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wasn't it. Yeah, well, it's about twenty four degrees and the wind chill this morning when I walked out was in the scene go digits, which is that that doesn't happen around here very often. I don't know how people up north. We should have just canceled work on the show, stayed in bed by degrees in Frisco texts, it's what Frisco man? That is cold? Cold degrees in Frisco, Texas, and it ain't It ain't cold enough to stop me from jumping all over Curt. Oh about what about Zeke

and not paying him? That he's not worth it? Do you hate Zeke? No? I'm just asking the question. Hey, this is a problem. You're gonna be throwing words in my mouth. Oka. Zeke is a great player. Okay, he may be a Hall of Fame player, but I worry about spending that much money for that position. How much money do you think we should offer him? Then? Since you know you think, oh now you're not ast or whatever they offer him is too much? Now? I think

I know you're gonna pay him fourteen? What's girly makes? Fourteen? Thanks? Who is that? Who just walked? Who just walked in? What's up? This kind over that? Don't like me? Nate little Zeke's back. That's a difference here. I like Zeke. He's a great player. Do you love Zeke? It depends on the price and dollars? How much do you love him? Eight million dollars? Work? Wow? I like you more than that, Zeke? I like you fourteen million dollars? You're gonna pay him

girly money? Girly got what thirteen? What nah? What girl do for you? In the playoffs last year? Will you hurt his knee? Hurt his got? That's the position? Okay? What a quarterback wasn't hurting? What did he do for you? And they're gonna pay him. Yeah, he was not hurt. It was let me say this, man, I think, if you're gonna pay Zeke, and and I'm just messing with my man. I think, if you're gonna pay Zeke, let it be now in his usable years. Yeah, for sure,

this year, next year, in the year. I think a three year deal, fourth year would have played with a team friend of the option. And that's that's you know. Now they're gonna wait two years to paying that's a bad deal. What you think in three years at what fourteen million? Yeah, fourteen million year? Yeah, and make it all guarantees. Hey man, it's all guaranteed. Don't don't give him a chance to mon grown. Say hey man, year

fifty meal, all guaranteed. And you know what, Normally I'm with you, Kurt, because I know what they did to DeMarco. They ran him in the ground, they got rid of him, and he wasn't the same as he was here. Granted he didn't have the line and the team around him. And normally I'm on your side, but I also flashed back to the games we haven't had Zeke and how pedestrian the team looked without him in the backfield and that, well,

there's a difference. I mean they're obviously. Zeke is a he's a once in a I mean, he's a special guy. But I think you can find other running backs that you substitute for that can can do the job for that role. You know, Okay, I mean it may not be okay, but you know what, I messed up. I shouldn't have brought this up. But the biggest fine, we lost it, but now we've found it. Guess who that is? Know what? We lost him? This is what makes me laugh.

Nobody would have ever thought last year around this time they chasing Wind would have ever left right, And then this year around this time, Hey, you know what's funny. He walked through the day what day they announced it? Last week? Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday. And we're sitting there in our office. You know, we're mining Nick's office and we have that glass front. They should kick Nick out of the office, but it's his office. I just rent space.

And he walks through. And normally no big deal because you see Mike walked through Woody and all that. But he had an all blue Cowboys jumpsuit on with the Cowboys ball cap and usually once you're gone from the team and you're in the media shop. You stopped wearing team gear, and he said, hide everybody in our little bullpen area. And I was like, Okay, that's weird that he's got all cowboys gear on. And then about thirty minutes later, we got a heads up from PR Hey,

this is this is this has just happened. And it was like and everybody's like, this is a joke, right is this? April First, get everybody reaction, starting with you, Doug, what was your reaction when you first heard that. I guess I wasn't shocked. I was, but I wasn't because I always believed the rumors last year that Jason Garrett was trying to convince him to come back. It just

made too much sense. Not that they didn't have talent at tight end, it's just, as we've talked about, the tight ends keep getting nicked up and injured, and every time he get a guy getting into a groove, he gets injured. And that's Jason Witten's He's great at everything, but he's really great at staying healthy. And I know he's older than ever, so it's going to be tougher. But that's the trait that Jason Garrett probably wants as a guy he can depend on. Who's gonna stay healthy?

Sixty eight snaps the game? How many will he play? Hopefully? Thirty twenty five? Okay, your shot, your shot? My turn, Yes, sir man. You guys are just gunning for me, aren't you. Yeah, you're waiting to jump on. Yeah, exactly when I first heard the news, Yeah, I've kind of like Douglas. I'm not shocked in that. I thought he would eventually wind up coaching, so I thought he would be back. Um. I was surprised that he was coming back as a player for sure. Um. The fan in me and the

um from that standpoint, I'm like this, it's cool. It's cool to have Jason Wentton back. It's obviously Hall of famer. I'm definitely worried that how's this gonna work, How's this gonna fit in? How's this gonna change the dynamic of the team had moved on? Is this gonna change anything? H I'm in the snaps? Sixty eight, I'm in it. Snaps how many? Yeah? Out of sixty eight on average? How I'm in the snaps? Wow? How many should he player? How many will he play. I'm asking, it's your show.

