the way, right it was. It was a particular game. It was brutal. It was brutal, greg Olson said afterwards, not pointing any figures to anybody in particular. It was a comedy of terrible football offensively. Okay, so

let's just we can all acknowledge that. But again, I will say this, which young quarterback going through his rookie NFL season is not going to struggle with pocket awareness, processing and decision making that is playing quarterback in the NFL as a rookie. I'm gonna remind you guys of a statistic and I'm not comparing Kyle to pay and Manning. I'm not doing that. Okay, So when somebody tells me

on Twitter Peyton Manning through twenty eight interceptions as a rookie. Okay, playing quarterback in the NFL is a rookie is going to involve games where you are going to look like that. Okay. So and again this is going to sound a little bit like last week or making excuses for Kyle. I don't care say what you want. I'm telling you right now that the Atlantic performance is brutal. Kyle in Green Bay had acknowledged the fact that he had a poor decision throwing that pick in the end zone. He was

going to learn from it. Unfortunate Atlanta, he made the same mistake twice and then the third time forcing the ball when he shouldn't. Look, you're gonna take your lumps in this league, and right now he's learned in the hard way, because that's two weeks in a row where it's really costs his team. But again I remind you that there is no rookie quarterback starting and again we're calling Kylo rookie because he has not even played a full season. This is this, this is what is going

into his ninth start of his career. So he's still kind of in the midway point of what would be a rookie season. Uh, and this the issues that were described again, decision making, processing, pocket awareness. It's you're gonna have to go through some bad times to get better in those areas, and Payton Manning can be the will

be the first to tell you here's one. One part of that though, is since we know there's gonna be some there's there's gonna be some bad decisions, especially when you know a team is rushing three players and they're still getting you. Let's also call that what that's what it was. I mean, there's eight guys back in coverage and you're having to bail out immediately because it all goes The defensive ends are already on you. But I want to see Kyle execute in ways where it's not

a matter of decision making. They're here, here's a guy that has this guy beat down the seam or has this guy beat deep. You've got to throw it sooner. You've got to give him a chance to make a play. He I mean, of those twenty interceptions that pay me through, how many touchdowns did he throw? We haven't really seen

Kyle getting the end zone. I mean we we we gotta see and you can tell that he's he's pressing with that, right, I mean, because clearly on a couple of those interceptions, he's trying to force the ball into the end zone, especially late in the first half, like you at least have to come away with three. Yep. I mean that that that's a point in the game where if you go into the locker room down twenty to three, then you get the ball back to start

second half. Conceivably things go right, it could be a twenty to ten football game and you're right back in it. I mean, so he And the thing about it is, if you watch Kyle's presser after the game, he knows, you know, he doesn't need to be told. He knows he's better than that, especially because this isn't this wasn't something where it was like Atlanta scheming something up to really trick the young quarterback and he couldn't really decipher

the coverage. Is he making poor decisions? You know, and that that falls on him, And again you can see it in his face afterwards. He knows as well as anybody that that's just something that he needs to be better at. He needs to keep this team in a position where he's not losing it. You know, and I think that's what he had done so well for so long when he was five and note without throwing a pick. Now a'll of a sudden, the picks have piled up

and so the loss. And it's worth noting this Atlanta defense held Drew Brees with a touchdown to the week before. This is a good that that was a good defense. And that's why I'm sitting here with Will not Grew Jones. I don't agree with the poor pocket awareness, poor processing, and poor decision making as saying that is who Kyle Allen is. I don't agree with that. I think Kyle, we've said from training camp, he has this very cool nature about him. He handles things, he can see things

on the field when he's calm. He got rattled that, you know this past Sunday, and okay, he has a young quarterback. We're calling him a rookie. He's going to deal with that every now and then. The deep ball is just something I want to see. I'm with When Jake brought that up in the broadcast, I thought, that's exactly what it is. Let let Curtis Samuel like the game the times that he has it. I think there

was one to DJ more. I want to say, against the Titans or the Jags in the corner where it was just a jump ball, he threw it up and let DJ go up and make a play, and DJ made a play. That's what I want to see more of and where I'm seeing this. The reason this might be Will Greer's burner account is because at the end of this email, he goes at least Will Greer through for seven thousand plus yards, seventy touchdowns and only twenty

picks in college, get out of here. He seems to have more potential than this undrafted free agent who got benched everywhere he is gone, ouch, dude, chow, Will not Greg Jones. I think what you're seeing out of Kyle Allen is youth. Will Greer has even more youth. Will Greer is a true rookie. He has a lot that he needs to still process, and I think the fact that he's not playing is is a good thing. Well,

I think we need to address that because I n did. Yeah, I mean that people have been people were tweeting that you could tell that was bubbling up, like but I think that just shows where we are as a fan base right now that they're that irrational, Like, I'm fine with the fan base jumping and saying, hey, we need to switch. You know, it's a valid question. That's fine. It's about U me drafted Will grew in the third round.

