Hangin' with the Boys: So Over It

eighty seven. High of ninety four, low of seventy five. Let's go before we get going, Thoughts and prayers out to everyone on the Gulf Coast. Yes, and my people back in Louisiana. Hope everybody's safe and can care of yourselves. Nasty storm last night, but get ready. As Nate just told us before we came on the show, for forty five minutes of excitement, you are listening to Hanging with the Bars. Nate Newton, Jesse Holly. We're without Kurt today.

Kurt's a little under the weather, so hopefully he'll be back with us on Wednesday when we come back and Shannon Gross hosting this thing, and man, we are the first show of record to talk about the last preseason game of the year. Thank god it's over. What did you guys, anything to take away from Nat? The only thing that I I think, the only thing I took away from that game is that Tie and Sky did not play. So that kind of makes me think that

he's on the team. Are you not? Everybody jumping? Don't help me out at all. Let me let me say this. Let me say this. I have nothing positive to say, and my grandmam and my mom always tells me if you have nothing positive to say, So, Jesse, I spoke to him at length right before we came. You don't jive say about what anything about football in general, about this team, about the last preseason game, what jes offensive line? Jesse. What's Nate trying to say? Nate is trying to say

that he's over preseason. No, not only preseason, but Nate's over the handling of which this team goes about their business. Nate's over the fact that we think we can just show up and because we have the star on our helmets, because we have some names, because we have a couple of guys who have some contracts that we just show up and wins will just fall in abundance in our lap. And that's not the truth. And I know that, and I'm not talking about the last preseason game. I know

thirty something guys. Plea goes back to last year and the year before, but it just it's just Nate's kind of on the point of here we are getting ready

to enter into a season, not like we've come. We've come off a championship winning season and have a championship winning roster, and just the way that the Cowboys have gone about their their business this entire offseason, this entire preseason, with holding guys back, not playing guys all these days off, you know, last preseason, and I know that we had

four this year. Other people's had three. But just the fact of the matter that you set thirty something plus guys out as if none of those guys may have needed work or could have used some extra work, or could have used some just another opportunity to go out there and get some live action against and at least a decent quarterback in Trevor Lawrence here. I mean, he's no Hall of Fame quarterback yet but he's probably the best they would have seen so far. And I think

that's just where he's at with that. And it's it's a little bit frustrating because we put on this front as if we are the greatest thing since sliced bread, and we aren't, but we act as if we are. Yeah, is there anything to be said for them just trying to get to the season healthy and holding these guys out. We watched practice, me and you just we watched it, and the practice were Chris, they were good, So the

coaches may have gotten what they needed, Jess. But the first preseason game, we get into the red zone twice, we give up a sack by the guy that did not play this last preseason game. Then the quarterback the next play, whether whether they were both at fault. The first play, the quarterback three step drop, hold the ball, boom, got beat him inside, left ticker, all of a sudden, next play, left ticker, get beat inside again. Quarterback get hit kills that drive. We come to the second game,

we throw interception as we're going across the forty. We have not had a clean Chris drive opening go back, and look, we have not as a backup quarterback as a backup offensive line had a clean just a drive. Now we got fortunate a game ago, and oh well, let's put Cooper Russian in boom, all of a sudden we score. Well, let's start Cooper Russian game. But oh not, Gilberts.

I'm like saying to myself, this is too inconsistent. And I understand they had their starters and we had our backups, but what about when we had our backups versus their backups? We still didn't look good. We still to me, who is our swing tackle? Who is our swing tackle? Still? No, he gave up a sack opening up the first drive here in this pass game. And I'm not saying that these guys cannot be game playing and things can be

better because you game planning. But when you saw the one on one skill factor, I love tackle tie In Sinky, and our right tackle still did not play well the whole preseason. So I want I want to know what gives unless he's hurt, and I will apologize if Ty's hurt, But what gives him the right to think that he don't need to practice? I'll be it our play a whole game that that that bothers me because Tyron Tyron Smith. I'm announcing it right. He has got it, he got it? Yeah,

