The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield, the flooding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the boys, presented by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon gross Hey cowboys got child up this week. I know what it was? What was it? He walked by that practice field and he saw who was taking a rep today?
Number seven, number one in your hearts, number seven on the field, Cooper Rush. Can I can I just can I just spell something that people don't I don't know if they they may see f R E F I L L. Can I dispel something? People think that dispelled? Dispell? Can I spell something? Oh no, no, yes, you can dispel something. They not get along? People think I don't get along. People think I don't know why people we
get I love me. Where did that come from? Because people think because we go back and forth and we make faces and I raise my voice and he raises his voice, that we don't get along. Like I love Nate. We have no beef. There is no anything. See and now there's beef. It's not from my end. But let me let me tell you why people may think. No. Let me let me tell you why people may think that because of my overwhelming love from the Dallas Cowboys.
You know what I'm saying. That they can't do no wrong, you see, And that's why they think that Jesse knows don't like me, but they know full well that I love Jesse good. I want people to know. I want people to know there's no beef with Nate and I. We don't get here the star. He don't love Zeke and I do. No. I love Zeke. In fact, you're gonna love my My take. Oh for this week? Oh? Is that today or tomorrow? We get into it today
because cowboys cowboys offense. We'll get into it tomorrow then, okay, okay, Oh I want to tune in tomorrow. Yeah, So for you, for those of you all that don't know, we come in here and we talked before we go on the air. We talked during breaks, and then when the show's over, sometimes we leave the door closed and make sure the mics are off and we talk about other things, and then we usually go out in the hall and we hang out for four or five minutes after the show
and talk about us tour coming through. Yeah, so we all get along and off the air, we get a lot more off the air than we do on the air, probably, But I think Kurt is the factor of why, because they keep trying to win Kurt over, you know, because Curt is my guy. He agrees with me to majority, so he does. He does not the only thing we disagree on it, but everything else. Like Kurt really thinks that the Cowboys are gonna take this game by thirty points, like I do. But then jesse Man, I think that
he'll trying to persuade. Oh, Kurt doesn't think that either. Kurt's weak minded too, because he'll sway on you. He'll go back and you can talk him into some stuff. So y'all saying that the Cowboys ain't gonna win this about thirty points. I think they're gonna win it. That's tomorrow. That's tomorrow show by thirty predictions or tomorrow we're trying
to jump the gun. Nate, you know what it must be something about that nineties Cowboys teams, because we had him and on Happy Hour last night, and Mickey even said it. Mickey said, he sounds just like Nate because he had all these reasons why he's concerned, why he's worried, and then at the end we're like, we'll go round the table. Who's gonna win? Oh, cowboys? Then my cowboys.
I'm a cowboy through he didn't want to give up the U the secret sauce thotful and he had this little ac John, I heard you guys kept trying to probe, Like, so if it's just a paint man, what they do to Yeah, Emmy didn't want to give up the secret sauce? All right, So what do they give you? That secret saw that they're gonna give Dak on Sunday? He didn't want to get getting the rest down seven and I ain't talking about John Elway might be his big breakout.
Saw Dak doing something. He was taking some snaps from center or however. They get him the ball and he would drop back and he would do his little hip things and rotate and go through his reads, and then he would take the ball and he would underhand it back to the center. Come on, Cooper, let's go baby. That's I'm just saying, you know, can I can I get a swig? Of water here, Yeah, get your swig.
Gets your swig of water. You're a professional swig of water right in the middle of your like the water rushing down him out. All right, what do we want to do first? Cowboys defense Eagles offense? Which which way I want to do with this? What are you feeling? Let's go with Eagles offense. Ye. Anything to be scared about on this and on the articles this morning, Carson Wentz, they asked him, this is really the biggest game he's ever played, because every time the other Eagles have had
big games, he's been injured. And he responded, yeah, you're probably Yeah, you're probably right. So what do you think is that factor in it all? I go back to what Trent Dilfer said two days ago and he called. He said that that Carson Wentz has the superman mentality. I heard that, yes, sir, I heard that he had the superman mentality that he wants to And it's a good thing, um, but it sometimes gets in the way
of rational thinking what you should do right right? Instead of saying, you know what I'm gonna I want to force this ball? Now, do I have the arm talent to do it? And this is This is not just what Carson. This was a lot of guys. You have arm talent, John Elway, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve you know. I mean, the list goes on and on and on and on and on. Guys who have this supreme arm talent or this talented arm Jay Cutler, guys like that. What happens is mentally, you know that I have the
ability to make any in every throw. I have the arm power to fit balls in where they shouldn't go. The difference is who. There's two parts to this. One do I have guys on the other end that can help me? Two? Do I know when and where to be Superman? Because sometimes Clark Kent is what you need. Clark Kent is, Hey, let's give the ball to Savings
in this checkdown and let him run. We don't have to we don't have to go Superman and fit it down the field twenty yards for a potential interception, a tip ball or drop pass, and now we're looking to punk or turn the ball over. So having that mentality of I can rip open my shirt and I had this on my attention with this arm that I have, or button up the suit, put the glasses on and just be Clark Kent. So for Carson Wentz, it's something to worry about because he has the ability to be Superman.
