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Hangin' with the Boys: No Cakewalk

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Opening in Tampa? Four road games in five weeks? Tough matchups vs. Washington? Just when and where they’re playing is going to make this a tough season. The boys talk schedule and rookie minicamp, plus how the Post Malone/Jerry Jones video came together.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sideline. He is hanging with the Boys, presented by Windstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Whoop, whoop. It's Thursday, eleven thirty, Hey in Central Time. It is

a big day to day. But first you have a live Oh look at the Tostitos Championship Plaza at Ford Center and at the Star Frisco at sixty eight degrees feels like sixty eight. There's a high of seventy three, a level fifty five. This is perfect Texas weather. It's sunny, it's beautiful outside. It looks like you well you had we had somebody out there working out earlier. But today

is a huge day. And this is a huge show because we are the first show that gets to talk about the twenty twenty one Dallas Cowboys schedule on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Fellas, we were the last show before the draft. We're the first show after the schedules released. It's a huge day. I have the schedule here? You got a copy, Kurt, I got to copy, Nate, You know I could just I've already picked out the games that we're gonna win. It help if you talked into

the microphone. I've already picked out the games that we're gonna win. Jesse, do you have a copy of the schedule? Studio? This? I do have a copy of the schedule. Okay. This is why I could not be in the studio, because I could not suffer. Oh god, the cowboy colored. I want to say this properly. Be care just drinking, be careful, just choking. That name is going to be doing on this show today when we go through this schedule, because of course, as as only Nathaniel Newton can do, I

just have a strong losing four games already. No, no, no, we're not We're not predicted. We're not predicted. Show games right now, preseason? Four games right now, preseason you already called well, fellas, let's get it. How how are you all today? First, Kurt, I'm excited, man, Yeah, yeah, good you good? Name. Tell you why I'm excited? Why are you excited? Because they showed me a picture of mister Jones. Some young man doing a great Who put that together?

Coast Malone? This thing was nice and Kurt showed it to me and I just I'm excited about's baby there. Yeah, San, it wasn't just me. There were a lot of people involved, really talented people that helped us pull that off. And they done. Was it talented on They had mister Jones and a thousand schedules. It was fun. We'll get into that later, but it was a great It was a great day. I think I think we did that on a Wednesday and we had the show the next day.

I think I mentioned working on the schedule least videos, but that's that's what we were working on. We had good old post de post malone out here at the Star with mister Jones playing beer pong and making it rain schedules. Yes, it was so well, get into that later. But today, Jesse, how are you by the way, I'm doing well, man, I'm just happy to be here. I wish you were here. You're not. You're the only crew member that it refuses to come into the studio. But

that's okay. You know what, the gays listen, the gas prices are going up. I'm trying to be I'm trying to be the best for them. I'm trying to do the best thing I can do for the community. You know, I don't want to be one of the people that have to go to gas. They's a whore gas. So you know, I just felt this was best for economy, for your economy, you know, the my sanity. You know what I'm saying with this with the gas shortness. You know,

who wants to deal with the gas shortness? You make the same ten dollars a show, whether you'll drive all the way up here or not. I do it from the officer from home too. Yeah, yeah, Why do I feel like we get left on the porch while we're waiting? But I show up. I'm here, you barely eight minutes before the show if we were having a show, and then you show up one minute after the show starts.

I showed up three minutes before the show starts. If we're gonna be you know, technically, you know, but a lot of people on Twitter, because I'm like, I'm like the really the only active social one on Twitter that kind of talked to our fans. Kurt jumps in every now and again. Nate almost never, you almost never just like so when the fans reach out to me. Of course, I'm the voice of the people. When the fans we out to me and say, hey, we're having the show,

we have on the show, I don't see them. I gotta make sure. Dang, you know, Shannon didn't get me at the game I had away last week, maybe a game. I spy away the show this week to make sure we were doing the show. Starts with the people the people were asking me about it, starts with the hat, and then starts Chris Breed starting flaunts the hat. Does he have the hat on? He does have the hat on? Yeah, all right, well we enough nonsense. Let's get into this schedule.

Let's get into the Let's start with the preseason, all right, do we need to not really? But I mean we're playing in the Hall of Fame game against the Steelers in Can't, Ohio. That's kind of a big deal. So that'll be fun that that's the only preseason game that has a date. That one's Thursday, August to fifth at

seven pm. Then we play at the Cardinals somewhere between August thirteenth and fifteenth in Houston, Somewhere between August twentieth and twenty second and then uh no, at home against Houston and at home against the Jaguars somewhere between August two seven, twenty ninth. Now now the game. But but before I kind of we kind we kind of we kind of dismissed preseason. But this is gonna be big for this football team, Shannon kurt Nate. Preseason is going

to be huge. It's gonna be the first time that we get a chance to see Dak Prescott after his injuries. Yes, and Dak is sit in front of the cameras all he wants and say, oh, I'm one hundred percent right now if I had to go play a game. There is a mental part of coming back from a catastrophic injury that no one's talking about when it ain't. It

ain't like, oh I just bought my knigue got busted up. No, when you're bone comes through your skin and you have that traumatic of an injury and you think about, but I may not ever play this game again, there's a mental part that has to play in your head when you step back onto the field in full competition, not practice, not OTAs, not any of that. When it's somebody across the line who isn't on your team who doesn't know you. The speed of the game will be at a at

his maximum speed. That has to play into the mind of Dak Prescott. So that'll be the first time we get a chance to see him and one of those preseason games. And then also this will be the first time we get a chance to see this football this football team under the coaching of Freaky Mike and Dan Quinn in a preseason game, which is gonna be huge. This is gonna be a very young defense. You're losing

