The Group Chat Episode 19: Group Therapy

think it's a grandmama. And we have this and so much more on this week's the group Chat. You've been added to the group chat with your friends Caroline, can, Max Sensen, and Will Brian the group Chat this week. I already feel like it has a different vibe. It feels different in here because are remember here is frustrated. Max looks a little vibe. You look a little it's intense,

look a little angry. Maybe the rap music, you know, it was getting you in the mood here to get you ready to some some game time here we do we need to have a therapy session. That was bad. That was bad? Okay, do you want to do over? Can I do that again? Do not cut that from the final Oh god, I'm not doing it again. Okay, you're just gonna live with that one. I've done it better, but I'm not going to try it again because then if I did it bad twice, then you only get

one shot. Yeah, that's true. You can make a way one opportunity. Yeah that should be in a song. All right, you may have just redeemed yourself there. We are going to get to some embarrassing rap rhymes that we have written ourselves. But first we have to address something because when when I remember of the team is hurt or frustrated or I'm not sure what's going on in Max's world right now, but I can feel the tension. We need to talk about it. Somting Max, how are you doing?

I'm fine. We've talked about, um, Twitter being a dark place before on this show, I believe, and unfortunately, Uh, it's a large part of what I have to do on a daily basis beyond there and then obviously we're

sharing news and stories everything milestone um. But yeah, I mean, I just have to say I'm very frustrated at the moment with the reaction to Kyle Allen's performance, and they're being from a not everybody, but from a certainly a vocal segment of the Twitter verse out there that just immediately wants to compare everything he does to Cam Newton and and really tear down Kyle in the process, when from my vantage point, and I know from the vantage point of the guys that Kyle is playing with, the

guy has done everything he possibly can to keep this team alive. I mean, to try to salvage a season. I mean, how many teams, if you were to say we're gonna lose their starting quarterback after Week two, are still sitting here in the fight for a playoffs? But

I don't I don't think very many. But Kyle, who has only lost two career games, one of them being at lambeau Field in the snow against Aaron Rodgers and the other two a team that just lost his first game the season, the Sancisco for Niners, I feel like is under such heavy scrutiny after every incompletion, after every mistake, and I just don't and maybe you guys can help me understand, I just don't understand why he's being held

to this sort of impossible standard. And for me, like look I was, I've always been a big Camp supporter throughout his time, and he's taken a lot of heat throughout his career. But Cam Newton was not a perfect quarterback. No one is Aaron Rodgers. But the week ago had a hundred sixty one passing yards and a loss to the Chargers. He is the gold standard of the quarterback position. These these guys are not perfect. Why were we expecting

Kyle Allen to be perfect? And why can't we acknowledge that the guy who was never supposed to be here as an undrafted quarterback who was benched twice in his college career, he's done nothing but overcome all of that and earned his way onto this team and into the lineup. And for what I'm seeing, his not a reason this team is losing, but a reason that this team has been fairly competitive of late. Do do people remember how the record of Cam when he started his first ten games,

Cam started two and eight. We're not talking Kyle, and we're not talking about a guy who's been around for several years. We're talking about, essentially a guy who hasn't completed a full season of sixteen games. It wasn't drafted, and look, the fumbled snap a huge mistake, very costly. The interception in the end zone another one. Kyle owns up to that, but I don't understand why, Like, if we're going to expect him not to make any mistakes, then I just don't. I don't think it's a sensible,

rational way to look at this. I mean, this is a guy that you know is going to be making some he's still learning and growing as a young quarterback in this league. But why can't if you're a Panther fan, get behind him and support him through that instead of this having to be a constant. Well, when he makes a mistake, now it's oh, well, you know that wouldn't this wouldn't have happened with Cam or if we have Cam, he runs it in on that two point conversion. They're

not They're not the same quarterback. They're never going to be close to the same quarterback with their strengths and weaknesses. So I'm just very frustrated with the fact that it seems like we can't get away from doing this, especially in from what I see in the in the Twitter verse. And I get that people are blaming the media, largely because this is I feel a media narrative that's can verse Kyle and people want to make a decision right now, is to what the future is gonna look like for

this team. I think we got it. What was a Good Morning Football who just at a recent segment of whether Kyle Allen is the future of this team? And I get that that could be a fresh source of frustration for people who love Cam Newton, and I just think we have the power to kind of make our own decisions and we can watch this team however we