Why y'all laughing at me? Are you laughing? Why are you laughing? Because may it's just ty I got it right? Yeah? Well Smith Smith, you got that part right. Smith. I'm gonna tell you so you can laugh all you won't, but it won't be funny if this kid go down hurt and we got to deal with these swing tackles, it won't be funny then. All right, So you guys, how about you, Jesse? Are you is there anything to be said for Obviously this coaching staff is just wanting

to get to the season healthy. Is there anything to be said for that? Are you willing to risk that to get more game speed reps? Because you got some dudes that have, think about it, even just this season, guys that have had, you know, health issues, Tank Amari Dak obviously, Uh, ty Ron Smith. Tyrant is nice? Tyrant? Where did this come from? Yeah, I'm just letting you know. I know his name. I'm gonna let you know. I

know his name. Yeah, yeah, I know his name. But here's my biggest thing, and it all goes back to the repetition part of things. And with this new way that practice is being done. And maybe I'm the old guy, get off my long type of guy. There just isn't enough practice, or that these guys don't practice enough by schedule and by I guess caution or preservation from the

coaching staff and the medical staff. Amari doesn't practice enough, Dak hadn't practiced enough, Tank hadn't practiced enough, Tyring hadn't practiced. These guys and they'll come in and even when they are live participants in practice, well, they're gonna do some one on one stuff, and they'll do some some team they'll do some line up stuff, and then we get to the team period and they're not in the team period.

So to me, the level of ink insistency of all these guys piecing I think for the first time was it maybe a week ago. It was the first time we had all participants in the last six months. So it bothers you that they're not out there as a functioning whole unit is the big thing for you. I watched a little bit of that Tampa Bay game, and I watched just how surgical that offense was and how they just moved down the field and Tom with seven for seven, and I think about what we have to

go up against in that type of unit. And then I watch, like you've you've you've birth it. Trey Von Diggs as your starting cornerback who only played a half a season, who still needs a ton of a lot of work. He's not He ain't Dion. Then you don't know if it's Kelvin. You don't know if if it's if Brown, You don't know if it's going to be the Oregon State kid. All those guys need work. Then who's gonna be playing in the slot. You still don't

show about a safety situation. And then I watched those guys. I watched Tampa Bay work offensively, and I'm saying, oh boy, this is what we're getting ready to walk into that firestorm. When you see how surgical he is, Tom Brady, I'm talking about getting ready for the And then you look at what they do defensively. All those guys are there, all those guys are playing, all those guys are participating. I just I just look at how they're entering the

season and how we're entering the season. And yes, I'm thankful that we're healthy, absolutely, but I just don't know I just don't like the fact that we are just so inconsistent where guys participating in practice and in preseason games and just all around playing together. And god forbid if we have any more of these situations where a guy test positive or close contact or something like that, because now you're gonna you know, you're gonna miss a

couple more days because of that as well. So it's just a weird time that we're in. And this team is approaching this as if they have a formula that has been successful and conducive to them winning a lot of games and going with people into the playoffs, and we hadn't had that for a very long time. Coach parcel I said, if you can, if you've seen it once or twice, then you know what they expect. But we haven't seen it. That's my only thing. I haven't

haven't seen them together with everybody clicking. And they can come to the first game and be clicking, and you know, I weren't about to be more excited than me. But I got road to seventeen and oh yeah yeah, I mean, all right, let's take our first break when we come back a lot to get to did we learn anything about the backup quarterback backs. Rude Cuts are tomorrow, Minshew has already been traded. What positions would you guys go

along at? And what were what are the last What are the days like right now for these guys between as former former Bubble and cut guys? What are these What are these guys doing today while they're wait on tomorrow because they don't have practice today or tomorrow? What are they doing? What's going through their mind when we come back? I wanna hanging with the boys, Honey, big news? Gary? Are you okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jackie Flash.

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it wasn't. You know. We're talking about black brother with the dreads. I'm sorry if you see me tomorrow morning, please but as you brother with the dreads, you ain't promote yourself now he just try cut him out. Hey, to everybody that does listen to the show, we love each and every one of you. We we really enjoyed doing this show. The show is fun and we will take calls soon, I promise, But with this forty five minute format and so much to get through, we just

don't have time to take calls right now. So everybody hitting us up want us to take calls, we will do that very soon. All right? Should we even talk about this? This might be the quickest segment ever. Backup, quarterback? Do we even need to talk about it? We're screwed. Denuci's gonna wind up being on the practice squad again. Everybody's gonna be mad because he's there. And then you still don't know if Cooper Rush or Gilbert's gonna be your number two? Right? Is it back to Gilbert? Now

that's that's the decision for the head coach. Does it matter? No? Okay, move on, all right, good talk? On that one. Um, if we ever get to the backup quarterback, just know, people, we're screwed. Don't just seem deserved to have a competent one. I don't you know what. I don't think I would go spend four or five million dollars to get one. You did last We did last year and it didn't help. You did the same thing you spent a little bit