Tyrone Crawford and we'll probably get more into that. You're losing shan Lee, so you're gonna have a lot of new faces and a lot of new guys and a lot of new positions trying to figure things out defensively. Let's not just bou for the guy. For the guy that said, do we really need to go through the preseason games? He sure didn't have a lot of lots that say, didn't he You know, I think he just likes to hear himself talk whatever. We want to move

on to him. I do, I do, I do. Daddy had a lot to say and you never showed up. So I'm gonna make up for it by talking a whole lot of the rest of my life. All Right, I'm trying to get the words, Oh Lord, have mercy. I'm trying to get Derek. No, No, we no budget. We spend it all on post malone, so we don't have the money for you. Jesse. All right, we moved on. Can we move on past preseason now? Jesse? Are you

good with preseason? Yes? Regular season? The game to kick off the twenty twenty any one NFL season, the Dallas Cowboys at the Tampa Bay Buck in thes Dak Prescott's first game back against Tom Brady. Could they have picked a bigger matchup and a bigger storyline? And you know, Dak, I mean I can't. I kind of think they split hairs here. I kind of think Tampa was gonna get the ratings anyway. Cowboys are gonna get the ratings anyway. I kind of am surprised they put two huge drawls

that get the biggest crowd, do they? I guess they think you put them both together. It's it's full stadiums now, let's get the problem out there. Let's go. But no matter what you think about it huge, huge game to start the season, and let you know right out of the gate what this Cowboy team is all about on the defensive side of the ball. The fact that they're gonna face such a tough challenge the first game in which they're kind of eased. No, hell no, bring it.

Let's see where we're at. Let's see where we're at. What you think, Tom Bay, Who's Tom Brady? Tom Brady water and they went back. Tom Brady has a bad habit of losing early in the year. Maybe we can catch him and keep that street going. Catch check his back, his history. They have a bad half wherever he's at. They're losing first few games, and maybe we can just catch them. Jazz, right, Jesse, you like it? You like this match up right out of the gate. Nope, Hey,

don't do that. Don't go there. Why Jesse I hated such a challenge because exactly part fifty of what you said, Shannon, I think the NFL bombed on this one. Because you got week one of the season. You're going to get if the Cowboys or Town or whoever, if they were playing the New York Yankees, you're gonna get the ratings. Football is king and when you start out the season. Everybody is poised and ready over ready to see it.

So you were going to get the ratings regardless. Secondly, is again there are we Dak Prescott will just be coming back. He might not get many preseason rest, might just playing that one game. Same thing with Tyring, same thing with ELC, same thing with this new whatever this defense is going to be. It's going to be new, the new terminology, new system, knew what everything. Then you got a bunch of rookie that you're gonna have to

play this year. I just don't want to walk into Give us to give us those old booty juice giants, right, give us there, We'll take the giants like you normally do. Give us. Give us the booty juice giants for the first game, for the first game of the year, and let us get Tampa once we get kind of the cakes worked out early on um and and Kurt said as well, Tampa's returning all twenty two starters from its

Super Bowl team, muffing sively and defensively. And people, no matter if they're on top on the bottom, when that star comes to town, they want to kick your butt. So I mean, great if we win, um, but I don't. I don't like this week one match up. I don't and and and in defense of my boy freaky Mike, if he comes out the gate and he loses the first game, it's gonna be an indictment on my board. They're gonna be ready to fire my guy after week one.

So I kind of wanted to give I wanted to buy my guys to bail and get my guysa bail week one and kind of ease into this thing. But it is what it is. But I don't like the week Jesse. I just did the math, and we're gonna give you some grace on this first game of the season, but we got seventeen of these to get through in the next That's why I'm thirty seven thirty forty seven minutes. So you're gonna have to be a little less worried because you're not getting paid by that by the word

yet and you're rung on the first game. But go ahead, on, Kurt, how do you feel about the first game? I'm kind of come on, Kurt, it's a Kurt. Let me talk for him. Yeah, I think you need a little time to kind of build up. You have doomed that room already. Wow, you got Kurt on the other side of the fence already. I like him. I like it because let's see where we're at the first game, and then let's work on things we need to work on. Because let's go out

there and win the game. We're gonna win this. Go win the game. If you don't win it, you know what. You got to see where we're at after the first game and figure out what we need to work on. Yeah, wouldn't you were to do that against Kurt the same team? You have the same team out there the first game. That don't different opponent though, who cares? Let's go super Bowl champs. Can you imagine you imagine this fan base and they beat Tampa the first game. They already gonna

have us winning the Super Bowl. This is not Oklahoma versus sisters that are blind. Come on, man, it's a pro team. It's a pro Let's go, Come on, go, n Let's go on to the next game. We spent too much time against Tom Brady in the in the Buccaneers Sunday, September the nineteenth. You go from one coast to the other coast. That's gonna be a little bit of a challenge as players. How big a factor of that at the Los Angeles Charters playing one coast and

the other coast. Now they all know they should be all they should they're all young. This is ain't y'all young, not all of them, just Tyrone as old as cats. That's about it. We ready to rock. Isn't that weird? You got rid of LP, you got rid of Sean Lee. There are no like old men on the team. Yes, man, we're ready to rock. What you think, Jess, I'm not gonna take up your time. We all we're going in this game one and old. What's up the sea early in the season. Time won't time won't be it won't

be an effective you're early. Everybody's kind of still rentively fresh. Um, I'm fine with it, Kurt Victory, right, that was my concern, and we're not doing that yet. Just a different show. That's a different show. I know. I'm just got to just be my concerned. Two straight road games opposite coast. But I mean, Jesse and Nate obviously no better than I do. How effects players, So if that's kind of problem, don't affect them, sir, to make I'm excited that's going

at the Chargers. Kurt and uh being made a good point. You got ten days because the first games of Thursday night games, so I'm sure you got the extra days in there. Then Monday Night football September, the twenty seven Philadelphia Eagles prime time come to AT and T Stadium early to be starting the division. I guess not usually start off with with with the with the Giants the first game of the juicye boob or whatever you call them?