I would prefer he probably played twenty to thirty, but I'm betting he'll play over forty. Your turn call us eight eight eight eight two nine seven. We will I want, I really want. I'm gonna answer, but I really want to hear the fans reaction because I'm with you the whole show. Brother. Almost everything I've seen is like, oh my god, he's back. He's back. Here's what I worry about. I love Witt and I think he's a great role model.

I'm this team. They what they've done in the last several years is they moved on from from guys that are getting up there in age and they've they've let the young guys play. They developed, and that's what they did with the defensive secondary year before last. You know, DeMarcus Ware got up there in age and it you know, hey, it's time to go. You still got some gas in the tank. But we're going with the you. That's where

it I think it all started. What worries me is that man does not want to come off the field. That man wants to play. And we saw that, you know when he was here two years ago. You sixty eight snaps. What you're saying, I'm sixty seven because Jason, from what I understand, I could be wrong and coach you you correct me, fam but I think he appealed to Coach Garrett more than anybody to come I'm back. You know that's the guy that can say, hey this I many snaps wanted sixty eight. If he want to

be nice, I think he'll play fifty five. Yeah, And I mean he's he's not gonna come off the field. And are you gonna tell Jason Whitton to how are you gonna be How are you gonna put him on the sideline? He wants to play. He's gonna play exactly. And I mean I don't need to be able to leave about of the booth, right, I mean, forget what everybody thought. ESPN was invested in him. So you left for a position where you can where you was only gonna get better. I think he was only gonna get better.

Uh So I said, hey, coach man, and I give you five million dollars. I said, hey, coach, uh yeah, you want me back? Yeah, I want you back. Well, but on a limited basis. I'm better than what you got out there. Coach m hmm. If you left and if you let Swain get out of here, he is better than what's out there. Do we know that though he's thirty, he's gonna be thirty seven seven a year. You know what, guys that are developing, let me say here, he took a year off. Uh what Witton does it is?

I'm not saying it don't take physical ability, but he's got enough savvy, you know, to be able to survive more than survive. So a year off just made his eggs fresh. And I would would he lose that freshness in the training camp? Nope, because they're not gonna practice him that much. They're gonna just get him guests, get him an edge on him, and then games is where he gonna really perform. What if he has lost the step? You think, like you said, you think they're gonna bench him.

You know what if he if he if he's lost for the team, then if he lost the step, you don't even let him continue, you don't. You know that's that's almost borderline and active. If he's lost the step, because he's the step, he can't brother, he can't lose no more. I know you know I agree. And here's the deal. Even a Witton that's lost half a step, he's still better than I mean, he's probably still in the mid range of tight ends that are in the league.

You think, what about Jarwin and Schultz going to develop into that? I just I just that's what I hope. I don't I don't hate the move. I don't love the move. I like him. I like him on this team because I think he brings something to the team. I just hope that you don't abandon what you've started the last few years and he inhibits the growth of these young guys because you saw Jarwin step up, you saw Schultz last year start to step up. Have you

never developed a tight end behind him? Right then? I had three guys come in second round picks this year. Here, this is the most important draft I think for the Cowboys. And the fact that you don't know what's happening at a few positions, you know there in limbo, I mean total limbo, and you can't. You got a draft guys that can give you some help, you know, young depth

that can possibly started that second and third pick. So we can't mess that up, you know now we in what I mean by that is at least make a great effort to get the right guy. You know, they don't need a tight end there with that pick. No, I don't think so. But now I wasn't a tight y. Ain't got no way. You know, probably next week or the week got that, I'll start having some d lineman that I'm talking about a fat guy. Remember, yeah, I

ain't going, but I ain't he wasn't going. Yeah, the guy this week ran or four to eight forty D lineman, you know. And then it had another one of the devons end random four four from Mississippi. He going hot? Yea, he going hot? Man? How you doing, sir? Let's go to the phone. Let's see what everybody thinks about it. It's Mikey and Tuside. What's up, Mikey? Hello, what's hey? What's going on? Guys? Hey man? What's up? Oh? Hey man? Last time I talked to you, was saving the degrees

is before winter? Is still saving degrees over here? Man, let's all you get the freezing off over there? Man. Well, thank you for your concerns. Anyway. You know, when I heard this new this break, I kind of got annoyed about it, dude, because we needed him this year. I understand that the ESPN opportunity was like once in a lifetime and whatever happened happened over there, but we needed

him in this year. Then I got to thinking, if they'll feel a void and and and us not getting somebody from free agency, I wouldn't know what you guys talk gift. Let's say, if we would have got Gallas Carter take down Dallas Carter, wo's been on our roster, it does Jason, we didn't have an opportunity now and uh hey, I love you guys to show you the best you think Jason wouldn't gonna play. I think you'll do like a thirty twenty five thirty. I don't know. Do you say some wind? He he cots his spot.

