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He's hanging with the boys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Jallas Cowboys. This is going up and now your hosts, Nate Newton, Josh Ellis, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross. Hello you fellows, how are you you're ready to hang? Ready to us? Yeah? The listener pretty excited there for a Friday. Man. Well, it's Friday, three day weekend, three day weekend. We're gonna find out what this football team is over the weekend. We got a

rock you know, Josh knows. Josh told us he's gonna be on it. What is there not to be happy excited about? Right, let's go. Man, It's Friday, Friya deadline day for us. It's a little Oh, we're actually gonna get into that today. It was pretty awesome. Man, we gotta I thought this was gonna be a lame show because not a whole lot's been going on. But man, this is gonna be action pat today. Let me stop this, SA get onto Jake breaks. I show would never be

considered the lame Okay, Okay, we don't do that. Okay, Oh Josh, you should have reached over it in and snap your fingers on it. I can do worse than that. Somebody throw back Thursday yesterday, I can box well post a picture I didn't see it did because you're blocked. I probably blocked you. We're blocking one another. Wow. Oh man, So we're gonna get into a little Zeke talk today. We're gonna rehash the little telethon that we Nate and

I were at yesterday. Um, talk a little bit about did canceling yesterday's game have an impact at all on this team? A little story time with Uncle Nate, and then find out what you boys are doing for this three day weekend once we get later on in the show. Sound good? Good? Whoa you're leading this show? Man? I mean I couldn't tell what it's gonna start twelve midnight at twelve Man, we should do a midnight show. That would be interesting. Yeah, would you be in bed? Oh no, no,

I'll be I'll be ready for that. I'll be a pillance. All the overnight truck drive, all the late night party is coming in. Man. Broad Us warned me if you ever do a night show, it's a different show. You get all the NASCAR and truck drive. Yeah. Yeah, West of the Rockies you're on the air, go out of true geeksters who really load their computers. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

let's talk about Zeka a little bit. Our good buddy Clarence Hill wrote a story last night, and I'm gonna kind of paraphrase some of the points that he made in his story, because there's been a little bit more of a development since his story, and we'll let Kurt kind of get into that. But after more than twenty five hours of discussion, including Zeke testifying in his own defense,

his appeal process finally ended yesterday afternoon. Harold Henderson was the arbitrator that now has a decision on whether to uphold the uphold the suspension, reduce it, or vacate the suspension handed down by the NFL. Something that came out last night, and Clarence was the first one that I saw reporting this, so that's why I pulled his story. Kia Roberts, which is the director of investigations for the NFL, recommended no suspension for Zeke following her interviews with Thompson

during the investigation. Thompson being Ezekiel Elliott's ex girlfriend, correct Tiffany Thompson, so Robert's recommendation of no discipline is the main reason Jerry Jones expressed so much confidence in the case until the NFL announced the suspension on August eleventh. Jones, and this is Clarence's story. Jones was told by a

top NFL executive that there would be no suspension. According to a source, Robert's recommendation never made it into the NFL's final report or the official suspension letter on August eleven, which cited the league's findings of three instances of domestic violence by Elliott against Thompson based on the victims, testimony

and photographic evidence. The meeting to discuss the discipline for Elliott included Lisa Freel, the senior vice president of Investigations, Jeff Pash, Executive vice president and General Council, and Adolpho Burch, Senior Vice president of Labor Policy and Government Affairs, among others. Freel barred Roberts from the meeting. A source said. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Thursday that Henderson is being pressured into making a decision by Monday and that a reduction is likely.

So let's paraphrase even further. Hey, here, the lead investigator, who Nate take your hands off your the lead investigator who maybe made a recommendation that nothing be done to Ezekiel Elliott was barred from testifying, which was the only one that actually interviewed the person that this case is actually a case, Tiffany Thompson. She's the only one that

spoke to Tiffany Thompson and made that recommendation, according to reports. Okay, continue, well, they have a if a decisions not made by Tuesday, Elliott could be on the field for the September tenth season opener against the New York Giants. As long as Eliot is under appeal, he is eligible to play. And that's the assumption that the Cowboys are operating on, according to a source, So Kurt, from the time Clarence wrote this last night to today, there's been some news. What's

what's happened? Wow, it looks like that appeal is going to be last a lot longer. I guess they've already a filed a restraining temporary restraining order in the case. They did that today in Plano, which is suburb next year to Frisco. And it's all based on the procedural screw ups that the NFL wants to do. It once again did with that lead investigator and how that was handled with freel and apparently you know what was said and how they handled it. It's opened the door for

them too. It looks like it's got a pretty strong case to take this to court now. And as long as it's tied up in court, he'll be on the field. What the hell is going on with this case? Man? You take a year, You take a year. You got a person that you trust to investigate. This person does what you act. They give you your recommendation, but it's not what you want to hear. It's almost like if that's the recommendation that it's almost like they considered everything