What is the Eagles? Who did juice? So you got the Eagles, you got that's the beginning of a three games. You gotta make hay these like you can let that first game slide, No, sir, you can. Okay, you ain't gonna win them all. They're not going sixty to know, no matter what you think. I'm just saying, but you got Silly at home on Monday night. The following Sunday, October the third, you got the Carolina Panthers at home

a noon game. And in the following Sunday, October the tenth, you got the New York Giants Jesse at home at three twenty five three game homestand right there the booty Juice Giants. Juice you gotta win all three of those three when you think about that, Nate Man, I got them right now, four and one easy. That's a different show, okay, Okay,

I'm I'm just gonna no, no, turn it back over. Okay, But do you do you have looking at the schedule, okay, because then when you get through with that, you go you go to New England and who knows what they're gonna be this year, But that's on the road New England. It's in October, so you don't have to worry about

really bad weather, just kind of bad weather. So you got Tampa, New England the first one, two, three, four or five six games, So you really need to win that Chargers game, the Philly game, the Carolina game, in the New York game. Right. I thought that was a different show. We're not giving we're not giving predictions. I just said, you really need to win those games, so you gotta make Hey, like Kurt said before the bye week, right, Jesse,

Yeah you're there, Jesse, Yeah, I agree. I agree. Want y'all want me to not talk or y'all want me to talk in between? For me? Okay, ain't ain't no middle ground for me, you know, I'm gonna talk, and I'm gonna talk. Ain't gonna talk. It ain't ain't. That's kind of right, Like Jesse doesn't really have a regulator on him. It's it's all in or nothing. Okay, then you bye week. Halloween Sunday, October thirty. First you go up to Minnesota and play the Vikings Night game seven

twenty and then back home for two. So what are you guys doing on Halloween Night? Like? What are you like that? That's Halloween night? So right, It's like, so, if the boys are good, do you have Halloween? If the Cowboys are bad, do you do you not? Like, if you have the Cowboys are good heading into that Vikings game, do you make Halloween Saturday? No, you make

that like a metroplex. Na. You just dress up and go to the sports bars to watch the watch the Cowboy game and then go out after all the parties will be Halloween does not stop in Dallas. That's one of the biggest You understand, Shannon, you have kids now, like you have a kid now, so like trick or treating will be a thing for you, So it it ain't no more just dress up to go to the bar like you have to now like preen around in

the neighborhood. Damn, I didn't factor that in. Whenever that kid that shuts like someone's someone's coming to your door. Now you know what I'm saying. Oh man, kids still a little too young. Halloween, you got another year, okay, all right? Plus the bars will be the night before it's true, true, all right. And then after you're at Minnesota November the seventh Sunday, Denver Broncos at home noon game and a Lanta Falcons the week after that at noon.

It's two more you better win. But think about did you get to see quarterback can make a difference for sure? What'd you say, Nate, Lisa? Cowboys that played the two corners that they missed out on one in Carolina, that's true versus that's a great point. Yeah, Denver in Atlanta, that's those two teams. You don't know what they're gonna be like because Denver could have and Aaron Rodgers and

Atlanta they could bounce back. They got some firepower on that, yes, added that tight end, they got some firepower and off they got your tight end too, yeah, Jesse. And then the week after drift picks that we want it? Yeah, right, all the once we talked about on the show the following week, Big Game, Big Game, traveling up to the Kansas City Chiefs three twenty five in the afternoon on

November the twenty one. Then they're back at home Thursday, November twenty fifth, Thanksgiving Day, game again before before we move on? Okay, can I can I declare and I need I need a commitment from Kurt? I know, I know, I know Big Nate's down to do it. Can can we take the show in the road to Kansas City? Can we go to Kansas City like as a as a squad and travel up for Sunday? That's Kurt stomping ground, glad.

Kurt's like Derek o'kays. Let's go, let's go, Nate, what's up, Nate Man, I'm down with it, bro, I'm in you know me, I'm all in all beam you in fun Town RV. Let's go. Hey, we can start on Thursday, get up there on Sunday. Let's go. Let's make that happen. Jesse, that's a great idea, the best in the world. Yeah. How long does that drive, Kurt? It's eight hours. That's not bad. That'd be great in an R and B just about it's easy. That's easy for Big Nat to get there in four and tell you what, No, I

want to drive speed man. I'm telling man what I'm looking at that Kansas City game. Man, what what the game will be like? Ninety five and ninety nine or some fis kind of shake yea. The weather is gonna be a factor in that one late November. What's the brother like up there, Kurt? You never know. It's usually it's fine, but you never know if there it gets you get something merely sometimes yeah, okay. Then you back home for Thanksgiving lost Vegas Raiders Wow, three thirty pm.