You already done too? Oh uh? His locker back, man, So he's chasing wind. He already has. He already has a cloud here. So we can't be too bullish and say, well we can't have him back to farm. He's earned it. But at the same time that kind has annoyed me. It's like somebody leaving work and coming back and acting like he could sit on the front seat again. You know what I'm saying. The guys. I love you guys. It still man, I appreciate it. Picnic on the twenty

thirds later, Thanks MIKEY appreciate it. I do think they didn't give him the same locker from what I understand that. You know, there's certain leaders that have the Zach Martin got his old spot. He said he didn't want it back, so he's kind of fun. But that brings up the point. I almost wonder as much as what happens on the field, the leadership aspect of it. I mean, you kind of had this new crop of lead stepped forward. Does this regress there? Now you have this huge presence back in

the room. Is that gonna shake things up? Or does it help or hurt? You know? What do you think? I think you'd come back and um and feel the room and then and then and then feel where where it's needed. And if if it's not, they don't worry about it. You know what I'm saying, feel where it's needed. Is he that type of I mean, he's just so competitive, he so wants to win, and you know, bless him for it. But does that, you know, does that help her hurt? Overall? You know? Is he willing to step

back if he needs to do. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something. These guys see, this is the thing about it. We're dealing with men. So you you step away, and it wont because the injury. You step away because you chose to. So you came back because you you you're good enough to be back. But these guys are And I get a perfect example, Kyrier leaving the Celtics getting hurt last year, and all of a sudden he's back. The young guys ain't listening and they falling apart. Don't

come back and wreck the locker room. Come back and fit where you need to fit, you know, and when you know, and make your plays. You know, he don't have to worry about the direction of the team now, you don't have to worry about how everybody feeling or not feeling. He just come in and flow with everybody. And he still can lead his deal. Just fit where you fit, you know how every year he would lead them the workouts and the unannounced workhouts. He can still

do that. You just fit where you fit now. Yeah, you know, you know somebody else stepped up last year and ran those workouts. Yea, I would think that, you know, whether there's Dak or Zeke or whoever young leader there is now. I hope this huge present overshadow it won't. It won't. They will respect whining and give him his jets due, but it won't be no overboard or on

the board. Don't don't even worry about that. I mean, I mean, ideally, you would love to see him do what Dirk's kind of done the last year or two, and maybe even next year's come in Realize, hey, I can still contribute. I can still give you twelve points a night. I'm gonna do what I can do to help the team. But also where I can really benefit the team is behind the scenes, coaching these young guys

up and getting them out. I mean, to me, that would be ideal as he comes in and he plays twenty to thirty snaps a game, and then he lets these younger guys develop. But I mean, hell, what if he comes back and he's the old witness. What if that year off rejuvenates him and he I think physically

it will? You think so, because I was gonna ask you that if you think, if you help, if he would, just think if you'd have got hurt last year, say pull a hamstring, and he came back this year where you'd be like, oh, wouldn't he He continued to work out to some degree, and now he intensifies. He got a whole off seasons, intensify his workout back to what it was. He got some some tricks up his fleet

that he can have the see Nolbum. Like I said about, I want over and through, like I call him like wow, man, really remember I call him. I want enthusiastic. But because the only thing I care about is Winton comes and plays well and we go far in the playoffs. Great, and then next year, I just don't want to afford come next year, you don't need this team, cannot afford

to drop off. It's gotta be ten plus wins. You got on the three guys, serious guys in consideration for contracts this year, But next year you got you got a mountain of guys that you gotta consider, you know. So we gotta get through this year and got and gotta have this team chemistry tight, because I don't want what's happening to my Celtics now blowing up. Brother, because the team chemistry, because the new dude a dude I was already on the team got injured. Heywood is fitting

a good but Kyrie is the leader. He come back and the young guy like man we went to We was a game away from the from the finals, yeah, you know, from getting into the finals, and hey, you come and haul up the balls and that's gonna be happy. We'll see how it plays out. I mean, these guys make what if they say, hey we made we won the NFC's last year without you, and but see that that is up to Jason Garrett coach, Jason Whitton and

how he wants to fit. Right, I guess how he fits and how he wants to fit I hope are the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it just I'm like I said when when it first albums said, my wife texts me, hey, Jason Witten back. Yeah, I'm like, man, my wife clowning. And then sooner it's I mean, when five minutes my phone and NFL Jason wom this is real, let me you know, and it's not April. And if if you're a Cowboys fan, it's got to make you

feel a little bit good. Because he wouldn't come back to a team that didn't have a chance to win. I don't think he would come back if he didn't think they had a legit shot to go to or win the Super Bowl. And the other question I kind of have how much do you think Lenihan being gone played into him coming back or leave it? Yeah? I mean coincidence or were they using him the right way? Does he think he's gotta he can be more productive

now with Kelly Moore? He just grabbed Kelly Moore if he doesn't call the right plays and put him in a headlock and give him a doogie and say, throwd me the damn ball. Yeah. I hadn't thought about the Lenihan angle. It seemed like he was a pretty integral part of the office with Lenihan here, I think he asked more about you know, he had this shot at ESPN he thought he'd take. But it's gonna be interesting. Let's see, Yeah, headlocks. So maybe maybe all right, let's

go back to the phones. Are good, buddy, reginal from Conway, Arkansas. What's up, Reggie? How are you guys doing today? Man? How you doing? I'm doing well? Thank you, thank you. I want to jump right on this because as soon as it happened, I had a certain opinion about it. I really wasn't that happy. And what you guys are talking about. I've been listening and I agree with a lot of that, but it all seems kind of circumstantial, you know, Will he want to not play a lot?