else that's gone on. I think since then, that's what I totally. You know, they they said they said in the initial report that leaked or the letter to Ezekiel Elliott that you know, the Saint Patrick's Day thing is not being considered here, but that was bad too. And the thing at the bar here in Dallas Camp that they you know, they didn't even mention that in the report, but it also came out it happened two weeks before

the suspension. So um, and there's there is a laundry list of stuff that he's gotten himself into, a varying degrees of of whether or not it's a deal um pot shop stuff like that. But he's being suspended for domestic violence, which is a much more serious allegation than any of the other stuff. It is very, very serious, and I understand that. But I said this now I'll

say it again. If it was, if it was for the violence against the young lady, of alleged violence, then why was all the rest of the stuff in the letter? Why why did that even make it right? Why I even mention it? Why even mentioned it? Because they knew for what we know now that that would not hold up if they would have, if they would have followed this young lady's lead. Maybe that now come back with

something at this point that seems more realistic. Now we don't know what happened between Zeke and that young lady, but the more more, would you feel better if they said, hey man, you got two games because you just did the the uh, the the young lady deal, the pot this that when you feel a little bit of hey man, you heard an image of the league, When you feel a little bit better if you would have just did it like that instead of saying, hey, you know now,

and this is the funny thing. I would not try to speculate what happens between that young lady and him. But now she's gonna put herself out there in a whole different light. She may not look as victimized now as she now as she was then. Don't don't don't do this. And I'm I'm talking to the NFL, I'm talking to the players Association. Don't do this the wrong way again. You've dropped the ball more time. If it's five cases, you've dropped the ball four times. He got

to stop fellas, you've dropped the ball. Yep. And it's and this in the person that they didn't allow in the in the meeting. It's not like some slap like us or some security guard. It's the director grading yourself. You're not talking to the other three guys slap like me. It's the director of investigations for the NFL. And you just totally disregard her record. This is what she gets

paid to do. Why do you have people working for you if you're not gonna take their advice and they recommend this whole thing, especially when it's company, I'm sure it happens that you're but but especially when it's that and I if this was a grunt player, which we wouldn't even be discussing it, it it wouldn't even be on

the radar. But you, when a hearty deal went down, you went out and hire this same person that you're now disregarding because she at that point was all for Now she's trying to be you know, I hate saying because I don't have any information or true information. I'm just kind of going on fro emotions. But now she says one thing and you ignore her. This is the

same lady now, I don't. I don't. What I don't The part I don't get is, Okay, they're smart people in the office in New York that run this league, right, how can you think that this was not gonna come out? How can you think, especially with it being Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, Jerry's gonna find out what happens behind those doors. He's gonna find out why this is going on. How at the league level could you think

that you could hide this. I don't. That's the part I don't understand is is, well, I think they believe they're operating on somewhat different set of rules. And I think obviously one of the I guess arguments for the investigators saying she said there was no credible evidence to suspend him. She has a legal background, and one thing I heard is she may be looking at this from a legal background. That's why Columbus police didn't arrest him

or charge him, supposedly was because there wasn't enough credible evidence. Yeah, though, so she could be saying the same thing from a legal standpoint. And the League is like, but we are above you know, we have a different set of rules here. We have a you know, we don't we don't look at the legal part of we just look we just look at our you know, it's detrimental to the image of the league or whatever. And so they're trying to

sneak this through. And that's that's the argument now for the union is that you have you know, you can't do it that way. You have to follow them. Okay, well, let's let's walk through this. We know for fact, between him and the young lady that that he pulled that down rights right Saint Patrick's day. We know that he walked into a pot deal. We know what else. There are things in this case that are are known that I mean, like they said, there's just not enough credible

out of defendence to go to court. But there was, I mean, something happened, and I think that's with enough credible evidence right in Okay, if if if this is criminal court, then the the things that she said that were proven not to be true or stretching the truth that sort of mitigates everything else that she said that might have been true. Now the League is trying to parse out what was true and if is there enough that was true that constitutes domestic violence? They decided it was.

I I don't think that the League is trying to screw him over just just for the hell of it. I would assume that they think that they're doing the right thing here. But say town Brady, I understand, yeah, they just when you put yourself in this capacity to be extra judicial, there's going to be so many things like this that come up, not just this case, but in the years to come. If they want to stick to this that that there's there's just that are problematic.

But you know what, you know what you know what not what you just did sounds great. If they would have included they investigated the only person that interviewed him. If they would have included her recommendation, I'll go along what she said. You know, the biggest problem I have with this whole this whole thing, is this is setting the precedent guilty until you prove your self innocent, which is not what this country's system is based off of.

