Hangin' with the Boys: Training Camp Updates

take it from you, Jake, I listen. I have to let know we gotta eight mile ourselves first. For heck can get on us. You know, if you file yourself first, you're good. You're good. So so I got it. I got it out of the way, so you can't get it right off the bad Jesse, Isaiah standback. Heck my Harrison, I'm Danny. So this is Hanging with the Boys. And later on we'll have a live report out from practice from training camp with Nate Newton. So stick around for

that guy's first practice today. I mean it's it's no pads. It's more like, you know, the OTA's kind of walking through. But man, it feels good. That we're going to see the whole team out there first practice, leaning into the season. It's like Christmas in July, right we let we wait for this moment holiday right now, we wait for this moment for it to come. And you know, you hear all the stories you go through the draft, the OTAs,

the mini camps. This guy's putting his video out, this person's putting their video out, and all these things are happening. Cowboys putting content out on the website. And now we're here. So all of the hooplah, all of the talk, all of that stuff, now it was time to put up a shut up. And this is the part that gets me super excited. Yeah, it's officially doing it for the gram is over. Yes, doing it for the grammar is over.

Now all the work that guys have been putting in this offseason, um, it's time to show up and you know show out. Obviously it's count down to preseason games. Um, it's been a while since guys have been in position to actually put up and actually show what they can do. Especially these guys that are kind of on an edge on a bubble looking for those opportunities. It's time for them to go Man, where's the mixtape coming out? Brother? Ya come on minute, y'all came in the studio. Let's switch.

Look at y'all. They got the other the same side as I love it. They both got arms sets in this morning, yage real. Yeah, we smell each other. I love it. Man. It's you know, everything is getting started. Like you said, Man, it's Christmas, sin't July. You know. It's good to see the Cowboys back working. You know. The expectations are not lofty at all for this team. They got They got a bunch, you know, and it looks like with the NFC East they have, they're in

prime position to to do some great things. If they can get through training camp healthy. That's the That's the number one thing, and it and the depth in health is what's what this training camp is should be all about, especially for this team all those injuries they had last year. Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, head coach Mike McCarthy had an hour long opening press conference yesterday, and I feel like they only skimmed the surface on so many different topics.

But just right off the bat that first press conference, what stood out to you a little because I don't I can't get in trouble in July. I have to. I have to save my visit to the principal's office at least until October. Now, I know for me, I mean obviously you know, Jerry loves the fans. He loves the people right as as as he's been that way since he stepped foot um here in Dallas. And I think that if anything stood out, it was his excitement

for getting back to Oxner. It was no um it was it was no secret by any means, UM and he was He showed it, um that when when he actually started talking about you know, being there on site, you know, the access that he's given, you know to obviously hard knocks and having fans on site again and just being there in the midst of that, um, you know, we've been knocking her and talking about you know, talking about the facilities and how it's just he's just he's

he's hype, he's ready to go. I mean, I think everything that's surrounding this, it's been that's a long year and a half, two years for me, for mister Jones, and to not have people around him in their regarden. I think he's just hyped his show off all his new toys. Yeah, I was really excited to hear some of his stories talking about back in the day with

Jimmy and all of that. I mean, I'm from Dallas, so you think about when he purchased the team and how it divided the city, came and fired text Ram, you know, Tom Landry, all of those things that he was accumulating enemies it quicker than he possibly could. And now the success that he's had has basically driven this franchise forward. And just to hear those stories again, things that we didn't have a thirty for thirty or Deep

Blue on things like that back in the day. So hearing him talk about that era and then hearing him talk about Barry and Jim me and for me as a Cowboy fan, obviously the nostalgia around all of that, because these are legendary conversation. This isn't I was talking to a nobody. He's talking about guys that are Hall

of famers. Yeah. And then Jerry told that story about how right after he had let Jimmy go and he brought Barry Switzer in and Barry shows up to his office and that he keeps just asking where's Jimmy where's Jimmy. And Jerry's like, well, what do you need to talk about before Jimmy's not here? And Barry says to Jerry, I need to know how you guys mess this up.

I thought you was gonna drop it. I thought I'm not going to the principal the first one, thank you, thank you, and then Jerry saying, you know, he still doesn't know, you know, really how they messed it up.

But it does kind of sound a little different than you know, the fact that he's talking about Jimmy and he had really high praises for him, and of course Jimmy's being inducted into the Hall of Fame and a few short weeks, a couple of days really, so that'll be exciting um, And Jerry was saying, no, they'll probably do something to kind of celebrate him going into the Hall of Fame, so that'll be really great too. And

he was really emotional. There were multiple times where you started to see the tears start to come out, and I think he was just come on, Jeff, So we bought the tears, right, Yeah, you bought the tears, Danny? Did you buy the tears? I bought the tears in the part where he was saying when he was at home last year, not knowing if he was going to find himself an ox Earn again talking in front of

the media. I believe that like he we've said it before, like he loves this whole atmosphere and the vibes of it all and talking to the media and having the intention, I think not having that last year and not Jerry still be respect for it. You don't know how many years anyone has and I be at home. I think that those are the tears I believed of Like he didn't know he was going to be here this year, and he was excited about that. First of all, Jerry's

going to outlive all of us. Make that clear. He's going to outlive all of us. He is made a deal, he got access, he had access to the to the higher to the higher courts. But to me, and this is just for me, I think Jerry is the best salesman slash showmen that we have in all of sports. There is no one on the face of this earth when it comes to putting on a show and to selling something that does it better in the world of sports than mister Jerry Jones. Period. Then you add into

the mix. Being back in Oxnard, I have to begin to sell this product again. I have to right. People are excited about the Cowboys another come out. But Jerry, he is always closing the deal. Always, I am always

putting on my best closing the deal face. And I just think to me, and I'm not saying that Jerry can't get emotional, but the often known tears to me throughout that press conference HBO being there, and let me let me make a bold prediction now before the end of training camp, before we get through this knock situation, because Jerry was hinting at it. And you have to understand, Jerry only hints at certain things and kind of gives you tidbits about certain things. The old man is very wise.

