Happy Half Hour Episode 48: The Wofford Panthers

questions asked when they were in Spartanburg. We were like, yeah, absolutely, this is the best defense in the NFL, no question. It's been I mean it's been alarming, and it was kind of funny this week to hear Rule talk about, you know, I want to stay the Watford Panthers. I want to stay that team that nobody believed in. They would love to latch onto. Nobody thinks we're any good, but and listen, there are questions to be asked, but they're pretty good and it's not an accident. They're playing

incredible defense right now. They lead to league in every meaningful defensive category other than points allowed, and that's only by a couple because Denver's also you know, off to a hot start. But yeah, it's just it's been eye opening, it's been impressive, and it's been collective. I mean, it's everything a football coach wants in a team because everybody's got a hand in it and they're playing at a high level. Well, if he wants people to not believe, and I'm I'm happy to do it again. I did

it last week and it worked out pretty well. I can just keep rolling on with all the reasons why they they're awful. It's just speak it out into the year. It's not only taking credit for you know, a superstition of something he did last week that works. It's also not complementary of the team. Like, yeah, you want me to talk about how awful it is, like I will totally, I will totally not believe in them for for them, and I will say this. I it's funny to like,

look at Panthers Twitter. I mean, not like the actual Panthers, but people that talk about the Panthers, and you know, each day it's a new here's some random graphic that wasn't attributed to anything that said the Panthers are in the fourth tier of average defenses. You know, they're like, I'm so mad about this. It's like, where does that even come from? And who cares? Like I can tell you where they rank their first period. That's that. No,

no graphic on Twitter can change that. But I think the cool thing about the NFL that we're starting to become part of that again, just like they were in is there's nothing that is recorded outside of my power rankings, which come out Tuesday morning Panthers dot com. Please click

on them. There's nothing that's actually meaningful. There's no a p top twenty five pole that you're number five, you know, four weeks in a row, which leads to something in some sort of you know FC you know rankings or like, no, none of it matters. All that matters is the standings. Like that's all the NFL is is just the standings. There's no polling, there's no voting of who gets to play who at the end of the year. There's no you know, how well did this wind look or not look?

There's no none of that matters. It's just the standings. And and that's a kind of a simple, cool, easy thing. And all the stuff that people say are just what people say. The only thing the NFL is better at than making money and creating television ratings, is creating conversation. And by playing once a week, there's another six days a week that have to get filled up. So now they're filled up with Are the Carolina Panthers for real? Can you trust the Carolina Panthers? Is this the real sounds?

Are they? You know? I mean in all this stuff. But to Will's point, none of the stuff actually matters because that they have strung together three straight one in a weeks. And I love what Dante Jackson said in his press conference earlier this week, and it is a sentiment that we've heard plenty of times, but just the

way he just has a way of putting things. As you guys know, d jack Um, he said, you know, I don't Someone asked him about all of the outside noise, and of course all of the players and coaches are gonna say, ye, we don't pay attention to it. It doesn't matter. As you said, Darren uh coach rules said, you know, I want to. I like it. I like the Wafford Panthers mentality when no one knew what to expect, but Dante said, he said, you know, I just that

that stuff doesn't enter my day. You know whatever, someone says that hasn't seen us practice, like I'm just not concerned about it, and you know, I've even noticed that. So this this person said this about this team, and I'm like, well, you've seen them on TV, like that's about it. That's that's really about it. And well, you're right, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. But there is this kind of national conversation around is this three you know, quote unquote for real or is

it not? Do you think that this conversation would be happening if the rash of injuries in the Thursday night game did not happen, because I know that's a contributing factor. I think it still would be probably almost certainly in every year the NFL creates one of these. And listen, Denver I mentioned earlier, Denver is getting caught in the same conversation. It's like, how good are the Bronco's really?