So now this opens the door for anybody, male or female, to accuse a high profile athlete in the NFL because this happened in the NFL, this happened to me. This is the person that did it, and you can ruin their career. There's no evidence here other than he said she said. One says that this didn't happen. One says it did. And now you're you're talking about livelihood, you're talking about you know, your reputation, you're talking about all this stuff, and this opens the door for anybody to

blame anyone. And then now the you know, the responsibility lies with you to prove that you didn't do what this person said. I don't. That's that's a that's a bad road to go down. How about how about I'm mister Henderson and you walking in with Alfa David that didn't get presented evidently didn't get presented because y'all didn't want it. So now not only do we have Afford David, but we got one of your people that you hired to put in this privileged position to help advise you,

and you ignore both of them. I want to see the righteousness of making a decision when you hire the people. You're the top guy in charge, our guys, our girls in charge. But the one person that don't go along with your program, that only person. I'll keep repeating this.

If Josh is the only person that has interviewed me, my opponent, all y'all going by is what he say, and if he say, well, hey, I'm like a Knack's opponent, I don't like Nate, and y'all two looking at me like, well, you know, forget, we're just gonna go with Nate, but you don't know what happened. You wan't there in an investigation that don't make no sense. It's an odd position that we find ourselves with because I think that there is an argument to be made against the process that

led the NFL to this point. But I still can't I can't go all the way out on that limb because I believe that if he did it, he deserves the suspension. Okay, but proved he did it, well, I'll see that. I think most people think something happened. I mean, she's she's the Columbus police have said they felt something happened, but there wasn't enough evidence to go to court. And that's the thing here, that court versus the league set of rules and where the court couldn't come in and

we'll sit down, couldn't do it. Dotes sin with the parties. Not the young lady. Not the young lady because she's been through enough. But sand I was Zeke in his representatives sit down with the Dallas Cowboys and their representatives as a league owner and commissioner with mister Henderson and say, you know what, let's work this out. Let's and that

can be done. So you know that is the most simple and most effective way when you're trying to Now, if this thing holds up and he get ugly and it all goes to court and all this right here, you know, Zeke is fighting for his life too, because if this thing's gold go down against him, he has no more rope. He's hung right, And I heard somewhere. I don't remember who I heard this from. But if he is suspended, he loses his guaranteed money, I believe is what I heard. You know, you know what I

hear your brother, young man? But right about now that that ain't that? That ain't it? What? What's it is? Can the league for once really way all of the options? If they were to weigh all the options? What what do you? What more do you have to say? Not not the options that you wanted to be, but the options that were there. Number one, the option was that young lady who investigated the deal with the young lady. Then you you go another step further to stack the

cars against this young man. Hey, you cannot use her or her testimony against her? Okay, well, Zeke say fine, here's it. Luckily mister Hill and several others kept digging, kept digging. Who leaked it? I kind of know who probably leaked it? But guess what now they find this this disreport here. I'm not saying. I'm saying normally when y'all talking about this, I don't say a word. But when you're wrong, when you're wrong, when you didn't do it right, the process that you put in place and

you didn't follow your process, You're wrong. I wouldn't be surprised at all. In fact, I would expect it will have, you know, another development in this situation before we're back for the next show Tuesday. But I'm I'm I'm game open for prediction on what happens. Does he serve the full six games? Does he play against the Giants? Where where do we stand as of September tenth. I think he definitely is going to be playing. I mean, just this restraining order they just filed alone, I think it's

gonna back that up even more. Now. Worst case scenario is, you know, December something he gets suspended. But for now, I think it's he's gonna be on the field. What do you think, Nate, get it right? What do you think it's gonna happen? You know what, brother is this goes a little deep with me. Get it right. Because you got a young lady that has an issue, uh she's been uh tampered with. You got Zeke who's got the issue he's been Timford with. Now you got thirdly,

you got the Dallas Cowboys and mister Jones. They don't know what's going on. And now only two people know what's going on, is the commissioner and mister Henderson. Get it right. Whether he played or not, don't make a difference to me, but get it right. That's that's the main issue. Got a prediction, Channing. I'm with Kurt. I think he plays. The interesting thing to me is going to see how now that this is out, how the league is going to handle that. It's it's six games now.

To me, this you know, does it throw the whole suspension out? And if it does, then you know, the League's like, Okay, we screwed this up from the very beginning.

That's that's not a good look the league. I just can't imagine the league is going to admit no the fault or probably just so we give it six months to a year, and the league investigator gonna be fired, replaced hired by somebody else that's gonna just all in line to what they want to do, and then we're gonna have the same old union that don't back up as players. It's gonna be like Russia. Um, I think I'm with you guys that that he plays Sunday against

the Giants and and this hangs over the season. It's it sounds like at some point this suspension is going to get reduced, maybe not by the league, but just by labor cord or whatever arbitrator this ends up with. And maybe it happens to start next season. But if you got it hanging over your head all year, you just got to be so afraid that it comes down in December, right, And you know, I mean I feel bad for the player. You know this. He's got to deal with this for a year. Yeah, you know he's