He never missteps, he never misspeaks. He knows exactly what he's saying. He's planned it out in his head moment minute, months before he even gotten to the MIC. I would not be shocked if we hear an announcement by the end of training camp that Jimmy's going into the Hall of Fame to the Ring of Honor this season and again because he you know, it comes up and he's like, well, I don't want to. So he's just always able to move the needle emotionally, you know, systematically, that's Jerry Jones.

So when I see the tears and how he shuts them on and turns them off and looks deep into the camera and gives a camera that look, I'm just like, I'm like, God, this dude is good. I'm like, this dude is good. And this is why this is why the Cowboys are is the recognizable and the most expensive franchise in all of sports because the dude at the hell nobody sells it better than him. Yeah, you make

a good point. And I thought what was interesting talking about with Jerry and what he was saying and kind of Jimmy and the nineties and the championship years was Jerry was saying, well, I'm not going to make comparisons, but he kind of was because someone had asked him, you know, you're always so optimistic, like why do you think this is the year that you guys can get back to winning? And Jerry said, you know, well, I'm better.

Life is better when I am optimistic. But he did say that Dak Prescott has the character and the leadership qualities that a lot of those players had through those championship years and that he feels like things are starting to click. I mean, do you guys think it's true or you know it could really happen to be you know, this could be the year. Or is he just being optimistic? He said the same thing about Rummy as an owner

and Slash Gem. I mean, you know, Slash everything. You have to be optimistic when you're when you're at the hell when you're when you're at the head of the Dallas Cowboys. There's nothing but optimism, right. I mean, whether it's um, it doesn't matter what your roster looks like.

You know, you're always looking up. I don't care if you if you're just supposed to just barely make the playoffs, I don't care if you have a roster that shows that, hey, you guys are supposed to be the best in the league. You're just gonna look up, especially when you just pay your quarterback so everything shows, you know, it gives him every reason to be optimistic. I think that this roster is solid, right, This roster is solid. We know offensively

that things look really good. We know that defensively, we need to see what Quinn brings to the table. Um, I know what he's capable of just from by history with him, but I'm looking forward to seeing how he puts these pieces together. So we know that the roster is there. But we've seen many times before in every sport teams that look great on paper but don't show up on the field. So we have to see exactly how this goes down. But he has every reason to

be optimistic and to be hopeful. Um, you know, not only just because of the franchise, but also he's getting older. He's getting older, right, and that's the reality of it, right, People get older, which is why you know, his son kind of sits, kind of says, you know, at least at least one armament away from him now because he's he's next man up. So Jerry wants to see this thing come to fruition. Um, you know before a father times,

I'm not mad at him. Well, when you give your your quarterback the amount of money that he gave his, you bet you gotta be optimistic. You you gotta be optimistic about a guy that you think is turning the corner in this league to be that apex, that top tier quarterback, and so many media outlets are talking about where Dak is in the comparison with other quarterbacks in the league. You have to feel like when you give a guy that much money, that he's amongst those guys.

So gives you a reason to be optimi optimistic. But another thing that I took from the presser was when he talked about Charles Haley and getting players like that. I believe that if I'm Jerry, I'm sick of it answering these questions about yesteryear and trying to get this team going towards the future so we don't have to continue to talk about it's been twenty five years since we've been there. But one thing I take from that is if you need players, you need players like Charles Haley.

That's a multifaceted answer, because Charles Haley was dynamic, not only on the field but off the field, and he was the kind of guy that from what I understand about Charles Haley, let's look, man, he may have been a you know what in the building, but you were happy to have him on your team. How many of those guys do we have right now? So when you're talking about turning this roster, when you're talking about dogs when you say what's gonna get you to the next level?

When you talk about DNA Sanders and those types of well coach Sanders, you know, guys like that on that level, you have to be reminded that you don't have you don't feel like you have that. But does this new draft class have some of those guys on it? Did you get any of that in free agency? Are you going towards that? Because if the championship, this is a results driven league, do you have that to get the ultimate goal, which is a Lombardi. Yeah, that's a good point.

And Mike McCarthy was saying tyfically about the defensive rookies and free agents they brought in. They feel better about the defense this year. They're they're stronger, they're longer. Now it's just a matter of can this defense kind of work through the kinks of a new defensive coordinator a little bit quicker than last year. And we'll touch on

that a little bit. But one last point of the press conference yesterday, which you know we should for sure bring up and talk about regardless of how people feel or anything like that, is the fact that the Cowboys are expecting to go beyond that eighty five percent threshold of having vaccinations, which is huge for teams because that starts to take away some of those restrictions that they have.