money with. Uh with the Castle situation, Yeah, it didn't help, didn't work. Who else do we had? Didn't we Who else do we have? You've had a few come through here, and it's just like, if your guy goes down, and I know, I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to if that goes down for four or five games, you want a guy that's gonna win you two or three games to keep you in the hunt. But at what costs, Like if you go spend that money, I just I don't know if I would do it, especially

this late in the game. I don't think I would do it since we're gonna be worrying about finances. Uh, let's let's wait three or four games. See where the defense that if the defense whooping ahead and doing what they're supposed to do and being able to turn the ball over and go get a guy. You go get a guy. Give this chance team a chance. Cause the Tennessee Titans, we're kind of before they got their guy, Tannehill, they were kind of in this situation and they battled

every year to make sure they get us. They'd be fightful that last playoffs spot, and a couple of years they got in. Don't this team deserve that too? If the defense, now, if the defense is just giving up gobs and gobs of points, don't you know I kind of like that mentality. Let's see where you're at on defense, because if you don't, if your defense is any any resemblance of last year, it don't matter who you put in there. If you ain't scoring forty, you don't really

have a chance to win a game. So why go waste that money? But if you got a defense is holding guys to twenty twenty five points, go invest, trade somebody do something which you think I like that, Nate? Yeah? You think? I mean you're given that. You said we have the defense six weeks, no, no, four to five? Yeah? Yeah, because the reason I say six six weeks before you

panic to five. This because the way coach Quinn is working these guys, and the way these guys have seemed to understand who they are and what they are, and the way and the way they're not waiting with the young players. They're there even though that's all they have as young players, and everybody else heard or either on the COVID list, you know, so you four to play

these guys. But let's see on the fire. Because when I turn on my radio this morning, you know, coming in the NFL network, and this dude went play by play with Tom Brady, the radio announcer, I said, God, that's what got me in a panic, and Tom Brady complete it with a touchdown seven for seven. Sometimes I'm like, oh my god. I know it's preseason and they're not supposed to we we we Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is who we dream to be with dominant receivers, could running

back and a quarterback. Yeah. And what you want to do is I want to create matchup problems at every single turn. And I want to have a quarterback that comes to the line of scrimmage and says, here's where the football is going to go and why and get it there. Quickly, and that's why when I watched that, I saw that and it just was bing bing bing bing bing bing. Touchdown. But that comes with practice, practice, that comes with being able to be out there. That

comes with and again we all understand it. We all know if it was left up to Dak, he would practice as much as he possibly can. I'm not calling him out. I'm just saying overall the approach that they went into it, and it feels more, I'm gonna be honest with you, it feels more of a little bit of self preservation. For Mike McCarthy, Wait a minute, have you turned no? No, no, no, no no, no, no, no

my guy. But I think for him is he's more so of I want to do whatever I possibly can to just get there and then once we get there, then I figure the rest out. But it just feels like there is no you know, Bruce Arian says, no risk it, no biscuit, and I seem like Mirke McCarthy

is saying the opposite, the opposite, like I ain't. I just want to because it went so bad last year, and he knows, and like we know, we can't have a performance offensively, defensively or as a team that what we had last year, because if we do, the very likelihood of him being replaced is high. So it's just like, I'm like, it seemed like he's more of on this reserve type deal of I just want to get everybody

to Week one and we'll see what happens. Then, Well, if we upset them town for bab bandism, I mean bucks, you know you know I'm not. I'm just gonna wait and see. I'm not upset like you guys. I'm just gonna wait and see. Is this the right way to do it. I don't know because we've never seen but we've never seen it. But the MS, the Rams, the Rams do it this way. They have more practices. They

players are required to practice a little bit more. They have, you know, the inter squad scrimmages between other teams, so you see more. And we had a bunch of walks through the see. But what scares me is we had even would have just had one or two series where we was in the red zone. The first game the first pre season, we rid zone twice and and just bad think quarterback held the ball left tackle just give I mean give up a sack like whoa. That was too quick on the three step drop? How do you

give him a sacking on three step drop? And so you said to myself, wow, And then you watch the other games, and then you flip over here to Kansas City, or you flip over here to Tampa Bay and they back up quarterback just nine nine for eleven backups. We got backups and our back ups practicing every day like they backups, and I'm like, wow, they can't be that moven. Even more so because our starting quarterbacks now practice here. And here's why I think we also have this panic mold.