been dealing with it, right, He's been dealing with it. See, the thing is, when you've had over a year to investigate, to to to come to a conclusion, and you waited, and you waited, and you waited for whatever reason, you had information, you prepared your letter, so it dropped several minutes out there. You gave a suspension, but you convenuely forgot an intricate part. How do you hire an investigate her and ignore what he is She has said one

way or the other. He did put himself in the situation if if the girl was unstable, then he carried on a relationship with an unstable girl when he put that on him. But you know what she and I ain't saying she unstable. I'm saying I ain't saying nothing has not happened to her. But what but what is transpiring now? It's going to be uglier for her and him. You know, you don't you know when we when this is broken, we was doing the show and doing it

with the other guys. I'm saying, I get tired of all of a sudden this that happens you makes you suspension. Now now all of the pertinent information started leaking out. I told Mick, I told Nick, and I told another gentleman, Rob, the same thing. I said that watch when this comes out and the fight start. All the pertinent information that we should have known gonna show up now. We shouldn't have known this. Brother. Well, I'm not real happy that

you're cheating on us, Nate with those other guys. I'm not either. Man. I asked for you guys, man, but they said man, since Josh and in Time was at camp be, you know, they couldn't have our show. All right, Well, it's definitely gonna be something to watch over the weekend and early part of next week. See where this thing goes. Tell you what they want. The arbitrator Henderson they're asking to be have a decision by Monday or two Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, so there would be a busy, busy

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the public. We the Dallas Cowboys held practice at at and T Stadium last night, and then we also held a live telethon from six o'clock to seven thirty where current and former Cowboys answered a bank of thirty phones that they had set up on the sideline. They broadcasted on CBS eleven. I think the NFL network picked it up as well. We broadcasted on Facebook Live and Periscope.

Raised over three million dollars in that hour and a half. Nate, you were out there watching, had some former other former Cowboys. Tony Door sat man the phones. Emmett Smith manned the phones. All the guys. Yeah, yeah, it's out there, man, a lot of guys. I think Tony Cassius was Yeah, Big Cassis showed up man or what does that outline? Trophy winning looks like he can still play. Yeah, yeah, but it'll be a different position. They won't be at the

three tech, I'll promise you that. So they had the guys that did not practice. Most of your starters were a man in the phone banks as they didn't dress out for practice. They let the young guys go at it, and um they had Dez Bryant was on the front row of the phone banks with Dak and Cole Beasley and a few other fellas, and Jerry Jones called into the telethon and they piped the call straight into Daz. About a three minute call, but it's well worth it.

It's great audio. Play it for you. This was last night at our Hurricane Harvey relief telethon practice in a fitting the Salvation Army and practice. This is Jerry Jones calling the telethon Dona Skotboys. This is Brian. Would you like to make a donation to the Salvation Army? Who is this? This is Dez Bryant. Yes, who, this is Dez Bryant in my ascal calling. What doz uh? I thought you're supposed to be on football field? What are you doing on the phone here? Well, I might have

the wrong number. Oh no, no, no, I think you had the right number. We're talking. We're talking donations for the Salvation Army. Now let me say this. This is Jerry Jones or the Cowboys. Okay, Joe, every time I get you on the phone or talk to you, it cost me a lot. Better be sweet to me. Oh yes, sir,

I make be very sweet to you. Thank you, are you really give And the guys that you're hearing laughing, that's Michael Irvin and Bill Jones and whoever they had on the set at the time, on the broadcast half of your whole bonus. That's not unthinkable. Hey, buddy, I'm telling you we're also proud of you for man in this phone here. But I did want to call in because I know you guys are up there competing. Oh yes, sir,

we all competing. Well, I'm sitting right next to Dak Prescott right now and called Beasley um, and it'd be lovely to get up, you know, one of those nice hues donations to set them because you know I'm trying to win right now. Well, both Dac and Beasley bees are good. Josh, you're the worst human being in the world. What. I'm playing this on my phone because Douglas can't get the computer to work, and Josh calls me, hey, right, what is wrong with you? Man? I hate you all right, boys,

but just boys, I'm talking to a man here. Worse. That's right, number eighty eight, hey, yes, reach over there. How many how many million dollars contributions have you had? Tonight. I haven't had not one of those. You got one now, buddy, Oh yes, Third, we gotta. We got a million over here, we gotta, we got a million. We got a million from John. I had to ask. We know we're having a little fun here, but we all know that a lot of people that aren't having any fun right now.

