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Happy Half Hour Episode 23: Accountability

Nov 18, 202028 minSeason 2Ep. 23
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Kristen and Will breakdown Shaq Thompson's postgame locker room speech, discuss the impact of teammates holding each other accountable, share no-context-stats and much more.

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Hi, this is Dewey Jenkins. When the team that manages our Morris Jenkins website told me the most often asked question is who is Mr Jenkins married too? You could have knocked me over with a feather. I went home and told my wife that I was so surprised that I didn't know what to say. She laughed and said, honey, my name is Renee. So now you know the team at Morris Jenkins and I are here for the Panthers, and we're here for you too, whenever you need us.

It's time for a Happy half Hour with your friends Kristin Balboni, Miles Simmons and Will Bryan. That's right, it's that time of the week. It's the Happy Half Hour podcast presented by Morris Jenkins. And Mr Jenkins told me that he loves football and he looks forward to this show all week. When you're plumbing her air conditioning is acting up, called Morris Jenkins or visit Morris Jenkins dot com. Here with my good buddies Will and Matt. Guys, how's

it going. I'm a little cold, actually, well chilly outside to Yeah, it's a bit cold. Somebody in my house left the cold air on. So it's like sixty two and I woke up, So that just makes it and you feel like it's woke up in a blizzard. Oh, we appreciate you joining us this week. Um, so we're gonna talk about Sunday's game, but first, will you said, we gotta update everybody on on Teddy Bridgewater because it's it's good news. He went down a relatively good news.

I would say, uh, he went down at the end of Sunday's game. But what we know at this point, um, Matt Rule has said it is not a serious injury. That is how he is classifying. It's to that right knee. But that's especially good news considering Teddy's past right and it's you know, again, the previous injury was his other his other knee on the other leg. Um, you know, reports out there from Palsero after that, Um, you know, a mild kind of sprain I think, I think, is

what they're saying on NFL Network. Obviously, we're recording this Wednesday morning, so by the time you hear this, the practice report, the injury report will probably be out. Um, so we'll find out more, you know from Wednesday's practice kind of you know, what his status will be coach Will We'll update that again, um, and then we'll could just kind of see, you know, today, tomorrow, Friday, you know how much he's able to go and practice, Um, you know how much how many reps PGA Walker Will

Greer get um and see what that looks like. Yeah, UM, and I think that UM. You know, it's it's good to know, even depending on what the practice reports says today, but the fact that meant Rule on Monday said he was hopeful that Teddy would be able to practice today, um and then hopefully play in the game on Sunday. Whether either of those things happen, um, it's still a nice sign that things are trending in the right direction

of it not being a serious injury. As Yeah, you don't want, you know, him potentially to this to be the season ender, you know, all that kind of stuff there could have been. There's so many questions after Sunday's game. UM, so hopefully these are all trending in the positive direction. Yeah, let's talk about Sunday's game. The Panthers lost to the Bucks at home, and it was it was a very tough second half. Will, Um, I mean it was it just there's no way around it. Especially the third quarter.

It was seventeen seventeen going into the half and then um, you know, the Bucks just took over. And you know, I always look at numbers, is kind of the first thing I look at, and you know, they just it really hurt to kind of look at some of those second half numbers in terms of both defense and and total yards on offense. But I mean it really does defense and offense offense. And you know, I mean the

kickoff return was great, so that was that was fun. Um. But yeah, I mean just they that third quarter, there's just something in there's something going on there, and you know, they all talk about it. The media talks about it. You know, I don't know one can really pinpoint what it is, um, but everyone knows it's got to get fixed because teams everyone, the opponents no too, you know, like don't think that this is just something we're talking

about here in Charlotte. You know, I guarantee you the Detroit Lions know they want the ball or they want to be on defense, you know, to get a three and out. You know, Carolina coming into the game was first in the NFL with the fewest three and ounce in the in the league, and then you have these three ounces in the fourth you have to turnover. You have unable to force a punt. You know, yet another game that's four games in a row where they've only