And Jerry was saying, you know, they have a handful, like about five who haven't had at least one shot. And the reason too, I'm bringing this up is within the hour, Tom pallisera from NFL Network, said that the NFL justin four this in a tweet. The NFL just informed clubs that if a game cannot be rescheduled during the eighteen week season in twenty twenty one due to a COVID outbreak among unvaccinated players, the team with the outbreak will forfeit and be credited with a loss. So

that's huge. So the fact that the Cowboys are, we don't know how close they are. You know, they're not going to share names, and that's not anyone's business and their own decision, but it is important to note that the Cowboys feel confident they're going to reach that threshold, and that Jerry doesn't feel like where they are right now or where they're going to be by the time the season starts is going to hinder them in any

way or be any sort of distraction. Yeah, and you and you want that right, You want the guys to take care of their business on and off the field. And I know that we've we've talked about it at Lens,

at the Wild of Cooler, at the barbershop. Well, what Michael Irvin said, you know about guys being selfish if if you're not doing everything that you can do to avoid having those distractions, and those you know, and you know, Mike's my guy, and Mike's Mike is always going to be about winning and his goal is always to win the championship. But again, his mindset is a different mindset from what these younger kids, these younger generations have and

what they think about. I think Mike never had to deal with this like like in his playing time, Mike never had to deal with this type of none of

us have. Yeah, And so it's always funny to me to have such a matter of fact in a situation where you've never dealt with this, like you've never dealt with a situation like this, because I'm sure and we've heard tons of stories about the things that Michael used to do off the field that sometimes hindered his team on the field, whether it be suspensions or arrest or things of that nature. So and I know that he goes to practice and no one works harder than him,

his leadership and all that. I know, I get it, all that kind of stuff, But you gotta be careful being so matter of fact with issues like this because everyone is dealing with their own personal situation at home with you know, how their body may react to it, their personal experience. They may have had some family members who have been affected by the vaccines they make, you know, so everything is always you can't make it so matter

of fact. And I get Mike can always stay in from a place of we always look at that ultimate leading position, but he had to just be careful about being so matter of fact about things of that nature. And I'm talking person that are personal to people, to individuals. Yeah, but when it comes down to players, when you think about players like you guys, when when you guys want the team, every rep, every down, everything was important to you. And so what's a matter of fact is what Tom

Pellicero just came out with. You know, if something were to happen where there's an outbreak and the guys are missing games because of it, I understand that. Look, I can't tell anybody what to do with their body, right, the social constructs of what's going on, those things speaks for themselves. We're talking about feetball right now, playing ball, all right. And if we're saying that these things are gonna stop you from being able to produce on the

football field, that's all I care about. That's all I care about, because look, when I take my kids to school and they tell me, look, they hadn't had the musical shot, I go to the doctor to give them the musical shot and take them back to school, right,

That's what I do, because they have to learn. We're talking about football right now, and so if this is going to impact the results driven business that we are in in any kind of way, if you are leaning away from that, then that may be something that impacts your football future, right, And so I know, Look, we're talking about life and death absolutely all right. We're talking about life and death as it relates to this. But I'm just talking about the nuances of football, how this

affects your team. And I think that's where a matter of fact, Ley Michael Irvin was talking about. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna stay out of this one for God, because I have my feelings about about this topic, and I'll get into principal's officer. For the most part, I mean it it is I mean what Heckman just said, it is true, right, what you just said, it is true. Everybody can have their opinions, right when it comes to

this whole vaccination thing. The league has their stance. The reality is we have a vaccine that's been out for a year, and there's there's there's there's some information, right, but we don't know long standing things. So guys that stay in behind not getting it, I respect them. Guys

that decide to get it, I respect them. Right. But either way, I think um and the organization of the NFL has every right within their being that they owned the league to say what's mandated and what's not man right, Um, there are consequences to not getting on board with that, right, whether you agree with those consequences or not. Everybody has a choice. So you can choose to get the vaccine or you can choose not to get the vaccine. There's

consequences either way. Um, But I think everybody should be respected regardless of what they what they decide to do, because it is so personal. Um, and there are you know, obviously people have died with the COVID people have died with the COVID shot. So everybody has their own takes on it. UM principles office. Yeah, but I mean that's that's true, right, So I mean, but when it comes to the contract of your team, I'm abously rules or rules, and you can either get on or you get gone.

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Danny Sarak. Nate Newton will be joining us any minute out from Oxnard, California, and Mike McCarthy is out at Oxnard for the first time since he didn't get that last year and his first year as head coach. With training camp, he said his main goal right now is to just kind of establish that winning culture. And I'm curious to ask you guys. We know McCarthy has won before, so he knows what it takes. What will it take for the Cowboys to reach that goal of having that

winning culture? Anything here with the Cowboys short of Lombardi. And I've always felt this way. This this goes for any sport. For me, you don't win a championship, that season is a failure. Now there are lessons that are that are learned in failure, so you can still learn in failure. But have you ever gone to training camp say, you know what, I just want to win eight games this year. This game is too sacrificial, It hurts too much. You spend too much time for the end result not

to be championship. You ever seen anybody wear AFC or NFC championship ring? No, no, me, neither. No funny that you say that. I was in New England the year after they went to the Super Bowl and they lost to the Giants and they got their AFC championship rings and I've never seen a locker room Vince woolffork Tom pissed, like, get these, don't I'll give this to my aunt Like they were like it was like going to secondary family member.