Will he want to play a lot? High? Where the guys react to that? I just because of all that kind of not knowing, I think it's really a bad idea. Now, him coming back as a coach. I think that would have been great, him coming back as a player. I'm not really feeling it. I see you point, Yeah, I do, because I'm like, Okay, how does he fit? I mean, veteran guy, been there, done that, you know, But you have to just kind of relax and let this play out, because you know, I just do not need to come

out the next year. And really I'm concentrating on this ship because I'm kind of selfish because I need them ten plus wins. Yeah, but we do not need to lose. Jeff Swain shots don't hardly play, Blake don't hardly play. And then next year we come okay, and then we got to be saying, okay, it's we ain't gonna plays. We're not gonna play that. I don't want to start the Brett fathy. I think that's just more distraction when we're on a rise. I think bringing him back it's

just another distraction. It's hard enough being a Dallas cowboy. There's enough going on around the team already. But to bring him back, I think it's just one more thing that can throw them off track. We hear you, man, with you man, I'm but I'm praying it don't yep. I don't need no off track. I want to talk noise ye. I want to call all my friends, all everybody. I know. That's that love enough I want, but I want to I want to talk me some noise. Man. It's been a long time. One more thing, if I

could just inter check this. I don't think that all these things that they're doing may making Kelly more the OC and bringing Witton back and all these uh kind of moves. Do you think uh Steven is playing the long game to maybe I don't know, uh, because I think Jason Garrett and Dak Prescott I tested the hip and so that doesn't work out this year. Do you think they're just kind of making way for uh the assistant coach to come in And I don't want to drop any names. But y'all know what I'm you did.

They're just trying to open the door for him to come in shark yard. Yes you know what, man, Yeah, well we don't okay, I need ten for us wins a man free, don't don't done. Man, Lord, jeez, I'm about to go. I'm I'm going to get in my card. Just let my windows down. I kill myself with cold weather. Look what you did to Nate Reggie. It's just so much going on. It's too much going Yeah, thank you for taking my card. App thanks man. I mean, I don't think they're I don't think they're making room and

hoping coach Garrett fails. But I think the way that this is all played out is they say they're talking to Dak and they're having conversations. They haven't re up Coach Garrett. I think this is all setting up to be like, hey, this is your year. Yeah for sure. I mean you look, last year, they all the assistant coaches except Garrett and the coordinators. Now this year, I mean, Richard kind of took over defensive coordinator dus Now you

got a new offensive coordinator. It only needs one more change. Yeah, so you gotta kind of think he's a little bit on the hot seat. I think he now he all of it on the hot seat. Yeah, it's just it's just a peculiar hot seat because the owner owner slash GM love He does love him. That's the difference most coaches. Yeah, he loved him. So mister Jones wants him. He's yeah, nying for him to succeed. Yeah, yeah, he had a quote, but he on the hot seat because if he wasn't

you know the great company. If most teams that would have had a coach that had brought you from three to five all the way to to ten win season, they'd be like, oh man, we need it, you know. Yeah, they had a Um see if I can find it here, Um, mister Jones on the I guess on the bus. Uh. He usually holds court. Yeah, yeah, he does. About four or five guys up from the local media, and he said, when it came to coach Garrett, if I here it is, he has never lost the team ever. That's very impressive.

Hopefully that can come together, we can get him a Super Bowl and he'll be maybe the longest tenured coach in the history of the Cowboys. So Basically, Hey, coach, win us a super Bowl and you don't have to worry about job security ever. You can stay as long as you want. So let's take a break. Man, there's so much to talk about. We got Randy Gregory talk. We got David Irving talk. We've talked with in a

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but this week so I'm tired. Maybe it's turning around. Maybe we're done with winter. Is your boys have a recommended room temperature Douglas. See you gotta go there US boys or our boys that are attached to us. What are you? What are you asking? The second? The second? Uh, Tom John, I heard they're supposed to be cooler than your actual body right outside your your boys. No, Douglas want to know. Just went into the gutter and I followed him. What all you gotta do is look at

look at the dog the summertime. Yeah, please please expound him. Go a little bit. You look at it. Hold that microphone. He walks away from you. If it's hot here, he'll be hanging with the boys. If it's cold, it would be less of the boys hanging here. We go. I think that would be the conversation. We're being happy Monday, Demetrius and Dallas. How's it going? Man? Man, there's win and stuff. Man, I was so pissed off. I have to change my tummy, Jones, Tommy Jones, Man, tell us why?

I just okay, Look, I watched the combine this weekend, right, so I'm looking at d N D Lineman run four four one four four, three linebackers running four twos and winning it so slow. I just got demoralized. I'm like, who's he gonna block? And then I listened to Jerry Jones interview, and he basically gave, yeah, when Winn's on the field, we're gonna be running. I'm like, okay, so the world knows when Winn's out there, he's gonna be running. We've seen him play his last year, wasn't it fast.