forced two total punts. You know what offense can function when you just don't think you're going to get the ball back. Yeah, as you said, it's it's something that's got to get fixed, and certainly UM, coaches and players know that. UM and I thought we're gonna do a segment of overheard, Overheard. These are two quotes that really stuck out to me. Um after the game and then on Monday, and uh, it's it's about the way that Shack addressed the team after the tem had this very,

very tough loss. So here's what Rusul Douglas had to say on Shack's message to the team after the game. I'm not gonna curse every other word on the media, but he said some things and he basically tell everybody, look in the mirror, you know what I'm saying. Everybody, like the coach has been preaching all week details leverage, assignment and winning your one on ones, and none of

us did any of that, Like the whole team. We all, we all did bad, and he basically cursed everybody out and said, we ain't fight hard enough, we didn't want it more. It's a lot of stuff, he said, but he basically just told everybody about themselves. And then Shack elaborated further about what he had to say when he was asked about it on Monday. Why didn't you be embarrassed what happened at home? I mean, well, yeah, we're damn good football team, but we gotta play as a team. Um,

and I was just frustrated. I love my teammates, love my brothers, and I know we're gonna turn this thing around. Just happened. We didn't make our line stunt and I just hit it is what it is. But I know and leave that. We're gonna get that corrected. Then we're gonna fight on and play on next week. He was referring when he said the ninety just happened. That was the Ronald Jones touchdown. Um. I thought I thought we should start there because we can say everything we want.

But I think it's it's really powerful hearing it from Shack and the players. There's an issue. There's an issue in that second half, there's an issue and they aren't. They aren't letting it go, which I think is good. You know they you know, after that Tampao gay game and week two is Rosal Douglas again like, hey, I

don't like this. You know you can say, you can come up with all the reasons why, Hey we were you know, if we would have gotten that two point conversion after the kickoff Retorney would have been a seven point game. And then you know, you get a stop and you get the ball back and then you can score, like you can do all those things, you can do those mental exercises. But at the end of the day, they the score was what it was, the plays were what they were, and they didn't like it, and that's good.

It's good to be angry and it's good too to have that sort of like this week, this is unacceptable, and I liked that. Not only did they not like it, Jack was preaching and were school took that message out to the media. You know, it's it's assignment, it's being where you're supposed to be, UM, and those were the things that they missed. So there was a reason, um that they've identified very quickly. It wasn't just like, oh

we got out played. We um, they beat us on certain things like it was, it was this is the reason why this is happening because we're not um being where the coaches are telling us to be. Like I just like that a lot that there was shock said, this is what's going on. We need to get in line. We need to um listen to the coaches. We need

to do what we're supposed to be doing. And and when you have guys like Douglas and Shack that not only listening to coaches listen to them, they looked at the tape to they know exactly who was out of position. You know, they can There's something about when your teammate, when you're holding your teammate accountable, versus maybe a coach that you kind of hear from all the time that says,

you know, kind of the same things. When when it's the guy sitting next to you in the meeting room, who's next to you on the line, he's like, look at the tape, like I went here and then you went to the wrong place. You know. I think that there's something about that accountability that really and and also like knowing like Douglas right after he said that in his press conferences, they asked him about third down and he said, shoot, like we've been making excuses or we've

been saying this, that and the other. Like, I know I messed up. I let the team down. I know there are a number of third downplays where I didn't make the play. And if they can't count on me, then, you know, like, I have to be held accountable to This isn't just like on the young guys or on some somebody else. No, this was me. I messed up too,

So I gotta hold myself accountable. And you know, I think that leadership, you know, is going to be you know, that's something you can lean on and you know that that's a bright spot in all this. Yeah, this is the Happy half Hour podcast presented by Morris Jenkins, and Mr Jenkins told me his plumbers and a c Tex secretly where Panthers jerseys under their uniforms. So when you're plumbing or air conditioning is acting up a Morris Jenkins

or visit Morris Jenkins dot com. Do you think that this could potentially be some kind of a a turning point or a look in the mirror moment for the rest of the season. I certainly think it could be, and I think there's some historical context for this. So if you look back to the two thousand two seasons, Carolina started three no and this was the first year of John Fox, so new head coach. The year before, they had gone one and fifteen, you know, blew everything up.