And it's wonderful that you're pitching in and your teammates are pitching in. I'm dead serious. One of the things that I never thought when I got involved with the Cowboys was that all this visibility and all these fans we got all over the country can kick in and when somebody needs something can't carry the ball themselves, you guys and others like you will help get it to them. So thank you man, Yes, sir, thank you, Thank you it so now now will you say it? My dad

told me, don't just let a million dollars come out? Okay, yes, Saia say it like this. One million dollars. Okay, one million yearion dollars. Let it roll off your comp honoring Yes, there are one million dollars when you took my God, keep it up. I'm proud of you, you know what. I love you. Yes, I love you too much of Johnes, thank you, and I hate you. Josh. You're the worst human in the world. Do you know that we're having fun here, aren't we? One? Josh? J oh he got

you know, he got terrible. I'm like, oh great, Who's Who's college galls? I'm like, I'm glad I didn't think of it because I have disappointed if I lock your number, jack Wagon, whoa here we are? Try? How much did he give one million dollars? Yes, sir, you let a roll off as were little sweet Beard. Yeah, pretty awesome, pretty cool moment, you know, seeing that interaction and seeing you know, the relationship Jerry has with his players, and you know, told him he loved him there at the

end of the call. I love you, Josh. You know what? You know what's so funny, man, is the fact that I don't know a time when mister Jones hasn't came up and was more than the occasion. Man, I mean, how quick did they put this together? I mean out of nowhere from Yeah, it's like, okay, we don't need the Texans to have a show, Let's do this like this. Yeah, And it's just great. The way the Cowboys always seem to show up at the right time. Now practice, Yeah,

there was actually football going out. I mean it was like a highlight reel of college players year after Why he got bored? You know, it's like I wondered about that, like since the last game when those guys were gonna be able to their chance. So did they use this practice to really Oh it was getting after Yeah, oh, everybody that was practicing, as Jason had already told him, if you are you practicing, if you're practicing, understand that means you're playing. You might out make the scene. But

it wasn't a better practice game speed type. Now it wasn't It wasn't that fast, but it was pretty quick. And uh, I'm telling you funny. I think one of the UH coaches was behind one of the players who didn't know the players who got a play, and he was telling the plays. It's like, Wow, at this point, you're probably in trouble. Well think about I think we got a couple of new guys on the roster wide receiver. We have what a linebacker new a couple of new guys on the on the on the roster, so they

trying to help him alone. But if I'm the linebacker. I just tell Cope him and sea ball, get ball. That's all you gotta do. Wide receiver got a little bit a little more precise. But now by them canceling the game yesterday, did that hurt anyone's answers of making this team? I know we've talked about this before or they pretty much were they pretty much Well take Josh, y'all, y'all may no more about it than me, because I

don't never count. At the end of the year, it's only about four or five guys that you might have a question about that you might be looking for something special to make you go over the edge to put them on the practice squad, because all you gotta do is take the three dbs that are hurt and just put them on the team because everybody else is set.

Who who it hurts is the guy who we don't know that would have blocked the punt or something in that game, and you know, maybe that guy showed up in practice in a way that um the next Jesse Holly yeah and press him a nut, say hey man, we gotta get this the guy through waivers and get him on. I mean, they did have four preseason games, which is what every other team in the league that

except for the Cardinals. The only difference is, you know, for those guys on the bubble or trying to stick around on the practice squad, they didn't get to maybe show the development from that from the Hall of Fame game when they didn't you know, know, where they were going to hear look how I've put it together over the last month that that maybe they would have liked to.

But you know, the coaches can evaluate from practice film too, and and if they weighed, um, yesterday's practice like a final exam, then I don't think it changes too much in there in the evaluations that they'll have between now and is it Saturday when when they go to fifty three. Yeah, I think they Kurt and you may know more about this than me, but I think they actually start making cuts today tomorrow, and then the final the paperwork has to be turned in on Saturday. Right, yeah, last night

last week? Yeah, I think it's I want to say, four o'clock Eastern. Some of them they've already you may day Sex the day that Texans said bye bye, about thirty guys with bye bye, they should have gotten to go on the bus and they're doing they're actually doing brought us and Nick and all those guys are doing a um a live cutdown show. Really yeah, this afternoon it should be oh my god, man afternoon. How can

it be live? Because they don't know who's cut they're they're gonna they're doing they're doing what Josh did on the show in like three minutes. They're gonna stretch it out into an hour show. So but it should be really cool. So if you get mad, didn't put me on that, it'll be on that. Well that's high drama, high drama. Speaking of drama, speaking of shut up? That pretty good. Shut up. Josh's high drama. Don't you have somewhere to be today? I'm I'm gonna stop by Salata

after this? What's what's a little bill? Jern salad? Bar? Oh? Good spot? Can you'd like to announce the computers working now? Just five minutes after we needed it? Well, if you would have played it, Josh wouldn't have had his moment of glory by calling me in the middle of the playback. Does he want him some glory? Okay he might, Okay, all right, Nate, I just I just open under how many times McArthur would get us. General McArthur I called him mcgarth Douglas. I wanted he got us. He gets

us every day in one way or not. We might not know it. He's getting covered in some way. Wow. Um. So, speaking of drama and cuts, Nate talk us through what that process is like like cut day, like knowing knowing you're gonna get cut, or knowing there's a chance, like hey brother, it ain't no chance. You know you gonna get cut? You getting cut? You know? Right? Yeah? Because the coaches now, but now are they already talking to the guys saying, hey, we're gonna cut you, but we're

gonna try to pick up some guys. They tell him like, hey, man, you know some guys that they see down the road, say like, let's say something happened. I don't even want to say his name, one of the running backs. Let's say something happened to one of the running back. They telling him, you know, you know we we we got you. You know, if something happened, we got you. You know what I'm saying. If they do keep your boy over my boy, you know Andy Jones, they keep uh Noah

Brown or Andy Jones, don't keep six receivers. You know they're gonna say, hey, you know, you know our systems out of this. Maybe they can put him back on practice squad. I think he's got another year of multibility him. So, but the guys that gonna get cut. You know, back when I played and see, I think it's not that impersonal.