Who cares? They've beaten the three teams they've had to play. Um, I think it it would still be happening even if Christian McCaffrey was healthy, even if J. C. Horne was healthy. Um. But obviously that opened the door to a lot of that, But the reality is down here in Mayberry, in our small, little southern town where nobody ever comes except the Rolling Stones. Um Darren is wearing since since no one can see this, Darren is wearing his Rolling Stones shirt because the concert

is happening. If you're listening, maybe after the fact. The concert is happening at Bank of America Stadium tonight. Darren is already an accountdown. How many hours until everything kicks off? Until until I start preparing wisconser not that man, Until Darren starts warming up. Consent trading today is going to be pretty difficult, there's no lie, because it's We've been walking around the stadium all week and the stadium has been taken over by other people. But um, yeah, what

were you talking about? I have no idea. I'm this is my day, you know, the other the other week, I was completely distracted by uh short week and game on Thursday and what day it is today, I'm totally distracted by feels like yesterday and also as but I mean I I also I don't like the simplicity that and you know again it's ratings we're talking blah blah blah, but that this weekend will tell you everything you need

to know about the Carolina Panthers. There's so many lines of these UH analyzes that are saying this weekend will tell us what we need to know. Now they're playing a team. It's like, as you said, now it's it doesn't it's week It's still only week four. They can lose and that doesn't mean anything. They could beat the Cowboys and then lose to the Eagles and it's like, oh no, that was didn't mean anything, and like, now

you've got the whole season. I do think I mean to kind of go along with the narrative little bit. I mean, this is the toughest test they've had. This is obviously the most difficult opponent they've faced um over the course of this season. And the way they match up, I mean, because Dallas can spread you out offensively, because they have a ton of skill position talent, and because all of a sudden your secondaries full of injuries and guys who aren't there anymore and you're changing tires on

a moving car. It's reasonable to say, yes, this is the tough one for the Carolina Panthers. This is where you'll fight well. It will learn things about the Carolina Panthers for sure this weekend, but again because it creates national conversation. Every week turns into a referendum on and it's the Cowboys. You know, anything involving the Cowboys is

a national everything. That's just what it is. Well, let's talk about this game in terms of of the injuries that happened in the Thursday night game and and what we think we'll see on Sunday that might look different from what we've seen in the first three weeks. During you mentioned the secondary, So let's start there. Both j C. Horn and Justin Burris will not be there, right and j C won't be there for most of the regular season,

if not all of the regular season. I mean broken foot surgery that's probably a two or three month thing. And Justin Burros even though it's not even though it kind of is in the shadow of j. C. Horn. I mean, listen, in any other setting, losing j C. Horne is a disaster because that guy is great at football. I mean, he has come in in three weeks and proven himself already to be on the verge of being one of those corners that you just don't grow. I

think one of the biggest compliments that I've heard. I've said it a couple of times, and then when Matt Rules said it to me, I was like, oh, okay, I'm glad. I'm glad that I'm not the only one. Matt Rules like, I forget he's a rookie, and that's I mean, I don't think there's a bigger like there's there's Matt was like, he's a football guy compliment, and then there's like, I forget he's a rookie. And I think that those are like the two biggest in season

compliments that that Matt Rule will give out. And I think it's true. Yeah. And and when I was talking to Phil Snow last week for the big Phil Snow profile that we did on Panthers dot com and you should definitely read only if you're up at five thirty in the morning, when Darren tweeted it because that's when Phil Snow lives waight at five am because he's a football guy. Um, but Phil said something along the same lines.

He's like with j C, I kind of forget he's there sometimes because the ball is not going to that side. And I mean that's the ultimate sign of respect from opponents since they're not gonna try him, And you know, losing one of those guys changes everything you can do as a defense, and they're also doing it without their starting safety and Justin Burrows. They had already lost Miles Hartsfield, who was playing nickel for him in the opener. So, I mean, and a J boy A comes in this week.

He's new. We thought he was going to get back in last week, but as it turns out, practicing one time in about seven weeks is not ideal preparation for your first game of the season. So but this week AJ is back on the field, and Dante is going to be out there, and Rashaun Melvin is a full time member of the fifty three again after being around all training camp and being promoted from the practice squad

in the last couple of weeks. And and oh, by the way, they traded for a top ten pick and C. J. Henderson um and don't know how much he'll play this week, Maybe not a lot. But there's a lot of stuff going on For a team that talks about the standard is the standard, and we expect everything to just keep continuing down the same path. It is such a bummer, I mean, individually, of course for for anyone who's injured UM,

but also that secondary. After last season, they put in a lot of work to really get it in a good place, have depth, and it was exciting. It was one of the most exciting position groups coming into the season. So it is a bummer to see, as you said, with three significant guys that at this point not to be able to to be out on the field. Do you feel comfortable going into this game about where the depth is. I think I feel you know, the C