They're like this doesn't go like literally like oh yeah, here, my dad can have this, my mom can have this, like because they were so used to winning Super Bowls that anything less than that wasn't acceptable. Now I know you're gonna say, well, let's win the NFC East and let's win the division. Let's get to the Those are pre RECs. If it ain't super Bowl for me, it's

it's it's nothing. But those things are pre recks though, right, So those things that you have to do right, you have to have a certain winning percentage right to give yourself an opportunity to get to the playoffs, all right, playoffs has to that's a marker, right, We have to get to the playoffs. That's a goal. Cool. Once you get through playoffs, guess what, Now we gotta go out there and we gotta win a game. Okay, all right, now we gotta win another game. So these are all

different goals that are set along the way. But to your point, if you don't win that last game, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because you're coming back and you're sitting at the same team where you're like, all right, what do we gotta do to get to you know, get you know, to get that victory because we didn't get it done right. So whether that conversation comes to the last game or whether you're sitting home, you know, the last game and the first week of January, you know,

it doesn't matter. You know, it's all about those rings. And you know, there's a lot of guys that played this game really well that walked away without rings. And that's ultimately all anybody wants. Yeah, when you when you talk about Mike McCarthy and his first year and COVID and all that, let's let's just put that, just try and put that behind him. And establishing culture was something that he could not do because he didn't have access to his players the same way that he does right now.

I think the thing that's going to serve him well is, look, not having any favorites. Everybody is in here competing. Um, I don't know any of y'all, you know, everybody, I mean, aside from the guys you're paying. Let's not be crazy. But but I'm saying on the defensive side, I don't have any favorites. We're all competing and if you're a guy, you're a name. I don't care if your your numbers hanging up in the pro shop. If you're not doing it on the field, man, I'm like, I'm like Russell

Simmons on Deaf Company. Jim, thank y'all for coming out. God blessing. Now you know you gotta go. And those are the things that this team. We have to turn this roster to find the best guys because last year, if you look at the names that you brought on what in the free agency? What did they get you? They got you nothing. A lot of them were cut really early, cut really early, and guys that you thought were a name that did not produce anything. All right.

I mean, I don't want to swim in the minutia of this, but come on, there was a certain names that you thought that we're gonna do. Terry Pole, the list goes on that couldn't stop up a toilet in Dallas, let alone to run. So let's just just be real about what we need as an organization. So you know for Mike, he's in He's in his back right now, he's in his element. There are no excuses. You got your guys right under your thumb. Even with the protocol of COVID. Still you have your hand on your team.

And this is from everything you guys have talked about God's being able to be together, have that camaraderie. If that is all true, then they should come out of camp a lot better than they went in, all right, because those are these these are the questions that you

gotta answer. And no matter how you sit around and you can have all the conjecture in the world, we were sitting here last year, none of you would have said, man, we're gonna have the worst defense in the league, because there's no way to play for the worst defense in the league. Right. So, I mean, I feel like I feel as though all of these things sound well and good, but at the end of this year is going to give you a complete evaluation of who Mike McCarthy is

as a coach. I think I think with the hiring of Dan Quinn, I think he's really kind of showing his hand in terms of the culture that he's trying to establish. Yep Um last year, I think he had a safe kind of a safe hire and a defensive coordinator. I think this year he really said, okay, I need I need their change his culture. Right. So as we're

talking about culture, you know, a cultural competitiveness, right. I spent time with obviously on the past shows talking about my time in Seattle when Dan Quinn was there, and it's it's hey, every play, every practice is going down, right, and it's one on one, it's team, it's half line, it's everything, and everything is about competition. Everything's high energy. And I think with the hiring Quinn, you're gonna see

that on one side of the ball. Guess what, You're not just gonna see that on one side of the ball. You've got a dog on fossil over there running around running win sprints in practice. Right, So that's two thirds of the game right there. You think McCarthy and the rest of the crew on the offensive side aren't going to make sure that's taken care of. It is going to be a very competitive atmosphere and environment, and it's gonna it's gonna really promote guys that want to show

up and want the ball out. So how long does culture take to change. It could be instantaneous. It just takes. It takes. It takes not only the leadership, consistent leadership. Right, So when we talk about unwavering leadership, you're talking about fossils. He's that way all the time, right, you see, he's always that way. Right. So now he has a dog with him in Quinn who has that same type of energy.

Now we know it's not the same energy on the offici side of the ball with the officive coordinator, right, he doesn't have that energy. But when you have two thirds of the coaches right, the leadership there that are pushing and promoting that, it's going to be contagious. Right. So you're gonna see that going through all aspects of from day one, I can only imagine they won. These boys are gonna be out there competing in some regard, whether pads on, pads off, something is going to be

competitive every single day. And that's how you get that culture started because you don't allow for anything else to creep into your system. Do you think that they were able to take strides towards that culture last year under McCarthy's first year or no, because they didn't have this training camp and everyone being together, and they just kind of got right into the season, like are they starting

fresh this year with that? I think you have to write I think you really had they regardless of what his intentions may have been for last year, that stiff got to de real quick fast, in a hurry, right, Covid knocked it off the rails, right. He tried to get that thing back one and then do half the dog On. You know, Roster got got hurt. So it was very difficult. It was I mean, now we were just talking about it in a break. It was almost impossible.