I think I'm using the right word because back in our day, when the coaches literally just stopped talking to you, Oh man, you knew it was coming because these be like they they because the closest got to the game. They was not gonna waste their time trying to make sure Nate knew had the right kick stuff on the three technique. It was like, uh, next guy up. I mean they give you a rep. Hey, can you come in here a tighten sword and do this and do that?

But you'd be like, un you finished. You finished your career in Carola. Yeah, it can be nothing find from Carolina. Honeys. Did you um, did you retire in the off season or did you try one more year? And then? Oh no, I was through. I was through, Josh. I was through. When I was with Carolina Pouthers, I was there more as a yes man. I was the most highest paid yes man in the world because I could not play.

My body was gone. But you didn't go to one last camp and then get cut And I was through, Josh, I was through. Were you ever cut? My agent Jim needed to call me and said, you think he got one more in y'all clicked? Had I here from you for two years? But early in your career, Um, you kind of did the bounce around thing US Redskins and before you wound up here and how many times were you cut over those? I was cut from the Redskins

that once. Then I went to the USFVL and I made it with the town with Bay Bandits and was having a the league the NFL could have got me. I was having so much fun in Tampa he could wait a minute. Used to work for Donald Trump? No, that was I worked for the best that crushed. He crushed our league. And I ain't gonna say what he's doing to this country. It's not my place. But he won. He won one dollar in that lawsuit versus the Yeah, and they tripled it. In that type of lawsuit, you

get tripled. They got three dollars. Yeah, we got three dollars. I still I want my one ounce of whatever that is, mister Trump President. But back to you, Josh before you bring my phone. Uh man, when the red skin has cut me, I really didn't care. I mean, who wants to be a red skin? I grew up a California so the league minimum wasn't as much of that as well you got, uh was seven hundred and fifty per week when you played in preseason? Uh you know, twenty

five thirty dollars for you know, for dam Mann. It was been a lot of money back then. I did some party in back then, boys, some people could we need to do a whole show Nate's life in Tampa. How I'm here about that? Brother was loved more than the bucks. I mean we was in a chicken place because I don't know who sponsors for his wings. Was in this chicken place, right, and uh, you know, you know the young ladies and stuff. Uh, y'all get yat did way because it was they just did something. One

of them cans. I don't know what he was doing. It was it. So we're in this place, right and uh, I'm talking, yeah, yeah we did. We did Tampa Baby badness were running this runners on us, all of them. You know all the fun law a lot, we got the badness. Baby we tamna baby batnerts I got and I would have bought me a tray and am baby with the with the too, you know, just like he was smoking bandit ride of rolling and uh, I think it was Steve Cors. You know, seems something. He was

a big buffed up dude. And I'm over there just selling out him. I'm half lit up him about twenty five thirty wins and so so this dude kind of one of my partners, kind of tough to Hey man, he gonna says it big. I mean, yeah, we better than the Bucks, and the Bucks ain't this? And he walks over, you really think you better? I'm looking at him, I'm like, and I know I couldn't. Not the state I was in, I'm like, yeah, yeah, we kind of gotta going on. And I'm a big dude. You know,

we kind of got it going home. Yeah. As soon as he walked out of the door, oh yeah, I'll tell you what. Let him come back in here now top jumping my ride because it's better than his anywhere. But we have, man, we owned that town. We are we would have things in the summertime because I leave was the summer league, so we would have these big bashes at the stadium. We had these, Uh you can

see us right off Dale Maybury. You can see is the damn Maybor Hillsboro were any one of the main drags coming right through, uh rap in front of the stadium, and we used to be right on others across the street from it. And you can see us practice. So people would come up, gold bands going and we're gonna be stopping it where the middle of practice. The coach Spurge was our coach. So everything Florida was there. All eight percent our players were from Florida. Uh. We had