So they started three and oh and it's like, oh, here we go, new head coach. You know, things are looking great. Then they went and eight, oh and eight. By the end of November they were three and eight. In the last game in November, they lost forty one to nothing to the Falcons, and then they finished the season. Um yeah. And then then they finished the season four and one to finish the year at seven and nine. And then the next year they go to the Super Bowl.

And here's part of in. You know, fans around and be like, oh man, you know, if if you're three and eight, just lose out, you know, go three and thirteen, you know, try to get that second or third draft pick. Like what are you doing? Why finished seven and nine. It's really hard to go three and thirteen, and it's really bad to go three and thirteen in a lot of ways. And part of that, right, and but you know, fans are just like, oh, you know, at this point,

who cares? And they don't really see that larger picture of what it takes to lose all those games, because like, for instance, Jake Dilone, you know, you've done so many things with him, you know, over the course of the spring and summer, and he tells this story about when he was a free agent at the end of that oh two season and he was looking between Carolina and Dallas.

He could have gone to Dallas, and one of the things that was a deciding factor for him was the fact that the last game of that season, Carolina had nothing to play for, nothing at all. New Orleans did. New Orleans was still potentially getting in onto a playoff spot.

You know, they could have had some things fall their way, and Carolina came into the Superdome and they kicked their butt, and Jake was on the sideline being like, who is this team that is out here fighting for everything, scrapping for every loose ball, you know, with so much energy that's just killing us. You know, like, who are what

are they about? I'm interested in them because there's something about them that when there's nothing to play for and you're playing for everything that you want to be part of that group. And so that was a big part of why he came. And then all ofviously, you know, we know what happened to know three, you know, and

so like that. I think those things speak to not only the group internally in the locker room, but as a part of, you know, a larger statement to the NFL two potential free agents, to everybody about this is the culture we have. And I think a lot of that, you know, continued on in in kind of the Panthers. You know, they've always been really good in December, much to like our fans chagrined about wanting to get these high draft picks. The Panthers always keep fighting, they keep pounding.

I mean, let's be real, you know, and and know four they finished four and one December to finish seven and nine. They went to the playoffs next year. In two thousand and seven, you know, they were way under five. They finished three and two with Matt Moore's quarterback after everyone got hurt, you know, and then they went to the playoffs next year. Like there's something about, you know,

a team that keeps fighting that that there. I do believe that carries into the off season in a way when you have the same people, when you know this group is coming back, you want them to keep fighting. You want them to have that taste going into the off season. Well and and so, uh my perch home games is the operational zone in the first row. And from where I was, I did not think there was a lack of effort. Um execution, yes, but effort those guys we were fighting until the end um and I

like to see that. So I think that I think this game against the Lions on Sunday at home again, I think is going to be um is going to tell us more about maybe what we'll see going forward the rest of the season than that one half did. Because because here's my next question to you, how much does this one bad half change the outside narrative or the overall picture of this team right now? Because because look, Tampa Bay coming into this game against the Panthers got

she lacked by the Saints three. Do you think they're a bad team. I think a lot of people were thinking they were a bad team after that game, which is why I think the outside narrative a lot of

ways is just weak. Yeah, it's week to week it is what it is to say that, you know, I think this Panthers team for for the third quarter issues, the third down issues, um you know, not being able to get off the field on on defense, I think this team is is the team that keeps it close and and placed until the very end it is within one score of of winning the game versus the team that we saw have a really bad half versus Tampa Bay. Now, I think we'll we'll know more, um against the lines