Where we have to capitalize is when he's Superman, when Clark Kent should have been the option be Kryptonite, be Kryptonite. And what he doesn't have at his leisure right now is credible receivers. Now, on the flip side of that, what are the two positions defensively when we talk about Cowboys defense that has hurt us all year long, there's two positions tight ends and virsatile running backs, screens and mobile quarterbacks. He has that right This Samuel's kid is versatile.
He can catch out of the backfield, screenplay, dump it off to him. He's good. And you have Dallas, Dallas Goddard, and you have Zach Ertz and the little kid Boston Scott then came to Life thirty five, Yes to Life Man. So so now you're saying in certain new guy right, insert in certain new guy and Smith Sean Lee still a little bit banged up, and we've seen what go back and watch the Chicago film they picked on Jalen Smith and Coverage. So you got two really good tight
ends coming at you. Also what they're running back. So if now, if, if, if Doug Peterson is worth anything, he's gonna go back and watch what Naggie was doing and saying, how can I get my guys matched up with their guys tight ends and running backs to be successful to the Green Bay game? Huh God for baity, go back to the Green Bay game? Right? So so there there, there's plenty on film defensively if they can
do so. Now when you look at what we should do defensively again, I said this a little bit yester today, Let Carson Wentz lose a game for you, but trick him. He's he's too good of a quarterback to just line up. You can't just you can't do what you did in the Jets game. What do you do disguy's coverages? Yeah, yeah, you got you. You have to confuse him, right because you know he doesn't have he got our Sega white side. Um, he has Ward, he might have back Aguilar, but none
of those guys should fear you. Like none of those guys. When you lay your head down on the pillars to night as a dB, you're like, I gotta do with this joke on Sunday. Nobody. This ain't DeAndre Hopkins ain't out there, Julio ain't out there. You don't have to face Odell Beckham or into none of those guys. These guys should be manageable to be handled, even if you have to, even if you have to say, we're gonna go man and man in some sort at some point in times of the game to bring a little bit
more pressure. But don't let Carson Wentz just sit back there and say, oh, they're in a cover too cool. We saw that on film. Here you go, Dallas Goddard, Here you go, zach Ertz. They're gonna he'll kill you that way. The sky's it make him see different things, make him have to go through his reads and then capitalize on it when he wants to become Superman. When Clark Kent should be the to the answer anything at
all on offense, Nate, that concerns you at all? Their offense, Yeah, just play play your keys, play your keys, you know, play you assignment alignment is big this week. Gett got to do nothing special, you know, And uh, that's what they struggle with all years, doing your job right saying week they showed evidence there's that word. They show evidence and they can do the right thing. Okay, that's all I'm saying. See, he sets things, he goes. If I stop right now, I won't dig myself into a whole
where I can't get out of. Right. But I'm just saying. I've just said I'm agree with you. Jes. You know you want to be deceptive. That would get you locked up, I mean, but anyway, Okay, Yeah, I want to be deceptive and steal. Yeah, that's what I want to do. I want to be deceptive. Let them see one thing and steal what. You got a pretty solid offensive line though done. Yeah, they got a nice offensively, but Lane Johnson is dealing with a high ankle spring and the
level tackle is out, should be out. So Kelsey's a pro bowler. And then brook the right guard. Brooks is having a pretty good year apparently according to But but you know what, though the mother three questionable left guard, left tackle, right tackles out, he's out. I think, how was it? How wasn't playing in Philly when you played Nate ugly Man? We was on an ugly field, a raggedy field. Oh my god? That was that? That The
Clars didn't get you to feel to get you. And if they didn't get you, the fans it was gonna get you. It was it was like you didn't want to go in now. Man, I'll tell you what Peter's practice yesterday. Lane Johnson didn't. He has a high ankle sprain. They they might have the worst fans in the league. Like they're just right, they're nasty, and it's between them and the Raiders. Yeah, the Raiders are the Raiders. You fear for your life. The Eagles. I just feel like
I'm gonna get punched in the face Raiders. I feel like I might actually lose my life whenever we would go there. When I played, no females and my family were allowed to go to the Philadelphia games, Like it's an hour and fifteen minute draw from Jersey to Philly. No like mom's aunts, nieces, girls, nobody can go to
Philly games. That you were feeling because it was just too much to worry about, yeah, coming to a game having a cowboy jersey on, and so it was only guys, like only the fellas could go to these games because it was just too much to worry about having to defend one Someone saying huthing about me on the field. Now, they probably didn't say much because I probably wasn't want
to feel that much. But still in the fact that if they got Holly jersey's onto, someone goes that's bum right, My brothers gonna say, watch your mouth, but that's not going to be acceptable. So it was always Philly was always It was always just uncles, brothers, homeboys that went to those games. None of the females in my family were allowed to go to Philly games. Had a friend of mine, a girl, huge Cowboys fan. She went wore her jersey with a group of guys, there was probably
six of them. She was the only only girl. She got her hair pulled, she had people spit at her, she had yeah, I mean, and she was with a big, big group of you know, bigger guys and still like and where it ain't no better place to play Whoop day behind You can shut them up quick. If you jump, they will they will boo by the third and go to feed. And when they play in our stadium there
there are more arrests. They have a little jail down in the do you know that down the field at our stadium they have a little little I think it's like two cells, a little small ones. They rotate people and they arrest them, take them to the cell. A car comes down, they load them up, and it's just NonStop. It's like a it's like a revolving door. When we play the Eagles, fans are just they're just mean people. Man, They're just not nice. It's a bad place to go. Now.