I mean, I'm just so depressed because I feel like now my explosive offense is just taken away, like it's just no more three four wile receivers said, I mean all that stuff is back going out the winter. It's kind of gonna remind me when it was Cole Beasley, Switzer and Winn was still there. How they can never get on the field. I said, it's the same thing. I just don't I just don't see the point. I mean, and I'm kind of man, but he didn't even look out to be in greater shape to me. I've seen

him at the Tennessee game eating popcorn. I mean, he didn't like he was ready to go out there and play. Come on, man, it's the all season. Let the man. He's some popcorn, Shannon, because I heard they didn't even look at them. They just signed them on good face. See you know what, you know what sir, And that's what I try to tell people. We have to be a little bit more careful with our transparency because you were shocked when I was listening, like, oh yeah, we

just we just said, okay, you in shape? You all right? Yeah? Come on, I'm like that's crazy right now. I'm like, please put some some charming Johns and let's look at him, you know that, just like I don't know if that's true. But when they told me that and I see them eating popcorn at the Tennessee game, I'm like, you were stuck on that popcorn, man, Yeah, because don't extra butter pop card I was shann I'm looking at like he looked like me. So I'm just nervous. I think it's

gonna make our team regrets. And I just and I know this is gonna sound terrible, but the waiting true know what it takes to get to the championship, and don't be mean. Look ahead, let me say, let me say right here, let me say this right here. You you just have to be in this case. You got to be patient and did trust this here, trust this here. Witten ain't going against the same old Sorry, linebackers are slow linebackers. These a different line Vanerest is different, all

of these got Jalen is different. You know, even even Damien. These dudes are little bit different. These safeties and corners are little bit different. If he's having success against these guys, be be confident that he's gonna be all right during the game. And if he don't get another pair, tell me johns now, just gonna get your pop corn ready. Yeah, appreciate that, man. Thanks. You gotta ask me. I'm inny snaps, oh see, because that is what I were about more

than anything. Because if we're gonna stop the development of shots and we're gonna stop the development of Blake, that's not right. What do you think it's a good snap count? What would you be okay with? It's Jason Winton. I'm gonna wait to see. And I'm being honest because I told you that. I'm like, he was making almost five million or so in the booth yea, and ESPN was invested. Brother, that was all in So you I just don't see him coming. I mean, yes, he's made more money, you know, Okay,

I'm not into his money. I'm just saying what you gotta pay him for him to be on this field for the coach to say, yeah, the head coach said, yeah, we want you back. Who you think that tight ends? Coach gonna say, hey, Jason, now come on, man, let's get other girls a shot. It's gonna be somebody said hey, man, and we'll see. That's what I'm saying. Training camp is so huge because we have a better defense m and

so we'll see. Yeah, it's gonna be some day. I'm like, hey, y'all, come on out here now, you come to training camp for a change. Man, I'm gonna be a part of this. Yeah, i'd like to You're gonna start. Hey, you know what you said this before we went on the air. How glad are you that your hair has grown back today? I hear you, man, have you got a cut yet? No? Well, I'll just turned a little bit around. Besides, but I'm

telling you it's thicker than it was. I think it might be you get him that black jack or Jack black Jack black Ya? I need something? Got hair now? Somethings? What what dude almost had me running down to how one hundred miles and I would both want them? You're upset? Huh? Yeah, it's just springing up coaching. Then you know what's so funny on the Twitter? Hey, so we got our next head coach is bringing in one year tight and I'm like, what the world are you talking about? Jas Oh? You

know that talk's gonna start, you know. Oh man, oh oh, the fans are gonna have him and Christopher Shard Sean Coead Yeah, oh yeah, I forgot about him. Man, old snake leave Eric North Carolina. What's for lunch? Oh wait, what was that? I'm sorry? And Jason got you upset like that? Yeah? Man, we try to get out two other cupcakes and we got a couple of kingcakes. To me, we got a whole lot of stuff going on up any day. It sounds like you about one hundred cupcakes

down from the way that that pans. I gotta take you a couple of minutes to come talk to my boys. Man, I don't know what's up. Man, How do you feel about this witting situation? Man, I'm understand I'm surprised with so many fans are negatives against this man, but I'm looking to as a out of is. You know, he's gonna take that playoffs coach role and I think it's gonna help it's only gonna help shows, It's only gonna help Blake Darling get better. You know, he is model.

He's a model citizen for his community. He's one of the greatest players to ever play in this game. What is so bad about her coming backing snaps um or twenty five snaps part of twenty five and we need to do we need to do it over say twenty you think Jason w Jon played only twenty five snaps? I think you are hundred. You are a hundred biscuits now. I mean he left the team and he's coming back. He knows his role has diminished. I think he wants to teach these guys and take them money the league

and make them better. You know, because he is going to make an outstanding coach one day coaching both things will be outstanding coach Eric see Eric GARDI put him, put him into head coach and slide. Coming back one year is an internship and he took the head coach with some team someday Tennessee Tennessee Bottoms, Tennessee volunteers. Why not right? Why not go back to his an the matel you know what he built his his his his resume or coach as as assistant culture. He will be hope.

He's here to coach and help. I think he's gonna be outstanding coach. His mind is brilliant when it comes to football. And listen, you know well he you know, I heard a call of say how slow wit? It is? Never been fast, He's always been slow. Guys beat football feeling. He post those dbs up, He post those safety up like a basketball player. He knows the little creases and crevices within his own That's right, you're not a witty player.