It's a valid question. I think right now, the Panthers, unless it was at a necessity, would like this to essentially be a red shirt year for career. I mean, they know that he needed this kind of season to learn behind the scenes and get better before throwing him into the fire. And obviously they have full confidence and belief in Kyle to kind of get them through this season. And look, it wasn't it just trying to get through the season. They were trying to get a playoff spot.

And I know this Atlanta loss is a huge hit to that. And that's part of the reason we're calling this episode group therapies, because this loss feels like it's a a massive one and it was. Again it was You're talking about a home game against a two win Falcon team who I know is much better than that record indicates. And clearly they figured something out with going to New Orleans and to Carolina and getting decisive wins.

But this loss was a punch to the gut for what this team is trying to do as far as you look for the postseason. So I get all that, but this team has chosen Kyle to be the guy this this year and they want will to learn. I mean, that's just and and that's kind of the answer to that question, and that's just what it's going to be. I'm excited to see Kyle go back to New Orleans. I am. I think this weekend that's where, like, this is one of the things that we can say he's

done this before. He has gone down to New Orleans. He has handled this situation before. Yes, a lot of things were different, but this is really one of the first times that he's done something already. So I'm just I want to see him bounce back from this. He was extremely dejected after this Atlanta game. I want to see how he rebounds from that in the type of game that he has. And I'm excited that it happens

to be in a place that he's already played. He's going to know how to get around, He's going you know, just little things like that make it better. So I understand the grievance. I appreciate the email but now we need to get back to our voices because we got a little fired up there. Guys, are we feeling are we feel? Is everyone out there feeling like we were able? I think that's part. I think that's part of the

theraputic experience, though. It's the kind of a release of that and then to kind of like come back and we've kind of gotten it out of our system. Let's

get the music back on. Isn't that nice? Just very relaxed here at the end of this podcast, and before we go, we have something for you out there, and this is going to blow your mind, but not only how random it is, but really how how much you're about to learn about a certain song that everyone probably knows the first verse really well, but it's these these second, third, and fourth verses that I think are really good, just

going to turn turn your week around. So to end this group therapy session, well, I would like for you to teach us the rest of the thumb War song one, two, three four I had declare a thumb more five six, seven, eight finger guns per lift for right nine, ten, eleven, twelve, digits can't protect themselves thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen Thumb you in won't intervene. I don't know what it ends with really wanted to go to fifteen. Then the next line was,

I don't want to play with you anymore. Oh, no, we don't like that. I know. Last week it was the rapping episode. Wh can you wrap that? That for us? No? That was that was? That was it? Have you guys seen him do the actual finger guns when he doesn't? Ye, that's pretty yeah, finger guns for right? That So sorry that this is only an audio piece out there, but just just picture panther stack guy with digits. I don't even know how that became a thing. But yeah, so

you're welcome. We need to have like a bonus pre show episode, like a mash up of all our apprecious I mean, let's let's retrace our steps. How did this happen? You start? You just started singing the thumb War song randomly, right, I don't know why we're doing a check. Oh that's what I was doing my my check and you said one to three, four, and then I said, and then I said, we didn't know what it was until Wikipedia, and you can't then you into the internet. It's Wikipedia.

So maybe someone changed that last line and that's why it doesn't really work with fifteen. I don't know, because Wikipedia you can do whatever you want on there. You can just change anything. But I still like it. One to three four, I declare a thumb war anyone out there, you know the versus you say it now? Five, six, seven, eight finger guns flift for eight. It's so good, it's so good. We hope that that ended this therapy session on a high note and it leaves you feeling ready

for New Orleans because this is not going to be easy. Guys. Hey, thumbs up, guys, that's all I have to say after this episode. Well, get your thumbs ready. We'll oh he's got he's got his pointer finger and thumb up in the finger guns. You're gonna be ruditute shooting then New Orleans, Texas tech red Raider right now. Oh goodness. Well, guys, that was the group therapy. We hope you feel relaxed. We hope you feel enlightened with a new song to share with all of your co workers and all of

your friends. And we will see you. Um well, we actually won't see you, but we will talk to you. Actually,