I want to say, for us defensively, can we recapture what we had last week? Now? An twine Woods comes out and he says that he played with a little extra motivation after he got arrested. I hate, I hate, don't don't that's what he saying to prove himself. I didn't say it, he said it. Hey, when a player say that he is the dog fight for your life, your playoff life you. But when you say something like that, doesn't doesn't it put out that like you weren't trying
that hard to begin with? Thank you, thank you? Can they recapture that right? Can they recapture that dominance? Upfront? So we got to put him in jail every week? I hope it's not the case. Man, Please, don't even man, even I one dumb enough to say that stuff. But all the crazy, I just take the team through. Come on, man, just quiet a plague, be good because that's who you are. Just be good, because that's who you are, and you
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looking at that's colorful? What is that? Oh? This is uh five thirty eights websites projections for the playoffs. They got Dallas fifty four percent chance of winning making the playoffs, although they have they only have them at fifty four percent. Yeah, they part of that is because they have they are picking Philadelphia win chance waiting. So really, wow, I think sports some of the sports illustration guys are picking Philadelphia and it's kinda they're not buying in Huh, it's a
home game. They need that the main reason their homes. They need to see more evidence heard that before him of what this team is. They had had seven views. Okay, so they need to either get over and get what us to get going. I don't I don't know exactly what Kyle has pulled up, but he's got something from Emmett from last night. What is it. Kyle set it
up for us. Yeah. So last night, of course, Emmett was on the Miller Lite Happy Hour with You Up with Mickey's Pagnolan r J Choppy from the Fan, and he was kind of talking about that consistency. Hey, prove yourself, show me what you can do. And this is what he said last night. It's funny that I'm thinking this way because consistency is one thing that I live by. The consistency of a team, the consistency of play calling, the consistency of evolving. Those are the things that I
looked towards. In my mind, I'm thinking I'm mental letdown because of the way that we won last week, which also falls right back into the vein of inconsistency. And so it's tough for me to get to their place to what to beat Washington, not have a letdown game, even though numbers wisely would mean and win something in the playoffs, and then I'm back in See, I don't have to go to convincingly. I just gotta go to the productis you gotta show me some productivity that says
we're good and we're okay. I don't care if Philly Bringers is our best, their best. It's gonna be a great game. You showed me a great game. You show me something that shows consistency in the running game, in the passing game, and the balance that we need and the defense playing hard. You show me that I can buy into it. So just with one game, could you do? They have to continue to do that? They got to continue to do it. Have any games for you to buy back in For me, I gotta see it every
time you play. From this point fourth, I think about that. Nate Well, I think he made a great stereo. He had made a great statement, and he said that from this point on. He didn't say from seven losses on. He said, from this one win on you have to show him that why and that? But but why because of because? What? Because? Right? But he's because Shannon was leading the witness. So he said from this point on, I'm just trying to be honest with you, fellas know
that's what he said. That's what he said. But what from that point? What has letter? Kyle? You have a point in there at the end where they where let's see where Emmett go for it. When they asked about who do you think winning this game? Can you find that for me, and when you do, you know, blast the ears of Holly with it. When you want the prediction. Yeah, yeah, I want to prediction when you find it. But I'm gonna tell you some Shannon. You did a master with job.
I listened to out of that last night. But you lead Witness a lot too. Yeah. No, I was just I was stating what I needed to see. Yeah, to see if Emmett thought the same thing or if he thought of the witness. Thank you, and he he thinks a different way, and it was a good point of view. He needs to see him do it every single game from this point on, from this win on, if you could play that last part, let's see from this point
on that meeting going and going forward over ruled. See Jesse, I'm gonna tell you you know you're a great man. Jes had a first of all, tell us, how did you think go last night? You helped the kids? Tell us that it went fantastic, you know, um helped up seven kids. Um. It was a great event. Man, my eighth one that we've done, and this one they get
more special every single time. And last night I was telling you guys earlier we had a young lady who sixteen years old, she found out in August that she has terminal brain cancer, and you know, it broke me. Cancer impacted my life. It took my dad to my grandmother, but to see the strength of this teenager had and how she was still upbeat and happy knowing that there could possibly be a death sentence, there's no cure for it,
and she was just excited. And the sole purpose of it is for if just for a moment, if just for a moment, she didn't have to think about cancer, that was my goal. If just for one moment, for sixty seconds, she just thought about having a good time, and we did that and she enjoyed all the gifts, So thank you to everyone who donated and who everyone who gave. And she enjoyed the gifts and she had
a great time. She enjoyed the food um. And it was just, you know, just when she came up to get her presence, I was I purposely made her go lies because I was preparing myself mentally not to break down, and the moment she stepped in front of me, I broke down because it just you look at someone and you think, like, I'm not tough. You think Oh you've done this and this and it you've been like, that's toughness that that is, that is pure toughness. And her
smile and her spirit. Like, to me, that's toughness that right there. And I told her, I said, you know, I'm I'm fighting with you every day, every single day, I'm praying for you and I'm fighting with you and uh you know wow. Yeah. Yeah. One of the one of the things you hear all the bad stuff in the in the press about players getting arrested, players this, and you don't see enough of like using that platform, like you know, like the way you helping people out.