And then you go on the road for a three game stretch which this this ain't gonna be a walk in the park Thursday night game. Here's our season right here. You think this is where it comes down to, this this stretch, this is where this this is this is the makeup break of our season. And these next three games are getting ready to talk about. And those next three games are Thursday, December the second at New Orleans

night game seven, twenty pm. And you're talking about going to be a madhouse with a full stadium back for the first time in New Orleans. That's gonna be nuts. Then you got Sunday, December the twelve at the Washington Football Team noon game, and the following week at the

New York Giants noon game. Why do you think that's Why do you think that comes down to the season, Jess, Because it always does like that, that that stretch that thanks given that you know those ten ten days and you got three games and that whole stretch, it's it's at that point in time of the season. Remember we added another game into the season that stretch right there, and they're all road games. You talked about earlier in the year where road doesn't affect you go from one

coach to the next. But when you gotta get on that plane three times in a row in a short time frame at the tail end of the season, when you're kind of beat up and you're a little bit banged up, that's when that travel begins to affect you. You're not your normal routine is kind of broken up a little bit, and that makes your break your season.

You don't have as much time to recover, to prepare, and you know, I don't know who's going to be the quarterback from New Orleans, but Sean Payton is still there, so you're gonna put together game plan and then the Washington football team is going to be a good football team. The ship fellas, they're going to be a good football

defense for sure. And then and then you have the for sure, and then you have the Giants like the division rivals that those two games can swing the tide of you know, and then it comes, you know, where the Cowboys win the division and it'll be having to come down to week eighteen again to figure out if we're going to be division winners again or not, because this is the point where you spend the first half of your season three hundred cent just getting these young

guys ready on defense, getting everybody lined up. Now they should at this point understand what coach Quinn won't and his assistance. So now the knowledge along with being able to play fast, to start kicking in right here. And this is where they'll needed going on the road three times in a row, they would need their defense to play well. It's also when they start hitting the rookie

though too, hit the rookie wall. After I was getting ready to say that games Kie play twelve games, you're gonna add four preseason games and then by time you get there we're talking about now you've been in that fourteen fifteen game ragn where you add preseason. Those young guys will play in preseason. That's when they hit that rookie wall. Those bodies starts. For the last couple of years, this was when the season was ending, and now I'm in the league. This is when the season is really

But they'll be right. This is where you learn. You got to play those young guys. You know, everything's predicated on it. They can play. They're gonna play the guys they drafted and the guys they brought in a free agent. Give them all the chances and all opportunities, which that's all they have is who they drafted and the friend they don't. We don't have nobody left from the old school that we can say, Okay, this guy gonna take up valuable space. It's all about these guys. Throw them

in right away at the beginning of the year. Yes, sir, Sam, Yeah, no, no, no, ramp up what no, sir, They have to play. You can't rap if you ramp up. If you ramp up and try to play games right here, you're losing valuable time time. So when we want these three games to count,

we want these three road games account. We don't want to be like, okay, if they win this game, and no, we wanted to be in a point where they're gonna either win the division and have a first round by are they playing for that top spot for you know, to be in the wild card that first week. You don't want nothing else. You want to be breathing easy when you get to Washington Arizona. You want to be

breathing easy, not not fighting for your life. Well, like a four games, four road games in five I mean, that's a huge stretch you gotta play though, is that today's NFL, today's players, with the training and all that, does the road games make as big a difference as they used to. They still do. They still do because like you said, they are young. And what we gotta hope is that we drafted, we got some guys and through for that's mentally tough, you know, that's mentally tough.

That these coaches are gonna put enough into them, you know, early in the season, through these preseason games, put enough in them so they can so they what you want to do when you get to these games they didn't season. This is how it's always felt. Once I locked my game, my mind into the season is you want to have enough at the end of the year so you can ride it out. That you playing fast, you playing on instincts.

You know you're looking at film getting your basic game playing out, but you you know who you are offensively, you know who you are defensively. You know it's just instincts. He called a play. You look at the front and you know what's happening, and you play hard because that's who you are. You don't want to be like, okay, wow, he called this play. But I got Jerome Brown. He

called this playing. I got Dama con sue what I do. No, you you just play now because it's about you when the cop the thing that that this is what I always felt when you get when you get good, it's like Tampa Bay know who they are and when they line up, there ain't so much looking at you as how you can beat them, as more how they beat you. Their game plan is better. Their players are better. Not so much because they're physically better, but they've been better mentally.

We've been here before and we've done that. The new thing about these guys. They haven't been there before, but you gotta make up with that, with that, with being having great athletes that know what they're doing and playing fast. This three game road stretch here towards the end of the year with two division games makes those three home games September October early October with two division games that much more important because you gotta win those three because

you don't want to. You don't want to go into this stretch having to win to stay in the division hunt. So let's take a quick break. We got three more games to cover, then we'll get overall overall, I guess, analysis of what we think the schedule, and another big day today. Not only we get to talk about the schedule, the rookies are in the building for the first time today with Rookie Minicamps starting tomorrow and over the weekend,

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football team the day after Christmas. That's a night game December the twenty sixth. Then you have you follow up the week after you welcome the Arizona Cardinals to town, and then you end the season surprise surprise on the road against Philadelphia, which is a noon game, which I would imagine if that comes down to anything hurting it, it will flex and I'm gonna go out on the limb again and say I think something's something will be on the line the last game of the season as usual,

and it usually Philadelphia is involved in that game. So, Kurt, overall thoughts, what do you like the fact that they're playing Washington so late in the season and then so close together, or would you rather they kind of be split up a little. I'm with Jess. Youveen to play one of the best defenses in the league. I like where they're at because it's gonna be physical. I don't like the closeness of these two games. Is he gonna

be physical? And but I like where it's at because that team is gonna be bringing it defensively if they and if they do it, we know coach Very're gonna do They're gonna the ball, and they're gonna be physical because they're not gonna they're gonna. I don't think they have a quarterback at this time that can do things. But it's gonna be a physical game. And I like

that it's late, man. I like that it's late. And I hope Zeke and whoever with him is ready to run the ball to try to keep the pressure off of Dack. It'd be two tough home games there at the end, potentially. Yeah, what do you think about it, Jesse? That is that gonna beat you up going into the hopefully going into the playoffs, playing that defense almost damn near back to back the last you know, five games of the season. Yep, that's gonna be. That's gonna be tough.

