Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 Brenda J and Karen B unpack Episode 1 of the new docuseries, The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath, which premiered on July 10th. In this conversation, they reflect on the key moments, themes, and takeaways from the first episode. They also share their thoughts on the Broken Shepherds app. Their prayer is it will bring light and truth and much needed change to a broken system. Fo...
Jul 19, 2025•25 min•Ep. 212
Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salaries and where their money was going. He started at age 28, and after 12 years of no accountability or t...
Jul 10, 2025•20 min•Ep. 211
For a discount on the docuseries coming July 10th click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salaries and where their money was going. He started at age 28, and after 12 years of no accountability or ...
Jul 04, 2025•22 min•Ep. 210
Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salaries and where their money was going. He started at age 28, and after 12 years of no accountability or transparency, finished his 7 part docuseries and app that is about to change the world. In this episode, Nath...
Jun 27, 2025•28 min•Ep. 209
For a discount on the docuseries premiering July 10th click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. Nathan tells his story of how he grew up attending a Megachurch in California but when he became a director and started traveling the world started to question religion and tithe. He boug...
Jun 20, 2025•26 min•Ep. 208
Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Chuck Degroat, a therapist, professor, spiritual director, and author of When Narcissism Comes to Church. They take a deep dive into understanding narcissism and he explains in detail the difference and importance between being diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and having narcissistic characteristics. They also discuss the healing process for victims of narcissistic abuse. A must listen..an extremely educational and informative podcast. https://...
Jun 13, 2025•29 min•Ep. 34
Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Chuck Degroat, a therapist, professor, spiritual director, and author of When Narcissism Comes to Church. They take a deep dive into understanding narcissism and he explains in detail the difference and importance between being diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and having narcissistic characteristics. They also discuss the healing process for victims of narcissistic abuse. A must listen..an extremely educational and informative podcast. https://...
Jun 05, 2025•32 min•Ep. 33
Sneak peek into episodes 33 and 34 Understanding Narcissism and Healing From Narcissistic Abuse
Jun 05, 2025•1 min
Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer, Authors of A Church Called Tov, Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing. They discuss how their compassion for the Willow Creek and Harvest church abuse victims led them to write the book about a goodness/Tov culture to promote healing. A powerful must listen podcast to inspire a goodness culture in your church and everywhere you go. churchcalledtov.org https://hangingontohope.org...
May 30, 2025•25 min•Ep. 30
Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer, Authors of A Church Called Tov, Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing. They discuss how their compassion for the Willow Creek and Harvest church abuse victims led them to write the book about a goodness/Tov culture to promote healing. A powerful must listen podcast to inspire a goodness culture in your church and everywhere you go. churchcalledtov.org https://hangingontohope.org...
May 23, 2025•28 min•Ep. 29
Sneak peak into episodes 29 and 30, A Church called Tov with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer
May 23, 2025•2 min
Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Dr. Diane Langberg, author of Redeeming Power. She has been working with trauma and abuse victims for over 40 years and is an internationally recognized psychologist and international speaker. Diane discusses how power can be used for good or evil and explains how abuse victims show courage and are a prophetic voice when they tell the truth. It was an honor to interview her. https://www.dianelangberg.com https://hangingontohope.org...
May 17, 2025•43 min•Ep. 11
Sneak peek into Redeeming Power with Dr. Diane Langberg
May 16, 2025•1 min
Brenda J and Karen W interview Thomas Pryde of Psalm 82 Initiative. He is a pastor that helps educate church leadership and other pastors on how to respond to abuse in the church. He talks about how to recognize abusers in the church and how to help victims of abuse as well. Great information you don't want to miss! https://www.psalm82initiative.org https://www.patreon.com/Psalm 82 https://hangingontohope.org...
May 08, 2025•41 min•Ep. 6
Sneak peek into Episode 6 Abuse In The Church, The Truth Will Set You Free with Thomas Pryde of Psalm 82 Initiative.
May 08, 2025•57 sec
Brenda J and Karen W interview Steve, a former abuser and now Celebrate Recovery leader. Steve is very sensitive to our listeners as he tells his story of how he was abusive. He explains how he called the Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-SAFE to get help to stop abusing others. They guided him with direction and information on counseling and groups as his first step toward real change and stopping his abusive behavior. Steve now helps other abusers that want to change. A must listen! https://...
May 02, 2025•35 min
Sneak peek into episode 85 A Former Abuser's Path To Change With Steve.