There's there's tons of guys in that locker room that you've never even heard of, that have little foundation. Yeah, Antoine, you know, um I noticed Instagram Cavan, you know, justin March, Like there's all these guys that really not your top
name guys. Yeah, they do a lot too, because you know, obviously they get paid the millions of dollars, but you've got guys that are on the lower tier that that go do things in the community and do things like this, and one of the things, like you said, when they
go do the hospital visits. I've been fortunate enough to go several years, and even if you're not a big name guy, when you walk in a room and they can just forget about all the machines that are around them and how they're what they battle on a daily, minute by minute basis and getting stuck by needles. You can see all that leave and a little smile on their face. And for the five minutes that the guys are in the room, you're able to impact a life.
And that's that's really when you talk about on the field and you're mad because the cowboys lost and all this, Yeah, that's that's escape from reality. Reality is that kind of stuff when you can impact somebody's life, and it's it's great that you do that. And I hope, you know, I hope that it gets bigger and bigger every year and you're able to hope help more families going forward.
And that's just that's awesome that you do that. Absolutely, and and you know, and I it reminds you, like you think you're having a bad day, right your flat tire or you lost your while whatever, by the shout to the officer marks my guy, but and then you remember, like this girl woke up this morning, and it's literally crossing off the days where she may be gone. That just gives you a different perspective. It gives me a
different perspective on how life should be. And the message I told all the kids last night was simply, you don't have one. It doesn't take a lot of money to be kind, be kind to people. We need more kind people in the world. Like right now, kindness is is lacking across the board. And to give whatever it is you can. Everyone's not a fortune, everyone's not fortunate enough to give monetarily. But you've been given a gift.
Everyone has a gift, whether it's to play in the National Football League, whether it's technical, whether it's whatever it is. You've been given some sort of gift, give it. Whatever that gift is, give it. Someone needs it. Someone needs your gift. And I always say that we weren't put on this earth. The gift that we were given was never for us. It was for us to give it to other people. And if other people, if everybody is giving their gifts and giving their gifts, now we have
a society of givers and kind people. And now that's spreading the love and the joy all across the board don't be selfish with your gifts. Now, if you if you're fortunate enough to have, you know, a plethora of money, that's fine, that's great, but you don't need that to give You don't need that to help people. It's it's a bonus. And so yeah, uh yeah, it was. It was great man. And I told him last night, I said, I plan on sticking with you guys, and we're still
trying to do some more things for her. We were talking about that before before the show. And there's still opportunities too to donate if you want to um. The link is in my Twitter bio at mister fourth Along, or you can still hit me up email me at Holly's h O l o E Y s Helping h E L p I n G Hands h A n D s at gmail dot com. I continue the link that way because we want to stick with this family.
They had to travel back and forth to Houston for treatments, and you know, we're just trying to make whatever time that she has left one that's memorable. So she had brothers and sisters. She has an older brother, younger older brother, and younger brother and they were there last night and they got Christmas gifts as well. They were excited. A younger brother love Fortnite. We have a bunch of Fortnite stuff. Older brother, he's more like the techie type. And I
didn't know what a terror was Tera bite ter. We got in one of those. I didn't know what it was. You would have thought he was so excited. I can put so much stuff on, so he was super excited. Man. And got him some some clothes and it was just, yeah, what kind of stuff was did she into? Um? She likes the Office, the show The Office. Um, what's this guy's name is rain something? The Dwight Dwight she loved Dwite from the Office. Um, she's not she's not really
big into sports. Um, she likes the office, Comic con type stuff, post malons her favorite artists. Um, she's gained a lot of weight from the steroids and stuff from from I guess from chemo and stuff like that. But yeah, she's just she's just a happy kid. She's just that, she's just a happy kid. Man. And we had some mother. We had another family of of boys, young boys and bikes. Got them bikes and games and yeah that's cool, man. It was a great It was a great deal. So yeah,
so y'all want to help out, it's not too late. No, go go go to Jesse's Twitter, I mean a fourth long or Holly's helping hands. Holly's helping hands at gmail dot com. Why east Side and him Nate, No, just looking at and enjoying the conversation. Now we can get back to me tearing it up about this football. No, well, Jesse, it's not whether you win or lose. Always about winning. It's not whether you win always about this case. So
why do we keep score? Because all that's about for the Dallas Cowboys maintaining the consistency of what they started this last game that leads to a what to win? No, No, but I'm saying you you talk about getting back to you know you had like the keeping score is not with Nathaniel, No, it's always Jesse. Yeah, it's not. That's why the people are being misled by the things that you say. Yeah, we're doing this again to marrow too.