It's gonna be tough, Like playing that team is going to be tough. And again late in the year, guys are banged up, Guys are hurt, guys are injured, and when you playing physical football team coming down to stretch, now, those two Washington games, you may some you may see it, you may lose it. You may lose a guy or two heading into the playoffs or heading into whatever whatever that post season opportunity may be. Because of having a

place that's a physical, physical, defense in Washington. And see that's why it cannot I repeat, it cannot come down to if it comes down to Philadelphia, you would pray and hope that it's for one of those top three spots in the NFC. Just for position, Yeah, just for a position. But if I was you're talking about the wild card game coming off of Washington two weeks almost two weeks in a row. You know, Philadelphia get it up for the star. They get it up for one game.

They can be oh and fifteen. Yeah, hey, we go got the Cowboys to close out of the season to be the best week and be wow. What do you think about the overall schedule, Kirk, Well, you know, there's been a lot of talk about you know, this is like the second easiest schedule based on last year's results, which I don't know how much you can really put into that. So I think from a p a standpoint standpoint,

excuse me, it's doable. But the I guess logistics of it all worries me because you've got you know, two games on the road, you got that stretch of four road games in five days. At the end, you've got tough matchup against Washington. I mean that to me, makes it maybe more tougher than the actual opponents. That makes sense, you know, Yeah the spacing and yeah, yeah it's laid out makes it tougher in my eyes than than maybe the actual opponents do. Well you think about it, Nate.

You know, I don't go by what these uh so called experts say because this is a tough schedule. This is the NFL, my friend, So I don't care what these people say. This thing is gonna be hard, and it's it's how the Cowboys mature with these young guys on defense, will they play them, whether they be smart enough to understand that the defense that coach Quinn is putting in place where they have enough guys in the rotation. Because if our offense get rolled it, we gotta offense.

We gotta offense. So all we gotta den is make sure special teams are consistent and that our defensive guys just don't just don't crush us as a team, and we should be okay, we think, Jesse. I agree with they. I agree with Kurt. This this schedule is no cakewalk. Like you know, you can say, oh, the Broncos, but the Broncos at Aaron Rodgers that that comes up as a significantly different football team. Um, and Nate's right, you gotta play those young guys early because you're gonna need

them to perform down the stretch. This offense, I think will be fine. You have enough playmakers, enough experience, all your true veteran leadership is on the offensive side of the ball, So it'll be fine. And you know, go punch for punch, blow for blow with anybody on this schedule. It's going to come down to what can dan Quinn do with that young defense. How can he get them to roundabout and shape and inform to to compete, not not just be out there, but to truly compete and

give a significant output weekend and week out. Um, because you're going up against some dogs. This is a dog schedule right here, and you're gonna you're gonna know you would you don't know. You wouldn't have every week, Kurt. If you could pick any game on the schedule to go to as a fan, yeah, one road game, one home game. Which ones would you pick? Well? Uh, wow, you're going to Kansas City. Yeah, that'd be fun. That's a great stadium to see a game I've never seen.

I've never been in the Saint set. I think that'd be a fun atmosphere to go to. And then obviously, Tamma, that's gonna be a huge game on Thursday night, So I think you gotta if you're I said one, okay, one home in one way of the Saints game, I'm going to Sun. What about home home game? I think the game against Washington on the twenty sixth. All right, Nate, you get one home game and one road game as a fan, which one's you going to? Oh? Both of

mine was on the road. I'm sorry, Yes, sir, I'm taking twna bay, Tom Brady a beast, so I'm going to out with it. Uh at the crib. We only join you, man, I'm want to see this Washington game. That's gonna be a beat him up game. Though, Jesse get one road one home game, which one man, New Orleans sounds so funn Have you've never been in that stadium, especially for a night game that like wanted to be in that stadium too, to be a night game. They be juiced up by tom game time. Um, but I

want to see I want to see Pat Mahomes. I want to see that second That was my second game man, but he took it away from this Shannon. So I would say my way would be Kansas City and my home. Ah, it's Aaron Rodgers on the Broncos. Not now all right. They didn't do the schedule with him being no, no, you want to see it Land. I want to I want to see Kyle Pitts. I want to see Cayl Pitts. Okay, all right, I am probably going. I gotta go with

New Orleans just because the whole experience. There's a casino there, there's you can walk up nine game, you can sleep late, like just that whole I really I've been to Kansas City once when I first started doing social media, and that like that's that's a place that you want to go tailgate. That would be an amazing thing. But just New Orleans. But I love Tampa. Tampa is one of my favorite cities in the country. New England. I love

that stadium. You can't go everywhere you go. I want to see the Chargers new stadium, but I would go. I would pick New Orleans just because that's gonna be the part that's gonna be the most fun. And then home, I I think I want to see I think I want to see Washington at the end of the year, man, I think I want to see them. I want to see that game. So so, nobody picked your juice team, Juicy Bot, Juice want Juice. You get to pick. You've been to all of the most most of the stadiums,

if not all of them. You get one road game as a fan and one home game. Which ones are you picking? I'm gonna pick um that new soap cow or whatever it is that so five Chargers, Yeah, so five, I'm gonna go there, Okay. And then the home game Philly Philly. Yeah, because that's always a good game. It's a good game. Opener Phi opener. Man if phill If Philly is a good game, we in trouble. A good game opener one hundred thousand back. I meant Jayla hurts