choose to. And if I were a Panther fan, I would watch this team which is five and four right now, trying to beat Atlanta next week and remain in the playoff hunt, and get behind the quarterback who's giving you everything he's got and I don't think he's letting you down. I mean, if you expect flawless from Kyle Allen, then I don't know what to tell you. But I think he's what he's done right now as what six and two as a starter in this league is he's giving

you a chance. And we talk all offseason about wanting to see real football games, and we've got them here and these games count, you know, like they're in it. Uh, and so that's that that's that's been frustrating for me to watch this continued unfold because it just doesn't doesn't seem fair, doesn't seem sensible to me either. You know, who needs to come on here, seriously, listen, that's just the prerecorsite the Southern Mama coming on here. I'll say

this about the Kyle Allen Cam Newton comparison. I think it's lazy because as comparing Kyle Allen and Cam Newton is very easy to do. Kyle Allen is closer to a Daniel Jones and Eli Manning esque type of quarterback in his presence in the way that you know, they're making fun of Daniel Jones coming with a book bag on like he's coming out of his like freshman orientation

at college. And I think that is more toward the Kyle Allen, whereas Cam Newton is very big personality, always running up, you know, to cameras and and and the kids and wanting that spotlight. And that's who Cam Newton is and that's why people have grown to love him. And he has this superman esque personality about him and Kyle just doesn't. That's not Kyle. He's you know, not that huge personality outside of the locker room. He's not going to be running out of the tunnel with his

hands out like he's flying. That's just not going to be Kyle Allen. So when people jump on Twitter and compare the two, I just roll my eyes, like, stop being lazy. If you want to compare them based off of actual stats in the way that they're playing in the game and what they're doing, you don't have an argument. There is nothing there for you to do. So I think people are just getting called up in who Cam Newton is as a person. And we all love Cam Newton.

He's done such amazing things for this organization and we are by no means saying that that's done. But it's just stop being lazy in this argument and comparing the two, because it is very easy to put the two of them up against each other and see their differences. And I just ever, I've I've yet to read a anything whether it's on you know here, it on TV, or read anything on Twitter that I'm like, you know what,

that's a good point. I found a couple a couple of people came out because guy was getting getting into some back and force with people about this a little bit, and there was there were those I was like, oh, Okay, finally someone who I think gets it, because again, I think the frustration is not so much what's happening right now. It's the looking into the future, right It's the the hardcore Cam Newton fan out there is so you know, I guess uneasy afraid about this idea that the Cam

Newton era might be over. And I think so, now Kyle then becomes the face of this demise and and look like I know that, Like that's something that's going on out there in the media. This is a discussion that's happening, and I think people are frustrated by that, and then they sort of take it out as they're watching the game. And so like then when I say something about Kyle Allen performing well, then it becomes well, I don't I don't want that to happen because I

want to see Cam come back into the fold. And so like that's sort of what's happening here. But no one's a bigger support of Kyle, the Cam Newton you know, this whole team. And again it's like months from now, we can have this discussion and this team will have discussions about what they're gonna do for the future, and they're going to take that necessary time before they have it. Right now, this team is trying to be in Atlanta.

That's like, that's the that's the reality of the situation is you're in the middle of the season and you're fighting for a playoff spot, and Kyle Allen's the quarterback, whether whether you like that or not, Like Cam's not coming back, I mean, he's on I R I mean he's not going back for the rest of the regular season. So this team has no choice but to get behind Kyle, and I wish that everybody could sort of take that same approach, but that doesn't seem to be something that's possible.

I will I will say this in terms of the fans that are mad, quote unquote mad at the media, I think for the most case, it's overblown, except when you know we were were technically part of this. You know, we we write, we write articles on Panthers dot com, we tweet, We know that when you put Cam Newton

in the headline, more people click on it. And it's gotten to a point now where every Saturday night, every Sunday morning, these morning shows, all of the morning news cycle is an update that's not an update like they are literally they're coming out with a new report, a new something of guess what, Camp's probably not going to play for the Panthers next year and it and it literally is like we're playing the Packers. He's been on he's he's on I R, he's still on IR. Nothing's changed. Literally,

nothing has changed. But we're gonna do it again. You know what's next week going to be? We're gonna do it again and I do it. You know, there is you know, that sense of like people being triggered by this and they should, you know, maybe not be triggered by it. You know, I'll grant that, but it does kind of feel like there's just this feeding of you know, the media needs the clicks, you know, they kind of want to keep making that story be the story is Cam done? Is Cam done? Is Cam done? And when