May 02, 2025•1 min
Brenda J interviews Co-Host Karen Wonder. She tells her story and provides helpful tips and advice from her own experience towards healing. thehotline.org 1-800-799-SAFE Domestic Violence Hotline rainn.org 1-800-656-HOPE Sexual Assault Hotline hangingontohope.org
May 01, 2025•25 min•Ep. 2
Karen Wonder interviews Co-Host Brenda J. She tells her story and provides helpful tips and advice from her own experience towards healing. Her story involves some details of Domestic Violence and included here is the link discussed in the trigger warning. thehotline.org 1-800-799-SAFE Domestic Violence Hotline rainn.org 1-800-656-HOPE Sexual Assault Hotline hangingontohope.org
May 01, 2025•33 min•Ep. 1
Sneak peek into Episodes 1 and 2 hangingontohope.org
Apr 30, 2025•53 sec
Brenda J and Karen W interview Nicolee Thompson, CEO/Executive Director of Harvest Compassion Center. Harvest Compassion Centers provide food and clothing banks in the Phoenix area. Nicolee tells her amazing story that led up to Harvest Compassion Centers and what is unique about them. In this episode, they talk about how you can make a difference in your community and how every little bit helps. https://harvestcompassioncenter.org https://hangingontohope.org...
Apr 25, 2025•24 min•Ep. 207
Brenda J and Karen W interview Nicolee Thompson, CEO/Executive Director of Harvest Compassion Center. Harvest Compassion Centers provide food and clothing banks in the Phoenix area. Nicolee tells her amazing story that led up to Harvest Compassion Centers and what is unique about them. They discuss statistics of hunger in their community and how they are making a difference in the lives of families. https://harvestcompassioncenter.org https://hangingontohope.org...
Apr 18, 2025•26 min•Ep. 206
Brenda J and Karen W interview Candace Shim, LMHC NCC, a dedicated and experienced mental health professional with 28 years of experience as a therapist, and 22 years as a school counselor. Candace is the Author of the Bully-Proof Blueprint, A Parent's Guide. On this episode, Candace talks about how to help overcome and combat bullying, and gives helpful advice if you are the parent of a bully. She also discusses cyber bullying, how to collaborate with schools, and connecting with professional r...
Apr 11, 2025•33 min•Ep. 205
Brenda J and Karen W interview Candace Shim, LMHC NCC, a dedicated and experienced mental health professional with 28 years of experience as a therapist, and 22 years as a school counselor. Candace is the Author of the Bully-Proof Blueprint, A Parent's Guide. On this episode, she defines and talks about the different types of bullying and explains the slight difference between abuse and bullying. They also discuss the signs of bullying and who is targeted. Candace talks about the importance of c...
Apr 04, 2025•31 min•Ep. 204
Brenda J and Karen W interview Sheri Lopez, Founder of Pearl At The Mailbox, which works to end child grooming and exploitation in America through prevention, education, and awareness. Sheri is also an Author, Speaker, Prevention Educator, Law Changer, and Family Advocate for the trafficked. Sheri tells her story of how she was groomed and trafficked at age 15 while she was living at home with her parents. She announces her Grooming Prevention Hotline (number below) to call if you think your chi...
Mar 28, 2025•34 min•Ep. 203
Brenda J and Karen W interview Sheri Lopez, Founder of Pearl At The Mailbox, which works to end child grooming and exploitation in America through prevention, education, and awareness. Sheri is also an Author, Speaker, Prevention Educator, Law Changer, and Family Advocate for the trafficked. Sheri tells her story of how she was groomed and trafficked at age 15 while she was living at home with her parents. She announces her Grooming Prevention Hotline (number below) to call if you think your chi...
Mar 21, 2025•33 min•Ep. 202
Brenda J and Karen W bring Andrew Bauman back to the show to discuss his book, Stumbling Towards Wholeness. This book was instrumental in both Brenda and Karen's healing journey. The book discusses the story of the prodigal son how we can all relate. Andrew adds helpful insight as they quote from his book on how to heal from shame, self contempt, and heal through the love of the Father. https://andrewjbauman.com https://hangingontohope.org christiancc.org...
Mar 14, 2025•28 min•Ep. 79
Brenda J and Karen W bring Andrew Bauman back to the show to discuss his book, Stumbling Towards Wholeness. This book was instrumental in both Brenda and Karen's healing journey. The book discusses the story of the prodigal son how we can all relate. Andrew adds helpful insight as they quote from his book on how to heal from shame, self contempt, and heal through the love of the Father.
Mar 07, 2025•28 min•Ep. 78
Sneak peek into episodes 78 and 79 Stumbling Towards Wholeness With Andrew Bauman
Mar 07, 2025•1 min
Brenda J and Karen W meditate with you as they read life giving Scripture that reveals our true identity in Christ Jesus. As abuse and trauma survivors, we lose our identity, and as we heal begin to discover who we are. As we struggle to find ourselves, it is important to remember who God says we are, not the world. Our prayer is that God's truth will resonate in your spirit and soul as you soak in the verses. https://hangingontohope.org
Feb 28, 2025•22 min•Ep. 201