J Henderson trade a J boy coming back. He's he's really been someone that of course we haven't gotten to see a lot of and certainly the fans haven't gotten to see a lot of UM because he couldn't practice. We saw him in the off season. But he's someone that I know j C looks up to. I mean, he's he's been able to perform in the NFL at a high level for for years. I feel pretty good

about it. And then Dante is making plays left and right on on that other side, so I think it's not you say, you lose two starters in one game out of the secondary. I feel like they're gonna find a way to adjust and as you said, the standard is the standard. I feel okay about the secondary going into this game. You know, if J. C. Horne had never happened, if he never entered our lives here in Charlotte, this secondary would still be light years a head of

where it was last year. I mean, last year, you're pulling guys off the street. Congratulations, great to meet you. You're starting Sunday. Um. Now they've at least got Dante Jackson, who is playing so much better this year than he did last year when he wasn't well it was and still learn a new offense. And boy is an adult. I mean, he's a grown up NFL cornerback who's better than anybody they stood in that spot last year. And Melvin is Melvin's another old head. And so we'll see

what those other guys bring. I mean, well, we're gonna find out more about cats like Keith Taylor and Stanley Thomas Oliver and Sam Franklin and Sean Chandler over the next couple of weeks because they're gonna have to so it's gonna be interesting. But they are absolutely when you when I've watched them throughout training camp and O T A. S and stuff. It's been the immediate difference is that secondary is so much better than it was a year ago. And and the pass rushes that help when you can

make quarterback. Yeah, those guys are as aggressive as they've been in the first three games, and hopefully it'll make it a lot easier on the second. And one of the big parts about that is not just that it's the it's the run defense. It's it's both parts of that because Dallas, like Carolina, is actually one of the more balanced offenses in the NFL. Like they have nearly fifty fifty pass and and rush plays well with those weapons. When I mean, when when you have I mean, you

know everyone knows Zeke. You know, you've got this guy Pollard that that's averaging just as many yards on the ground, you know, really good change of pace. And they've been able to, you know, like old school football people. They established the run and then all of a sudden, Dak Prescott gets to sit back there and play action. And I mean he's completed over of his pass is the

last two games. He's not missing his guys. And when you can do that, when you can, you know, as to have that run threat in you know, have the linebackers be sitting back looking for the run or whatever. I mean, people are getting open. But the Panthers pretty good. I mean they shut down Alvin Kamara, who then the next week went back out and did Alvin things. You know, I mean that that wasn't just Alvin's having a down year. That was the Panthers defense. And that's the thing. There

excuses and conditions for all three of those games. You know, it's just the Jets, Oh, it's just the Texans. Ah, the Saints are you know, missing all these guys in COVID and away from home. The Panthers have had something to do with each of those conditions the last three weeks. But like Will says, because they're playing so well, they're forcing people into those days. Absolutely absolutely, um. And you're talking about, of course the Cowboys run game and the

Panthers needing to the run. Defense needs to be there. But but also it will be the first time the season that they're facing a quarterback. I don't know how to put this, like who's experienced in decision making? Who can outthink you? Who's um? I mean, and I know Jamis has experience, but that would have been Drew Brees. Last year, they would have seen Drew Brees and and I think the NFC South traditionally has had those just credible veteran quarterbacks, but this is really the first one.

So I'll be interested to see how this steam line does against you know, it was it was it was rookie, it was Jamis and then it was rookie. So I'll be interested to see how they fare against a guy who has more tools and his tool belt and and

Dak Prescott has the ability to spread you out. And when you're talking about injury questions in the secondary, that's a bigger problem because Dak is smart enough to know where it goes and Okay, I'm gonna look here, here, here, And he's got the ability to do all that stuff. I mean, it's he's not he's not Drew Brees, but he's definitely moving down that road and he's closer to that. I mean, DA's one of those guys now that drews out of the league. I mean Tom Brady's just Tom Brady.

That's a different conversation. But you know, DA's got that awareness and that ability to process on the fly that they haven't had to contend with in the first three weeks, so that was going to be a challenge anyway, you know, and especially because the cats he gets to work with. I mean that skill position gast of characters is pretty strong.

So it's it's definitely going to be the toughest tast and and like I always like to do with these things, I always like to look at the other side of the matchup that people aren't talking about as much against this Cowboys defense and Sam Donald without Christian McCaffrey. And one of the things I think is really interesting about them, they lead the NFL and takeaways. They have eight takeaways.