He knows why open secrets in the dirt. You're not worried about a slow guy who took a year off. If anything, not getting taking that contact in the line of scrimmage for a whole year, you might have rejuvenated and using the talk. Hey you got excuse Kurt Man, he's in hate mode. Friend. Years old guy. I mean, this guy is still a pretty well conditioned athlete. In

my opinion, he's only thirty seven years old. I think he can get out there for another year and make an impact on because listen, guys, we all know we struggle a short down to distant situations. We struggle inside the end zone. Inside when he was going to go. We struggled. You know, our player is intelligent as written is. How can you not help us? Guys? Come on, he knows what you ain't got to. You're preaching the current. Convert that person down. Don't you mean would you play

the Zeka just let him go? No, you cannot let a generational talent like but Kurt, you can let him go. No. I did not agree with that. I don't agree with that whatsoever. I'm gonna get the guy like a Zekiel to come through your organization. I don't know, every ten or fifteen years maybe, So a guy like that, you need to find a way to make it happen. I mean, I don't know. I've sent a couple of dollars down there after health I don't know. We need to keep

our core of players intact. That's Dak, that's Zeke, that's Tank, and even Bonn Jones and the Cooper when they come up next year. We have to make this work, okay. So, I mean, the future is bright, and that's why we came back in the first place. In my opinion, he seed the direction of his tum is headed and the switch over to you m Kelly Moore was very impactful. I believe everybody in the organization. I didn't even realize in that first house how highly regarded this young man is.

And I feel like with him adding these new wrinkles to our offense, our concepts, our passing game is gonna improve. I think, I think professionals John Tighty end we got a show to do. Man, are you man? We have the show back. I love you guys and time. Fish your biscuits, Hey, send us some, send us some cupcakes, eat them biscuits, all right, have a go. Hey, don't send him to Kurt because we said, ain't got that pieces that a man later, the man sent the pizza

on a Friday and everybody was gone. That is not my faults. That's not my fault. Hellman was there, and that's that's also a complicating He's probably stilled the situation he still got in this freezer. I should ask why didn't you you know, poor Eric? Eric's asking You're telling me I'm being negative about winning. I'm basically saying the exact same thing, you too, are. What's that not? You know what you just saying? Well, do we say what I want to say? What o what do we say,

don't don't. I don't know about Zeke. I want to go back through Zeke will take a year off, A slow guidess taking a year off. He just said the same thing a minute ago. Why is your voice cracking? Oh? You guys wear me puberty? Second puberty, second puberty? Yeah, good stuff? Is it what happens in the second puberty? You don't need to know? What are you doing? Redkirk? Guys wear me out? Can't caress and ask me to

point out that. There's an interview on Dallas Cowboys dot com with Jerry on the bus and Jerry point blank says that he really wants Witten to coach here at some point. Really yeah, so he doesn't want ESPN to hijack Witten from him? Huh didn't? I don't know if he said head coach. But he wants Witten in coaching and he wants that to happen here. I think Witten wants to be a cut and surprised me at all

that I think Witten wants to be a coach. I'll tell you what, man, I used to want to be a coach, and after I see all the hours they put in that stuff, I know, but man, he's made all that money. He doesn't have to worry about money he's got. He's got a swing coach, but he's got a bunch of young kids that he seems to enjoy being around. He ain't ever gonna see them kids. He coaches. His grandfather coach. I think both of the brothers coach. I mean he's he said before he wants to coach.

I mean, that's that's where he said. You know what people don't you know? And I ain't trying to be funny, but some kids like it that they dads or bombs or whatever or special people like that, and then they don't mind that they're not around because I think when they are around, they give them all the attention they need when they it's that quality versus quantity, and so went and seem like that type of guy that he can give it that quality. Yeah, you know when he

he is running his kids, but I think they enjoy. Hey, what my dad's plays with the Dallas cars. Ump kids enjoy that. Man. Yeah, but uh, what I say, ain't know ze Kurt as much. Just doubt. You know what I'm saying gonna say, Hey, word doubt is that voice crack. Yeah, you downt Zeke and he doubt don't doubt Zeke at all that Zeke is a He's a great player, but not at not at fourteen and thirteen minute dollar. Do you want to see who led the league in rushing

last year with teams? Yeah, Seattle? Who's there running yards per game? Who's there running back? The guy they're gonna have to pay here real and they ain't paying him. Number two is Baltimore. Who's there running back? The quarterback? Lamar Jackson? Yeah, rams are three, but you know again, GIRLI got hurt. Did nothing in the playoffs? Panthers their fourth but did they stop in the ball and see? Uh C Janison spilled the beans They had a wait

a minute, a great line. Ce Janison spilled the bills on a meeting beans and he said, man, this kid was hurt way more than people wanted. Yeah, it was hurt. So the third, the third and fourth team in rushing the same guy didn't the same guy beat us? What are you talking about? Or did I just lose? GIRLA didn't go for like a forty yard touchdown on the city. Yeah, the same or hurt guy. They also had one that went to that went to the NFC Championship best line

that went to the NFC Championship game. I'm talking about. You know, he didn't do nothing, didn't C. J. Anderson played for the Panthers when they beat us. No Denver, Ah, that's right? Who was? Who was the Panthers had the kid Stanford. We played this year's second round playoff games called Divisional Right, right, somebody ran for like a lady four yard touchdown untouched and nobody called him. Guess who that dude? Was it? One Ce Janison? You got another guess? No,