they're keeping there's no new news, there's nothing new. They're still just saying that what they said last week. And when Kyle does well, it seems like it's, oh, well, Kyle's it, He's got it well and then more years of Kyle Allen. Yeah, and then and so then of course that's going to rouse some people up who may not want to see that. And then when he makes a mistake, which I think is what really freshman is freshman,

it's then proves that he's not the guy. And we're looking at a young quarterback who just went up to

lambeau Field in the snow against Aaron Rodgers. And if you if you watch that last drive and don't have some sort of appreciation for the effort that went into that, and I know it wasn't flawless, but that's just that's kind of sad to me that, like, he goes up there against that team in those conditions and there's people who want to jump on him for kind of scrambling for his life at times and not being able to

string some completions together. They get down to all the way to the two yard line, Christian comes up just inches short. I mean, that's that's a valiant effort. And if you if you don't feel that way, then I just we'll we'll never see eye eye because that's that's to me, the only way you can look at that.

And people want to say you know some of the plays, you know, near interceptions, Aaron are just through in near interception Shack Thompson lay in that game, you know, I mean, like these guys the quarterback play in the NFL, watching Russell Wilson and leading m v P Cannon against San Francisco for it and on it. So it's a horrible interception, like overtime, whether they're sending up position to win the the expectation that Kyle has to be perfect somehow is

really what I think. That's the real source of my frustration is that, um, what we're expecting of this kid, at least some people out there. I just I just don't think. I just don't think it's fair. And we're talking about a Panther's team and the reason why they didn't win in Green Bay. If we're gonna put that all on Kyle Allen, please, Aaron Jones yard rushing, three touchdowns in the ground Packers rack up a hundred sixty

six yards per carry. I mean, there are other things we can look at as the reason why Carolina did not come out victorious in that game. It's not always just don Kyle. I know, its quarterback driven league, but it seems to be that that's always where the attention is going. They lose a game, it's because Kyle and if if they would have had a healthy Cam Newton, And if they win a game, it's because of Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, you know, like when they why can't Kyle and Christian

both contribute to win? You know? But that's just not the way I think a lot of us want to look at things. I don't know. I kind of just got me right now. You're ready to go. He's about ready to jump over the table. Can keep going for a while, but we can. We can. Bottom line is, no, you're not wrong. The bottom line is you can say that Kyle Allen is a good quarterback without saying that Cam Newton is a bad quarterback. And I think the

first I think that's that's what it is. I see this a lot in female reporters, and it's probably the same with male reporters too. I'm just a female one, so that's all I know. But people on Twitter will say, oh, I thought this reporter was good until this reporter. It's like, maybe they're both good. Like you see this a louder like, oh I thought she was pretty until this girl came along. It's like maybe they're both pretty Like there's just there

are things that can exist together. And I think that's what is happening here with this quarterback situation. Is good A job on Marty for having someone on this roster that he thought and the coaches thought and everyone thought could actually back up Cam Newton and not just be a roster you know, spot, And that's what you've got.

So I kind of love that people get riled up a little bit just because it is this has been a long time with Cam Newton at quarterback, and so it is good that they're invested in what this team has been and may continue to. But Kyle Island is making a dang good run here being a starter in this league, whether that's for the Carolina Panthers or he ends up being trade bait if Cam Newton comes back,

and all of those things. So just tight there and don't say anything that we will screenshot and later bring up to you on Twitter. Be careful out there. My last thing, I know everyone like everyone loves Cam Newton. I mean, we've enjoyed watching him. He's obviously transformed this franchise. He Kyle on his quarterback right now, and I think we can appreciate and if the fans out there love Am Newton while also rooting for Kyle Allen right now, I think you can do that. I don't think you

have to choose one or the other. And that's just what I would hope to see happen as the season goes on. That's all. That's all I ask. You don't have to think Kyle Allen is it is getting the bus ready for him in the Hall of Fame. You don't. You don't have to think that. But if you're a Panther fan, you can pull for Kyle Allen this team to continue to win games while also being a big Cam Newton supporter. I think you can do that. You can have your cake and eat it too. Boy, Glad

we got that off our chest. You know, I feel better. I don't know if Max okay, I think I do. Thank you for coming to therapy. Everyone that was really the group chat has turned to group therapy, and that was therapeutic for us. Max. Max literally walked in was like, I can't wait for the group chat this week. I've got something. I was impressive. I believe we went about twenty minutes there. So if you were still with us,