It wasn't practicing because we've seen too much of these damn backups. Yeah, this is why, because if we would have seen a a full on training camp of a lot of Dak in practice every single day, we wouldn't have this level of anxiety about it. We've seen Garrett Gilbert too much, We've seen Cooper rushe Ben Ducci too much, and so we've had this long drawn out opportunity to pick them apart. Is because we've seen much of all.

You've seen me and Chris talk about that out of practice all the time, you forget how good Dak is because you haven't seen him and when he gets back out there, it's just like, like you said, being being being, but we haven't seen it in a game to make us feel better about Okay, are they on the same page at game speed like practice? Okay? And then right right on top of that, all we can remember is last year's defense. Yes, yeah, like I memory, we are no points and that's ext in our mind. How many

points get scored against us? Yeah, and that's the thing, like we don't have any good memories to kind of hang our hat on. It's like even like we can't think back to the first three or four games of that season. Even then we struggled in. We scored a

lot of points, but we struggled in. So I don't know, we're we're like almost in like in this ps PS what's called TSD situation where we're trying to we're trying to find some good things, but we we get reminded that Garrett Gilbert is here or that isn't that just being a cowboy fan in general? Because right when you get over it, you're like, I'm moving forward. I'm forgetting

the past. Damned happened to wowow. But if we if we would have seen a series or two or three of Zeke Dak Yes, yeah, yes, CD yeah, two or three series. People like oh, because then we're gonna say, oh, forget what those guys look like. Did you see those first rest of them? You know what I'm saying. But we but we always see we see Zeke laughing on the sideline eating sunflower seeds. We see Dak changing hats every single game, you know what I'm saying. We see

rolling up wormies. Yeah, you know what those things called gummies? Gummy? Yeah, what mean, don't eat on the candy on the sideline. I'm like, yeah, things. But and then we get hard knocks, right, which then takes a deeper dive look into boy things about around there right when you gotta figure out my man with the contact and you gotta listen to Benja Nucci throw three and the So it's like everywhere that

we turned, we're not we're not getting anything rosy. We're getting all of the kind of the bad side of what this football team could be because we don't see enough of the good side. And what's that game that you and Chris play, Call of Duty? It seemed like

a lot of that's happen. And then you know what they're gonna They're gonna roll out to Tampa Bay in a week and a half and they gonna whoop the whoop the Bucks, and everybody's gonna be like, man, they knew what they were doing all along, and you know what they had play. They got they got me room, and they got into the party and they figured it out. I would dance with the homecoming Queen. I would. I would be on board with that. If that was the case and that happened, I would be like, Okay, let's

go freaky Mike. So you heard it here. If they beat the Bucks, everybody in this room was gonna be like, Okay, I was wrong. Everybody that I was wrong, and please bring it back hard knocks next year. I'll be down with it. But now you have to do more than one game like that. But but that's going back to what but going back to what you just said, that's

typical cowboys. Yeah, it is. The will suck you in and they'll suck you in and we'll don't beat Tampa by two touchdowns and then get boat raced by the Chargers. You don't do that. But that's but that's that's the cowboy life. That we've lived. Don't do that right, that's the roller coaster. That's the roller coaster. Like we roller coast in this. We'll beat well Man. We'll be out there on on on six thirty five, celebrate like we want to beat Tampa Bay by two touchdowns and the

whole city will be lit. Which one of you driving? Which one of you flying the flag after window? Don't bring that up driving me, Nate, don't bring that stuff. But that's a bad reference. Let's take a brapping man, Let's get away from that. Let's take a break. Bring trauma. What did you do you fly? The next year? I pick up at airport. Cut, I need you to pick me up at the airport. Don't roster and cuts when we come back. Hey with the boy, Hey cowboys fans.

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a whole lot to talk about. But one thing before we get out of here them on the show today cuts or tomorrow at four pm, I believe Central time. What positions we did you go along at? Where would you keep an extra guy on this team? Then missus Jones said, your guy made it, Malik Turner. I don't know. Did you hear that yesterday? Chris, I couldn't hear him. I'm saying, yeah, Malikue Turner, he made the team. Nate said he thought he heard mister Jones say that he

was on the team. I think he said, Malikue Hooker. Yeah, yeah, he's on the bubble. He would be your sixth receivers receiving thank you, thank you. Yeah. Okay, well, okay, that's already understood. That's where they're going along at a safety Yeah. So I'm telling it's right here. You Finally we got linebackers that can be on the special teams. And I think that's where we should go along at, you know, because finally we got linebackers that can play on the