What's that this bit? This was this going to trial, this court bit, this law you're in this leading the witness, I mean, live it yesterday, where you keep trying to bring it up today or Kyle did you find where they got to the end of the game? Yes, I did. Can we go to your voice? The voice drinking whiskey? Back there, Marlboro. This is Kyle. I'm still here. That douggi fresh? What's up? Man? Hey? Yo? What's up? What are you doing? Well? Kyle has some television business to
attend to. Oh high school? Put the camera on yourself. It's been a while since everybody's seen you. Remember which button is? No? No, no, no, no? He what's up? Douggy? Hey, how y'all doing great? Man? How are you pretty good? Pretty good? Hey? So we was asking Kyle to find the Emmett Smith thing where you don't worry about. Anna did a fabulous job. Yeah, he cuted it up for me. Okay, can you play that please? I will play all right
in it? Oh we know whatever saying. Hey, I'm gonna always go my boys, no matter what period sounds like right that exactly in the booth, because I'm gonna be very partial. Yes, I am, just make that very clear, very partial to my cowboys. It's cowboys, cowboys, cowboys, and I'm gonna lose all kinds of credibility when it come down to being an analysis. This has been awesome. Thank you for coming and hanging out. Cut from the same cost Florida man, Mike Irving the same way. Man, it's
that Flawida thing, that dedication. Baby, Tell what it is being under one hold, I've been good? Is that a past tense? Uh? Is that what you are now? I mean, Jesse going forward just from this point just premadonna ware that receivers think from this point forward, I've been good.
Jesse has a saying I had on that I've been good on the front, I mean, and that's just arrogance civil from this point forward, that's just arrogan civilwide receiver from this point letting everybody know that I'm good man, I'm good, you know. Come on, bro, Wow, all right? If I don't say, who's gonna say? I don't know man exactly. Let's get my man from d Land and call in nobody on this show. Yeah, some of you
North Carolina guys. You know they kiss up to you. Hey, listen, if I don't in the words of to I love me some meat selfish dude, Man, I can't love others. I love me though, I love you, I love Shannon, I love Kurt, I love Douglas. Oh love you too, but I love me some meat. But she loved the Cowboys of course. Okay, we'll quit talking bad about Do you love the Patriots? Listen? I love that star. Do you love the Patriots? Yeah? Yeah, I do love that.
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or Wednesday. Let me say this here saying it was brought to my attention by a concern citizen. Oh, I know where this is. That accident can be into making and we want to lurch y'all. What was you talking about in the break, Jesse about the injury situation. UM, I just think that we're not making a big enough deal about this Dak situation. And I know of that. Jason has come out and said, you know whatever, he was a little more pessimistic today. I'm trying to find
his quote. And Jerry came out on the fan earlier and was saying, like he'll go on all that kind of stuff. But this is a guy who who has had a durable history and up until this week has never been has never been listed on the on the injury report for limited practice, and now this week he's limited. We're already talking about here at his risks a week ago. I don't know what's going on with. People are saying it's the hairline fracture, it's a bump finger, whatever it is.
His point, his index finger is hurting, and then now you add the throwing shoulder, the ac joint. Herett said today that Prescott is having a hard time functioning. This man ain't playing. They're hopeful he plays something terrible. Cooper said yesterday, right, you ain't got to rewrite the playbook or nothing. You're just going and do what you do. That's good as who said that, Cooper Rush he said,
don't scheme for me. Yeah, he said, you ain't gotta do now you gotta rewrite and saying just believe me, your coachesn't believe in the scheme and let's go. So we asked Rush ready to do what he asked him, and about that last night because he had the same type of injury in that Giants game. Yeah, And we asked him, you played with that, right, and he just laughed and looked at us and he goes, yeah, but
I did not have to throw the ball. And he he just looked at us and smiled like he didn't say it, but the look on his face was there's no way in hell this guy's gonna be able to throw ball on Sunday, at least not deep like, go ahead, I'm just I'm this is you know. Uh. Phillips got up. St Rob. Rob Phillips came said, man, what do you think? And I said, Rob, I said, I say. That's where I'm different than everybody. The injury report to me don't
mean nothing but what I believe in. If say, if I was the head coach, if if Jesse's injury like Jesse got the injury, he may not play. I don't. I don't care if you know, I don't know. I really don't. But you know, because the guy behind him, you know, you practicing, and I want to know as soon as possible that Jesse is gonna be my backup Cooper Rush. He don't need to be a game time decision. If Dad can't throw with that type of injury from both running backs, your starter, and the Hall of Fame
saying that's crazy. That's basically what they say. That's crazy. I wouldn't even be waiting now. They may be waiting because maybe Dad's telling them, but I'm gonna be like, Okay, throw the football. And we know how I got Bret brett Is. He was like, Okay, you can't throw the day. We'll try again tomorrow. Throw the football now to tomorrow. Come, you can't throw that football. I don't think that's nothing super fantastic gonna happen unless you are praying, man, that
you're gonna hit that field. I would not waste no time with that. Get healthy, Jesse in case we do have to do cruple rushing, then this thing fall in on us. So you'd be ready for the Red Skins. You have an outside chance, do y'all? That's what do you think? Maybe they already know and they just are playing this out in the media so they don't know how to game plan, and that they really know they should let me say, let me say this, Jesse. You
can tell them how you feel. If we had a serviceable backup, a serviceable real backup that you that you were proud of, then I may play the back and forth game. But you can't play. What you know about Cooper Cup Rush whatever, whatever? What's your nobody being honest? Now you know looks, but what you nobody you know, what you've seen is nothing in preseason, what you've seen is nothing thing. So don't play you you you it ain't like you a tend to win team. Are you
playing for home field advantage to the playoffs? You trying to play for the playoffs? Getting the boy ready to getting the boy ready? Now? If you if you, like I said, if we had a service back service or serviceable back up, I'll play the game. Okay, we're gonna kid, kid right now. And I hate to say this by Cooper Rush as a right now. You don't even think you can play. See, you don't even think you can play. I don't think you play. You don't think you can play.