John Reeves late. John Reeves just passed well a couple of months ago. He was there as our quarterbacks. We were who we was. We was. When's the last time you talked to Burke Reynolds. I ain't talked to Burden a long time, and I ain't never really talked to mister Reynolds man, but I I enjoyed him. Mister Bassett was the primary owner. He's no longer as with us. Uh. He great man. I mean he was just like mister Jones. I've been fortunate to always being connected with a great

honor he was. He would take us out once a year, all offensive linemen. And I remember Gary Anderson, a great running back, Gary Anderson, he was playing for us. He went up to Bass, Hey, man, you know we're getting ready to our annual offensive linement deal. That one of them. He was picked the most expensive restaurant you can find in the city, and we're going there and take over for a night. And h gared like, man, I'm going. Man,

you know I'm part of offensive line. Like na, no, no, you get all the fame and you got all my money. How these guys don't get much of nothing. We're going to have a good time. And we did that for two years. Three years man, before he passed away. Was that restaurant named mons Venus. It was. It was huge. We had that one year at a big, big time stake place, and then next year we had a big time seafood place. I never remember the names because we

would all and it's so funny thing about it. It was like eight of us take eight offensive lima a nine defensive lima. Order what you want, I said, okay, I said, well, mister Batson said, now are you for really, he said, yeah. I said, all right, I said around of what was don perion for everybody? Not the glass, not the a glass bottle or a bottom. So all of us, all of them leave like bringing all how many guys besides you made it in the NFL afterwards

on that team? Yeah? Uh me uh Gary Anderson. I think we had one other wide receiver, you know, I think that was basically it. Yeah, and maybe one of the dB. But you know, talking about I want to before you move on, I want to take nake back to the steakhouse because this was a different time. You're different shape than you were then and burning a lot of calories playing football. Just ask him. You know what kind of damage would you do at a steakhouse in

those days? You know that seventy two hours steakhouse where you're going down the road when people say if you can eat that in an hour? I never went in there because I was scared that people was gonna see trying to make me pay because I could kill that. Come on, rush that with the potatoes with a six pack of silting m my angry do angle freshing man. I mean, y'all mean leaving man, y'all find on the side of the road. They eat new food. They make you eat all that grizzle though, Oh I will bust

it all, chew on the bone and everything. Oh man, you know my wife getting mad at me now when I'm eating chicken. She looked over there, like, baby, you're not supposed to chew the baby I'm chewing. That's the hey, when you eat them the best on the bone. Did you watch your alma mater last night play Arkansas? Did? Uh? How how close was it? I don't know, but I couldn't watch the game because their uniforms were so terrible orange We had orange white and then like the metallic. Yeah,

we gotta do something. We gotta do something to try to get complay for us. Terrible. What was the final score? Look? Look that up, man, we'll look at it. We'll take a break, crushed, and then we'll look at it. We gotta take one final break and when we come back, we're gonna see what everybody's doing for the Labor Day weekend.

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because we'll be on Labor Day at some point. The plan was for us to go it one every day. It's changed about eighteen times since we started this show. We got locker room is his issue. He's got to be able to have this locker rooms the space for that. I've got to have about fifteen minutes of open locker

room to be able to go grab guys. The plan is to get two players on per week during the season, which will probably be Wednesday and Thursday, and Tuesday will be the day I go in and try to set it up, and then the other two days go grab him and and he has his hand full. Now it's too late in the day. You may lose your co host over here. What I can't leave work in the middle of the afternoon to come here. It's got to be like a lunch break. That's all we had to do is move the all we had to do is

move the show to the afternoon to get rid of you. Man. The well, I don't know. We'll see, we'll see what time you can do that. Let's try, let's try not to lose him, man, Let's try not to lose him because I don't want to. It's hard to replace that time. Yeah, do you want to? Yeah? You want to? Do you want to hear from me or James Hannah? Let Shannon know. Oh, I already know the answer to that. They would rather

hear from Joe Looney than you. Wow, Well, Joe Looney seems to have we already got, we already got your replacement, swaying say, he'll come in any anytime. We already got to replace me. And let me ask this question right quick, like, Okay, I'm gonna give myself the worst hair in the room, But who's got the worst hair? You got good hair style? Thank you? He's got the worst I know I got.

I mean he's a tall guy. I mean I would call him like a four out of ten, not great looking, but he could get a date in that town, right, So you you who's got I'm actually getting a haircut tomorrow. That's wrong with my hair. Well, the haircut improve I hope. Now that's the goal of haircuts, isn't it. Yes, what's wrong with my hair? You guys have a stately salt and pepper. Look, there's nothing wrong, nothing wrong with it. I got it. I got the worst hair in the world. Brother,

I can't keep it long. I can't keep it shut. I can't. I'm just through what you gonna do with it during the season. You're letting it grow or let it grows, just lipping. Just keep the win off of me. Man, get the don King, No, I never go down and King I was else, but uh, I ain't never gonna do King. What are you boys doing for this long weekend? We're gonna get out of here, hopefully early today, and

uh we've got to boil tomorrow. Some people will have to work because of the cuts that will go down, But then we have off Sunday and Monday. It'll be the last weekend until the bye week that we have. Kurt, I'll be working. Actually inquired, what are you gonna be doing on game program? We got a deadline. Oh yeah, we didn't plug the Star magazine because the training camp issue is really kind of irrelevant now please buy program. So if you go to the game, get a program,