I don't care who the coach was. You know, you can bring dog On Lombardi back and it still probably would have been a same result last year. Right. It was terrible. It was a bad situation. Yeah, and he tried and he did everything that he possibly could. But we talked a lot about culture. We talked about how he builds it, and you asked a quick, good question like how long does that take? You know we just throw around so loosely, but is there a timeline on

this thing? You know, when someone gets fired, you know, typically he has his guys that he's been drafted and had been a part of that culture. How hard is it to change those guys from that? And I just looked at the OTAs and you know, I say, I preach this to my son, that practice makes permanent. And I feel like when you see a team that doesn't practice with tempo, they don't play with tempo. And everything

from OTAs was tempo driven. If you've ever and you guys have been a part of them NFL practice, so you know, it's everything is timed, everything has its purpose. And so seeing these guys get back to that, I'm hoping that those are the things that resonates with this

team that is transferable to the field. And the reason why I asked a question about how long does it take to change a culture, right, because you have to a lot of guys, not all of them, but a lot of the guys on this roster come from a different culture, a different culture that was instilled in them for a decade, for ten years. And I know that we are we live in this instantaneous world where everything

has to happen right now, yesterday, at this moment. And when you're talking about the Dallas Cowboys, this feeling of twenty five, twenty six years since you've been through a super Bowl, that becomes more and more of a pressing thing. And so I asked the question of how long does

it take to change a culture? Because if Mike McCarthy doesn't get this team in a position NFC Championship Games, super Bowl, something other than what we've seen in the past, they're gonna be standing out here with pitchforks and fires and saying get him out of here. What does that mean? That means that we're gonna have to start all over again with a new culture, right because now either Dan Quinn maybe he gets bumped up the head coach, or is Jerry going out to do another search for another

head coach? And then now you got to bring a new guy in here, and do you move Kellen Moore up? You know, there's there's a lot of different things that can factor into culture change, but but it can be instantaneous. It can be I mean, so like back in the day when you's at the crib and you want of your friends to come over, right, your friends might come from a totally different culture at their house, right, but when they come over to mama's house, there's certain things

that just aren't going to be allowed right. Right, there's there's there's an expectation, and there's a way that you have to move and operate within this house. And guess what, that's the culture that we have and if you want to be a part of this, that's how you got to go. But you're talking about one or two friends. I'm talking about ninety guys. I'm talking about fifty three plus guys. But your season into right, Coach Belichick, how long were you on the roster if if you didn't

get with the culture? No quick, Yeah, you want on that roster very long. Thank y'all for coming out. The goal to get to that winning culture starts today. The Cowboys are eight minutes into their first practice of training camp and we have got eyes and years out from practice out in Oxnard, California with the one need only, the Great Nate Newton. Nate, how you doing, I'm doing great, man, y'all.

Guys up? Oh man, y'all sounds so good again. Back the backstabber, the backstabber, the backstabber, the Judas of the hanging with the boys, the one who will will will smile on your face and get on the road behind your back. You know, the one who takes my pain of my dad leaving me long ago and continue to to to to to to exude this trauma in my

life with the way he treats me. With Nate Newton, I already got the ticket is open ended ticket, just said me when you want to come out, so we stop this wine and to get to the back of the down of topboard and whoever brought up the culture of the difference between going over to Mama's house all Carevis one hundred, You ain't gonna go to mama play that Mike McCarthy is Mama, Nate. The first practice is underway, fans are out there. What what's the atmosphere with all

the excitement just everyone being back out there. Man, they're a pump. That we did Me and Shannon Gross we did a little opening act over up about thirty minutes right at the gate while fans was waiting. Oh man, it was two three hundred people just out there waiting. One guy been out there sinse like four in the morning, just waiting. Manna. The fans are far away, the media is far away, but everybody is hype. Man Tyrone Si looking good, y'all. I mean, I know he's just standing up,

but he's looking good man. So it's just a good situation to be in. Everybody type that we did a stay of address union yesterday with mister Jones them. This is what they wanted and this is what has happening. How you don't add a lot of guys out here? Cowboys still bigger enough for y'all. What have you seen so far? You mentioned Tyron Smith. Does anyone else stood out to you the first couple of minutes of what they're doing out there, Well, when they let me in

at it coursed fat Lineman. They live in near the Lineman. You know, I haven't had a chance to see that. But they're doing team takeoffs right now, going through rope, so you don't see them. But the guys out here, man, you know, injury guys. I'm trying to look and see if it's any injury guys. I don't see any up guys working right as them now, but they're just moving

around having fun. Everybody's out here full goal. I haven't had a chance to take the count because we just finishing the up of the show, but everybody's here seemed to be you know, we got the great Nate Newton live from Oxnard, California, first day of practice for the Cowboys at training camp. Nate, we're gonna keep it in your wheelhouse. You just said, you said, you said, tyring looked really good, and you get you get the president back. And the one person that I'm really keeping an eye

on is Lyell coming off the hip surgery. And you and I've had multiple conversation. There's certain injuries to the big guys that always worry me, right, certain back injuries and then the hips. What are you looking to see

from alignman's perspective? What are you looking to see from a guy like coming off the hip surgery to give you confidence that he's back to the li all that we were, the strong athletic liou that we want to do when he can help this off into line out when he has to stop and bend, when he has to stop and bend that the way and punch a guy on pass rush. Can he stopped and do that and move with this guy latterly once he stopped and

done that. And another thing, I want to see how he take off and hear the guy and see how his leverage is. Because when you get a bad hill, the first thing you lose is your flexibility, and you cannot being at the way. If you cannot being at the way, you're in trouble. You're in trouble, especially versus to run. You know you're in trouble. But I want to see how he comes out of his breaks when guys do double moves on him, and when they power into him, when they power right into that hill. When

he does he is he confident number one? Or does he come up out of that rep you know, kicking out that leg, you know, saying oh that that didn't feel good. So those are the things I'm looking about with him. How who he moves laterally? How is this explosives? And can he change direction? And can he do it? For this camp, we have the They are off tomorrow, y'all, so they will be rested, and then they come back