You don't even think he's a serviceable quarterback. So don't play with this kid. If he's your man, give him. I'll tell you what I do not want to happen. And this is for the sake of this team and this staff and us on the show, do not What I don't want to happen is Cooper Rush has to start and has a terrible game, and then we open up this whole box of why did you not You lost that game, You missed the playoffs because you didn't have a suitable backup to support Dak. Like I don't
want to go down that road. Just go win the game, Like I don't want to. I don't want to talk about that next week, because that's gonna be all anything anybody talks that happened. More importantly, that gotta play, because it's too minute Pandora boxes that can spring open if
somebody else play. Because every team, every team that's in Super Bowl contention right now, I think, has a serviceable quarterback or has the ability to coach it to have a serviceable quarterback backup right, Yeah, allah, the Stealers you been temple with that back. Those two guys had ever heard of winning games. So here we go in a situation. You know, Stephen, they say this, and I'm starting to believe it. Anything that can go wrong for the Dallas Cowboys.
Guess what but go wrong? Yeah? And so now here we sit the biggest game of all of our careers, because you know, I feel like I'm a part of that out there. So the biggest thing, the biggest game, and I don't know how many years, guess what happens? Our quarterback's questionable. This is for all the marvels because next week, if the Eagles beat us, they ain't losing to the Giants because they momentum is gonna be so high.
They they and they've been on that mountaintop. And when they do it with wins because they never did it with him, he got more questions about him than that ass, so they ain't never did it with him. And if they do it with him and beat us, so now we'll be sitting there next week, Well why we didn't get why would Nam? Please? I ain't want to go down that road. I ain't want to go down that road. Think about that, man, I am. It hurts my head. So Jesse, I don't I don't know. I mean, Kurt,
I hope he's a serviceable back up. But how many teams really have one other than New Orleans? Just the basic of teams that know how important that if you say one thing you cannot do. You know Smiths in Seattle, tim Boils in Green Bay. I mean when they those cities feel kind, they're fans. You couldn't have told me if Big Ben for the Pittsburgh still is. Like a lot of people even thought with h the Saints, everybody
thought it that they ain't want to say it. I someone on saying, Okay, these scenes won with their backups, and it was no question in their mind. And they probably had guys sitting up saying like me and Jesse, Hey man, I don't want to see that backup. That's what they're saying with the stealers. But guess what they back up done the job. Maybe I back up coming
there one game if this scene get ugly. I think the difference is that may give those other teams a little bit more or in the media heads that's talking about those teams a little bit more confidence. Is when you look on the sideline like you believe in Mike Thomlin, some dude, some people are want to run them out of there, not as if yesterday, but you believe in Sean Payton right now. I think when your quarterback has
gone for the year, your expectations change. But then when you start proving what you can do with backups like Mike Thomlin has done and put their team in a position to possibly make the playoffs, or you know, if your guy's missing for a couple of games, you're like, I can I can manufacture you know, because even when, when, when, when, when, when Drew Brees went out, people were saying, well, if we could just be three and three when Drew Brees come back, we're good And they were like, nah, we
can be six and ol. When Drew Brees come back, right, the outside world was saying three and three and you guys are good, Drew comes back, you pick up when you left off and get you know right the ship. Well, they were like, no, we're gonna go six and oh and ended up going five and one. So I think a little bit that has to do. And we're in a time right now where and maybe it's just us, but no one has confidence when you look to the sideline, no one, no one has confidence in that sideline that
they can produce. If there was no Dak Prescott. Hell, we have a hard time believing that they can with a healthy Dak Prescott. So just imagine if you're saying we're not gonna have Dak Prescott and now trying to make us believe, and again, we don't have the ones that have to believe, right, there's a few three guys in the locker room gonna have to believe. But in the sense make us believe that you can put together enough to get a guy who all he had to do was beat out Mike White and that wasn't a
tough that wasn't a tough task. Then you're gonna be able to put him on the field and realistically go in a football game against your division opponent on the road in a hostile environment for the division, could just be a motivating factor in the The defense is like, man, we really gotta we gotta really buckle down now or the or Zeke's you know, the offensive length, like we gotta get this run game going. I mean, yeah, yeah,
you can rally around that point. But again, it's gonna come to a point in time where he's gonna have to make a throw. He still got to put points on the boarder to win a football game. He's gonna have to make a throw, you know. And and I'm gonna say another thing. You know people, you know, people say yeah, I just get give give Dak a little, a little something to ease the pain. You may not
want to be doing all of that. This is a guy that you got your franchise riding on, so you may not want to like they Newton can go get a couple of shots because all I'm gonna do is this. I ain't gonna never raise up here, go down here and do all this right here. You're talking about the throwing arm on the guy you're about to give, so you gotta he's gonna be thinking too, like but not even not even career. Let's think about short term. Okay,
you shoot them up. We've we've been shot up. Yeah, right, you make good, make the playoffs. What happens you feel now? What happens? Right? Because I don't feel it, so I'm letting it rip. Yeah, you don't know what damage you're doing. And then when when you come up that, you come up that high you like them. Now you be out two or three weeks, never recover. You're like, man, I you know, maybe I should have threw the two for the yard bombs. We won, but my shoulder is killing me.