They've had more at least two takeaways in each of the last seven games dating back to last year, but their third to last and total yards allowed, second to last in sacks, and like tenth to last and points allowed. Sorry just this year or in that same seven games defensive coordinator. So the first three games they are getting

after people making takeaways, but like not stopping. Yeah, I mean, like Philly, Philly should never have been within an arms throw of them on on Monday Night, and somehow, all of a sudden, here goes Jalen Hurts for a couple a d r drives like how did that happen? And then they get a pick six and you know, and and all of a sudden it's it's gone again. So you have a quarterback in Sam Donald who's taking care

of the ball really well. Um, you know that they've spread the ball around a lot, and obviously they found DJ Moore. But yeah, I mean it's a Now, obviously some of those strip sacks that happened in Houston, like those start getting scary. Matt Paradise is there, though, don't worry. Matt Paradis is there to recover those. But that that's what Dallas is. Dallas is is you know, no risk a,

no biscuit. Okay, Um, but let's let's talk about that, because let's let's talk about this offense without Christian McCaffrey would be a little bit harder to establish the run um with you Bohubbard and Royce Freemant. Is just the way it is. Christian McCaffrey is one of one. What have you seen? You know that I've asked Matt Rule about this and I think we're all in agreement. At least from the Thursday night game. Cuba didn't look his

best early knowing that he's a rookie. But by the end of the game when he got his I don't know, he got a little bit more familiar, got his legs under him a little bit. He showed a lot of promise, showed like he was he was ready for it, and I thought, you know, ended the game on a high note. How how are you guys feeling about the Royce Freeman Cuba hubbard Um running back situation for this game? It

could be worse. It could be worse. I mean, honestly, it's having been around here long enough to remember when there were a couple of backs at the same time, and Angelo and Jonathan or Stephen Davison Deshaun Foster. There was always that debate of how can you get a guy in a rhythm when you're running one in and out? And to your point, Kristen Chuba looked much better in the second half of that game when it was all him than he had in these previous Okay, come in

spot him for a play. You got this series, You know, it's hard for running backs to develop any of that kind of stuff without being on the field to do it. And and if you want to be encouraged by that second half of Houston gives you some reason to be I mean, he did look better in that than he did at any point previously this season. So we'll see if that holds up. But it's a lot more incumbent on him to do that because they've talked about and we wrote it on Panthers dot Com last night, Um,

the offense isn't necessarily going to change. They don't want to change the way they're doing business. They still want to try to run and all by the way, in addition to Christian McCaffrey, they're also without Dan Arnold. I was just gonna say, we're we're watching twenty minutes in and I just thought I was like, oh, we thought of talk about that. So there's a lot of adjustment

happening on the fly with this offense right now. But they want to try to do the same thematic things, which means Jube is gonna have to be the guy for a minute. He is, you know, and we've talked about red zone especially or getting the ball down. The said no Christian McCaffrey, Now, no Dan Arnold, who was your coming into this, you know, your number one tight end. I think that shows a lot of confidence and in Tommy Tremble he had a big game, and Ian Thomas,

anyone in that tight end room. But that's something that we haven't touched on as well. How different do we think that the the quarterback to tight end dynamic is going to be, if at all without Dan Arnold on the field. I think when people ask me, you know, how is he going to get the tight end involved, I'm gonna say by throwing it to Robbie Anderson that

that's my answer. I mean, you you've got to figure out a way that Robbie becomes back what Robbie was, you know, like whether you know he remember last year, you know, you know midway through the season, you know, he was getting all of these catches, he was coming in, you know, short yardage, you know, routes, crossing routes, all these different things, finding space in there. And then it feels it feels like so many targets now are just that kind of throw it up and see what happens

down the Cybeline and Robbie. Robbie has shown he cannot us do that. It's not just him running past a guy, It's it's him finding space and zone. It's him going crossing. It's him doing a lot of things to get the ball in his hand, to loosen things up over the middle. And that was partly because they didn't have that tight end in this seems last year. But now it's like, you've got to get him involved because that again we'll