Saturday and Sunday, and they off Monday. So they got and in the next twelve days they're gonna have two or three off days. So we don't have to worry about whether they gonna get enough rest. Now we're going to worry about their conditioning. Right now, they're doing a lot of running, and I think between drills, during drills, everything is high intense and they're doing a lot of running right now. But that is gonna be the question mark with guys that are coming off injuries. Where are

the base foundation at for physical fitness? Hey, Nate heck Ma Harrison here, man, I gotta ask you as far as the defensive line, man you, Quentin Bohannon, urban guys like that, what are you looking for out there practice right now? For the defensive line going into the season knowing that they have to be a whole lot better than they were last year. I'm with you, I'm with you and I and the whole defense what we call a players to watch. But I am looking at the

two interior guys. I'm looking at the guy you just mentioned. We need for the tackles, the d tackles and the pre technique to be dominant. You need Patrician Hill, depending on how they're gonna do him or Paul or he's not may not start the season. We're looking for Gallimore to do great things. The guy that you mentioned earlier, I can't think of his name. We're looking for him to do greatly. We need for our inside guys to be dominant. If our inside guys to make an impact,

then I know Gregory can play. We know d Law can play. We know that we can put Jalen in a rush mode and he gonna be all right. Uh, that's what we're looking for, man, that's what Ken Ken Bradley our nay. Can he do something this year? We got a lot of young guys out here, We got a lot of talent out here. Or can they driving in the right way? And another thing I'm looking at Fellers. I know y'all asked about it. What defense are we gonna really runs? We're gonna be truly a four three defense.

It's gonna be a lot of hot bread stuff like it was last year. What what defense are we gonna run? Where are these guys shit in that? And how quick can we get the young guys acclimated to how the pro game is played? What's up? What's up? Minish boy? Isaiah? Hey man? How you going? I'm good man about yourself? Great? Good good? Hey. As a former old lineman, as you step up into camp right now, who are the four defensive linement that you do not want to line up against?

If you had to go out there in line up right now, someone in our guys, yep uh, I probably fear d Law and Gregory d Law because he's just uh great technicians, Gregory because he's a great athlete. The other guys, man, I hate to tell you, boy, if it was a young Nate Knew, the old Nate Knews, I don't want to line up against none of them. Now I don't want old Date Knew. I do not feel what I have not seen to do nothing, Nate.

We saw last year center Tyler Bodist kind of start to get some starts and get some more experience, and he missed a game or two with a hamstring injury. But now he's the guy at center. What are you expecting to see from him in training camp? Seeing some guys come with a reputation, like you know, the North Caroline of guys adjusted him. They come with a reputation for us great basketball players. Wisconsin guys come with a reputation.

They're gritty, they're tough, and more importantly, they're smart. It ain't many things that the NFL is going to show him that's totally different. No more than the quickness and size of players. You know, so he should be able to get in call the defenses, line the offensive line up right. No, the strength to the weaknesses and make adjustments to that point and the rest of it just gonna be how tough, how physically tough you want to be if you know he's gonna be mentally tough, but

how still good tough can he be? And does he have the technique to suspend Ain't through the season. Well, we know that the big money guy out there, number four, Dak Prescott, he finally got his contract, We got all that stuff behind him. He's coming off the ankle injury. What do we have to see from Dak Prescott to give us the confidence that he's back? You know, we've seen some things in OTAs he wasn't allowed to do live team stuff. Uh, you know, rolling out some stuff

like that. We were kind of like, uh, what do you want to see during training? Kempt that'll give you the confidence that, you know, what for is back. He's ready to go. He's repped up, the ankle is fine, and he's able to go out there and winning some uh some football games. You know what. The only way we're gonna know is when he gets tackled, and I don't want to see it. You know, Dak is mentally ready, bro.

You know he's mentally ready. But it's all it always comes to when a guy rolls close to that ankle or when he could when he's throwing a ball to somebody him download and he has to get up and throw the next fad When I see that next fast if that happened, which I hope it don't, go and train a camp and then I want to see how he react the rest of the Franks after that scare, you know, And I hope it's only a scare if

that happened. And I hate to even speak that way, yeah speak speaking on the number four, big n How long should we what's what's a realistic expectation in terms of the timeline for us to see the continuity of the officer line come back to ensure the safety of big number four, oh man, by the second game, second

or third game, man, these guys should be ready. I mean you you if they still do the third game deal where they played three quarters, then you had that off week, and then you go into the first game and everybody gets the chance to beat up on everybody in that second or third game. You should see these guys ready because they are not rookies. They're not first, second, or third year guys. They are guys that have been in the league five, six or seven years and something more.

So he should make take two or three games. You know, if no one gets injured and they stayed together, it should say number on two or three games. Man, to get this thing going. Man, this is a Zeke year. This is a Zeke year. Go here you go, now, I'm just here. You go with this again. Man came through your daddy, and you know what, be our analyst. You're gonna load up as he could getting this year. But but you want to talk about that on a

later day, Yes, sir, we will, thank you. Nate. Uh. Since so many of these offensive linemen are coming off of injuries and surgeries, do you expect them to play a little more than maybe normal in preseason games or this Hall of Fame game. No, no, ma'am, No, ma'am. You do what you do. You do what you do. Lyell has to get him a few more reps in practice. He has to test himself. The coaches have to push him to a certain limit. You know, he gets that preseason game, he may play a half, he may play

three quarters. They may play less, but when the game starts they should have them ready, Jim Mayer and what's how other boy, Jesse Yawn. These guys will get them right. These are the best in the business. They will have him right. Yeah. Well, hey, Nate, I gotta I gotta ask you about Zeke because I feel like he is so pivotal to the success of the Cowboys. Now he