that quarterback. We're in trouble. Man. If Philly is a good game, we're in trouble. And I know us, I know us. We No, sir, I ain't trying even giving them, no hope. Please please, Cowboys, don't make them a good game. Please. No, we can't do be doing that again where they Shannon, don't bring that on us this year. Man, yeah, you cause that every years I know them. They don't talk

about people within our confidence in divisions and stuff. Phillius. Sorry, I'm not saying that it's gonna come down to one of them getting in. They ain't got one great player and he on defense. I think it's gonna be the I think it's gonna be the Cowboys and the Washington football team. But I think it's gonna be close enough that that Philly game. You know what, this may be the year that Philly doesn't play a factor and we one team just cruises in. This may be that year.

And you know what. The wild card here is the Giants. The Giants have the potential to be pretty good or pretty bad from not from what I guess is he gave him a nickname. He gave him something booty, a bootist Jesse Jesse, Yeah, boot juice. Yeah, they ain't no good from what Jess? Can I change my pick? Yeah? Yes, I want to do the Giants. You want to know why? Why It's the year anniversary of DAK and its same week in same team, same stadium. That's the story. That's

why they did the story. Five. I was just looking at Washington schedule, their last five games are all against NFC East. Oh wow, that's gonna be physical for its watch Philly Dallas Philly Giants. That is crazy. That's gonna be fun to watch it be. I like how they've sot these schedules up. I really do, man. They did a master for jib then it failed. All right, fellas, let's take our last break when we come back. Rookies are in the building an amen corner with Kurt Daniels

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while they last. They won't last long. They're gonna show out before too much longer, So go get you something. Buddy Geo listeners all the time. He's like, we're talking about easy schedules. You think other teams looking at the Cowboys talking about easy schedules. Yeah. I'll tell you what though, but we were coming to look caveat. You're gonna have to scull. You're gonna have to scull, right, It's like

it's like the Brooklyn Nets. I got that right. If they all healthy you can beat them, but you're gonna have to score, am I correct? Jess correct, Just gotta just gotta score forty two. And this year we got somebody that can help us control the clock. And dat he's vetteran enough and paid enough so that you get control the cli. I'm so glad we don't have to talk about that anymore. Yeah, that's a great point. So tired of talking about that. All right, rookies are in

the building. They come in today I think around one o'clock for their physicals and their head shots and their equipment fitting and all that good stuff, and then they actually get to go do some work tomorrow on the field. So quick walk clue, what are they doing Jesse, Nate? What are they doing over this weekend? First rookie mini camps, the first time being with the team. Well, I'll tell you what if the position coach is doing, is they like, wow,

look how great his body look? Oh we got a long, tall, intelligent guy here. They kind of just ban they're looking at the bodies and noticeable. Look at him walking into the showers. Wow he looks good. A little short, dumpy guys, fat guys like Nate noon walking around you know that doughnuts done, Terry. Okay, I took a left, but listen, Nate knew it was a six time Pro Bowl, three toime football champions. So if they look like Nate, can

they produce like yeah? Wow? I'm just hey, y'all have fun. Man, I just had a bad When I think about it last year, it just throws me up. I'm sorry. What are they doing out there on the field tomorrow, Jesse? We got what the coaches are doing? Thanks for that. Inside what are the players? It's it's it's an introduction, right, players are getting out there. They're gonna see early on. Hey kind of where coach is gonna play me? You know, what's something that I'm about to be learning. This is

a this is an install pier. You can take your time a little bit. Now it has changed because I remember when rookie minicamp was when I first came into the league, and it almost made you quit because it was really ye oh my god. It was like forty guys, maybe fifty guys, and it was two of days. It

was full pads, and you did everything. You did every rep on kick off, you did every rep on off fit, you did every rep on special teams to every reps on defense, and so it was like there was a cruel group of guys who were doing everything and it was like, you know, coaches wanted to see, all right, which one of y'all was actually conditioning, who was really working at home or who was just talking about working

at home. You're you know, you're gonna find out who's mentally tough early on, who's ready to give it up right now, who's ready to call it quits right now? When when we when we got forty guys here, So coaches kind of gage a little bit. But it's changed

over time a lot of time. If it now was just the installation getting to know guys, guys getting to know you, um kind of being your foundation because you have to break them up all the old habits that they had at whatever university that they came from, because Dan quinn is gonna run things a certain way. Mike McCarthy slash Kelly Boy's gonna run things a certain way. So it's like breaking some of the old habits, installing, getting them, getting them in the building, running around and

just seeing what you got. It's kind of almost like you know, you purchase something online. It gets it gets to Amazon and you finally get a chance to open up the box and see what you got. And it's gonna be a lot of nowadays, walk through installation formations, verbiage, film talk, film study, just getting guys acclimated from what they used to be doing to what they will be expected to do now as pros and getting them ready for when the veterans come back and it's really go time.