thank you. Then if you're all riled up in your car now on Matt and taking a Twitter, thank you, it's Panthers. Max tweet at him, all right, we are going to get to this Atlanta game though, the Falcons coming to town off of a big win. Who expected the Falcons to be the Saint? Come on, we'll just raising his hand? Did not? Yeah, I was in the press box and I said, I really hope the Falcons beat this. I really hope they play well. I hope

is different, but they are Listen, the Falcons didn't. It was one of those games where I heard the final score and didn't believe that it was the final score. How much time has left there? Like, no, the game's over? Oh okay, great? So what this does? It sets the NFC South even more ablaze? So what's going to happen? So a week ago, if our listeners remember, I said three of our ten things that the Panthers need to do, one of which was when the coin toss, I said

they need to pick Hales tails. They didn't do it. I don't think Hales is an option. Hales is at an option might have been hales on but how many times? Has how many times in school did you like try and draw like and A that could also look like a B. So you know, what if what if you said hales and they're like, no, it was it was tails? I said, yeah, I said that. I said that's what they were trying to do. Yeah, but yeah, no, they got it wrong again and Green Bay came down and

scored opening drive a second half. I don't think that's insignificant that there were one in eight on coin tosses this year, and then the flags, the penalties that I mentioned, those were big and and honestly, I think after the recent results of the weekend, I still think the best path to the playoffs is through New Orleans. I mean, Minnesota, Seattle, they I mean they look good. Like these wild card spots are are going to be tough to get. I

think it's through New Orleans. It is certainly it just the NFC South is is definitely more interesting now. But that NFC wild card spot is just fascinating. So what we're going to do to embarrass ourselves this week is become rappers. Because Atlanta, if you are not aware, is home to Gucci may ludicrous one Savage who else? So whenever, whenever we played in Atlanta, I would always be the guy on the bus like blasting Welcome to Atlanta, where the players play in the right I don't know, things

like every day. Yeah, I would listening to like two thousand one Germaine du Prix because that is peak will that's I'm so on brand with that. And then Amy would hear it from across the aisle and just like lose your crap to yourself. You wouldn't even play it out loud as like a like a joke. No, no, it's it's like it's like on my my great Bows headphones sponsor. Okay, wow, well, well you have to go first. Then I'm not at all prepared for this cement, by

the way, I was preparing for my soapbox segment. Yeah, no, I was. I was just prepared to do Welcome to Atlanta, where the play playing at things like every day. We're leaning on Caroline for this one. I think, Oh man, I did. I did make up something on the elevator. Ok. When it was not good, it's not good. It's also on brand. Okay, Well, oh, I guess I'm going first, and we're gonna share it or now it was something about Alex Arma. Alex Arma was gonna whip out on

your grandma. Yeah, it's pretty bad. I think it's a grandmama, and then says Armas from like near Atlanta. Are we trying to try to rhyme? I don't know, like Arma, it's hard to have wold you rhyme with Alex Arma? Why do you Alex Arma? I don't know, because I feel like Alex Armas from Georgia and he needs a big game. We need more Alex Arma in our lives. And no one told you you had to rhyme something with Alex arms Did you know he's actually now Alex

Armor Jr? Okay, well, then Ryan's on the junior. What are you going to round with? JR? I don't know. Think about it while I'm doing it, all right. So here's here's what I came up with. This is going to be embarrassing. I'm not I actually announced in office if anyone was good at freestyle? Is anybody? No one? Yeah? I thought I thought Connor might have said he might have been. No. So here's my first one. Oh gosh, all right, the Panthers have home field advantage against the

dirty Birds. See if we can get some things to bounce our way, unlike against that team that likes cheese kurts, dirty Birds and cheese Cats. Yeah, because of those penalties that you mentioned, I thought the penalty against Jerald McCoy for roughing the passer was a shift in the game. I think I think that moment lost the game for the for the Panthers. It was a huge third down and there were other things. There were certainly other things,

but I thought that was the cherry on top. I see your third and thirteen roughing the past recall, and I will raise you the second and yard completion to Adams that one because as I remember, Jerome mccoin makes a huge stop when they as time expires. Stay in the first half, Caroline is going into the locker room, all sorts of momentum, feeling great. It's a four point game.

Then they come out start the second half. They got him back second and twenty six, like Green Bays on nine yard line and the thirty eight yards later Damante Adams and then Package going on score and I was like, if you know they come up with a stop there, they're gonna get the ball back in pretty good field position potentially take the lead, and that one, to me,

felt like the true just got punched. I think if that that third down, they would have had to punt the ball fortastic field position to have the ball going into how I think that that, to me is just when the sideline felt like it shifted. Everything just felt wrong. After that, everyone was so mad, and it's so scary when you start getting mad at the refs, Panther fans and Jerome bog Boger. That is not I I lost it a little bit. Someone made a really funny graphic.