came back into camp Halter top Zeke. Now, let me ask you if if they had any Instagram or social media out back when you were playing and you had a down year, when you slimmed down like that, Nate, Oh yeah, I've done that several years. Man. Every now and then, I just come back to the Cowboys now, just slimmed down. Just let them, that's all. Let the world, let the world know justice that we could do it, that's all. Sometimes you got to remind people who they

messing with, Nate, That's right. Every now again, take his shirts shirt off in front of us. You know, he'll he'll play for chairs, He'll he'll do us a little fist, you know. Yeah. I think you'll let people know you steal it out. And that's what Zeke doing this year. Huh. He let he letting folks know that he's back. Look at him, bro when he started having around by five point two yards care five point two yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Any more questions like I gotta practice, I gotta tend y'all,

try to give y'all more information to Mars. It's okay, Hey, we appreciate that. Nay, thanks for calling in and giving us the four one one. We appreciate it. Have fun out there, Stay away from that, stay away from that bottom man, I thank you. They knew the alphrom Oxnard, California. Oh man, that's so great. Hey, and Zeke's birthday, Happy birthday, it is twenty six. He's listening right now. You know

he probably doesn't have, you know, air pods. Inner you know, Boes had phones in out on the practice field, but uh, Mamma Elliott might be listening, though, Mamma d might be listening. She pushed him out to him. Happy birthday to Zeke, Happy birthday to Zeke. Okay, good boy, we're gonna take our last break here on hanging with the boys, and we're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about the offense as the Cowboys in our underway with their first

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skill levels. Spots are limited. Register today at Dallas Cowboys dot com slash academy. Do you hear that, Jesse? All skill levels are accepted if you're interested. Gotch Welcome back in Hanging with the Boys. Welcome back into a special edition at Hanging with the Boys. Do We deserted from Nate noon out at practice out at Oxnard, and he had some good things to say. We talked about Dak

Prescott a little who's a full go now. He didn't participate in any of those team drills any point leading up to this point in the off season, but Mike McCarthy said he will be full go, which is great news. There is one position group offensively that we haven't really touched on that I want to talk to you guys about, because Blake Jarwin is also back the ACL injury. In Week one. He's back. He was not put on the Populist today with a few other players, which means he's

already full go. However, Dalton Schultz had a phenomenal breakout year last year. So now the Cowboys are going to have to figure out, are you still going to stick with Blake Jarwin as your number one tight end or should they start doing some more twelve personnel stuff? What's twelve sure to Will? What is nineteen ninety six? What is twelve personnel happening? Danny? This is we're talking about

eleven ten personnel, And God bless Dalton Schultz. He got a chance to get out there and play last year. Step to the side, a little buddy, the big Daddy's back, Blake Will, Blake will resume his natural position as a starting tight end. Um. I think you get more athleticism with him. I think you get better route running with him. I think you get more big play potential with Blake Jarwin,

and then you do with with Dalton Shorts. And when you look at where this offense is going to be going in the future, it ain't gonna be twelve personnel, Danny Serak. It's gonna be eleven personnel, ten personnel, oh one personnel. Where you're saying, you know what, pick your poison, because I'm I'm gonna spread you wide and I'm gonna cut you up. Whether it's gonna be Gallop on the outside, on the number three cornerback, Seede Lamb on a linebacker

or safety, or the two cornerback Mary Cooper. Just we don't give enough Mark Cooper enough love. He just goes out there and just puts in, just just work. He I mean, one of the best route runners that we have in this league. You're gonna get a little bit of Zeke. You're gonna don't get a lot of Zeke. You're gonna get a little bit of Tony Pollo come out of the backfield, and then you're gonna add Blake

Darwin to the mix. It's it's for this team offensively, it's going to be spread you out and pick your poison because you're just gonna have open dudes running around this field all over the place. Yeah, it's too much. It's too it's too much. Um. I don't disagree that we will see some twelve right, I don't think that we're gonna see a whole lot of it. Um, But

I don't line Yeah, rid Zone d zone. I mean, but but you know, to Jesse's point, the reality is we got three dogs out there, and then you add Jarwin in there. He's a fourth dog. They gave him the money for a reason. It's unfortunate that he got hurt last year. But when you think about what that offense presents itself, ass when you have Jarwin, who can detach right or you just keep his hand in the ground right, But if you were to detach jar Winn right, you can go two by two set right where you

got dog on coop Jarwin freaking gallop and CD. That's a problem. Oh and by the way, there's a dude number twenty one in the backfield too, So it presents some real problems. Um, it's gonna be scary, but all the versatility in the world, I can't wait to see it. Look God leegu hause I disagree. No no, no, no, no no. What what I'm saying is I think with in the tight ends. No, no, the tight end scenario.

I just felt like Dalton showed showed you that he had something, you know, I thought that you could build on that because he also is a pretty decent pass run blocker, and I think those were some of the things that you questioned about Jarwin and his ability to block. If you're gonna get the most out of twenty one, you're gonna need a tight end that can do that. And you can't have any packages where you take him out when it's a running down. You can't disguise that.