Get program your magazine. My wife and I read it. We look forward to it every week. Do you guys sell the program anywhere other than at the game? I think we'll have him at the store here the Frisco do you see you? Or what's it? Fans United store? And uh? I don't think merchandise is going to sell it online? No? Online? Yeah? Okay? So you'll be working all weekend? You have to work Monday too? No, and I won't be. It won't be NonStop. It'll be I'll

get a little entertainment in. He'll get his drink on, I'll get my drink. Are you going to drink in the office? No, I won't be worre. I won't have to come in. Oh you work from home? Work from home? Oh okay, all right? What about you? You see a few miss bill words? Thank god for spell Chick. What are you doing, josh um? You know I was planning to go visit some friends in Fort Worth, but I don't know if I'm gonna have the gas required to

make it so that you know what see. I thought it was a joke because I saw that on social media night before last, and I was like, yeah, whatever. So I get to work yesterday and I have about a quarter of a tank of gas and I still had to go to the stadium last night, which is about a forty minute drive forty five minute drive, and then get back home, which is about another twenty five minute drive. So I was like, I'll just get gas

on the way. Well, everybody starts coming back from their lunch break and they're like, there's like two, only two gas stations left in Frisco that have gas. Derek went to one of them and waited in line for about twenty five minutes, and while he was getting gas, like they ran out. Wow. So there was a line, he said, of about twenty more cars behind him that didn't get gas. So there was only like one station on across the street that had it, and they had a line of

about forty cars. So I was like, man, such a panic. I'm just gonna go to Arlington and try to find it in that way. If I'll still be at the stadium, I have enough gas to get home, but I won't be able to come to work today. But I wind up driving about fifteen minutes from the stadium and found found the spot. I mean from the sound of things, it is just a panic. Yeah, they had gas, but people panic. It was like, well, run on a bank. They had gas, but they don't right now. That's because

people panic. It's like some walking dead stuff. Man. People were people who didn't need gas, went and bought all they could. Screwed the rest of it. What you're doing? Oh, what you do? Hey, Kurt will gets you everyone crave? Man? I love you, Kurt. What you're doing this weekend date? Man? Just having fun? Man? Just you know, but you know what's fun. What is fun for Nate? Just waking up and breathing. Bro, I gotta get that tweet out in the morning about having a good workout. Man. He's he's

happy to wake up. Brother. I am. I mean because the life I've lived and the things I've been through and that I've taken. Man, I'm happy, man, I'm I'm glad General mcgauthur didn't take over this side of the world. You know, he had stopping from getting Russia, but he didn't come back home with that attitude. I think Nate's thinking about a turn back the clock Tampa weekend now that he's been telling don't do that. Don't do that. Man, I never gonna make it to work. Man, that's a

long drive. Wow, I'll be taking a video of a self fill me. But I'm pretty young. What about you, Douglas? What you're doing this weekend? Uh? Well, since I've been with the Cowboys, the broadcast department works Labor day. So I've never had a labor day off since i've been here. Oh man, so this will be my eleventh labor day in a row. Oh, the players aren't here. We don't have what's that point of labor day? I go to work. I'm gonna do Yeah. We still do a lot of stuff.

You know, Douglas is the most right to do it. I don't know what Douglas does like. He never tells you. Like you do a lot of stuff. What do you do stuff? A lot of it. I do sound production for the stadium, for the website, for the radio network, for the television. None of those people are now. We've still got preparation for the first game. Um. I handle all the affiliate relations with the radio network. I get a lot of emails and see you get de Fieling a dog is one of those guys that create in

his own n thing. I wish a hundred percent. I wish so many few of the running joking in Trading Cat. What is Doug back at home? Well, hell, he was at Valley Ranch for three months by a s. Yeah, yeah, hanging out in Jason Garrets off. Yeah, got in Jason garrets office, printer another printer in the building when I was at Valley Ranch. And when I finally got here and you were joking, You're like, man, if I'd still been at Valley Ranch, I would have been skipping work

every day. Nobody would have known. I wish I could have done that. It was like I was still super busy. But you're the king of Valley Ranch. You have the place all to yourself temporarily, just you and the rats in the ceiling. Yeah, being of the rats. Yeah no, there were apparently there were other see who willard No, but yeah, yeah, no I here. I don't know. No, there's always stuff to do. When I get here Monday morning, don't leave stuff in my Josh ending on quite a high,

we are, well, what are you doing? Tell us ended high? Oh man, I'm just probably gonna go hold up at some bar somewhere and just pass out, don't do it. That's true, right down the street. It's just come back through for the game tomorrow. Are you sure we don't have a Jason Garrett press conference on Monday? I don't know. I won't be here. How you guys doing it, that's one great coach. I'll be mixing that press conference if

that happen. You mix it up, Douggie. We're gonna get out of here and we're gonna have fun this weekend without that, Happy Cowboys, Happy Cowboys with Tuesday. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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