special teams. And if you got good line good athletic linebackers that can play all the special teams, you tend to have a strong dad and your safety's like, you know, that is a good thing. I don't you brought it up special teams. I don't want to spend more than less than a minute on you better spend you better spend more than a minute, because that is what besides the defense that I just want to talk about the kicker. Does it bother you that the kicker missed the Was

that the only field goal he's tried in preseason? But he kicked it about seventy five yards, but he just missed it a little left? Does that bother you with a bad back that he played? No, Na, you just now he goes back to him. My original point, nobody's practiced nobody. Yeah, nobody's practicing enough. And then you know he's been on the was a pup. He's been on the pupple I are whatever. He's been for the entire

training camp. Yeah, it's been on a pup and then you put him in the game and you have him kick. Was it fifty two yards? It was fifty seven, so I mean it would have been good from about seventy when you think Chris, yeah, oh yeah it was. But here's the thing about that is I looked at his stats. His longest is sixty one, but he picked it like seven years ago. His longest since then as like fifty eight, So that would have been close to his longest he's made in the last six years. So it does it

does mean no good. If you're driving the wrong way fast, it doesn't no good. And he kicked in the mile outside of the uprights. I mean, so my point is is that those are the small things, like they're gonna come a point in time, we're gonna need a field goal, Yeah, a fifty seven yard or maybe yeah, all right, It's not like he missed it like way left. I mean he I mean, it was barely by the left uprights. Still three did it go through? But it did not

go three points? Three points. Good observation, Chris, But say your point is almost gotten to that end zone in San Francisco. Yeah, they didn't give me six quit celebrating for it didn't give me six Okay, since we think maybe linebacker and safeties where they will go long, are you concerned about any positions? What position group concerned you on this team? Offensive line? Really? I would agree yeah, because because the depth or just because you hadn't seen

him work together. Both Yeah, and I don't know. I feel like we're being like the negative show right out the gate. But lyell stingers for the second time. And for those that don't know, anytime you're dealing with stingers, that's that's a ligament muscial type issue. The only way you get only way you deal with those rest rest, which means he won't be practicing and which means can flareback up again at any point in time of the season,

Right Tyron Tyron Smith. It's not if, but when he's going to miss two or three or more games this season, and when you go back and you got Steal you got and Secky you got. Um, what's the other ball? Ball? Like these are the guy that you're gonna now have to march out there, when these are the guys who were given up sacks on three step drops. So to me, what is his strength if healthy if you could promise

me that that our offensive line. Oh and by the way, like Nate said earlier, if Tyler Biadish happens to go down for any given reason, we now have to change our completely. We have to change the way we approach offensive offensive play calling completely because whoever's the backup center, Connor Williams, he can't shotgun snap. Did I see him yesterday? I don't think so. He's in COVID. Remember he was in the COVID. I thought that was Connor McGovern. It

was Williams over sixty six was playing. You look at all you look at all these things you're saying. Man, if if one of three of those guys go down, we had some sort of trouble. If your left tackle goes down, you in some trouble. You can probably get over a little bit if your right tackle goes down, because you can move Zack Martin out there and kind of piece something together or put a tight en on that side a little bit, or the back will always

go to that side to help out. But if your center goes down and now one of one of those those snaps goes over dak heads or between his legs or to the left or to the right because or we have to do everything under shotgun I mean understanding now, because we can't do shotgun because you don't know when the next snap is gonna go over his head. That's

concerning to me. You're concerned about a position group, Nate, that's when we talked about that's say everything we talk You don't want a problem, you know, and uh, it's just you know, you you go to bed at ninety one and the last things you pray for and oh yeah, okay, God, don't let the Cowboys get hurt because they ain't never shoulders there if they lose one guy that they can win without losing this one guy. You know, I'll tell you what. We got five four and a half minutes left.