And you know what's it's amazing. Now you're gonna find out who the smart guys are, Guys that can learn from one practice to another. Can you maintain what you've already learned, can you take it to the next practice and transition into that field even though they're not going one hundred miles an hour? Coaches are looking at that more so now than ever before. You used to kind of can walk or guy through. This thing has gotten so u upscale, so they they're they're looking at them. Okay,

they guy, he's pretty smart. I mean he's retaining what we're saying here. And then as this thing builds into other camps and other situations, you'll see, man, because what I gathered and I know I'm going on the long winhad what I gather is coach McCarthy values the smart guy. It's a place on this team for the smart guy. So we'll see man. Because that that has been a big issue these last few years, not having the right guys that can adjust to the different schemes that they

run to run around here. What's listen to you guys talk? It sounds like this is more about finding out what they do mentally now, sir, physically, like they finding their true talent might not be the goal this weekend. Yeah, you this game has played so much on the outside now everybody wants to throw different schemes. If you got guys that have good talent, but they can they can give you multiple looks. Like Jess say, you're always trying

to make that receive a reroute. You're always trying to make that quarterback go away from his main goal and have to come back. And that's that's called scheming, and that's called putting people in positions. So it looked like one thing and it's another. So it is about the talent, the telligence of a player, and did you get the right guy to fit your scheme to be able to do that, or did you just get another dud. I mean, I'm for real for the last few years, Jesse, and

correct me if I'm wrong. Even with the old regime, we're gonna play limited, limited defenses, and we're gonna play fast. Well, when you play leaving limited defenses, everybody knows what you're running, so they can always be one step ahead of you because or we're gonna get this looking, we're gonna give them this, or we're gonna run this out for this and it's gonna be the same looking play. But we're gonna do this this time. You don't want to look

the same every time. I mean, I don't get me wrong. Some quarterbacks are smart. The guy we're playing don't opening the season. He's smart, okay, but you're not playing that guy every week. Well, the veterans have an air interaction with them, like when they go to meetings and stuff with guy's community. This is where I talked about you guys earlier. They they're gonna lose a little bit because normally you and I don't know if they can do this. You tell me, Shannon, can they Are they bringing in

the first year guys a second year guys. Are they doing that? Jesse? It depends on how many games they played. How many games you play, like the Nucci isn't eligible because he played a certain amount of snaps or whatever you got. And this is where I am so upset with our players union. You you you're not thinking about

guys that under four years and under. They should be allowed to come into these camps and to be leaders for these young guys and help them along, even though that may not be the pitch on defense, but that could be the pitch on offense. You know, if I'm a fourth year guy less, I want to be here. I want to be in these camps. I want the coaches to see me because I want to let them know that I'm ready to go. Terrently come by, But you can't, like you can't participate, that you can't put

you put before when I played. If you're you, you gay man, we need you, We don't know you. Come on. I know you've been here three years, but I don't know you. Come on, let's go. You gotta be out here with these rookies. Now they have changed it all up, and these veteran guys who think they're veterans get ready to lose your job. So it's like, couldn't Anthony Brown talk to you know, Joseph the second round pick. Yeah, yeah, he can walk by and talk to him, but he

just can't be out there on the field. Yeah, that's what I'm asking you, guys, because back, like I said when we played Spread, if you was injured the year before, like da if being injured, you know, you wouldn't bring dak out there. But I'm just saying the Nutri was injured. Hey man, come on out here, man and get some of this. Come on, han't get some of this, and it can show that if you have a free agent quarterback, rookie otherwise. Okay, this is how we do this. It's

just one hand washes the other. But the Players Union ain't doing this right. You're cutting a lot of guys throat, mainly guys like me who were free agents. You know that's dumb. All right, Well, one thing that's not dumb, Amen Corner. We got five minute, Daniels, you got five whole minutes to take over the last part of the show. I'm turning this over to you. I want to want to know the inside scoop, the behind the scenes of this post Malone. What you want to know about hear

it all come together. What happened? Were you there when they're filming to do the interaction? I mean, so I'll kind of give you the backstory of how it started. Every year that the NFL has done an amazing job at turning the league into a three hundred and sixty five day a year product. Look at the draft, what they've done with the draft. You go look at old footage of the draft ten ten years ago, really twenty years ago. It's laughable. Ten years ago that was nothing

like it is. There's there's you know, shows built around the draft and build up. Well they've done that with the schedule release now and it's become this thing on social media with teams probably over the last four or five years where it's become probably her people call it the super Bowl of NFL social media, where every team tries to outdo the other and everybody, every team tries to have the best social media video for schedule release. And I it's tough, man, because it puts a lot

of pressure on all the social teams. It's you have to start planning months and months in advance for this schedule release. And I used to hate it, but I get it because the more hype you can create around these videos, the more you know, buzz you can create it. It creates buzz around the schedule release, which in turn creates buzz around ticket sales, especially a year like this where fans are going to be allowed back and I guess all stadiums or most stadiums. I guess they're figuring

that out as they go that it. This is just a piece of the puzzle that creates buzz around the actual schedule and into you know, ticket dollars. So I get it now, and I understand it, and I don't hate it as much, but it still puts a lot of pressure. So we started Rainstorm in months and months ago about hey, what what can we do? How many ideas?

Did a lot? We started, Actually we started with just the social team, and one of our ideas that was really low kind of on our list because we didn't think we could make it happen, was what if we got post Malone, because he's a huge fan, to get the schedule tattooed on his body, because he's so busy that he you know, he's got crazy tattoos, like he tattoos the schedule on his body. So he can remember what when to go watch the games when he's on

the road. So it started there, and it started kind of with our social team, and then we brought some other other creative people in Corey Miller's team that does all the game day presentation at the stadium, brought their team in and we kind of started having some brainstorm ideas and we went through the list. One of the ideas we had was just to pull the curtain back

a little bit was you know this hot Ones. Yes, they do on YouTube where they eat the hot wings and they talk to the players, and we were trying to get that guy in touch with that guy to do a version of that, and that kind of fell through, and then they were probably there were probably six or seven solid concepts, and we came away from those first couple of meetings like, hey, let's go work on these other two or three that are really solid, but the