Curly is a great talent. Gurly was, but you're gonna spend fourteen million on that. They they thought he was worth and when he got hurt, the eighteen won't as good. They went to the Super Bowl. Yeah, but it wasn't as good. But he helped. Yeah, we gave him one hundred and how much Russian two hundred and fifteen yards and they get at and that same guy that you said ain't worth it with Russia like one hundred and sixteen years, they're gonna be able to pay him once

they have to pay golf golf come up. By the time golf come up to he'll be He'll be bringing up while you're dissecting the Rams roster man. We got all this other stuff, talk about Cowboys news, you trying to get you trying to bring out Zeke making more than nine million. If they can make it work, that's fantastic. Just worried about tying up that position. Well there's another guy they gotta make it work with first de Marcus Large and they have till tomorrow at what four o'clock,

three four Eastern time? The franchise and we're not franchise. What do you think they're gonna do it? I don't know. Let's talk about that when we come back. I'll hang it with the boys. If you're like me and you love I mean, if you have a thing, then cutting the chord is scary. But then I found out I could switch it orrectv now and still get the live sports I love. No satellite needed, no bulky hardware, no

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He's your teammates. I know he's your new teammate. He used to play for the Cowboys. And you just went on a work retreat with the man last week, total blank, just totally. Oh my goodness, you're having am Are you having a senior moment? Yea happens more and more. Danny McCrae, former Special Teams Ace of yourr Dallas Cowboys runs our youth camps now embarrassing. Welcome to the team, Danny. Who is that man? Good luck getting him on the show,

Danny McCray remember him safety for US Special teams? Ace left here and I think he went to Chicago for three or four years. So LSU graduate or attend I don't know. I don't know if he got his degree down. Brian brought us from Brian brought us from Houston. So send you, send you kids to Dallas Cowboys football camp

and let Danny mccraig coach him up. So there was some bad news last week David Irving indefinitely suspended, which we didn't really probably won't miss him that much because he wasn't on the field, but Randy Gregory had to look like he was kind of turning things around. When he was on the field. He was very disruptive and looked like he possibly had he had he had the chance to be a great one still does. If you listen to Jerry, Jerry thinks he can he can turn

it around and get back. I love that. That's one of my favorite drops ever. I would I like to hear what you have to say. So this makes this this particular person even more important with the the D line kind of pleading as we speak, DeMarcus Lawrence, what do you think, Kurt? What do you think we gotta do with him? I sure do you think he deserved? Man? Because the last few guys Mann you gotta been iffy O. Long term like what what would you pay him? What

is he? I don't know contract, he's probably what in five years he's probably gonna get around what twenty million years, twenty million a little bit more. Three No. Five would have would have option Team option Okay, I'm missing with Curtie. I gotta have me some fun. You know what I'm saying, Uh, what do you think? Brother? He is he deserving of a long term deal on this, Yes he is. And see this is funny thing about it. Last year, well, he knocked down the doors trying to get over here.

The show's enthusiasm, like, I'll show y'all guys one more year what I can do now. You know, it's kind of like know which they have the right to do. Managements went kind of silent. You know what I'm saying, tomorrow's the franchise tag deadline. They're gonna franchise tag him. Man, I'll tell you what. Last year, You're right, Nate. Last year he was doing cartwheels and backflips to get up here and sign that contract and say, hey, seventeen million.

I'm happy. I'm good. But to me, that was a good faith effort on his part because these guys don't like to be franchise franchise. To me, he was being the good guy and saying, hey, I'm gonna put on this front whether it's real or not. I'm gonna be happy with this, but I'm I want to get paid. I don't get a good vibe from what's going and I don't know anything. I don't know any talking or what they're doing. But I just don't. To me, silence is deafening. Yeah it was in this case. Yes, Well,

I don't know. I just don't get a good feeling about this. And you know what, And it's all about the guarantee money. That's what that's what you know. And it's just me speaking because uh you you you can give a dude one hundred and thirty five million for seven years and guaranteeing thirty mill who you know, I ain't going for that, but you guarantee to do one hundred meal and you give it. You signed due for one hundred men men, you guarantee all of that. Now, yeah,

that's a different story. So they've got a franchise him, though, don't they go? Oh man, other teams from Approach. Yeah, they have to, they have to. And that worries me if they do that, because I don't feel like I don't feel like he's gonna be doing backflips up here to sign that contract. And and he he is, he is your locker room guy. Now, he showed you that at the end of the season and in the playoffs. He's your guy, and if you piss off your guy

in the locker room, that bothers me a little bit. Yeah, that that that worries me. Now, if they franchise him with the what are you doing over there, I'm the saying shaking a hand at it. If if you do that, they franchise him just to protect him and then try to work out a deal before we get in the camp. I'm fine with that. But if they're franchising him and not continue to hold one, that's gonna I think that's gonna be bad. But I think the goal you know what,