I don't like the way this show is gone for the last forty minutes. All right, let's end this on a positive note. Okay, Okay, let's change directions because I am not feeling really good about starting my Monday off the way that we have put this out in the universe, because it's it's got me a little depressed about Cowboys football. So let's let's do this. What was the day, like the first time that you made a cut to make it on an NFL roster. But it happened to both

of you, guys. You were both bubble guys. What was that daylight? Do you remember the day the first time you made it onto the roster? You remember what you did? I don't, Jesus, that makes something up, Jesse like light of the people like. I want to end the note on a feel good story to send us out into the week feeling good. Right back from Minnesota when you got that touchdown? How about that that? Okay? So after that game, I can give you this. Here we go, Ri,

thank you, Chris. Here's why. Here's right. I don't remember. Do not remember? He just did a documentary on himself and remembers every moment in his life since the time he was probably two years old, and he can't remember one of the biggest moments of his life. By the way, but I saw some clips from the documentary. Was good. I was nervous at first. Yeah, I was driving over to Steve's house to do some voiceover stuff. Got some big shoes to feel because that war story has when

killed it. Now war stories killed it. But this one is gonna pull out your heartstrings. The the emotional roller culsture that you're gonna go on on this one is gonna be it? Is it up to date? Story? Does it include Nate leaving you for k put that in and the directors and the director's cut. Minnesota. So after the Minnesota game, I'm in the locker room. I'm getting dressed and this preseason this pre scored kickoff return R two yard part return for a touchdown UM to win

the game in Minnesota. In the locker room, I'm getting dressed and mister Jones walks up to me and he goes son, I've been a part of the Cowboys for almost thirty years. I've been what he says, I've been around football all my life. I've never seen a play like that before ever. Great job. First time he's ever talked to you. No, I mean talk to me at the show like I was. I wasn't your normal practice like on the bubble guy, like I had a little I had a little bit of kind of pulp coming

with little face. But he was like he gave me that look. It was like I've never seen anything like before. Great job. See you Like He's like, see you tomorrow or something like that, and it kind of gave me, like that old smack on the Facebook. I didn't appreciate that, but I took it. You know what I'm saying. He gave me. He gave me. He gave me the old smack on the face and walked off. And I kind of I was like, if it was a tallion, that's probably been a death death. So they do it. I

don't know. I'm like, I'm just joking the men planning your face like that. But he gave me, gave it to me. I took it, you know, I accepted it. And and but he gave me that smile on the double Smack Pop Pop. It was like, I see you tomorrow and your mind's probably like, what does that mean? Does that mean I made it? The small comforted me. Yeah right, it wasn't. It was. It was a genuine happy smile for me. And I was like, that might have might have got you on the team. That might

have that might have done it. What about you, Nate, You remember the first time you made your NFL roster? Yeah? Because when they when they did, they cut then I've spent the next seven days praying that they wouldn't get me on the second round because there's the cut that's gonna happen here, the big deadline, the big cut. Yeah, and then all of a sudden, they scanning rosters for the next week or two. Right, it's seeing if there's

somebody they want to pick up drop somebody else. And that's a great point, n because it's real and a lot of people may not know this a lot of times veterans. If you're a veteran player, Yeah, if you're on the roster at the beginning of the season, your salary is fully guaranteed no matter what. If you're not on the roster after week one, then your salary if they don't guarantee any money. And it's basically pro rated.

It's basically week after week after week after week. So a lot of teams will wait till after week one to save money and go and pick up a guy. So Nate's right, there's that initial cut, and then it's the veteran after week one cut that they'll come back and be like, oh, there's a guy that we wanted, but he was a vet and said we didn't want we want to show him on the guarantee and that whole five million that we might have to pay him this year, so now we can just pay him by game.

So there are That's that's a great point. People don't know when you make it, you're still sweating a little bit, yeahcause they see somebody else on the other team that they like. I never stopped sweating because I understood, like once I learned the business of football, and I understood, even though you made it, you're technically still on the bubble. You're never safe because yeah, number I'm the number five receiver.

I'm not starting core special teams. If we happen to go light somewhere else, my name gets brought up in them and the pool of players who can who'll be letting go to bringing another guy to feeling that you know, we hey, we need we need linebacker. When you know who we gonna are, We're gonna let go because we don't have any more roster spots. Gotta let somebody go to bring somebody on. And all right, well thanks for

letting me in this on a on a halfway positive. No, you know what, Wednesday, We're back Wednesday, right, Chris and Friday this week nine thirty, we may just take calls the whole damn show. Let's do it people want to talking about preseason. I'm tired of talking about the backup quarterback position. Let's maybe we just take calls and hear what you guys want to talk about. We got some

maddened stuff too. Oh yeah, yeah, let's do something. Nate's Madden experience and phone calls all day Wednesday, so tune in. The show is for the people on Wednesday. Nate Jesse, thanks for being here. Chris, thanks for keeping us on a lot of people from the FIGN lands call in William, thanks for keeping us up on the live streams. We'll be back Wednesday, nine thirty for the people. This has

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