post Malone one's the winner if we could pull it off, And we kind of wrote it off as there's no way we can get one. We can't get him too, you know, we tried to do something stuff with him in the past and just really couldn't get in touch with him. Two if we pull that off his schedule and Jerry's schedule, there's no way we can get him together at the same time. So we His dad used to work for us, Rich Post used to be a director at the stadium and ran our food and beverage

under George Wisai for you. Used to bring me delicious food for the pregame show. Oh my god, used to Rich is the best. He is so awesome. So I got I reached out to Rich, said, hey, we have this idea. You know, and another guy, um Alexander Poppas that's actually friends with Posts and I know him. He works with a lot of influencers. Started with him, said hey, do you think he'll be interested? And he reached out directly said yeah, man, he's interested. Let's try to figure

it out. So then got Rich involved, and then the wheels kind of started turning because rich Is now works for Posts. He quit the stadium a few years ago to go work for his son to help him. I don't not even sure what he does. I think he manages his money. So the wheel started turning a little bit. We got a little traction and next thing you know, man, it started gaining a lot of traction, and then it started looking like it might happen, and then we started seeing, hey,

was Jerry even interested in this? And then you know, we we we kind of pitched the idea to Charlotte and Charlotte kind of you know Meredith that works with us, and Charlotte. They kind of got the idea in front of him, and I think the grandkids were like, this guy's really cool, grandpa, and like you should do this. And then he, you know, he agreed to it. And then once he agreed to it, it was like all right,

post he's agreed to it. Then we had to start figuring out dates, and you know, their schedules are so crazy. That was my biggest worries. We weren't going to be able to link them up on this on the right day. And things just fell in place, and literally probably didn't get confirmation that he was coming for sure until like a week before it happened. So we were all nervous because it was like this, We've got all our eggs

in this basket. But man, he we picked him up from the airport and he was he That's one thing you always worry about when you work with talent is like you're gonna be with this person all day. What are they gonna be like? And what are the people around them gonna be like? Because you have to work with them and deal with them. The coolest human being I have ever met, just down to earth, like the greatest guy, like talked to every knew everybody that was

working on the project, knew him by name. By the end of the day, was just super laid back, wasn't looking at his watch. We were supposed to have him for about an hour, hour and a half. We wound up having him for damn there five and a half hours. But that was due partly because he was taking a smoke break every fifteen minutes and we were having to go outside. So but I mean, it was the whole day was just you know, Jerry had a great time shooting it. He was down to their interaction like awesome.

Let me tell you so man, so great. Jarry has never turned down that type of business. He's never started with Dion them back in the day. Mister Jones, My hats off she because he's never passed up opportunity like that. He gets it, man, he understands like, hey, this is going to go crazy and I'll be a part of it and turned to Dallas Cowboys will be a part of it, and it's going to that's why we'll beat That's why that stole. That's why we'll beat somebody on

That's why the ninth right, Yeah, that's why we will. Whoever, whoever Jerry Jewels interacted with ain't got nothing to do with who we're gonna beat on the field. We just saying I'm just getting I'm just getting ready. Just visualize. Oh yeah, Dak and Zeke so that the you know, his song Wow was part of the reason why we kind of went down this road was because you know, he mentions Dak Prescott and the song while we're like, well,

we got to get Dak in it. So Um, I actually reached out um Jeremiah that used to work for us forty Second Witness for some of you that follow him on Instagram, one of our team photographers is really tight with Dak and is kind of, you know, does a lot of personal stuff for Dak. So I said, hey, we have this idea floated by Dak, see if he's interested, and he said, yeah, he's interested. He doesn't want to be the main focus of the video. But he's definitely

down to beat make a cameo. And I said, okay, let me get the details and we'll get it figured out. So then once I figured that out, I went to our PR department and said, hey, here's what we need, here's when we need it. And Joe Trehannon, our PR department, um Dak was out here working out or something or was in the locker room, and he went and said, hey, here's the kind of the concept, here's the day in time. And Zeke happened to be standing and there's equals like, well,

I want to do it too, that's right. So we were like, hey, take your running back, more of the barrier, let's go. So they both wound up having a little cameo in it. Fun. Yeah, great video, ground up being really good. If you hadn't seen it, go see it. Lets A lot of great people worked on this thing. Uh we're Drew Ferguson, Connor, Ben Fallon, you know, Thomas Shannon Gross, Clay, Shannon Grows, Drew the Shannon Grows together. I would say, I kind of I got the right

people in the right room to make it. Shannon Grows. So I figured out all the logistics and then if I didn't have any talent to do it, everybody else had the talent and growth to do it. I just kind of I heard of the kittens in the right direction, and it just wound up turn into a Stannon Gross a great thing. Our social hats out to our social team. They were involved in all the brainstorming in the in the beginning. So I mean a lot of people pulled

together to make it half Channon Gross. If you haven't seen it, go see it's on Dallas cowboy dot com, all of our social channels. It's it was a fun project to work on. So Shannon Gross, he just laughs. I guess he's I guess he's done with the show. So thanks Jesse, see you later. Nate, thank you, thank you, thank you, thanks for letting us go. It's over today. We appreciate it. Thank you. Guy who left on the porch. A lot to get too. So we will be back

next week Thursday, same time, same place. I'm gonna make shout on. Take Chris Beams on the thing here. I took something from him last week. I don't take his thing. Yeah he needs his thing. I don't know he might not need anymore. He's got two kids. He may be done with that thing. Yeah, yeah, he may be. Man, Tommy John, all right, we will be back next week Hanging with the Boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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