You know what I'm saying. So there's a fine line of that and also arm angles. Right, I'm rolling out. Can I throw here? Can I throw there? That I load up? And then on top of that is and if I'm philly, I'm I'm especially early on, you're going after that shoulder. I'm saying, make him make a throw. We're gonna We're gonna man him. I'm gonna blitz him. And even if I can just tap it, I want him to feel us. Right I'm sending I'm sending six, I'm sending seven, and I just want to tap it.
Touch him every play right, every play fifteen And there's cultures that do this. You get a fifteen yard penalty. The first one's on me. Tap them. Let him know that where there you gotta tap them. You know what I'm saying. If you if you're gonna come in there now, I don't make it egregious. Get him on the ground. You know what I'm saying. But if if you come in there and you will step late, that one's on us.
We'll live with that one, especially earlier in the game, because I'm going to You're going and this is this is why I lean a little bit with you, Nate of go ahead on play Cooper Rush. Wait to say that again. I'm leaning towards Nate was saying, you might have to go in and play a little bit of Cooper Rush. If the shoulder, if that should if he ain't being able to throw the ball, if it's if he if he can't throw the ball past ten yards, set him point, there's no point to put him out there.
So this is a tricky deal because you know he's gonna want to play. It seems right right, He's gonna tell you I can go. So it's gonna be really BRIT's gonna have a big decision in this. The doctors are gonna have a big decision in this, and BRIT's gonna put the player first. He's gonna put the future of the player first. He's not gonna look Brits. Brit is not going to look at this and say, man, I showed it like a T shirt and a hat. I should to say that I want another division. That's
not that's not Brits. That's not that's not Greg. He's a player guy, play Brits. Like my job, my license is I swore into an oath that I am to take care of the player's health and if playing him will damage it more going forward, he ain't playing right, and that's britt Then he ain't gonna sit there and be like, yeah, we need a division. That ain't That ain't He don't get a bonus for going to the division. You know what I'm saying. He got enough division. He'd
been around long enough. He got enough division to bowl hats, t shirts and all that kind of stuff. So he's going to put the player first and not the organization or what the fans want, the a division championship and that and all that being said, let's pretty this kid
can play. Because if I'm if I'm if I'm kit, if I'm if I'm killing, if I'm killing from Kitten, if I'm if I'm coach Garrett, I'm having a conversation right now, if we're putting together a game plant, I'm saying, okay, from what you feel right now with no injections, and we had to go out right now with no injections. What throws can you make? Can you make today? Right now? No shots know anything? What throws can you make today? You can toss an underhand about five feet? Yeah, that's
not gonna cut a side arm. So I want to know. I want to know if we had to go out today, if the game was to day, what throws could you make today? Right? Let me ask you this, because when it's an offensive lineman or another another guy, a lot of times they make the trip right and then they go out on Sunday before the game and they work with Britt or whoever, and they see if they can go.