So if you're talking about fantasy throwing it all around, and you know, I know a lot has been made about the three thousand yard receivers, but if your defense and let's not even do that, if no, not gonna go there. What I'm saying is you have to have

that balance in your running game as well. And a guy like Hedrin James, and I bring him up because when you talk about the three thousand yard receiver scenario, when you look at the teams that have done that, the five teams that have done that, Edwin James was on two of those teams, and I think what makes him enter and James dynamic is his ability to catch passes out of the backfield. And I think that's what

Zeke brings to the table as well. So if you if you look at that, you have to understand that you're gonna have to be able to disguise a lot of that. And if you're just spreading people out and saying, hey, who's gonna will turn around and hand him the ball, you're not putting him in an advantage either with your scheme. No, I agree on both ends, right, I agree on both ends. That's why I said I'm a fan of twelve person now. It's just because of the versatility. And we've talked about

that on on episodes of Hit Sticks. Where you can go out there and you can line up with Doug on coope and you can line up on the other end whether you want to put gallup on the outs or if you want to throw CD on the outside, and then you have Scholtz and then you have jar One in there, and then you obviously have Zeke in the backfield. The versatility and the options that you have to where you can go alert, alert and they don't know what direction you're going, right, gives you all the

security in the world. Now. Will showed up and showed us butt last year. He was a high effort guy when it came to blocking. I'm not gonna say that he was successful, right and helping him say that he was a Scessbut blocking but he was a high effer guy and he definitely got better, and I think he blew out everybody's expectations for him when he got thrown

in that situation. But the reality is, when it comes down to your premiere down tight end, he's fifteen pounds lighter than Jarwin, he's slower than Jarwin, he's left, he's less shifty than Jarwin, and he has a lesser check. So the reality is Jarwin's gonna be on the field right Schultz will be a heck of a heck of an asset to add to him. If you want to go into a wing set, if you want to go buy a three by one, if you want to go into a two by two, it's gonna be awesome. But

he's not. He's not the guy. And I agree. I'm sorry, I agree. I agree with that, And I think that's why the tight end position is so pivotal when it comes down to Dak and his injury. I think your first resign, your first read is right there in front of you, the middle of the field. That's where he's gonna be looking. Uh. And so if we're looking for him to get the cobwebs out, because he's gonna be there.

He's missed a half a year of football, and so you've got to look for him to be comfortable and his pass and says with his tight end, and so he's comfortable with you. And I think when you talk about the blocking scheme and you talk about all those different type of things, well, one, you can still go the opposite way, right, so if he lies up on the right, you can send the guys to the left. That's not that's not that's not a hard part to do.

But what you also fail to realize is is that when you have the more athletic guy on the field, now I dictate what the defense does. Now, you can't have that big lug on the defenside of the ball. You gotta bring in Nickel, you gotta bring in dime, you gotta bring in some specialty player because he's too fast for a linebacker and he's too big for a Nickel or Dime or safety. So now what I'm doing is when I spread these guys out, I bring in

guys who make business decisions about tackling. And so that's what the point where I'm saying, I'm gonna I'm gonna take my chances with twenty one in the backfield and some guy with the number thirty or twenty or single digit or whatever, whatever whatever number you want. Now I'm gonna take my chance with them trying to tackle him

over and over and over again and again. If you're if you're gonna, if you're gonna give me crop top zeke, then the guy out there a number twenty shouldn't tackle you. If you're gonna give me crop top zeke, if you're gonna show me that this is the new one approved zeke, or you're going back to where you was when you first got here, then the guy from the secondary shouldn't be able to tackle you. When you start bringing in

those bigger guys. Now you're bringing guys with the fifties and the fortage on their numbers, and they are willing to tackle. They want to get in there, and they want to muck it up a little bit. I like the idea of spreading these guys out and now having these other guys have to come up on a consistent basis and have to put their shoulder up against twenty one.

I like my chances with twenty one in that situation all day long, and now you get that when you have Blake Jarwin in there, because even to your point, if that's going to be Dak's primary read over the middle short getting the ball out quick, well, I want the guy who does a little bit better than the other guy. I want a guy who does it quicker and more athletically, who can body you up and once he catches it. We've seen it time and time again before.

Remember we had this other guy that we had here a long time ago. He won't umbraty two. He'll be Hall of Famer, we'll get it. But it was like, you catch it that six yards, it's a six yard game. This guy can catch it that six and it'd be a twenty six yard game. I want that guy on the field as much as I possibly can because he's going to bring more dividends and more success to my

offense and the other guy. Yeah, and he showed you he and I believe with you know, Jarring went down the first game all right, and Scholtz had to do it for the rest, and he showed you that he has that versatility to do it. I'm not saying, obviously, like you said, the paycheck is different, the draft order is different. All of those things, and so you realize

the talent all. What I'm saying is the guy that you consider to be at the beginning of the season last year as one see, maybe he's a one B. Right, So I'm just saying I don't want to just relegate this guy to the jumpster. I just think he has he has. You are elated that you have him on your roster at this point, Yeah, absolutely, with that, with that year of experience he would have. I want to call him to Okay, okay, don't just no, no, no, no, just don't just give me the okay, Jesse, come on,

don't work. If you wouldn't, I want to fight. I want to argue. They are not on the same line. They're not in the same dog. Okay, atmosphere, all right, chart you don't see one A one be on the depth chart. You see one and then you see two. He's two. Well, we got two people that just went to space. One person went here, other person went ten miles further. So they both went to space. But one person a just one was one, one was two. You know, one guy will play a lot of special teams, the

other one won't. Huh. I can already tell that the Hanging with the Boys podcast from here during training camp, it's just saying to be a joy every week. Tight Ends is one of the many positions we're gonna keep our eye out for a position battles throughout training camp. The first practice is underway from Oxnard, California. To be sure to stay tuned to Dallas Cowboys dot com for all of your updates. There for Jesse, Holly, Isaiah standback,

heck My Harrison, I'm Danny Stragg. Thanks for tuning in to Hanging with the Boys. We'll catch y'all next time. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.