he won't have to sell a word. He he won't. That's the thing about it. He won't have to sell a word. It'll be the other players, Like, Okay, you told us, you know, we believe that if we value but to this team. You know. But I can tell people that sounds good when everybody's on the contract, But when you come from under contract, whether you had a great year or not so great a year, it still comes down to money. And so but I'm all for

the player. I'm all for the player making as much money as he can and then once you make that money, I would turn. I would be the first to turn against you if you don't, if you don't earn it, I'll promise you I'll be forrievance that man. We're paying you all the money you sorry, you know, but I don't think that's tank case. It sounds like they're far apart. One of the local papers were reporting they're pretty far apart. I mean, why, why, why is it? Why why aren't

they paying? I mean, you said just there, it's gonna come down and guarantee they're worried about injury stuff or anything, Sir, I don't know. I don't know how people to pay. That's true, brothers, but a lot of people ain't Tank Lawrence. See I understand, and I'm with you, Dug. It's a lot they got not this year. But you know, missus Jones had an article a couple of a couple of weeks ago saying we're looking at this thing like we've

never looked at it before. Because number one, I know mister Stephen Jones will never want to had to this tied to his name again. Dead money. Yeah, right, so they looking at Okay, we got to play Tank and him with twenty million, Yeah, Dad, who else? And then we weren't gonna let it be easily hit the market. If you'd come back, you're gonna pay Zeke fourteen million. And see you got Cooper. Ze Zeke's gonna see the

fifth year. Now, this is I would do Zeke. And I'm not no management, but this is how I would do Zeke if he I give him that fifth year, and once I get everybody signed, then I in the middle of the year, out of know what. I was like, hey, man, let's do this in the middle of year, out of know whatever. Then all of a sudden, man, I think rush with like one hundred and eighty over twenty five cars pre touchdown. Hey we just did Zeke, you know,

just for Lawrence, Zeke and uh Dak. I mean you could be talking sixty million dollars tied up right there, those three guys. But you gotta play Cooper, you gotta you know, I mean height No, Coop gonna see the fifth year. Zeke gonna see the fifth year. You know, these guys can see the fifth year. What's called the statement thirteen mill That fifth year, you could be looking at sixty seventy million dollars for three or four guys.

How are you going to fill out the rest of your squad with quality players that but see if you can get that first year is what always crushes you, and you gotta That's why I'm not big on the long term, because the long you know that fifth year, six year unless this team friendly and none of these guys we mentioned can't consisted. Like I'm gonna give you a team friendly deal. You know how I know I'm getting old. Remember Luke Perry from nine O two one

oh lane frosts in eight seconds. Yeah, I never watched the show, but passed away dead at fifty two from a massive stroke. Fifty two. That's scary. Yeah, sorry, Kurt, this hasn't been a good day for you. Well, fellas man, we should just do a two hour show on Mondays. We don't have Look that Jason coach Garrett got on his glasses. Yeah who that next soon? That's uh, you would have thanked you stop as recorded. But it's a defensive guy. Yeah, that's that. That's um I just went blank.

What's his name? It's not Bloom, it's the other kid. Um Man. You're not good with names today, are you? What's this guy's name over here in the pink shirt across front. I got Nate, Okay, you got Nate, all right? Who runs the ball? Who runs the board in the back. I'm trying to forget your name though. So are you gonna go eating lunch? You know? Do do he deserve? Is he worth? Don't talk to you? Blown you lunch? Yeah, you're blown up. I gotta get I gotta get my car.

What's the deal jumping on me about eating lunch? You keep blowing us. When we were doing daily shows, you were in the lunch room with us every day. And since we've gone months daily, since we've gone monthly, you you leave, you go, get you to go box hookies, and you get out of here. We get off there. I got something which you just sitting there with Stephen Brown. Stephen Brown? Okay, what is his title? Offensive assistant? Okay, he's uh. They will showed him at the combine. This

is live. They're doing forties today DVS. Okay, Well, fellas, we gotta go, unfortunately, Kurt, thanks for showing up you, sir, Nate, thanks for bringing it. Douglas, thanks for doing Thank you for showing up. Zeke, thank you to shake your head at him. Yeah, he don't want to pay you. Thanks for doing what you do, Pressley, Thanks for scheduling everything. We'll be back pay d Low gay d Low. Hey, dude, all I guess we'll be back next week. Huh, yes, next monday. I'm bad. I have to give the ball

my money. If i'm joing, I want to give my money. Contract shows next week at spring break. A lot of people. I'm not sure you're leaving. Yes, you're hitting Padre with the girl. We gotta honey, do list. That's a good question. When my spring great? Honey doing nothing, honey even to get in this car and goes, hey, when do uh? When do free When does free agency start? That's this next Tuesday, next too, So a week from believe tomorrow

it's thirteenth, isn't it. I think so that when it starts, or the twelfth, twelve or thirteen, because I think it's a week from tomorrow. Okay, let's keep an eye on that because that'll be an interesting interesting time around here with some of these the cold Beasley contract being up and a few others. So all right, we're getting out of here. We'll see you possibly next week, if not the week after stay warm, stay warm, Cover up your boys.

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