to see how they respond. But I I think that um, everyone's allowed a bad half, a bad game. No, I'm not saying that's you know, they are on a losing streak. But I think that this team is the team that keeps it close despite those issues. I I do too. I also think that you know, there's there's there are more things that have continued to happen outside of just that half that they need. They Yeah, I would love

more than anything. I mean, if they go out there and they forced Detroit into a three and out in the first drive of the first quarter, like that sideline is gonna erupt, you know, and it's it's gonna take They've got to do something like that, you know, and that's why you know Shatt came out there. He's like, I'm gonna punch that ball out, like I'm gonna get this ball this first drive, you know, and they've got

to keep doing that. You know, they've got to figure out, okay, this when we're coming out of the halftime locker room hair on fire. You know, we've got to come out and make a play because there's this narrative in our heads that you know, we hear from the coach, we hear from the media, we hear from everybody. We hear from our girlfriends and wives and kids at home, Hey why can't you? And it's like everyone's talking about it.

And for them, I think it's a matter of coming out and just making one stop, making one first down, making one touchdown, making one big play in the third quarter, to like, hey, enough enough from all of you, enough from everything, like we're we're over this, We're done with this,

We're moving on. And that role has talked about that where um, I'm gonna paraphrase him here and um, but he said essentially, sometimes players are trying so hard to make that big play that they get a little bit outside of what their job is, and so I think his messages what yours is, which is like, don't think about the fact that it's the third quarter and we have these third quarter problems and we're down by this much. Just go out there and and one snap at a time,

make sure that you're doing your job. You hear the players say, like doing your one eleven, Like make sure that you're doing your job on this play, and the rest will take care of itself. And I think that's hard, you know, I think that's hard for all of us. It's a larger discussion of you know, trying to just focus on the task at hand and not get overwhelmed by everything else. But I mean that makes sense. We'll see, We'll see if they can get into that mindset. On Sunday.

Do you play golf? Not? Well? Can you tell? I mean, like I always feel like there's it's it's that kind of that back nine when you just like had three or four quadruple bogies. This is why I'm not good at golf. And you just the next shot, you just want to hit it so hard and you just grip it so tight and you swing so hard, and man, it goes horribly, you know, and it's you know. It's just like you know how to hit the ball and you know that the people around you are going to

make plays. So relax, be calm, and don't try to hit it too hard because if you do, you're you're gonna miss it. Or I like that you brought in a golf analogy, but in the middle of that you said you know the people around you were going to make plays on what are you on a golf team in that scenario? Be Yeah, absolutely captain's choice. I always know that someone else is going to hit a better drive than me, so I don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, I can play best ball, that's no problem. All right,

let's take a quick break. We're gonna be back for with more. Hi, this is Dewey Jenkins. When the team that manages our Morris Jenkins website told me the most often ask question is who is Mr Jenkins married too? You could have knocked me over with a feather. I went home and told my wife that I was so surprised that I didn't know what to say. She laughed

and said, honey, my name is Renee. So now you know the team at Morris Jenkins than that are here for the Panthers, and we're here for you too, whenever you need us. All right, we'll got some stats for us the time fist of the week. This week we have a special edition of stad the week. We have no context stats of the week. I'm excited. So I did this a couple of weeks ago at halftime and apparently, you know, as the kids say, it blew up on Twitter. So I'm going to try it again and use Twitter.

They use Fleet. Now do you use fleets? Yeah, it's called fleets? All right, Well, I don't wanna. I don't wanna. Yesterday in our we have a we have a weekly content meeting and Will is acting like he's the kids do this, and the kids do that. Fleets just debuted the other day, and you said something in our content meeting that was like, if you retweet my fleet on my It was just I don't know. Do you know a lot about fleets? I know nothing about fleets. That's

what I was asking the questions to the kids. If they could if I posted a stat on fleets, would they be able to retweet my fleet? You know? Is that the is that the the optimal way to tweet fleet? I don't know. Maybe not. I don't even know what we're talking about. Most people don't. All right, back to no context stats. So again, these are there is no context for these all these are bad stats. That's the point.