start opening things back up for Tommy. And it's not just the d J. Moore show and the and the coaching staff has has set that too, and and Merrell said, look, he's been open. It's not that he's not been able to get open. We just got to work on making sure he gets the ball. Yeah, never a bad idea to get Robby Anderson the ball, especially if you're gonna pay a guy that kind of money the way they did going into the season. You want him to have more than five kitchen. So again, the one big play

shows what he is capable of. Uh, And I think, you know, obviously he's gonna have to be a bigger part of it moving forward. But you know, even without a Christian McCaffrey to walk into a situation with d J. Moore, Robby Anderson tears Marshall, that's still a pretty good spot for Sam to be in. He's still not a guy with out weapons out here. He's still got targets. So let's see how you adjust. Absolutely, What what do you guys make of Dallas? You know, there's a lot of

suburbs around it. You know, I think Fort Worth is pretty nice. That's on me for asking a bad question. Are the Cowboys the Cowboys? I know we all watched the Monday night football game. You know, they do have one loss, but it was a good loss, right consider that? What do you make of this team? They're They're a team that's on the opposite end of of getting the hype as the Panthers, which is like a lot of hype.

As you said, anything with the Cowboy're going to the NFC Championship already, and of course, you know, I mean that's Jerry Jones, I mean says everyone on TV. I mean, and that's and that's what people want every They're the type of they're like the Lakers. They're the team that everyone still thinks or the Knicks. You know, you need the Cowboys to be great for this league to you know that that's what people want. I think that they do.

They have a young, aggressive defense, they've and they've got like they have some young good playmakers. I mean Ceedee Lamb is really good. I mean my COMPARTA. You have a first round PICKT linebacker, and and then you still have like a Mari Cooper like people overlook him. I I don't know. I I like. I like the way they go about their business. The players do. Um you know. I mean you have Dan Quinn up there. You know there's different life on that defense now there is, and

there needs to be. I mean they're still going to be Their season is gonna be dictated by how successful they are offensively, and they should be able to score points with anybody in the NFL. I mean they've got We've spent a lot of time talking about Sam Donald's cast of characters. I mean, DA's got a pretty good system to walk back into. I mean, now that he's well again, it's like, oh, hey, there's Zeke, There's Pollard, Amari Cooper, Ceedee Land. This is okay, yes, um, A

lot of stuff. Still a good still not a dominant offensive line the way it's been in the past because they're down some guys, but still some big time players up front, great skill position, talent, and and they should be able to score with most people whether they are able to do it. I was wondering if that in the NFL, we'll see. I think that's why we tune in. I think it's gonna be a fun game. Yeah, I think that the whole time it's gonna be entertaining. Have

you been to know? I have not, No, I have not anything I should look out for. I don't know, I haven't anything. Okay, it's gigantic, which we knew already it was gonna be. But there's a Walmart right next door. That's fun. Yeah. I mean the first time I was there, I was parking in the Walmart parking lot and walking across the highway. How many people do you think do that? I bet a tom probably how much I have a Navy Are they selling it that Walmart on a game day?

I have been to the Star, and for those that watch Hard Knocks is summer, you can kind of saw like their their aerial stuff. I mean, the Star is interesting because it's it's a it's a version of kind of like corporate NFL football at its most corporateness, you know, I mean it feels it feels like, you know, a billionaire's office park and then it's like, yeah, yeah, but it is there. There's so many cool things that you

can do with it, you know. I think there's a lot of um there's a lot of templating involved from that that we're going to see in rock Hill. It's obviously the Panthers are going to have their own spin on it and have their own culture to it. But I I think there's some there's some really cool elements from it. Yeah, but the stadium is everything they say

it is. It's huge, it's awesome, it's a spectacle. It's all inspiring, and you walk into it the first time and it's like, you know, you wonder, why isn't this in Las Vegas? Because this is what football in Las Vegas feels like it should be. It's it's just one of those places that you walk into and even if there's not a game going on, you can be entertained there because when you walk into that room, you know

something big is coming. What what was it? I think like J. J. Jansen said that it was like walking into a rock concert and then a football game broke out. Question good, like I wait to check it out for the first time. All right, well, what is your stat of the week it Ficks of the week. So we already touched on a little bit this This run defense obviously first in the league in total yards allowed in yards per Russia allowed. But how about this one from

next gen stats. They have made initial contact with the rusher on average point two yards behind the line of scrimmage. Wow. Right, in last game it was point seven against the Texans behind the line of scrimmage. I mean that that's it's just absurd to think that they're that far into the backfield.