Although listen, we talked about Panther fans on Twitter, green Bay Packer fans not from Green Bay. Okay, if you're from Green Bay, I like you as a Packers fan. The ones on Twitter not from Green Bay are I can't say the word of what they are. They're so mean. They were so mean, okay one of them, although he did he made a graphic. I posted a video of Luke's celebrating after the big JEMALCOI stop. They just went in for like no reason of like, oh oh what

was the score? Crene like no crap dip, like no, like I was there I was not watching on TV from my couch like you were, Like I was there. I know what the score is, but we did not have a good night. On Twitter that I listen up, we just woke up on the wrong side of the bed today and you're getting it all here on the

group therapy um. But one guy posted a graphic of the like Green Bay Path crackers, and it was this cartoon like a Panthers fan then took that graphic and added refs to it and said, you can't win without the whole team. This like the Packers, Like Packers players are celebrating in the end zone, and then they photoshopped like the refs into it where they refted the Lambeau leap. I saw the one where the ref had a cheesehead as he was singling first down. There were there were

a lot to choose from. People did a really good job. It was this one where they're like on a train and then and it's like one that the Packers made, and then a guy responded and put the ref off to the side of the train. I saw. I saw the one where it was like after they got to take away and like all these guys posed now for the time, and so then they added some refs, Well, what do you think about Aaron Rodgers saying he was glad that he finally got a call. It's it's so

Aaron Rodgers, Like that's that is Aaron Rodgers. I'm glad. I thought it was awesome about twisting the knife, but I thought it was awesome after the game that, like him, Gerald had the moment that they had, like and on the play where Gerald completely took away their dreams of scoring, like Aaron's face was like, all right, that was pretty good. Like his face gave some respect to McCoy. That's that

was surprising. And in looking at the photos of the rough and pastor penalty, it sure looks to me like Aaron Rodgers is kind of saying without saying to Gerald McCoy, like, yeah, I got one there, sorry, come on that. The worst was the slow mo on the broadcast of Aaron catching the flags, just like yes, yeakes, all right, I have another one that's really embarrassing. Oh yeah, So in this one, I was really stuck on rhyming the two words that I chose, So I'm not it's almost like arma and grandma.

But it's a little bit better than I like this matchup for the Thieves and Stack Street Boys. Send the dirty Birds home drinking their lacroise. Okay, drop, I really wanted to rhyme boys with the roys. That's a really good rhyme. Yeah, but I don't like, Wait a minute, so what are they what are they doing it? They're going home drinking their lacroise. Yeah, it's in the dirty words home drinking their lacroise. They're negative twelve in the turnover.

So that's why I chose the thieves and Panthers win. I think we're gonna need a photoshoped image of like Matt Ryan, I'll drop this these bars on Twitter with a good graphic of only the group chat fans will know what it means. The groupies the group piece now and then I have another one, but it's not I didn't finish riding the rhyme. But the Panthers must fix their run defense if they want to get over the

NFC wild card fits. I mean, that's a major fact, right there's That might be my best one, but I was I was a little That was the last minute one that I just kind of threw down, like no, but that was a. You're striking a chord there with their lacroise and defense and run defense. Just Max you you wrote a little bit about that yesterday. How do

you feel that the team's approach to fixing it. Yeah, We'll look, they've played nine games, so like we've got a large enough sample size to now say like, okay, something's going on with the run defense, right, And you know you helped me pull up the numbers. Over Ron's tenure, they've overall been ninth in the NFL and run defense from two thousand eleven, three or four years with their top five I mean they've been number two in the NFL on year three six. What I mean like, they've

historically been a very very good run defense. The scheme, of course, changed this year. I think everyone's kind of wondering how that may have played a role in what we're seeing right now. Ron continues to say it it's

a gap scheme. It's all about a gap accountability. But on Monday, when he kind of elaborated a little bit more, he made it pretty clear it was like, look, coaches, players, we've got to get together and there's no magic fix, but there has to be a fix some somewhere or another, because we all know into November and December, and especially with what you know, teams are gonna do game planning for this defense. They're going to get a heavy dose of the run and they're going to have to prove