So everyone at home that are going to yell at me over the computer screen, the point is that there's no context and they don't mean anything. Okay, So which player Kristen or Matt is second on the team in yards per catch behind d J Moore yards per catch? Well, it's got to be someone. It's got to be someone that has like two catches. I know the answer, but you're really you're right. I know the answer because he told me this one before. Well, now I can't say

who I was because you're thinking is correct though. So it's just someone with a very small amount of catches. Do they have more than one catch? Have two catches? Brandon there is? I was thinking about sixteen yards per catch because uh he had the twenty eight yard catch from Joe Charlton with a fake punt, which leads to my next one. Did you know that Joe Charlton leads the NFL in yards per passing attempt first in the NFL, and he's actually tied for first in the NFL with

Jarvis Landry. I love that you did that and turned off the quality filters, which is like minimum ten passes or whatever. It is first in the NFL in yards per attempt in passing. All right, This player, who unfortunately is no longer on the active roster, he's on reserve, but he has the highest average top speed according to next Gen stats on the team. Really someone that's not on the active roster highest average top speed Reggie Keith Kirkwood.

Really which yet now you know, I don't know exactly how you know it's that with the ball. Is that you know he's only had three plays or whatever with the ball, you know, versus other guys that have you know, so many more plays that kind of lead into it.

All Right, here's one that I think is really interesting because we if you go to Panthers dot com, there's a great article on this player, um and kind of he's been really quietly playing quite well, um in in the last several weeks, you know, really kind of forced into service article. I didn't, I didn't, um, but someone did, and it's it's a really good read. But this player is second behind Shack Thompson with the fewest missed tackle

with the lowest missed tackle percentage, which is corn Elder. Yes, corn Elder. How she reads dot com ideal, I did. I did see that there um is an article on corn Elder. But also he's just quietly I think it was Will saying, just like quietly doing really well. He's someone that we don't talk about as much, but but he's having a good season. He's been like a good all around guy for that defense, right and I think, you know, he had a career he led the team

with eight tackles. You know, obviously, you know you don't want, you know, your cornerback to be leading the team all the time and tackles. But at the same time, I think this is a nice stat for him, you know, for I mean, it's really hard to be making those tackles and open space and for him to have such a low miss tackle percentage, it's really good for him. I mean, he has thirty two tackles, so it's not

like he got one tackle and missed one tackle. I mean like he's he's had a lot of opportunities, not like some of the other quality filters. They turn it off. So here's the here's the last one for you, which is just so absurd. All right, this player, there's a stat called rushing yards after contact percentage, So the number of yards that you get after the first contact or how much, how much? What the percentage of that is this player one percent of his rushing yards have come

after first contact. Well, at first I was like, well, obviously, but before you said one percent, I was like, well, Mike Davis would be too easy, Like, I'm sure he's got a great he's he's he's great after contact, but one hundred percent after contact that means they have like probably three rushes or something. He has he has more than one rush, I'll give you that. It's happened more than once, and all of his yards have come after contact. This is the first one. I'm just going to give

up on. Miles Hartsfield. No, poor guy. I think he literally was like hit in the backfield and like every both rushes he had to like run through contact just to get back to the line of scrimmage. Miles Hartsfield, I love it. Those were great. Those were really really fun. Did you go in knowing any of that or knowing that you were looking for any of them, or did

they just come to you. So there's ah, I actually get asked this sometimes on Twitter, but there's like this proprietary stats website called Radar three sixty which has like a lot of these things, um, And so what I did was there's all of these just random categories. So I made it just panthers, and I went through and I looked at the categories and I thought, what are some really random stats? Like this is just a like rushing yards after contact percentage. I just think is the

one of the most random interesting things. I'm like, let's just see what's there. So I actually like pulled up maybe like thirty five different random stack categories and these are the ones that I pulled out. I like those, can you subscribe to that website? And like can anybody do it? Or do you get it through the league? Yeah? So it's through the league, Which is why everyone Twitter gets really mad at me, because they want to, like they want to like check my receipts. As the kids say,

kids are saying a lot of stuff. They want to they want to make sure that they because they don't believe me when I say stuff, even when I screenshot it, and so they want to be able to have access for themselves to go in, mostly because they want to look up their own things, and I'm like, nah, sorry, David will ask me on game day to like look up a stat and I'll look at our media book from last year because it's got like twenty five years of history, and of course I can never find it.