And you know, and and it's so when you're when you have that ability, when you're scheming things up the wayfil snow is not only are guys winning kind of their one on one battles, but the scheming is allowing people to come free. I mean, how many times does Brian Burns come free either to hit a guy in the backfield or to you know, blow up a play.

But when you're trying to run against that, you know, it's like, okay, you know, if we can't do a draw back up the middle because they're coming too fast because they're hitting the draw, and then we do a screen, but then Dante Jackson comes up and knocks the guy back on a screen. You can't get things going when everyone sitting in your backfield. I mean, like there, we're sitting in people's backfield on rushing place, which is a really cool thing. It's a traffic jam back there, nowhere

to go, nowhere told place to be. All Right, we are gonna end this with We usually do a weird question of the week, but I think we just opened it up for Darren. It's not a weird question. It's a very valid question in honor of the Rolling Stones concert here tonight, In honor of Darren's concert worn Rolling Stone shirt that he has on. What are your top three Rolling Stones songs? Why don't you ask me to tell you which child I love the most? Monster? Um,

it's a long list. It's a lot of songs. And when you're talking to young people around here this week, it was great walking in. Do you hear this? Well, I'm sorry, coach speak, coach speed speed. We're walking in the stadium the other he's about to pull me out to he's already told this story. Why you know, he's caveating and now he's going into a story so that

he doesn't have to give his time. I'm gonna I'm gonna give another version of We're Walking in Stadium the other day with Deonte Brown in another coworker, Deante is like, what's going on here? A concert? Deonte who's playing Rolling Stones? And somebody said, have you heard of the Rolling Stones? And Deonte is like, yeah, I've heard of them, you know, any of their songs? And then when you start prompting him, he's like, oh, yeah, I've heard that. I've heard that.

I've heard it. So but they've got so many songs, and you know, a lot of them get played in NFL pre games, like start Me Up, which you've probably heard a time or a million at NFL games. I've heard it. It's not my favorite. It's not my favorite song. I love Gimme Shelter. That was when you knew, well I now know apparently I know others. But all right, So if you can't give three, or if you can't give what, what do you want to open with? And what do you wanted to close with? How about that?

Oh you're It's always hard for me because I I tend to like songs that don't always that aren't always the hits, as you might imagine. My absolute favorite Rolling Stone song is Dead Flowers and it's it's kind of dark, but you know, there you go when you're sitting there. Now, I know that sounds a lot more like the Town's Van's Aunt cover that's in the end of Big Lebowski than anything and your silk poster chair talking to those rich folks that you know. Yeah, I mean that's see

and for me, cut that up right now. That's going on Twitter now. I mean, this is so cool because with me singing that a couple of bars of Dead Flowers, I have performed art in the same building that Keith Richards and Mick Jagger will on the same day. Is this podcast to speaking into a microphone? This is huge for me. Isn't just beside myself, but like dead Flowers, Brown Sugar and if I could really go off the menu, it's more of a Keith Richard solo song. But before

they make me runing, you should listen to that. All right, we'll check it out, Darren, get yourself ready. I don't know that they'll play any of those tonight, but that's okay. They hold a special place in mine. If they don't, we can always get an encore from Darren. I just heard those pipes. I feel good about it. I hope petition to can can we just get you either recording yourself or or having your wife records you just smiling like that when they play a song that you love.

Please tonight. That's all in maternal happiness. It's yes, I'm pretty fired up. It's nothing like going to see the show, and and honestly, we'll see it this week. I've been sitting in the press box working, just watching them build the stage, this monstrosity of a thing in a foot ball of stadium, and I get more and more excited with every passing day. It's it's it's cool because the way Darren feels about this is the way a lot of people feel about coming to see a Panthers game

for the first time. So it's neat to to see the thing that's still that's still get us excited. After being in certain industries, are being around well known people for years and years. I'd love to see the enthusiasm. I saw one of our coworkers walk onto the stage about an hour ago, and yeah, now that would be jealous. I mean Eddie, I'll call him out. Eddie's out there on Stage's legend now. Someone's gonna take a picture of Eddie on here if you know, you know perfect all right, Well, Darren,

I can't wait to get a full recap. Next week we'll talk about the game, but we'll talk about the Stones concert. Thank you all for listening. We will see you next week on the Happy Half Hour podcast four Foo