that they can stop it. And and until it improves, they're just putting themselves in there behind the eight ball. If you cannot stop the run, if teams are gonna get five six yards to carry, it's really really hard to play defense in the NFL. You know, That's and that's just the bottom line. So there's certainly between Luke, Shack, McCoy Dantari at us. I mean, the guys are there, you know, and I think that's what the players believe, is that there's pieces are in place. They just got

to do it. And I don't know what really more else can be said until they just produce. This is gonna be a thing that they're gonna continue have to answer questions about. And I mean Aaron Jones was the latest. I mean, it's not just the rushing yards. They're allowing more rushing touchdowns than anybody in the NFL by why margin. So they're leading to scores and three players with multiple rushing touchdowns against them. I mean there was there was

once a time when they went two years with nobody rushing. Yeah, remember that street. I mean, my goodness. So. And the thing, the real thing about it too, that I think it goes a little bit unnoticed or overlooked, is this team's obvious strength defensively is rushing the pastor you can't rush the pastor if you can't stop the run. So they can't even really get to their greatest strength if they're not able to get that first thing done, which is

stop in the run. If if teams are in third and manageable second and three, you can't pin your ears back. You need to be in third and nine, third and eleven, and that's when you can kind of release the hounds and get after them. So it's it's kind of it's a trickle down effect that happens when you can't stop the run. And look, we can talk about it all we want. As Ron said after the game, talk means nothing, and it's it's it's not enough to just talk about it.

And you know that locker room is well aware. And we'll see if they can turn around starting with Atlanta, thankfully, all that we get to do is talk about it. We don't we don't don't have to put the past. We don't have to put We'll be here talking about it. We still get to talk about it. All right, Let's do our favorite segment, new segment that will gave us such a great intro song too, that's my favorite part. Yeah, it is a light of the week, one of the week,

Light of the week, Light of the week. You got a really high pitch there at the end, and then I try to get try to get up there voice training. It's nice, okay. Alan of the Week this week comes courtesee if tight end, Greg Olson, who is notorious for giving us good lines. This is after the defeat at lambeau Field and the frozen tun trat to the Packers been talking about quarterback hollow quote what he did against that defense with that front front pinning their ears back,

knowing we had to throw the ball. We all saw the conditions in the weather, down fourteen the fourth quarter

to lead us down the field was pretty incredible. I honestly thought what he did tonight overall, and of course that fourth quarter was impressive a quarterback display as I've ever seen all pro veteran tight end Greg Olson, who has seen a lot of quarterback play throughout his career, talking about what Kyle Allen did against the Packers, and he's just saying it's not he doesn't just give out praise.

He does not just to give it out. If there's anybody in that locker room who tells it how it is when when lost draw, whatever the case, maybe it's Greg Olson. He's not a blowing smoke kind of guy. So take that Twitter trolls. I'm just gonna leave that. Leave that out there that we started this fitting Kyle Island, will end it fitting Kyle Allen. And we talked about the run defense. We're on brand today, guys, very on brand. This was this was I think you feel better now

right there, Like this is a happy mack. I just kind of want to crack upen to Lacroix and just relax a little bit and lot the proise on the mind. But the leek roise, I I'm happy you feel better, Like that's what we needed to make you feel better. Is just knowing that Greg Olson had your back. That does make me feel a lot better. Yeah, I think it does, that does, but it know it really is is knowing that you guys had my back always. That's always,

we're in this together. Even producer Matt it's nodding along. He's got our back. He's in Thanks, buddy. Well that was the group chat today. I feel better. I feel like this therapy session really helped me. I was having a little slow start to the day Tuesday when we tape these, it's raining outside today. Your rhymes were so good. You think I have something here? Should I keep pursuing it? Just drop a couple of bars. I'm just kidding. I will say all of you and never do that. Although um,

I'm glad that I came up with three. What I should have done is just passed these out to you guys so that you could have had your own. But I didn't do that. I took all credit for my dirty Birds, Cheese, Kurds, Sax Street Boys, and Lacroise. Lacroix. That's money. I'm going to ask for a graphic. I think Daniel could make me a Lacroix. And now, if there was ever a reason for the Pants to win a football game, it's so we can use a Lacroix graphics.

That is certainly the case, well, it's not going to be easy though, the Panthers of course, taking on the Atlanta Falcons coming off the big win against the New Orleans Saints, making the NFC South and the NFC just in general absolutely crazy. So stay tuned, will keep you all updated with everything going on Panthers, and I bet next week we talked about the run defense, we'll see all been