Signed up just texting you, Yeah, I do the same thing. I'm like, well what about it? Where do I find this? Ye? You do that? How many text messages a week do you get? I think all of us do it? Yeah, everyone does. That's why he's Panther stats guy. You don't get that. You don't get that on Twitter. You don't get that name on Twitter for no reason. Um. All right.

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A little bit different this time. UM, so you know we'll go what's cake flavor, best fast food, that kind of stuff. I'm gonna start with Matt on this one, all right for the weird question of the week. If you are having a meeting to talk about work stuff and one person has their video on, is it rude for the other person to not have their video on? If the meeting goes over an hour, who started the meeting, the person showing the video or the person not? No context?

If one person has their video on and you're talking for a long time, is it rude not to have your video on? I don't know. I feel like I wouldn't knowing me if I called you to do work stuff and you didn't have your video on, or if you did have your video on, I don't think I would ask you to change it or do anything. And I don't think I would change what I was doing based on what you ding it. Thank you, Matt, I asked this. This is not hypothetical. As you can tell,

this isn't even a weird question. It's just it was just funny. So well, and I had a we were a part of a meeting on something else yesterday, and then Will said, um, do you want to talk about

podcast afterwards? So we stayed on the call like the team's call, which is a zoom for anyone who doesn't know, it's the same thing similar, and we were brainstorming ideas for this podcast, and we were talking about some other work stuff and like forty five minutes and I was like, wait a second, I've just been talking to myself this entire time. Will just blank screen. I've had my video

on the whole time. We're having a we're having a lengthy conversation about the podcast and things we want to do. I'm just I'm just talking to a blank screen minutes. I love it too. She wasn't like, well, do you want to turn your like what's but no, she was like, wait a minute. We've been doing all of this and going through all it, so here's here's my side of this, or Matt go ahead. I was just gonna say, how quickly did you realize her videos on yours? Wasn't Oh immediately,

I wouldn't get to change it. So I had gone the entire day, I think four different teams meetings UM with I had been doing them from my cell phone so that I could continue Do you have the battery for that? It's always plugged in, So I was doing it from my cell phone so I could continue to work on my computer on other things, which is obviously

how I how I handle all my tweet fleets. Um. So I had been called out for the earlier meeting in the morning because I turned my video on from my phone, which on the way it displays if everyone's on there like horizontal computer, like it's gonna give you a headache. Yeah, and then they're on their phone, so

it like crops it. So it was just like my chin, I guess, And so I was like, I'm not too in my video on for the rest of the day because like everything's gonna be I think, I remember, and immediately turned off my video and didn't turn it back on for the rest of the day. So I was in this meeting with like five other people that all had their video on. I was the only one that didn't. And then afterwards it was just Chris and I wasn't

going to turn on. Then I just, yeah, I should have I should have taken the hint and turned mine off too, But I just realized was just like, all right, I'm just talking to a blank screen. It's such this weird new thing, you know, or not new, but like all of the there's all these articles and white papers about, you know, the etiquette of virtual meetings in a COVID world. Now,

I mean everything's changed. I'm just I'm saying, if your friend, you and your friend are playing a podcast, your coworker, you'd think, okay, got her video on, Like maybe I'll check in and say hello. All right, it's not even a question, and it wasn't even that big of a deal. I just wanted to break it was a good story. It was a good story. Thank you everybody for listening to the Happy Half Hour Podcast. We'll see you next week. Four Who

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