Is this the type of injury where you may not know until three hours before the game whether he can go, or is this the type of thing he can fly with the team? I got you wake up in the morning and he'll know. So you think personally, I would shoot it up beforehand? How you feel? How do you feel? You're saying tomorrow right, see if it's bearable with some kind of I ain't riding with ya now one, No, I ain't. I'm not saying you go out there and
throw forty balls. I'm just saying, like I need to know. I understand what you're saying, and I agree. But what I'm saying, if I'm Dad, we ain't shooting up nothing on this not on the right, we shoot up on the left. We ain't shooting up on the right, I would not know, sir. No, sir, it's too much riding on the right. Thirty five million dollars, right, it's too much riding on the right, bro. And it ain't so much the money is cannot play because you may want
to franchise. Man, that's fine, and it's still a lot of money, but it cannot play after that. Is this one game that important? No, because if it was you the won the Jets game, if it was you the one in the Minnesota game, and I'm just being on is now, if it was you're the one the Jets game, and you're the one in the Minnesota game, because now you're gonna have to scheme up some stuff. If he can't throw, you got to do something out of character, you know, like you did last week. That's run the
ball more than you passed it. So no, maam, nah, they shoot it up and see how it go. Throw twenty passes. Nah, what percentage would you be comfortable? Jack came and said, I'm feeling seventy seventy five? What percentage would you feel comfortable with? I'm with you. I think it's more on what throws can you make rather than
what percentage healthy are you? Like? Like, I think it goes hand in hand if you and I mean you can throw a lot of the passes, you know not maybe not with the same power and speed which you can throw a lot of the pass So it goes hand in hand. One ain't gonna work without us because you can be feeling great, but if you thought the ball all over the place, it ain't doing you no good. And you couple that with the finger is still jacked up, ye,
going on. We saw we saw the ball kind of spread around the football field a little bit last week. And think about this. You get in that game and you know how dak is. Your instincts take over. You run the ball and you follow on that thing one more time the wrong way. That's what I'm saying. Now you're seeing it. That's because people are telling me, well, he finished the game last week. And I'm telling y'all,
adrenaline is a hell of a drug. Listen. I've played with meniscus and it's like acl tear, but adrenaline will send you to heights you've never been. Sit on it for two days and tell me how. And then when you come down off that thing about four out of the game is over. I think my biggest you're screaming, bloody marrige, My biggest concern would be him getting in
the game. And yeah, you could sit back there and just say be safe and like just get rid of the ball, do this, but at some point didn't right, did to be safe with Tony, But that would be my biggest concern. If you do some, you do some, you're sacrificing one game to possibly do something long term, even if it's not from throwing, if it's you fall on it wrong or you trip over an officiven and drag you to terry. Yeah, what is his agent saying? Many that they just don't care if the Cowboys win.
He's like, listen, what is what's three percent of of one hundred and fifty million? Here's what I'm saying. Here's what his agents saying. How does this look right? And how does this which one of those exactly? Because that could be the difference here, right. He was like, man, that's I'm a beach house. Yeah, man, it's gonna be interesting. When does it is a practice report come back out today? They finished practice, so we'll have the report tomorrow and
probably what's tomorrow tomorrow be Friday. You know he was limited today. I mean, I think it's safe to say he's he's limited. You know what. Michael Tyrann Smith were back, Sean Lee Thomas were there but didn't participate. Pres Prescott, so that's one with Joe Thomas. Hey, I mean, look yesterday's report. Hey, Doug you still back there? They're going I am yeah, knee, he has a knee issue. He did not practice the last two days. Rethrow that from
yesterday real quick. Bennett did not practice yesterday with a foot illness, but apparently didn't today either. Lyle cons is limited with a knee. C J. Goodwin had surgery on his thumb, but he's expected to play. They're going to put a cast on it. Um. Chris Jones abdomen that popped up. He was limited. Sean Lee did not play because it is same pictorial thigh issue. He probably won't practice song week. I would guess. Uh. Jordan lewis limited
with knees like Martin limited with ankle. Dak Prescott obviously, Tyren Smith did not practice with us. He's got a style in his eye. Joe Thomas did not practice his knee and then Van dresh and that's a long list to dude, I tell it's here. Man. You know, I've been thinking about this Dak name more than I you know, been talking about it. But you know, like I tell people, see because it ain't if you had a veteran backup.
I ain't saying that he would be better. I'm gonna be strong or be more athletic than than this kid, Cooper Rush. But okay, if Cooper Rush line up, what do you think the defensive coordinating gonna say so? And he gonna do what he blitz so man to man and get him every rep. See, Dak has did this for three years now, four years. So if Dak don't get a rep, it don't matter. But it does matter. If Cooper Rush gets some reps, it matters more than anything.
So that because the more he sees, even though they will be live bullets, can live bullets way different than the planks. You know, Let him get every chance to be as confident as he can, is what I'm saying. You know, all right, we'll keep an eye on it when we come back tomorrow. We should have some more information, Kurt, and we want to hear from you guys tomorrow call us eight eight eight eight five five to twelve thirty. Do you have anything that you're playing? No, we don't
have Do you have a meeting? We'll have school and don't sleep late twelve thirty. Yes it is Nate. Thanks for bringing it. Jesse. Thanks, got one of those twelve thirty reminders because you always say you're gonna send me. I've never gotten one. Because you're good, because you mean today, except when you got the cops on you. Shout out, Shout out the office, some marks again, shout out to you always. We're gonna wear some special T shirts tomorrow too, alright,
Mexical T shirts. No, no, that's on hold. Douglas, thanks for filling in man, you bet, Kyle, Thanks for getting a start in Caden. Thanks's up staying away? What's up? Twelve thirty tomorrow? Hanging with the Boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
